WHAT NEXT FOR MANGINI?

So with Jets coach Eric Mangini out of a job, the question becomes who if anyone will give him another shot?
The word on the street in the wake of the Spygate fiasco of 2007 was that few if any NFL teams would ever trust Mangini will family secrets given the perception/reality that Mangini blew the whistle on Patriots tactics from which Mangini’s career benefited — and about which he remained silent during his time in New England.
But, as we’ve seen many times, 31 teams can say no; only one team has to say yes.
An NFL head-coaching position in 2009 is unlikely, unless Raiders owner Al Davis becomes intrigued by the possibility of hiring an objectively talented guy whom no one else wants.
Possibly, Mangini could land somewhere as a defensive coordinator.  In Houston, for example, coach Gary Kubiak reportedly will be dumping his entire defensive coaching staff.  If Mangini is regarded as a guy who never would be trusted with the title of head coach by any other NFL team, then Kubiak wouldn’t have to worry about Mangini having designs on obtaining an in-house promotion in Houston if/when Kubiak is fired.
Regardless, Mangini’s ultimately employability will hinge on his ability to explain his role in blowing the whistle on the Patriots.  There’s a theory in some circles that Mangini merely mentioned the practice of videotaping defensive coaching signals to G.M. Mike Tannenbaum, and that Tannenbaum pressed the issue.  If Mangini can get someone to believe that (or a similar excuse), then Mangini likely will continue to find work in the NFL.

51 responses to “WHAT NEXT FOR MANGINI?

  1. Aside from ‘honor among thieves’, can someone explain why Mangini is a horrible person for pointing out that someone was breaking the rules? It’s better to cheat than point out a cheater? That’s some backwards thinking.

  2. Ohhhhhhh, let the Patriot Hate/Jealousy begin in 3……….2……….1
    BTW – Farewell Fredo, I hope you find a job somwhere in the High School ranks.

  3. People in Cleveland have consistently asked for a guy with “head coaching experience” for the last decade. The obvious Catch 22 with that idea is there’s a reason those with coaching experience are no longer employed. It’ll be interesting to see whether or not the Browns take a look at Mangini.

  4. A move to Houston is extremely unlikely. Houston has built (or tried to build) their defense around typical 4-3 personell and Mangini’s forte is the 3-4 (previously run in Houston with no success under Dom Capers). The defense in Houston is undersized but fast. Marinelli would be a far better fit than Mangini or even the Tampa D-Line coach and former Bronco DCOordinator, Larry Coyer.
    Running a 3-4 would be stupid considering the considerable talent the Texans already have in DE Mario Williams, LB DeMeco Ryans and DT Amobi Okoye. None of these 3 guys would be good fits in a 3-4.

  5. Tannenbaum only has one more thing to do if he wants to save face here. Cut Favre, before he even has a chance to talk about his phantom injuries, which have always plagued him. He’s not worth half of what they’re paying him, so cut him and move on.

  6. Considering Mangini, Weis, and Crennel have all been abject failures as head coaches, why would anybody give a Belichick assistant another chance even if they aren’t a weasel like Mangenius.
    Especially when Belichick showed he is gold by leading a team of second and third stringers to 11-5 this season.

  7. Re: “Gary Kubiak reportedly will be dumping his entire defensive coaching staff.”
    Reportedly? The entire staff? According to whom?
    If they fire Richard Smith, which they should, and not give the job to Frank Bush then Bush will likely leave too. Not sure why Jethro Franklin, Johnny Holland or Ray Rhodes need to go anywhere. They are decent position coaches working within the overall construct of Smith’s system – whatever it is. Jon Hoke needs to teach his DBs to turn around once in a while. They might actually get an int or two.

  8. BradyGazelle says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 9:54 am
    “Considering Mangini, Weis, and Crennel have all been abject failures as head coaches, why would anybody give a Belichick assistant another chance even if they aren’t a weasel like Mangenius.
    Especially when Belichick showed he is gold by leading a team of second and third stringers to 11-5 this season.”
    ========
    I don’t know if this makes Belichick look good or bad. I think it can be looked at both ways.

  9. “Objectively talented?” ROFLMAO! Stop the ball washing Florio. I’m sure your sad you lost one of your moles but the boy has accomplished NOTHING in his career except handing a Division rival the QB they desperately needed to contend for, and win, the Division without getting anything in return for it. He just handed Pennington to them. What a fool.

  10. S a i n t s Saints Saints Saints Gary Gibbs needs to be fired this week he is about as bad as Rod Marinelli Son in Law.

  11. I keep hearing the “release Favre” line by NYJ fans, but who do the Jets have that’s better? Kellen Clemens? Keep dreaming about Matt Cassel, the Jets will never, ever get him, the Pats and the Evil Genius will absolutely make sure of that.

  12. I thought Tannenbaum was the one who traded for Favre? Isn’t he the one responsible for the talent on the team? Looks and sounds like Tannenbaum is getting a pass and everyone is blaming it on Mangini.
    From what I hear and see it has become a game to pick on the Pats because how much reaction is generated from their fan base.

