MIAMI'S FERGUSON RIPS PATRIOTS FOR RUBBING IT IN

The Patriots were accused of running up the score practically on a weekly basis during their undefeated regular season last year. There haven’t been complaints about that this season, probably because the Patriots haven’t had many opportunities with Matt Cassel replacing Tom Brady.
Well, the Patriots had a run-up-the-score opportunity yesterday in Miami. And they took advantage of it at the end of a game marred by fisticuffs, according to Dolphins nose tackle Jason Ferguson. The Patriots final touchdown came on fourth down in the game’s last minute.
“I think we showed a lack of class on both sides of the ball,” captain Jason Ferguson told Albert Breer of Sporting News Today. “I think they showed a lack of class, though, even after that. When you’re down to 40 seconds and you’re up 10, teams down the ball. Bottom line. You don’t continue to try to rub it in. And you can say what you want, they rubbed it in.
“That’s what rubbed guys the wrong way.”
Some Dolphins pointed out that Miami didn’t throw a pass in the fourth quarter of their blowout win in Foxborough earlier this season.
“I hope we see them again in the playoffs,” Ferguson said. “We’ll see what happens then.”

108 responses to “MIAMI'S FERGUSON RIPS PATRIOTS FOR RUBBING IT IN

  1. What are they supposed to do? Take a knee and give the ball back? Kick a field goal?
    If you don’t want them to run up the score, don’t let them score. This isn’t a top ranked team playing against a 1-AA team in college.
    Especially in a division game when the series is now split, you never know how the season is going to end, and net scoring is a tiebreaker eventually.

  2. Stop them or just shutup. Interesting how many games this season throughout the league have had large scores and wider victory margins than this game with no comments but this is the Patriots therefore it is running up the score.

  3. Yea thats right, PLAYOFFS!!!! I hope we get there. Gonna be hard. Yesterday was rough. Got burnt all day up and down the field.

  4. Or you could just shut up and stop them from scoring. Pretty simple, you get paid Millions of $$’s to play football, play the game and shut up.

  5. well the game would be in foxboro so i presume peezy would get pancaked.
    1 sack, no other tackles. 2 15 yard penalties. what a game.

  6. Didn’t watch the game, so I can’t really say much about it other than, can you be suprised? Not like they didn’t do that last year too.

  7. plain simple, bellichick wanted to make it look like a blowout, he wanted to rub it in and get revenge on his worst coaching game earlier this season…
    i really don’t respect that for the simple fact that guys started to get injured (and on both sides !) and it got to a point where there was a fight. that’s stupid from bill’s part
    but there is one brilliant thing to this… joey porter got emotionally caught by this and direspected his coach. You don’t want your team leader to get in a scuffle with your coach in the middle of a playoff push, and i think bill forecasted this scenario, he’s a cheater but a brilliant one

  8. Good Ole Prince Albert, failed to Quote Ferguson further where he also took responsibility for the Fins NOT stopping them from scoring at the same time…
    …A vital piece of information I think.

  9. I think if Ferguson is seeing anything in the playoffs, its from his television and from the comforts of his living room couch

  10. Is this for real?? A team with that loud mouth Joey Porter complaining about a lack of class? Hey Dolphins, try playing defense and STOP them for change.

  11. I think we all realized yesterday Miami is a bad team and won a few games this year with the wildcat offense.
    Couple options for the dolphins moving forward:
    1. practice harder instead of running your mouth (porter)
    2 Not give up 50 points in a game to basically a rookie QB.

  12. There’s a clip of a member of the Patriots snapping Ferguson’s bra when he wasn’t looking, too.

  13. Last week we had football players who were ignorant about overtime rules
    This week we have players who are ignorant about tie-breaking procedures and the fact that points scored could wind up being a very important tie-breaker, especially in a Conference, as well as a division, where all the wild card teams are currently at 7-4.
    Looks like Jason Ferguson is vying to take the “Idiot Award” away from his fellow teammate Porter.

  14. LOL! Joey Porter goes on national television and gives Keyshawn Johnson one of the most disrespectful and classless interviews in recent years and his teammates expect the Pats to treat them with respect.
    “Waaaaaaa! We were classless, but they were more classless because they beat our arses and made us look bad.”
    Don’t worry Jason, you won’t be going to the playoffs to see the Pats.

  15. Oh and they threw ONCE in the entire fourth quarter. There were 8 minutes left, up 10. Thats hardly a convincing lead.

  16. Thank god one of the fins finally said something about that. Its bull. And Channing Crowder should never have been ejected. Thats a horrible call by the officiating crew.

  17. Right, you didn’t throw a pass because you kept running the wildcat including that 60+ yard TD run.
    The Pats were running Green-Ellis up the middle. If Porter kept his mouth shut, the Pats wouldn’t have gotten that automatic first down that put them in the red zone. They ran it 4 straight times to run out the clock and happened to get in the endzone. The Dolphins gave up. If they didn’t want the score run up, they should have tried harder on that 4th down because none of them put up a stand.

  18. I hate the Pats and am a neutral observer who would love to see the Pats and Fins matchup in the playoffs, but all I can say Mr Ferguson is, be careful what you wish for. The Pats have a knack for the “big game”.

