AN OPEN CALL FOR AN INVESTIGATION OF GERALD POINDEXTER

Throughout much of last year’s Mike Vick fiasco, we suspected that Surry County, Virginia prosecutor Gerald Poindexter was incompetent. 
The feds likely agreed; the notion that Poindexter was bungling the state-level investigation prompted the United States Department of Agriculture to intervene.
Even as readers openly speculated that Poindexter had improper motives (some even wondered whether Poindexter attended dog fights at Vick’s property), we assumed that it was a case of a part-time prosecutor who didn’t get paid enough money to wrangle with an O.J.-style dream team.
But now we’re not so sure.  And, for the first time, we’re making an open plea to the appropriate authorities, state or federal or both, to fully and comprehensively investigate Poindexter’s handling of the case.
We began to fear that something fishy might be happening when Poindexter failed to secure an indictment of Vick on at least six counts of killing dogs, given that Vick admitted to doing so in the paperwork that he signed when pleading guilty to unrelated federal charges.
The last straw for us came on Tuesday, via Poindexter’s grossly inappropriate (in our opinion) statements and actions in connection with the hearing during which Vick’s no-jail-time guilty plea was accepted by a local judge. 
After the hearing, Poindexter hugged Vick’s mother and told her, “At least some of this is over.”
Then, in defending the plea deal to the press, Poindexter said, “I feel that what I did today is approved by more than a majority of Surry County, and that’s the constituency that I’m concerned about.”
Prosecutors shouldn’t worry about constituencies.  They should worry about justice being done. 
In this case, complete justice was not done.
And since there’s no way that Vick will face any further justice for the conduct in which he already has engaged, we think that Poindexter’s potential responsibility for preventing justice from being done should be examined, with no stone unturned and no theory or motive foreclosed.

72 responses to “AN OPEN CALL FOR AN INVESTIGATION OF GERALD POINDEXTER

  1. Why else would Vick buy that house out in BFE? Pointdexter has stood in the way of anyone making a case against Vick since this all started. I think this clown actually thought he could sweep this whole thing under the rug and he might have if the Fed’s hadn’t gotten involved even though at the time “he was handling it”. This guy is a criminal and should be prosecuted.

  2. Wow. (Yawn) That’s fascinating stuff. I’ve never been so happy to read more on the Michael Vick saga. Please, please don’t stop! Bring us more each day.

  3. I couldn’t agree more. I started reading this site faithfully when you were covering this story, you seemed to be the only person not buying his “I’m innocent” act. Keep fighting the good fight, Florio!

  4. Leave the man alone. Why don’t you just go after all the prosecutors that don’t do their job. I think he did a great job. I wanna see Vick play as soon as possible. It was only dogs. If Vick had done bad things to actual human beings then he should of gone after him hardcore. But it was only dogs so its not a big deal. Hopefully Gruden will pick Vick up. That would be awesome. GO BUCS!

  5. I can appreciate the vendetta for a corrupt prosecutor. He’s probably dirty or just lazy. Either way, someone with such a lack of scruples shouldn’t hold the job.
    I think Vick has paid his dues though. It may be true that by the letter of the law, Vick could be punished further. However, just because Poindexter has been working to avoid prosecuting Vick, this does not mean Vick deserves more time in jail. I never liked Vick, but I think he should be given a chance to straighten his life out.

  6. > Prosecutors shouldn’t worry about constituencies. They should worry about justice being done.
    For some reason I thought this site was worried about football.
    Since when did you become an expert on prosecutors and how they are suppose to act?
    Here is my open plea that you start focusing on things you actually know about.

  7. I wonder how long Florio looked at this before posting it as he desperately tried to fit in a Jackie Chiles reference.

  8. Southernboi727, you must not have heard the uproar when Clinton Portis said the same thing you just did. People realized he was a moron.

  9. “Prosecutors shouldn’t worry about constituencies. They should worry about justice being done.”
    Exactly. Poindexter has an obligation to the law, although I’d love to see the poll he commissioned to determine how exactly his constituency feels about his matter.