  13. @BradyGazelle – I agree to a certain extent. Mangini, Weis, and Crennel have all been failures, but there rarely is enough emphasis put on the GM position. What about Tennebaum? What about Savage(fired)? Pioli is just as much part of the formula as BB or Josh McDaniels or anyone else, but I suppose it all comes down to whos standing on the sidelines every single week. BB also hit on a hall of fame quarterback in the 6th round… that’ll also help your odds of staying employed. Take your pick.

  14. Nideak,
    1. He benefited from the taping(i.e. was able to get his first head coaching position as a result of the taping of signals).
    2. There is evidence that he used them himself
    3. Once he left the organization, he ratted them out.
    That is the problem. He is a cheater, benefited from it – and then turned into a rat.
    He was an embarassment as a coach, and will not be a head coach (in the NFL) anytime soon.

  15. “Nideak says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 9:46 am
    Aside from ‘honor among thieves’, can someone explain why Mangini is a horrible person for pointing out that someone was breaking the rules? It’s better to cheat than point out a cheater? That’s some backwards thinking.”
    I don’t necessarily think it was wrong to point it out… it was, however, very dumb. He must’ve known he would’ve implicated himself, otherwise he’s a complete and utter moron.

  16. I’m a Patriots’ fan and even I don’t get this “he’s a rat we won’t hire him” stuff. I thought most of the league hated Belichick and liked seeing him get a comeuppance. And I bet most of them would have done the same thing in Mangini’s shoes. I think he’ll get another job and do well. In fact, as a Patriots fan, I’m glad they fired him — I think he’s done pretty well and I don’t know who they will hire that will do better. Hopefully this portends years more of mediocrity.

  17. I am a little bit surprised that some of the nut bag conspiracy theorists havent come out in force yet. I mean, obviously, this was some master plan by the evil Bill Belichick, to allow Mangini to infiltrate the Jets, pretend to be trying to win, ruin the franchise, and then get fired and return to NE, right?
    Oh, this is reality, ok, never mind.

  18. Nideak says:
    “Aside from ‘honor among thieves’, can someone explain why Mangini is a horrible person for pointing out that someone was breaking the rules?”
    Because he didn’t utter a word while it was happening when he was with the Pats. He then used the success that the Pats achieved by cheating to land himself a job with the Pats divison rivals.

  19. Yeah, if Belichick can coach a team of 3rd stringers to 11-5 I doubt he did the taping for CHEETING. You retards.

  20. I love how all the Cheatriots fans call him “rat” and act like he’s some prison snitch or something…………as if the honorable thing to do would’ve been to keep quiet and allow the Cheatriots to continue cheating. Only in the sad, twisted, bizarro mind of a Cheats fan. Still blaming everybody else but the ones actually guilty of anything……their own team.

  21. “the success the Pats achieved by cheating”
    Did you miss the last two years, 16-0 season and 11-5 with second stringers and guys off the street?
    Mangini will be back as a coordinator somewhere, if he’s lucky he’ll get another look as a head coach in two or three years.

  22. CaptainFantasDick, still smarting over the Pats “stealing” your 3 SB wins this century? Ha ha. Still drives you crazy doesn’t it? Still losing sleep over it? You better worry about your team this year. Your QB is already dumb as a bag of doorknobs, and getting those last 3 remaining brain cells of his knocked silly yesterday doesn’t bode well for Shittsburgh.

  23. “CaptainFantasDick, still smarting over the Pats “stealing” your 3 SB wins this century? Ha ha. Still drives you crazy doesn’t it? Still losing sleep over it? You better worry about your team this year. Your QB is already dumb as a bag of doorknobs, and getting those last 3 remaining brain cells of his knocked silly yesterday doesn’t bode well for Shittsburgh.”
    ——————————————————————
    Still running from accountability? And for the record, i’ve never once stated they we had anything “stolen” from us. However, it is a documented FACT that your team cheated for 6+ years, including in the playoffs. And what you will never be able to hide from (aside from the documented proven cheating for over half a decade) is that your “genius” coach would never have bothered for so long if he saw no benefit. Let’s see you try and argue around that one.

  24. Mangini’s wife could always work at some street corner in FOXBORO since I know a lot patriots would love to have some ONE ON ONE ACTION WITH THAT BITCH & LATER CAN BASH MANGINI’S BRAINS IN WITH A BASEBALL BAT!

  25. Alpheratz says:
    “Did you miss the last two years, 16-0 season and 11-5 with second stringers and guys off the street?”
    One of the most heavily favored teams in Super Bowl history lost and this year no post season. Nope. Didn’t miss a thing.