  19. BTW, the only reason the Pats were in position to score were because of personal foul followed by an unsportsmanlike conduct penalties committed by Joey Porter on back to back plays. So it was the Dolphins’ lack of class that set up the “classless” running up the score.

  20. Oh boo hoo. Maybe he’d feel better if they held hands in a circle and sang kum bay yah afterwards?

  21. Were the Pats really supposed to take a knee on fourth down?
    Seems bizarre. Again, it comes back to what Belichick said last year, if they kick a field goal there, they are rubbing it in too, so they are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

  22. I don’t think any teammate of Joey Porter can complain about sportsmanship. When a team talks as much as the dolphins do, they should not expect to be treated with respect.

  23. Does he want some cheess with that Whine!
    It’s PRO FOOTBALL! Stop them if you don’t like it!

  24. I’m still waiting for the story on BAL, TB, BUF, CHI, NYJ, MIN, OAK, and ATL for all running up the scores on their opponents.

  25. This is ALL about repect. Teams can’t have players saying all New England Super Bowls are tainted. Astrick this, classless that. That is why all this started last year. Joe Gibbs had a chance to defend Beliceck and didn’t. Run your mouth and we will run up the score. And for the record the Pats didn’t pass, they ran it 3 times up the gut. Nothing tricky about that.

  26. I hope we see them again in the playoffs,” Ferguson said. “We’ll see what happens then.”
    Be at peace Fergie. You and your team will not be in the playoffs.

  27. If they were really worried about the Patriots running up the score then they should have tried on the fourth down play. Even the announcers pointed out how easy it was for Green-Ellis to score as he walked into the end zone untouched.
    Nothing like giving up and then whining about the outcome.

  28. JoeSixPack:
    Rarely does it come down to that, although it does happen. The last time I can remember is the late 90’s. Sure, Ferguson is a whiny little b—-, but don’t bring that weak sauce. Man up like everyone else and tell him it’s his defenses job to stop them, especially when they know that it’ll be run, run, run again.

  29. This coming from the same team that beat them 38-13 in the first meeting of the season. I guess that wasn’t running the score or being classless to them. And I know it was highly classy of them to boast to the media when they did it with college play trickery. Hypocrites. Can’t say I heard KC bitch about Buffalo running the score on them yesterday. Whiners. I guess it stings to get beat like that by a high school QB.

  30. Hey Ferguson. You should have a conversation with Joey Porter about what sportsmanship is all about. In any league where playoff spots can be determined by a tiebreaker…..yes Donovan….points scored is a tiebreaker for the playoffs. You score the points whenever you can. If you were used to being on a playoff contender you would know that. You got two choices…get busy winning or get busy losing. Chowds choose option number one…Fins don’t show up.

  31. This complaint is BEYOND dumb. The Pats ran NOTHING but dive plays at the end of the game…with their #5 RB, an UDFA from the practice squad. I would be surprised to see Fergeson with the Phins much longer. Parcells is big on accountability, I don’t think he appreciates guys who try and shift the blame.
    What is ironic is how during the entire game, it was the Dolphins who were constantly trash talking the Pats…even while they were getting their butts kicked. It seems a shame that REAL class acts like Pennington, Brown, and Will Allen, have to play with guys like Porter and his LB cohort.
    BTW- it is a real good point that has been made about the importance of point differential as a tie breaker in a close divisional contest

  32. dolphins arent running the table. everyone will be run-and-shooting them.
    they still have to go to buffalo, and face a frisco team that will likely revert to the martz style for the game after that. and kayce sure likes to throw the ball now…
    they may need to beat the jets in week 17. if i was the jets, even if i didnt NEED that game, i wouldnt want to give them any momentum.

  33. “Does he want some cheess with that Whine!
    It’s PRO FOOTBALL! Stop them if you don’t like it!”
    This is a bogus argument. There are unwritten rules in pro sports, just like amateur or college sports. In baseball, you don’t break up an 8th inning no-hitter with a bunt. You don’t steal second when up by 10 runs. Is that written down anywhere? Nope. But violate the unwritten rules and your star hitter will see the next inside heater hit his earhole.
    Football is the same way. The Pats were up by 10 with 40 seconds left – 2 scores. The game was over. Kneel it down, or at least kick a field goal. Last year, they put Brady in the shotgun in the 4th quarter when up by 3 or 4 TDs. Classless and unnecessary. What happens? Somebody goes low on Brady in the 1st quarter of the season and ends it for him. Coincidence? I think not. Pro football has vigilante justice just like MLB.
    If these 2 teams meet in the playoffs, they may just have to read the Geneva Convention to both teams in the locker room. It’s gonna get ugly.

  34. Running up the score? All I saw was Miami’s inability to stop our 4th running back, BenJarvis Green-Ellis, and Porter’s ability to make an ass out of himself. I realize it’s a divisional game and emotions run high, but admit defeat and move on.

  35. So BB thinks it is like the BCS rankings? Or is he just making another statement like he did last year? The final game for the Pats last year did not allow them to run up the score did it.