  10. I agree that yes when his jailtime is up, Vick has paid his dues. But to say “Its only dogs” is just plain dumb. Its barbaric and soooo outdated. As are most sports involving animals to begin with. What age do we live in? Where we as human beings have to get our jollies watching a inferior species rip each other to shreds. Makes me shake my head at humanity!

  11. I understand that you have a personal issue with Vick and that is absolutely fine. However, if you are to continue to pursue justice in this manner please consider the following. He has spent the last two years in prison, his “father” completely sold him out in an attempt to make a quick buck, his friends (whom he supported for years) betrayed him to save their own necks, he was bankrupt, he lost the great job on earth, he was protested, and he will never be able to regain a respectable reputation. There is very little remaining to be taken from Michael Vick. His entire life was taken from him which, to me, is adequate punishment for the crime committed. If Pacman can be granted an eleventh chance you may consider cutting Vick some slack

  12. “Southernboi727 says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
    Leave the man alone. Why don’t you just go after all the prosecutors that don’t do their job. I think he did a great job. I wanna see Vick play as soon as possible. It was only dogs. If Vick had done bad things to actual human beings then he should of gone after him hardcore. But it was only dogs so its not a big deal. Hopefully Gruden will pick Vick up. That would be awesome. GO BUCS! ”
    Southernboi, I have read a lot of stupid and ignorant things on the internet over the last 20 years (yes back in the days of usenet and UUCP), but this takes the cake. Wow.

  13. You already know how I was going to respond to this Mike. Who do we write to in Virginia to ask fro an investigation ?

  14. Keep going after him, Florio. Vick is serving the time for his crime. Unfortunately, a crooked prosecutor failed to do his job. Poindexter certainly should be investigated for this mess. He’s treating Vick like a victim instead of doing the work the law demands of him.

  15. Don’t you think that people with actual legal knowledge have looked into this? I can guarantee you that there is some kind of fact about the possibility of more charges against him being made that you are missing. It probably has to do with the fact he gave full disclosure as part of his ple deal, so he can’t be prosecuted further. The STATE agreed to this! To suggest this kind of thing is almost slanderous and definitely dumb, especially when you don’t understand all the facts.
    If the day comes where florio initiates a legal proceeding that professionals missed, we might as well kill ourselves on the spot. The world is about to explode.

  16. Vick might’ve gotten a walk on the dog killings, and Goodell might even reinstate him, but you still can’t show me an owner willing to take the gamble. Vick is a dirtball just like his brother, just like his cousin, and we all know by now that dirtballs can only keep it together for so long before blowing it again. Remember, Vick was in trouble for weed and spreading STDs BEFORE the dog fighting thing broke.
    Classic case of risk vs reward, and face it Vick’s upside doesn’t justify angering animal lovers. What are you going to get in the meantime… 15 total TDs? No thanks…

  17. Vick deserves more punishment. Unfortunatley, so did Kobe for raping that girl in Colorado…ya can’t settle out of court with a bunch of dogs I guess.

  18. We’ve been calling for an investigation on him for some time now here in Eastern Virginia. The man should have been fired by now. I think people are affraid the “race card” will be played.

  19. >>>>>>
    if you are to continue to pursue justice in this manner please consider the following. He has spent the last two years in prison,
    >>>>>>
    No he hasn’t.
    As for you other dopes who suggest Florio should leave law to the lawyers, please consider the following:
    HE IS A LAWYER!
    Go get ’em Mike!

  20. Raiders757 says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
    We’ve been calling for an investigation on him for some time now here in Eastern Virginia. The man should have been fired by now. I think people are affraid the “race card” will be played.
    OMG, you mean to tell me they we also racing dogs as well???!!! Throw the book at them!!!

  21. “For some reason I thought this site was worried about football.
    Since when did you become an expert on prosecutors and how they are suppose to act?”
    Um, you do know Florio is a lawyer, and PFT is a side project, right?

  22. expect more of the same now that the “chosen one” has ascended to the white house, or is “descended”?

