Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft

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The Saints own the 27th overall pick in this year’s NFL draft, which means they won’t be taking one of the top quarterbacks, which frees coach Sean Payton to speak honestly about those prospects. And Payton isn’t overly impressed.

Payton told Peter King of SI.com that he doesn’t view any of these quarterbacks as the same kind of top-notch prospects that he thought Andrew Luck was heading into the 2012 draft, and Carson Wentz was heading into the 2016 draft.

“I don’t see Luck in this draft, and I don’t see Carson Wentz, who I liked a lot coming into the draft,” Payton said. “I’d feel a little bit uneasy if I were at the top of this draft and I decided I had to have a quarterback. The pressure to get a quarterback is so great in this league, I get that. But we can’t create ’em. I wouldn’t be surprised if only one of these guys is left standing in four or five years, and if so, I’d guess it would be Sam Darnold.”

This does look like a strong draft for quarterbacks, but that does not mean a future superstar is in this draft. Count Payton as someone who is skeptical that any team will find that superstar quarterback this year.

33 responses to “Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft

  1. With maybe exception of last year, I’m not sure I’d take my drafting
    and or FA signings advice from Sean Payton.

  2. Its the same thing every year. Teams in need of a QB convince themselves theses prospects are better then they really are and think Superbowl winning MVP in his prime isn’t worth a #1. Its also why head coaches and GM’s on those bottom feeding teams get replaced every couple of years.

  3. Translation:
    I hope you listen to me so the QB I do like falls so I cann trade up and get him.

  4. I have to agree…NONE of them look NFL ready. They each have their strenghs but non have franchise QB written all over them. If I’m the Browns you take the best RB at #1…and the best DE or CB at # 4.

  5. Engage in revisionism much, Coach? Well, at least you’re on record this time. It’s easy to say you were all over Wentz, after the fact. What about Dak? Any post-hoc self-congratulatory pats on the back?

    Or is this just a ham-fisted attempt to get a QB to slide? As far as college records go, Baker Mayfield was much better than Darnold, Luck, or Wentz (or Brees for that matter).

  6. Another voice who keeps forcing Cleveland to take Darnold.

    If Darnold fails, Cleveland can point to Payton and the obvious majority and saw “We ALL got it wrong”. If they got outside of the box and that person fails, then Cleveland is going to be defending themselves alone.

    If he succeeds then good for Cleveland. I hope this draft produces 7 starters.

  7. I agree with Payton, 100%. This is perhaps the most hyped class in a while but there are no “must haves” for me in it. Plenty of projects, but no sure fire hits, as though there are many of those anyway.

    And no, I don’t think he is trying to get someone to slide, because they won’t slide, I don’t care who makes the statement. A QB-needy team is going to take their QB – and likely reach – no matter the commenter. This is just his opinion.

  8. Is Payton pulling a jedi mind trick? Anyway, I know Luck has had injury but that’s all part of it and what has he achieved? Arguably even both Manning brothers (especially Eli, an expected 1st pick until he refused to go to Chargers) under-achieved for much of their careers, as did Bledsoe, Couch, Vick, Carr, Palmer, Smith, Jamarcus Russell, and Elway only got 2 belated SBs thanks to not one but two massive $29M cap frauds (at times when the caps were $57M). But look at:
    1) Brees taken in 2nd rd, behind Vick.
    2) Montana, taken at the end of the 3rd rd behind QBs Thompson, Simms and Fuller.
    3) Brady taken as a comp pick AFTER the 6th rd, behind almost everyone.
    4) and Kurt Warner, of course, undrafted.

  9. Whether he’s posturing or not, Jet fans can’t be happy reading this. It reminds them, once again, of what they already knew: “We’re doomed!”

  10. With maybe exception of last year, I’m not sure I’d take my drafting
    and or FA signings advice from Sean Payton.
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    Well, your memory is quite short as Brees, Vilma, Greer, Fujita were all FA signings which helped them win a Super bowl.