  26. “16-0 and 11-5”?
    I love how Cheatriots fans conveniently forget that there was no Randy Moss or Wes Welker prior to 2007. And I love how they neglect to mention that they played the biggest cupcake schedule in the league in 2008.
    Oh, and I think Shuxion needs to re-examine his math with regard to %-ages in Steelers post season success. They’ve lost AFC Championship games, but in order to get there you need to win games. We’ve won in the playoffs far more often than we’ve lost.
    Man, why is it so easy pimpsmacking Cheatriots fans around? I guess it’s the total lack of situational awareness or understanding of the Big Picture. Their arguments are made in snippets and soundbites.

  27. I think we should have a new name the “scandal” known as Spygate.
    “Jetsgate” involved a former ball boy who repayed his coach for helping him up the ranks to a head coach job by stabbing him in the back for something that has been going on for 50 years – and something that Goodel allows to continue today (as long as videotaping of signals is done from the stands).
    After Jetsgate, Mangini followed a 4-12 season (wasting their 1st round draft pick) with a $140 million spending spree to secure 3rd place in the AFC East, helping the Dolphins make the playoffs by giving them their starting QB for no compensation.
    MangIdiot is left without a job, and questionable prospects as a proven snitch – whereas Belichick followed a 16-0 season with a 11-5 season using 2nd and 3rd stringers to prove his status as coaching genius.
    Yeah – Jetsgate sure backfired for the NY Jets organization.

  28. CaptainFantasDick, you are a whiner. A crybaby. Your team loses just about ALL the big games, but it always someone else’s fault, or you got “cheated” or there is some excuse that you make up in your convenient little fantasy world. The BIG picture is that the Pats have made it a habit of smacking Shittsburgh around in playoff games by simply being a better, more talented team.
    2001: AFC Championship: New England 24, Pittburgh 17
    2005: AFC Championship: NewEngland 41, Pittsburgh 27
    Remember those? Nightmares!

  29. “And what you will never be able to hide from (aside from the documented proven cheating for over half a decade) is that your “genius” coach would never have bothered for so long if he saw no benefit. Let’s see you try and argue around that one.”
    Um, of course he thought there was a benefit. That’s why players and teams do things like tamper, steal signals, circumvent the salary cap, use performance enhansing drugs, cut block, manipulate the playing surface, practice players on IR, etc. Why go through the effort if there’s no benefit?

  30. “However, it is a documented FACT that your team cheated for 6+ years, including in the playoffs. And what you will never be able to hide from (aside from the documented proven cheating for over half a decade) is that your “genius” coach would never have bothered for so long if he saw no benefit. Let’s see you try and argue around that one.”
    actually dumba**…it’s not a documented fact. The only documented fact is that the Patriots were fined for taping from a unapproved position on the field for ONE HALF OF ONE GAME, not 6 years, not one season, ONE HALF OF ONE game. You seem to have the problem with accountability. Yes we waxed your sorry Steelers without cheating and no little spin on what the league fined the Pats for will change that. They did that without Welker and Moss. As for your cupcake schedule..how many wins have you losers racked up pounding those Cleveland and Bengal powerhouses 4 games each year? Debacled.

  31. In America, it is “Innocent until proven guilty”, right? Everyone likes to talk about how the Pats cheated, but no one can explain what the advantage was? What did they gain? Etc……. If you cant prove that argument, you cant claim they “cheated”.
    To break it down a little more. Yes, the Pats broke the rules!!!!!! Yes, they video taped signals. Ok, how did they take those tapes, and gain an advantage? If you cant answer that question, you are accusing them of something, but then never following through with your accusation. You are no better than the dooooosh that claimed she was assaulted by the Duke Lacrosse team.
    Unless the guy who was videotaping the signals, was running back and forth, showing the signals, you whiners have no case. We know that the dude was filming from the side line. We also know, for a fact, that he remained in his spot, on the sidelines, the whole time. He didnt film the signals, and then run over to the coaches, and play it back for them over and over and over, so they could break the code, and send in the correct play to beat that defense, then run back to his spot, to film the signals of the next play (regardless of the fact that the play clock is too short for that to be an affective method). Since we know that didnt happen, what are you accusing them of?
    We also know that the Pats got caught “taping” signals, not “broadcasting” signals up to the coaches booth. So that the coaches could watch it over and over, and break the “code” during the games.
    I just dont know what it is that you are accusing them of doing. Dont accuse them of cheating, unless you can specifically say how/what they did. Taping signals was a violation of rules, no question, but it wasnt “cheating” any more than a team violating the salary cap rules, or tampering with another teams players/coaches/front office personnel is cheating.
    I am a Pats fan, and I am not proud to say that the Pats got “busted” for breaking some rules, but I just havent heard a decent explanation from anyone, as to how this “scandal” was the worst violation ever in the history of sports. People that dont like the Pats, use this one thing, over and over. If you cant theorize how they “cheated”, dont call them cheaters. It is pretty simple.

  32. sim448 says:
    December 29th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
    SHUXION, HE SPELT IT WRONG ON PURPOSE YOU STUPID ASSHOLE
    _______________________
    Spelt???????? Emmitt Smiff thinks that was a stoopid comment

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!