  23. Just a simple question…are all Southern DA’s corrupt? Reason I ask is that you have Mike Nifong doing after the three Duke Lacrosse players, with no evidence (read “Until Proven Innocent”), and now Gerald Poindexter, who screwed up the investigation to a point where the Feds had to step in.
    Sorry, I’m just a retired Sailor that lives on the West Coast…and we’ve got our share here that are clueless…

  24. This story clearly goes beyond Michael Vick. What else is this prosecutor screwing up??? Perhaps the local and state boys fear the “race card” cries, but if the Feds get invoved, they don’t play that and Poindexter will be toast.

  25. Anyone else that they would create a board for Florio’s useless ramblings?
    I love the real rumors and insider information. Anything beyond that should be elsewhere….

  26. “The feds likely agreed; the notion that Poindexter was bungling the state-level investigation prompted the United States Department of Agriculture to intervene.”
    And you say this with absolutely no irony or critical attitude.
    this country is just a mess, a government that is so massive we have faceless bureaucracies able to do criminal investigations and no one seems to think twice about it. Printing money like there is no tomorrow…
    I expect that thinking from Democrats and liberals, like yourself.

  27. The reverse camera angle of Poinvickster hugging big ole Luscious Boddie shows that he was copping a fell of her 79lb left rump cheek.
    The man has been in Vick’s back pocket, spewing information about federal warrants tipping off Ookie and his fellow pieces of shit from day one.
    Hopefully someone can step in, do the right thing and send Ookie and Poindexter both to jail.

  28. Mike Florio 2012. I’m writing him in. keep up the great work Mike.
    for all the rest of you ignorant simpletons who claim Florio doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The bar just called and they said STFU.
    FLORIO IS A LAWYER

  29. FJ:
    Florio is a LAWYER, moron. If ye doth knowth nothing of which thou speakth, keepth thine mouth SHUT!

  30. Southernboi727:
    I can’t begin to describe what a total moron you are. It was only dogs? And you want him to come to the Bucs? I sure hope you’re not a season ticket holder. If so, I’m begging you to turn them back in. The Bucs do not need fans like you.

  31. yup vince old “resident zero” is probly going to tab poindexter for one of them US attorney’s positions…
    and since southernboi is probly black, the comments about him are even funnier…

  32. Florio, you need to get your head out of your ass.
    All elected officials are worried about constituencies, that’s how they become elected.
    Like it or not, that’s the electoral process in the great USA.
    Same way your boy Obama didn’t object to bilions of dollars in pork barrel spending when they approved the 700 billion bailout. It’s all about local officials getting elected.
    I agree, Vick is a dick, and Poindexter has issues, but don’t bring this into a PFT site.
    Stick to posting your ‘scoops’ and the like.
    You are really bordering on ‘Jumping the Shark’
    There are people far more connected in the NFL who could run a site like this, and it won’t be long before your gig is up if you keep up this crap.

  33. BarkingTuna,
    Florio is a lawyer! Big deal.
    Contract Law, which is his deal, is different from criminal law. Same is it different from Real Estate law, Personal Injury Law.
    Do you want a pediatrician performing a heart by-pass?
    It’s specialized, so just because someone has a law degree, doesn’t make them an expert on all things related to the law.
    Remove your lips from Florio’s ass and learn get educated.

  34. Florio, can we add a “Vick/Poindexter Watch” alert on the front page so that those of us that are tired of reading about this can have a warning before we scroll down? This IS obviously personal for you, as if Vick or Poindexter hit on your wife or something. Continuing to harbor the hate for them isn’t healthy for you, man. Get over it….and I don’t even like Vick or Poindexter.

  35. Phil says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
    BarkingTuna,
    Florio is a lawyer! Big deal.
    Contract Law, which is his deal, is different from criminal law. Same is it different from Real Estate law, Personal Injury Law.
    Do you want a pediatrician performing a heart by-pass?
    It’s specialized, so just because someone has a law degree, doesn’t make them an expert on all things related to the law.
    Remove your lips from Florio’s ass and learn get educated.
    ——————
    Not quite sure why you’re replying to a comment posted in response to somebody else… how curious. Or the fact that I’m one of, what, a half dozen who pointed out that Florio’s an attorney? Are you both Phil and fj on this site? Or you just have a hardon for me?
    Regardless of the different areas of legal expertise, one doesn’t get through law school or admitted to the bar without at least a basic understanding the role of a prosecutor (apologies if your JD program completely excluded such a little niche like criminal law!) I never said he was an expert in all specialties, just pointed out he was a lawyer. A basic understanding of a prosecutor’s role kind of goes with the territory. Not that I don’t appreciate your preposterous attempt at a metaphor, though!