  36. I posted this in the Camarillo story, but this seems to have attracted more attention, so here you go:
    I do love the running up the score crying. Especially from Dolphins fans, who seem to have a short memory. Dan Marino was relentless on the field, and he wanted a TD on EVERY drive. Dolphins fans loved him for the “killer instinct” he had, always going for the knockout, or the jugular, or however you prefer to say it. And that is why he was so good, one of the greatest QB’s of all time.
    Let me guess, when you pussies are playing Madden, and you are up by 30 points, do you start trying to go easy on the computer opponent? Of course you dont, you try to crush the computer every time.
    Playing basketball in middle school, I was on a team that didnt have much talent, and we got crushed almost every game. Rarely did we lose by less than 25 points. I dont remember most of those losses, the loss that I do remember, that was the most embarrassing, was a game that we lost by only 20 points. The other team was instructed to not take a shot, until they had passed the ball atleast 5 times. That was the worst feeling I have ever had playing sports. Being demoralized, as well as getting crushed by the other team. I have more respect for a team that goes about its business, than I do for a team that “goes easy” on you. On the surface, it is a nice gesture, in theory, but demoralizing if you actually do it.
    I wont defend Belichick, there are times that I dont agree with his decisions, putting up points on the scoreboard. But I will say this, kicking a field goal is TRYING to score points, the other team isnt going to block the kick, so you are intentionally scoring more points. Take yesterdays game for example. If not for Porter’s 30 yards of penalties, NE wouldnt have attempted a field goal, and woulnt have scored a TD, they would have simply run the time off the clock. Running play, after running play, straight up the middle. It wasnt end around options, where the receiver throws it to Cassell out of the back field, it wasnt a hail mary, it wasnt “trickory”, it was simple runs right up the middle. Back to the field goal thing. Kicking a field is trying to put points on the board, it is essentially the same thing as making 5 passes before being allowed to shoot in a basketball game. It says, “We are so good, and so arrogant, that we are going to take the 3 points, to spare you, because you are too pathetic to stop our offense”. Atleast when Belichick runs the same play, over and over and over again, you would think the Dolphins would recognize it, and have some pride, and stop it. Going for it on 4th and 7 (just a made up example), isnt because Belichick is making a point, and trying to score as much as possible, he is simply saying, I could take 3 points, but I dont want to put more on the board. So I am going to run a simple play up the middle, a play that shouldnt work, so you can get a stop, and keep us out of the end zone.
    The next issue, about “running up the score”. The average lifespan of NFL players is 3 seasons. Just because this one single game is “locked up”, doesnt mean anything in the grand scheme of these players. An undrafted running back (BenJarvis Green-Ellis for example) has no guarentee at a long career in the NFL, of course he is hungry to score a TD, even if it is in mop up duty. He might not be on the team next year, even though Maroney is on IR, Green-Ellis, is essentially fighting Maroney for a spot on next years roster, and I cant fault him for putting it in the end zone. When you get a shot to play, you are playing for your life (unless you are an established superstar). There are bigger things going on, than simply “trying to run up the score”.
    My last point, are the bitches that are crying about NE winning by 20 points. 20 freakin points!!!!!! BUT, they are the same people that rub NE fan’s noses in the fact, that in week 3, Miami whooped NE 38-13. That is a 25 point beat down, Miami debacled the Pats. How can you think that a 25 point beatdown is perfectly acceptable, but a 20 point NE win, isnt acceptable? I was not insulted by NE getting whooped by 25, it is pro football, you try to score every time you touch the ball. I have also read comments about people saying things like, “Miami still holds the lead in the head to head all time”. Ok, what does that have to do with anything? That goes back to all of the beatdowns that Marino laid on the Pats. If you are going to talk about “class”, and “not running up the score” in one breath, you cant talk about the all time head to head battle, or the 25 point beatdown from week 3 in the next breath.
    Also, when did football, become a game of class? It is a physical, violent game. Do Raiders fans care if the Raiders win with class? Absolutely not, so why should you? Do Cowboys fans care if the Cowboys win with class? Absolutely not, they only care that their team won, so why do you care? Do Eagles fans care if the Eagles win with class? I think you understand where this going. We can all agree that there is a right way to win, and a wrong way to win, but that line is obviously not clearly defined. Some people think that kicking a meaningless field goal at the end, is winning with class. Think about it, if you are concerned with “running up the score”, that means that ALL “meaningless points” at the end of the game is running up the score, that includes TD’s, field goals, safeties…… Last week, people were bitching about the officials messing up the Steelers game, with the final score 11-10. Using the “rules” for “winning classy”, Polomalu should have simply layed down with the ball, rather than running it into the endzone, and scoring un-necessary points. Scoring that TD isnt classy, right?