  11. streetyson says:
    April 16, 2018 at 7:57 am
    Is Payton pulling a jedi mind trick? Anyway, I know Luck has had injury but that’s all part of it and what has he achieved? Arguably even both Manning brothers (especially Eli, an expected 1st pick until he refused to go to Chargers) under-achieved for much of their careers, as did Bledsoe, Couch, Vick, Carr, Palmer, Smith, Jamarcus Russell, and Elway only got 2 belated SBs thanks to not one but two massive $29M cap frauds (at times when the caps were $57M). But look at:
    1) Brees taken in 2nd rd, behind Vick.
    2) Montana, taken at the end of the 3rd rd behind QBs Thompson, Simms and Fuller.
    3) Brady taken as a comp pick AFTER the 6th rd, behind almost everyone.
    4) and Kurt Warner, of course, undrafted.

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    Why don’t you mention the late round QBs that fail? If you go through the starters in the NFL you will find that that almost all of them are 1st rounders. There are only about 5 guys who weren’t early picks that are established starters. Now that drafting QBs doesn’t kill your cap they are taken early more than ever. I wouldn’t make it a plan to find the next Brady late in the draft, you will be looking for a long time.

  12. “I don’t see Luck in this draft, and I don’t see Carson Wentz, who I liked a lot coming into the draft,” Payton said.

    “But if any of them turn out to be a superstar like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, and I can get them in a trade for my team, I’ll take back those words in a second.”

  13. flexx91 says:
    April 16, 2018 at 8:08 am
    Well, your memory is quite short as Brees, Vilma, Greer, Fujita were all FA signings which helped them win a Super bowl.
    ________________________________________________________________________________________
    All those picks are 10+ years ago, what have you done for me lately.

  14. What QB exactly has Payton selected over the years? Brees was groomed by Cam Cameron in SD, and he lucked up getting him because the Dolphin training staff screwed up. So exactly what is his authority on the matter. Just asking.

  15. All you need to know about NFL QB drafting in a nutshell: The advanced stats say Mayfield is the best of the bunch plus he had the best college career yet he’s still probably going to be the 3rd QB taken while the guy with the most question marks in Allen is probably going to be first.

  16. He didn’t see Russell Wilson coming either even though he had a smaller Drew Brees in front of him everyday to compare. Russell took his team to the playoffs his first year and the Superbowl in his second and third years.

    Bottom line, he has no idea who will be good because Luck and RGIII were supposed to dominate the league for years, everyone loved both, and neither worked out.

    Tannehill has worked out better than both those guys as well from that class. At least he is still out there.

    Whether or not a QB is successful has so many factors to it that I don’t think you can predict in any way successfully how things will work out.

  17. Luck has only proven to be a system QB who has only shown consistent success when Bruce Arians was around and has resulted in more offensive coordinators being on the unemployment line than on the “future head coach” line.

    Wentz so far is a one season wonder who’s previous quarterback coach describes him to be a new RG3 who’ll stay on IR in between the 5 good games he’ll have because he’s uncoachable and will get himself injured.

    So I take it when he says “good” he means overhyped to a level they can’t possibly live up to.

  18. BuckyBadger says:
    April 16, 2018 at 8:32 am

    If you go through the starters in the NFL you will find that that almost all of them are 1st rounders. There are only about 5 guys who weren’t early picks that are established starters. Now that drafting QBs doesn’t kill your cap they are taken early more than ever. I wouldn’t make it a plan to find the next Brady late in the draft, you will be looking for a long time.
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    Conventional wisdom says you have to take a QB in the first round, but there actually are quite a few good quarterbacks that were taken outside the first round:

    Nick Foles (until Wentz is back, but he was Super Bowl MVP)
    Dak Prescott
    Drew Brees
    Kirk Cousins
    Russell Wilson
    Jimmy Garoppolo
    Tom Brady
    Andy Dalton
    Derek Carr
    Case Keenum

    Obviously, you have a better chance of hitting in the first round but you can still find guys later in the draft.

  19. This guy knows the importance of having a great QB, he’d be another guy if not for Brees, and he’s kidding himself if he had a top five pick and wouldn’t consider one of these kids as a successor to Brees.

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