  36. Poindexter is obviously crooked. I’ve been wondering why no one had looked into this at all.
    Republicans are obviously bitter at the ass-whipping they just took in the polls. This needs no looking into, it can be found leaking into completely unrelated topics on message boards.

  37. Phil, To pass any state’s bar exam, a person has to have a grasp of several different areas of law. Moreover, a person has to have the ability to research and apply ANY type of law. State bars do not allow someone to say “Oh, I just want to test to be a contracts attorney.” Oh, and if you’re going to lecture people to get educated, allow me to introduce you to my friend the comma.
    Everyone who is bitching about how they are tired of reading the Vick articles…don’t read them! Skip ’em! Move on to something else.
    Finally, where the “they’re just dogs” crowd is concerned… Even if you don’t care for dogs, there is a larger issue. Do some research, consult some books, go to wikipedia for crying out loud… people who have enjoy torturing animals generally have some deeper and far more sinister (I’ve always wanted to say that) issues. The fact that Vick seemed to take an active role in torturing and killing animals, and took steps to keep that fact quiet, suggests he may have some bigger psychological problems. Or maybe he’s just a coward…

  38. Poindexter is the Surry County PROSECUTOR. He has a fiduciary to the people of the county to PROSECUTE Micheal Vick who clearly broke the law.
    This guy should be dragged on the carpet for his failure to fulfill his fiduciary responsibilities. He’s been trying to make this thing go away from the start and is obviously not acting in the professional capacity he has been entrusted with.
    Disbar the SOB!

  39. Justice was not done. Vick lost 120 million dollars and his career because some liberal hypcrite wanted to make a statement.
    The guy deserves a second chance. It not like another human being was harmed ( Pac man, Little, Ray lewis, etc.). He should have gotten probation just like everyone else that dogfights does.
    JUSTICE WAS NOT SERVED!!

  40. some people equate criticism with hate. it’s so sad when people cant tell the difference.
    dexy is crooked. and he apparently condones dog theft and killing, if black people do it.
    keep after them flowrow.

  41. How many of these hypocrites on this board pay people to cruelly slaughter cows and pigs for their bacon cheese burgers?

  42. I think what the prosecutor is referring to is the cost of the trial. There would still be the argument of being charged for the same crime twice. I am sure there would be a long trial to prepare for. Even though I despise the crime, I think it resolved the issue appropriately.

  43. Let Him prosecute Peyton manning and Brett farve for cruelly putting a bullet or arrow in wild pigs ( which are smarter than dogs)

  44. Its only dogs. I dont see a difference between what vick did with dogs and what people do when they go out and hunt animals.

  45. ——
    MVPnis says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    How many of these hypocrites on this board pay people to cruelly slaughter cows and pigs for their bacon cheese burgers?
    ——
    The more appropriate question is, how many morons like this can’t tell the difference between lunch and gambling & torture-for-sport?

  46. Someone said that others who are participating in the dog fight business are getting off. I agree that’s unfair. Let’s round those guys/girls up too. Vick needs company in jail. Where he should stay.
    As far as the prosecutor goes, if he is guilty of some unethical activity maybe Ken Starr should get involved. He was able to chase Clinton for how many years over a land deal and some ill-advised sex from a intern.
    Ban Vick for life and let’s move on. Everyone is tired of that guy.

  47. MVPenis:
    Oops, I mean MVPnis:
    Please join your moron friend southerboi727 as two of the most clueless people I’ve ever seen post on this site.
    Vick lost 120 million dollars and his career because some liberal hypcrite wanted to make a statement.
    Really? Which liberal hypcrite are you refering to? The Feds busted his @$$ because some two bit DA wouldn’t do his job. Vick deserved to lose so much more, and did. His freedom (for not a long enough period of time). Of course, it’s obvious your brain priveledges have been revoked for a much longer period of time.