  37. Here they are….I wondered where all the patriots fans went after they got trounced by a rebuilding team that won 1 game last season a few weeks ago…truth is, your patriots beat a team they SHOULD have beaten yesterday.
    I’m just glad that you are a season away from being akin to cowboys fans where you celebrate what you once were…tool knockers

  38. Maybe ferguson should have talked to this guy (if he could find him after the game to talk because the media sure couldn’t)
    Miami linebacker Joey Porter opened his mouth again when asked if the Patriots would be seeking payback for the Dolphins’ win in Week 3. “It’s on everybody’s minds,” he said. “If you lose to anybody, you want to pay them back. That’s just part of the game. You want to beat everybody every time you take the field. Are we worried about that? No. They’ve got to come down here and prove it. So we’re going to be ready.”

  39. I guess the Dolphins have had a very difficult time over the last several years…because they get into an ..’ important’ game…and throw up all over themselves.
    Crowder, Porter and friends chirped all game,,but failed to realize their assignments…and got their butts kicked.
    Fergie, am a Dolphin fan…..show some class here….you sound like a whiny little boy…This is the NFL

  40. Miami beat New England by 25 points and relentlesly ran that wildcat offense into the 4th quarter. We won be 20 points and all of a sudden we’re “running up the score”. We wouldn’t have a chance to run up the score if Porter hadn’t given us 30 yards worth of PERSONAL FOUL PENALITIES. Not to mention, every single time it was a run right up the gut by Green-Ellis. Ferguson clearly has a very short term memory.

  41. He is just embarressed because he spent the 4th quarter getting rub over by an undrafted rookie who started the season on the practice squad. Maybe he should of stopped him….he is the nose tackle after all, that’s his job.
    Plus, the Patriots only won by 20, while Miami beat the Pats by 25 points in the first game, so was Miami running up the score in that game?

  42. Yep…Seven straight runs by Benjarvus. How unsportsmanlike!
    The real humor is that the Patriots COULDN’T run out the clock, because Porter kept stopping it by committing penalties.

  43. Point differential as a tiebreaker is ranked 9th. I doubt they would EVER get past the first 8. Good point nonetheless.

  44. Sounds like there was alot of “rubbing” going on, pretty disturbing.
    But on a serious note Light should be suspended at least two games for his unacceptable behavior. Maybe I missed something, but it didn’t look like Crowder did anything wrong. It looked like he gave Light nothing more than a shove that you would see happen after almost every play. Light answered by removing Channing’s helmet, pulling his hair and punching him in the face multiple times. It was a disgrace seeing Light act that way. It would be a shame if he doesn’t face strict discipline from the league. I also wouldn’t be suprised if Crowder was suspended considering he was ejected, but again, unless I’m missing something here, it doesn’t seem warranted.

  45. kellyb9 says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    Running up the score? All I saw was Miami’s inability to stop our 4th running back, BenJarvis Green-Ellis, and Porter’s ability to make an ass out of himself. I realize it’s a divisional game and emotions run high, but admit defeat and move on.
    ——————————————
    Check last year’s results for a little background on Belichick running up the score.
    38-14
    38-14
    38-7
    34-13
    34-17
    48-27
    49-28 – 42-21 and Brady threw for another TD. This was against Miami, BTW
    52-7 – in this one, Brady was still passing for TDs when the score was 38-0
    24-20
    56-10 – 35-7 and Brady threw for another TD
    31-28
    27-24
    34-13
    20-10
    28-7
    38-35
    There’s nothing against the rules about running up the score.. But you know what to expect. Honestly, I was shocked Brady didn’t take some blatant late hits in some of the blowouts. These guys have pride and Belichick should know better. It results in a lot of chippy play and someone ends up throwing punches or going for knees.
    At the very least he should have his marquee players out of the game when he runs up the score. The players on the field are the ones who pay the price for it.

  46. Is Matt “Cassell” related to Sam Cassell?
    (I’m adding the quote marks this time so I don’t catch as much flak. How many many PFW staffers does it take to spell a starting NFL quarterback’s name right? I’ve now seen “Cassell” three times in the last week).

  47. FlorioHatesMyTeamMoreThanHeHatesYourTeamWaahhh says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    Dan Marino was relentless on the field, and he wanted a TD on EVERY drive. Dolphins fans loved him for the “killer instinct” he had, always going for the knockout, or the jugular, or however you prefer to say it. And that is why he was so good, one of the greatest QB’s of all time.
    ——————————–
    As far as I can tell (through a very quick run through the numbers) the Marino-era Dolphins never came close to approaching a 315 point differential between points scored and points allowed. In fact, I don’t believe they came within 100 points of that. So they didn’t run up the scores like the Pats last season.
    Secondly, no one is faulting Matt Cassell for running up the scores. They’re talking about Bill Belichick. Don Shula didn’t do it, for the most part. Maybe that’s something Bill could learn from one of the greats.

  48. I hope we see them again in the playoffs,” Ferguson said. “We’ll see what happens then.”
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Well, it worked for the Giants.

  49. Mistress Rachael…If the guy who wrote that article included the entire interview, you would realize that he did in fact show some class and even took responsibility for failing to stop them from scoring.
    The entire interview is on Miamidolphins.com, not just the fuel for the pats fans to come out of the closet with.

  50. I always say: “This ass whippin doesn’t stop till the clock hits zero”.
    Good for the Pats. Stomp a mudhole in your division rival and walk it dry.

  51. Yes, they brought in the feature back, Benjarvus Green-Ellis and rubbed it in.
    Thanks to all the classy personal fouls by Joey Porter in the minute leading up to this which put the ball on the Dolphins 15 yard line.
    Chalk one up to divisional rivalry.
    Dolphins did well to compete this year.
    Let’s see if these points have an impact in any playoff tiebreakers

  52. I just love the “the were up by 10 with 40 seconds left, they should of just kneeled it” argument.
    So you kneel on fourth down. Guess what? The clock stops and the other team gets the ball.
    Now the Dolphins get a chance, however small, to heave the ball down the field and grab a td.
    Onside kick recovery, quick field goal, and it’s off to overtime.
    Unlikely, yes, but if it had happened that way, then Bill B. would be getting killed for not going for the TD

  53. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: JoeSixPack:
    Rarely does it come down to that, although it does happen. The last time I can remember is the late 90’s. Sure, Ferguson is a whiny little b—-, but don’t bring that weak sauce. Man up like everyone else and tell him it’s his defenses job to stop them, especially when they know that it’ll be run, run, run again.
    Yep – but this is beyond “if you don’t like it stop it…” Ferguson can’t understand why its in a team’s interest to win with as many points as possible – and given the fact that the Pats and Dolphins could end up with the same record, its more likely that the “strength of victory” would come into play and that the Pats should have actually worked to score MORE points to one-up the 25 point shellacking handed out by the Fins in Week 3 (which Ferguson doesn’t seem to think was classless)
    Here’s the tie-breaking procedures… it’s not inconceivable that multiple 11-5 teams could need to go to tie breaker #5 – strength of victory, where points scored are going to play a role:
    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

  54. stop crying. All the Dolphins had to do was stop running plays they knew were coming for that entire drive – plays being ran by an undrafted rookie free agent who began the season fourth on the depth chart at running back. Should the Patriots have taken a knee at the one-yard line. Then when the Dolphins got the ball back, the Patriots then would have had to not tried on defense, wouldn’t want to risk a safety or a hard tackle that might upset the Dolphins. And news flash Dolphins – you aren’t making the playoffs.

  55. They had 2nd and 7 after the two minute warning. They were supposed to kneel and give the ball to the Dolphins with 40 seconds left on the clock?
    Do you suppose the Dolphins would have taken that opportunity to run out the clock? I’m quite sure they would have.

  56. Nice, I hope Parcells kicks Ferguson and the rest of those out of control knuckleheads asses. Joey Porter goes on national television and completely disrespect the players and the organization…and the Pats players knew about it, someone made sure to tell them, Wilfork said that today on the air. The whole game, on both sides of the ball Miami talking shit, Wilfork quoted that their offense took it to a new level of smack taking personal shots (“family”) in other words I’m sure a few choice “yo mamma” comments. Nice. Light on WAAF saying that the linebackers and the rest of those turds take their cue from Putz Porter who would not stop talking shit (the usual and a new level of personal)…the rest of the turds like Chowder jumped in the whole game and thought they would talk the same level of shit also. Nasty personal stuff. The Ref kept telling that PoS Porter to STFU according to the Pats O lineman but he wouldn’t and he finally threw the flag. Check that out, he didn’t insult the Ref like most people thought to get flagged, he was just an undisciplined PoS who couldn’t shut his effing’ yap after being warned repeatedly by the Man. The only play he made the whole game was when he went offsides to make a sack and the Ref’s missed it. Then the Pats run it right up their throats…the JV backfield too and that PoS team couldn’t stop them and then have the nads to say they were disrespected? Miami sucks. They will never see the Pats in the playoffs. They got exposed, they aint going anywhere and BB and those players have too much pride to take shit from that crew. When Miami got pissed they had a meltdown, when the Pats got disrespected they beat their ass and ran the ball down their throats…and bitch slapped Mary J Chowder to boot.

  57. That is Baloney (sic)..they were calling time outs.. If they call time outs, the Pats run plays. Q.E.D.

  58. Jonathan 9999,
    That didnt mean Miami has a bad team. They are 6-5, one game behind he Pats- We won 4 out of five.
    It means we got whipped. It happens, like we whipped them earlier.
    Big Deal.

  59. This is ridiculous. Thanks to Joey Porter, it was 4th and goal from the 1 with 40 seconds left. The Pats had to choose between scoring a touchdown, kicking a field goal, or giving the ball back with a 13 point lead. BB knows better than to assume that nobody can score two TDs in 40 seconds, so he made a reasonable and responsible choice.

  60. “finsbooyah says:
    But on a serious note Light should be suspended at least two games for his unacceptable behavior. Maybe I missed something, but it didn’t look like Crowder did anything wrong.”
    Watch the replays…..here’s my post from another thread…and I am being very objective:
    “It was inexcusable, but after watching the replay a few times I can definately see where both guys were coming from. Crowder did lunge at Light after the play, and I assume it’s because he thought Light shoved him unnecessarily after his helmet got knocked off, when in actuality, Hochstein got pushed into Light, which propelled Light into Crowder harder. Light shouldn’t have swung at Crowder, but Crowder DID come at him in what appeared to be a moment of confusion. That would also explain why Crowder was ejected as well and it will be interesting to see if he draws a fine.”