  48. ——
    Southernboi727 says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
    Its only dogs. I dont see a difference between what vick did with dogs and what people do when they go out and hunt animals.

  49. MVPnis says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    How many of these hypocrites on this board pay people to cruelly slaughter cows and pigs for their bacon cheese burgers?
    Wow, can’t believe I missed this post. This explains it all. You’re a extremist member of People Eating Tasty Animals, er PETA. Or, you just made a failed attempt at being funny. I vote the latter since you seem to be on southernboi727’s they’re just dogs bandwagon, and any PETA member would be having a cow.

  50. Add in the fact that Vick lied more times to Goodell than Clinton lied while in office. Feel sorry for Vick? Nope – feel sorry for his defenders = Yep.
    Vick is a sociopath. He couldn’t care less about anyone except himself.

  51. The Director says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    I think what the prosecutor is referring to is the cost of the trial. There would still be the argument of being charged for the same crime twice. I am sure there would be a long trial to prepare for. Even though I despise the crime, I think it resolved the issue appropriately.
    Can’t believe I missed this one, either. Boy, the morons are out in full force, tonight. Double Jeopardy doesn’t apply here, moron, because Vick was never convicted of killing dogs. He was convicted of conspiracy to commit other crimes. Wow!

  52. Keep it up, Florio! It is obvious to any objective observer that Poindexter is either completely incompetent or has his own agenda that does not mesh with his job (paid by the taxpayers). Of course as the federal government has shown us recently, it is perfectly fine to act in a negligently criminal manner (financial companies) and not only expect no consequences but actually expect the full support of the government. Where has the voice of the people been relegated to? Do we not matter anymore if we do not have corporate lobbyists?

  53. Florio, am not real sure what you are so upset/suprised about here with
    all this. You have been following this case VERY closely since its
    inception. Whether people want to hear this or not, the following
    factors have GOT to be taken into account here, like them or not.
    Somebody has to say it.
    1. In Poindexter’s jurisdiction, Vick is considered a “local boy”.
    (Don’t underestimate this factor).
    2. They’re both black. (Don’t underestimate this factor either).
    3. As one athlete who commented about this fiasco awhile back said:
    “What’s the big deal here ?…its just dogs”.
    And in this area of the country….that is a popular opinion on this
    behavior/hobby/practice.
    In closing, although I may not agree with Vick’s behavior and choice
    of hobby and what he chooses to gamble on, not to mention his
    treatment of defenseless animals, can we all agree that at THIS point
    he has been persecuted/prosecuted/vilified to the full extent of the
    laws in place and those who are responsible to enforce them ?
    He is paying his debt for his crimes and once he is finished, he should
    be allowed to continue pursuing his professional football career, just
    as any other citizen in this country would be allowed to pursue their
    lawful interests.

  54. There are absolutely no parallels between hunting and dog fighting as there are none between slaughtering a cow for food and putting a dog in a ring.
    What Vick did would be the equivalent of me going out and slowly beating a deer to death with a stick then leaving the corpse there to rot. Killing an animal for food is a lot different than killing an animal for shits and giggles. And the way they killed some of these dogs is enough to justify the miserable life Vick will live for his rest of days.
    Now for the ignorant retards who think that hunting and dog fighting are similar… well I’m just baffled that you know how to use a computer. Are they teaching that now in those GED classes?

  55. can we all agree that at THIS point
    he has been persecuted/prosecuted/vilified to the full extent of the
    laws in place and those who are responsible to enforce them ?
    No, we cannot ALL agree to this point, because it is WRONG! He was prosecuted to the fullest extent of FEDERAL law, but not to the laws of the State of Virginia because some inept, possibly corrupt DA bungled it. Once again, double jeopardy DOES NOT APPLY because he was NEVER convicted of killing dogs. The Feds lobbed Poindexter a softball, a he whiffed horribly, and needs to be held accountable. What is wrong with you people?