  61. The Patriots wouldn’t have gotten that close to the end zone if it wasn’t for Porter opening his big mouth and get that 15 yard penalty

  62. Patriots win huge, they’re accused of being jerks by running up the score.
    Patriots win by 3 and they’re accused of using video equipment to get the field goal edge.
    The Patriots can’t win even when they win?

  63. What did the Dolphins do in their first meeting? Tore up the Pats!
    If I was a Dolphin I certainly wouldn’t be complaining. As for the Patriots, they need to get Cassell all the full speed reps they can prior to the playoffs. I’m non-partisan on this one, but suck it up Fins!

  64. jimicos says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
    FlorioHatesMyTeamMoreThanHeHatesYourTeamWaahhh says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    Dan Marino was relentless on the field, and he wanted a TD on EVERY drive. Dolphins fans loved him for the “killer instinct” he had, always going for the knockout, or the jugular, or however you prefer to say it. And that is why he was so good, one of the greatest QB’s of all time.
    I’m not trying to be a wise guy or anything, but is it possible, that Miami never had a defense as good as NE’s defense last year? I know Marino threw for 5,000+ yards one year, that is going to produce ALOT of points. But if your defense cant stop anyone, you wont have a chance to “run up the score” on anyone.

  65. 48-28 is 20 point deficit, 38-15 is 25 point deficit (a Dolphins win) and the Patriots are running up the score? Shut up, you got smacked around, move on, jeez.

  66. Pats probably should have punted on 4th and goal.Dolphins and the rest of WABs around the country would have felt better today.

  67. Maybe Matt thought he was punching out Porter! Ooops…
    Seriously, don’t want to hear anything from the Fins. Frankly I’m surprised BP hasn’t put a foot in his ass! This might be the perfect example of a situation that Bill Parcell’s was waiting for ??? I’d bet a few bucks, they’ve ,” had a conversation about talking smack before the game!” say me

  68. Jimico,
    You are obviously a newbie to the history of football. Don Shula always ran the scores up from 1971 on.You looked up the scores from last year and determined the Pats ran it up?? I agree take the marquee players out of the game EXCEPT the TD was scored by a former practice squad undrafted FA RB who ran dive after dive against the pathetic Miami(can we call it?)D.And led by that HIGH SCHOOL QB!

  69. Its way more likely that neither one of these sorry teams make the playoffs than both of them do, especially when you look at their schedules (Miami 4 of 5 remaining games on the road) (New England still has Pittsburgh and Arizona at home, at Buffalo and two games on the West Coast) and compare that to the schedule of the Jets, Colts, and Bills (dont count them out)and the Ravens (although they have a tough schedule) but they are looking really good right now.
    They both might just have to wait until next year to settle their fight unless they agree to settle it like a bunch of real truly overpaid athletes would – on the golf course, January 1st, tee time 10am, just in case anyone was hanging out with Rex Grossman the night before.
    Playoff Prediction : 1. Titans 2. Jets 3. Steelers 4. Broncos 5. Ravens 6. Colts

  70. i am also surprised parcells hasnt called them in for a dutch uncle talk.
    players: we’re here bill. we’re really sor-
    bill: stfu and never do it again.
    players: but –
    bill: but nothing. stfu. and go get me a philly cheese steak. then stfu again. it was really nice talkin to u when i told u to stfu. let’s do it again sometime. now get lost. and stfu.

  71. “newenglandfan says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
    Pats probably should have punted on 4th and goal.Dolphins and the rest of WABs around the country would have felt better today. ”
    The way Ted Ginn was playing special teams in the 4th quarter, they could have punted on 4th and goal from the 1….and still ended up with the TD.

  72. I suppose we can ask why Nose tackle Ferguson couldn’t stop a 4th string/undrafted rookie from getting into the endzone when the kid was running straight into the middle of the pile to run out the clock.

  73. It’s the freaking defense’s job to keep the score down, not the offense of the opposite team. Honestly, I see absolutely no reason why a team should feel obligated to stop scoring simply because their opponents suck. “Class” is just a bullshit excuse used to guilt the other team into not making them look like they suck so badly.
    When my team plays like shit, I get pissed at them for playing like shit. I don’t blame the other team for playing football; that’s what they get paid to do. Anyone who stops trying while in the midst of a competition is either lazy or crazy (or maybe they’re super gullible and they by into bullshit like this).

  74. I think even Dolphins fans have to be shaking their head on this one. They desparately want to return to Football respectability but when guys like Porter and Ferguson open their mouth, it’s an embarrassment to the organization – especially when Ferguson is bitching and moaning about the “classless” 20 point win of the Patriots on the heals of the “classy” 25 point win of the Dolphins earlier this season.

  75. I think Ferguson is just tired of losing to the Patriots. He has a lot of practice. He’s gone from being an underachieving Jet to being an underachieving Dolphin. That list of blowouts from last season just drives home the point of what an amazing team the 2007 Petriots were. Too bad they couldn’t close the deal against the Giants. And, Empty13, that fake transcript of Parcells telling his team to STFU was LOL funny.

  76. At least the Patriots scored like men – unlike that high school trick play crap the Dolphins have to use to win games…

  77. SVNRDR..
    Understood Fergie really isn’t bush league, but the point of all of this is the Dolphins did a real poor job handling a big game atmosphere…which is really too bad because Sparano has done a great job turning around the attitude there. Crowder/Porter did nothing but chirp all day,,,forgetting to even make tackles & both got exposed as fundamentally poor players.
    Question though ??? why would you expect any Patriot fan to hide in a closet when theyve been the premier franchise in NFL for years now. I look @ them and see what I’d like the Dolphins to become…but you don’t get there by chirping…you’ve got to beat them when it counts.

  78. jimicos says:
    Check last year’s results for a little background on Belichick running up the score.
    38-14
    38-14
    38-7
    34-13
    34-17
    48-27
    49-28 – 42-21 and Brady threw for another TD. This was against Miami, BTW
    52-7 – in this one, Brady was still passing for TDs when the score was 38-0
    24-20
    56-10 – 35-7 and Brady threw for another TD
    31-28
    27-24
    34-13
    20-10
    28-7
    38-35
    There’s nothing against the rules about running up the score.. But you know what to expect. Honestly, I was shocked Brady didn’t take some blatant late hits in some of the blowouts. These guys have pride and Belichick should know better. It results in a lot of chippy play and someone ends up throwing punches or going for knees.
    At the very least he should have his marquee players out of the game when he runs up the score. The players on the field are the ones who pay the price for it.
    —————————————————————–
    1. Thanks for the 2007 recap. Brings back some great memories. What a season!
    2. Someone did take a cheap shop at Brady’s knees, remember Bernard Pollard or whatever his name is?
    3. Seems to me the Patriots, ahem, “ran up the score” (rolls eyes) yesterday without their marquee players…Brady, Maroney, Jordan, Harrison…you get the picture, no?
    4. Buffalo ut up 50+ points yesterday against a KC team which is arguably worse than any team the 07 Pats, uh, ran up the score (rolls eyes) against last year. Where’s the outrage

  79. FCSquid says:
    “Football is the same way. The Pats were up by 10 with 40 seconds left – 2 scores. The game was over. Kneel it down, or at least kick a field goal. Last year, they put Brady in the shotgun in the 4th quarter when up by 3 or 4 TDs. Classless and unnecessary. What happens? Somebody goes low on Brady in the 1st quarter of the season and ends it for him. Coincidence? I think not. Pro football has vigilante justice just like MLB.”
    Here is the real deal on why there will be no FG in that situation. BB plays Field Possession FB at ALL times. If they kick a FG, then they have to kick off. That gives the other team a chance to return it for a TD (the Pats were burned by the Jets last week on one), and then attempt an on-sides kick and have a short field to score a quick TD for the win. This scenario is infinitely more possible and therefore favorable to the Pats’ opponent than if the Pats score (the best case scenario that puts them up by three scores) or turn it over on downs at the one (leaving the opponent a 99 yard drive, on-side kick and FG away from a tie).
    It’s situational football, not (boo hoo, ‘Phins Fans) “running up the score”. I’ve seen too many games like yesterday and I can tell you that, if you can’t immediately see the logic, think of all permutations in the aforementioned context and it becomes clear. The “W” is all that matters. Getting that secured dwarfs all other concerns such as a players hurt feelings, favorable press clippings, fan acceptance, etc.
    Hate on…

  80. @Ralphie …. I heard Bruschi on the radio saying similar things. There is an unwritten rule to trash talking and the Fins went beyond that. Although nobody will say what happened with the Light situation I can’t imagine that Light would ever do that with something that was ticky tacky. I really have never seen Light lose his cool. You Fin fans are something else…. on another post one of you “classy” fans wanted to see major injury to Wes Welker. Just sick to wish injury on any player on any team. As for Joey Porter he is a POS who brought this on his team. Great interview right before the game… POS. Never have I heard a Pats player say anything negative and insane about any opponent or their head coach. Having Parcells here for years he would never want his players to say the things that Porter and Ferguson have said. Fuel for the other team. Remember BB coached under Parcells and they do have some of the same philosophies. Fins fans you should STFU and look in the mirror and realize that you just got beat. Look at your players and what they did wrong. Don’t blame this loss or “running up the score” on the Pats. You have some big mouth POS players who did this to themselves and you as fans have to pay for their mistakes.

  81. as a football fanatic and to answer your question, yes, the patsies were supposed to kneel down or just kick the field, don’t rub it in… but then again, Mr. Billi-d-chick has NO class and doesn’t not know anything about sportsmanship.. he was caught cheating for how many years? and the only thing he can do now and run-out the score with 40 seconds remaining so he can justify that is good without cheating… am a proud dolfan and what i saw was a very football game between a champion caliber team and a rebuilding team, who will get a lot better next year and will kick Billi-d-chick’s chicks @$$ next year… if not this year (again)… the patsy’s fans were no-where to found in week 3 and now they’re thinking about the playoffs.. for christ sake, you just beat a rebuilding team.. you should be ashamed of yourself that a bunch of 2nd teamers gave you hell for 3 and-a-half quarters… go fins…

  82. by the way Bill Bili-d-chick is a crook, and he’s still coaching in the NFL, so let’s not point any fingers to Joey Porter.. and as far as Randy Moss, can someone please watch the highlights and tell if he doesn’t push and hold the defenders in at least 50% of the time??