  56. This is where all the “Poindexter is inept” people miss the boat on all this.
    Poindexter is not inept. He is doing and might I add ACCOMPLISHING
    exactly what he set out to do! He got Mike Vick a suspended sentence
    in the State of Virginia…don’t you see ? THIS WAS HIS PLAN ALL ALONG!
    Last thing I am gonna say on all this ? There is a difference between being
    inept……..and being corrupt.

  57. Fact of the matter is that Vick is doing time for running an illegal gambling ring across state lines. This man will not to a day of hard time for murdering dogs. Poindexter fails to file charges on the man since he felt that he had been through too much? Its not Poindexter’s job to say hes been through to much, its to uphold the law. This man needs to be investigated and put on the hotseat. No question he was on Vick’s payroll. It’s ashame, if the feds don’t get involved, Vick is suiting up for the Falcons this weekend. This corrupt d.a. needs to go down.

  58. myopinionisrighterthanyours says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    Can’t believe I missed this one, either. Boy, the morons are out in full force, tonight. Double Jeopardy doesn’t apply here, moron, because Vick was never convicted of killing dogs. He was convicted of conspiracy to commit other crimes. Wow!
    You are assuming that Vick was going to just take whatever they were going to give him. You obviously are extremely incompetent of litigation issues. Go back to cooking your hamburgers.

  59. “In this case, complete justice was not done.”
    I would love to have an intelligent conversation on this quote. Dog lovers and Mr. Florio, please forgive me for completely missing the point on this one. But, this is complete overkill and a represents a total loss of perspective. I’m sure that I am risking ridicule and many people calling me names. However, please help me understand, what should the punishment be for Mike Vick? It seems that, for many, the $1M fine and 23 month prison sentence is not enough.
    I’m not suggesting that there are any simple or perfect answers in this case. I just want to better understand what is it about the killing of dogs that so angers people that over a year after Vick went to jail, that it still causes such intense emotional reactions from people that still want to see Vick suffer.
    It’s hard to do this in quick response form, but from my perspective to equate Michael Vick with the personification of evil is going way overboard. Did Michael Vick break the law? Absolutely, no argument from me. Do I think he was punished too severely? Absolutely again!
    Seems like Michael Vick is the most hated man in this country next to OJ Simpson. To each his own, but I choose to reserve my anger and pursuit of justice toward other players who put my life and fellow citizens at risk. Players who keep war arsenals in their house, abuse their girlfriends/wives, walk around with illegal weapons and drive drunk should receive 100 times the vitriol that Michael Vick gets. And yet, they don’t go to jail or do less time, don’t have people protesting outside their stadium or have Commissioner Goodell pondering whether they should be allowed to play in the NFL at all.
    I understand that many will view it as a necessity that we use our resources to go investigate every doggycide that takes place in this country. However, as I mentioned at the top of this string, it is about perspective – using the term “justice” to describe animal killings is a very liberal usage, to say the least. I’m not saying don’t punish Vick, I’m just saying he should not be punished more than others who have done far worse.
    I would love to have a real discourse on this issue, perhaps PFT will host a live chat when Vick is released on this topic. But, I’ll end this string by saying that I would gladly sacrifice a million dogs to prevent harm or potential harm to my fellow man. I have seen too many victims of domestic violence, shootings and drunk driving to suggest that Michael Vick should be the first player kicked out of the league, when there are so many more appealing candidates. Therefore, if you are going to let them play, it seems completely unfair to single out Vick.
    For those who would push the gambling aspect of his incarceration and the impact on the league, I would love to have a discussion on that also. It is intellectually irresponsible to suggest that Vick’s gambling on dogfighting could lead to him throwing games (which is the intent of the NFL rule). And, if you wish to debate the illegal gambling aspect – then prepare to punish every player who plays poker on team flights, plays fantasy football or has a bounty pool.
    Thanks for your time, I raised many points. Please try not to insult me if you disagree, but provide a rational response. Perhaps a million dogs lives are worth more than one human’s life to you. Just help me understand why.

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