  83. you patsies are bunch of lousy fans… your patsies were up by 13 pts with 40 seconds remaining… a field would have put you up by 16 pts.. now, what are the chances of the dolphins or any other team scoring 16 pts. in 40 seconds… Bili-d-chick was wrong again, and he just wanted to rub it in, simple as that… but what can you expect from a coach like him… he is a crook… Is he Russian??? he is one hellavu spy…
    i still cannot believe you the patsy’s are still proud of their franchise for all those years that Mr. Bill Bili-d-chick has cheated soooo many teams and fans…

  84. dfins say: “now, what are the chances of the dolphins or any other team scoring 16 pts. in 40 seconds”. Is this your first time watching football? Just wanted to know.

  85. Playoffs? Ha very funny Ferguson! I’m a dedicated Fin fan and have not seen the playoffs since I was learning the alphabet. Have not seen a Super Bowl since I was potty training. Playoffs? Are you kidding? Let’s just keep re-building. We are on the right track. Even if a miracle does happen and we make the playoffs, Our secondary could not cover a pass thrown to Jessica Simpson. Our special teams could not cover a kick off return being ran back by Stevie Wonder! Let’s just continue our rebuilding, learn, re-group and worry about our next game!
    Beleive 2009

  86. Oh no!! The Saints just beat the Packers 51-29. Where are all the haters pissing and moaning that the Saints ran up the score, after all the point difference was more than the Pats!!!

  87. And people pick on McNabb for not knowing about ties. From the article, “Some Dolphins pointed out that Miami didn’t throw a pass in the fourth quarter of their blowout win in Foxborough earlier this season.”
    Hey Dolphin players, you weren’t throwing the ball in the 4th qtr because your coaches didn’t want to run up the score, you don’t throw in the 4th qtr when you are in the lead because you can get intercepted or incompletions which stop the clock and give your opponents time to catch up.
    Of course there are some coaching staffs in the NFL that aren’t aware of this concept such as Houston which has thrown their leads away, no pun intended.

  88. Treadstone says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 12:32 am
    Oh no!! The Saints just beat the Packers 51-29. Where are all the haters pissing and moaning that the Saints ran up the score, after all the point difference was more than the Pats!!!
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    Idiot. The Saints’ last pass play came in the 3rd quarter. Yeah, they were really running up the score.

  89. But it was perfectly ok when Miami ran the score up on New England in the previous game. WTF ever! I’m so sick of pussies this is football people!

  90. Ok, I feel the need to address a couple of the (imo) dumber comments that have been repeated here again and again.
    “Oh no!! The Saints just beat the Packers 51-29. Where are all the haters pissing and moaning that the Saints ran up the score, after all the point difference was more than the Pats!!! ”
    The obvious difference is that the Saints did not try to keep running up the score in the final minute when they already had the game in hand. They didn’t leave their starters in, as the Pats tend to do, for example. It was the same with the Bills-Chief game. Why is that so hard to understand?
    “If you don’t want them to run up the score, don’t let them score.”
    It seems pointless to make this comment, since anytime there is a story about a team running up the score, it inevitably means their opponent was unable to stop them from scoring. That’s not the point of the story though.

  91. Ok, I feel the need to address a couple of the comments that have been repeated here over and over.
    “Oh no!! The Saints just beat the Packers 51-29. Where are all the haters pissing and moaning that the Saints ran up the score, after all the point difference was more than the Pats!!!”
    The obvious difference is that the Saints did not keep their starters in and continue to go for touchdowns in the last minute when they already had the game in hand. Neither did the Bills after they had the game in hand against the Chiefs.
    “If you don’t like it, stop them from scoring.”
    Well, we would never have a story about a team running up the score if the opponent was able to stop them would we? It kinda misses the point.

  92. spikenpatrick08 says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
    But it was perfectly ok when Miami ran the score up on New England in the previous game. WTF ever! I’m so sick of pussies this is football people!
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    I’m not a Dolphins fan (or player), but I imagine last year’s games probably played into how Miami ran up the score earlier this year against the Pats. The Patriots beat Miami last year by a combined score of 77-35.

  93. FlorioHatesMyTeamMoreThanHeHatesYourTeamWaahhh says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
    I’m not trying to be a wise guy or anything, but is it possible, that Miami never had a defense as good as NE’s defense last year? I know Marino threw for 5,000+ yards one year, that is going to produce ALOT of points. But if your defense cant stop anyone, you wont have a chance to “run up the score” on anyone.
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    Miami’s defense in ’83 was ranked #1 in the league in points allowed. They went 12-4, but their point differential was only 139. They allowed 250 points that year, fewer than the 274 allowed in ’07 by the Pats.

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