THURSDAY GOES, AND PIOLI REMAINS A CLEVELAND CANDIDATE

One of the more bizarre developments of New Year’s Day arose in connection with the ongoing courtship of Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli by the Cleveland Browns.
The Boston Herald trumpeted that the Browns had given Pioli a deadline of Thursday.
The Cleveland Plain Dealer responded by reporting that no such deadline applies.
So it’s now Friday, and Pioli has yet to accept the job.  And the Browns have yet to pull the plug on the discussions.
So the Herald was wrong.  And, amazingly, the Friday item from the authors of Thursday’s piece, Ron Borges and Karen Guregian, fails to acknowledge the fact that the Thursday story was flat-out incorrect.
Instead, they speculate that the postponement of Falcons president Rich McKay’s interview is a “telling sign” that Pioli and the Browns are “continuing to iron out differences and forge a union.”
Um, no.  The reality (as we’ve pointed out twice now) is that McKay can’t interview with the Browns until the Falcons’ season ends, since McKay is a high-level employee of the Falcons.
Why did the Herald famously retract its February 2008 report of Patriots spying at Super Bowl XXXVI but then ignore its more recent error?  Well, the last time around, they faced real and substantial legal liability.  This time, they only face embarrassment — if, of course, anyone realizes that the Thursday report was so grossly wrong.
So that’s the lesson, kids.  Only admit you were wrong when necessary to do so in order to avoid being sued.  In every other instance, shut up and hope no one notices.
Meanwhile, the folks who pound the keys at ESPN.com continue to perpetuate the notion that the Browns have given deadline, via this headline:  “Report:  Browns want Pioli decision soon.” 
And yet there’s no reason to disregard the Plain Dealer report that the Browns have not imposed any deadline, whether it be Thursday, Friday, February 1, or the vague notion of “soon.”
Meanwhile, there’s growing speculation in league circles that misinformation regarding Pioli’s status and his supposed demands is coming either from Browns employees who fear losing their jobs — or from Patriots executives who fear losing Pioli.

20 responses to “THURSDAY GOES, AND PIOLI REMAINS A CLEVELAND CANDIDATE

  1. Since when has Ron Borges been a reputable source anyway? The guy is an asshat and shouldn’t even be writing for a living anymore.

  2. The Herald has no credibility in the New England market anymore. No Pats fan I know reads it any more or believes anything they write. Herald has become the anal passage of Boston press.
    As to not admitting their errors very few of the press ever do so, and then only if it is a glaring error they are openly caught on. That’s the sad state of this country today, almost no one accepts any responsibility for screwing up. You are one of the few sites that will note your own mistakes.

  3. Every morning, I can’t wait to wake up, log onto PFT, and find out where a bunch of mostly fat, mostly white, mostly bespectacled executives are going. How exciting! I hope you update us on their offices, and if they get to keep their red staplers.

  4. The Herald hired a guy fired for plagiarism to help rebuild their sports reporting credibility. What else do you need to know about the state of affairs at the Herald?

  5. The irony is in the fact that you (Florio) post some whoppers that never pan out. I don’t see a difference between the rumors you post as “grumblings” or “whispers” that are totally MADE UP and the speculating those journalists do.
    I mean, weather forecasters get the weather wrong and THEY don’t acknowledge those errors. WHO CARES who gets it first. Who cares they were wrong. You look smarmy when you complain about stuff like that.

  6. The herald is the National Enquirer of the the Boston media.
    I mean they hired a plagiarist in Borges and continue to employ a sloth who, “made a devastating leap of logic.”
    They’re a JOKE!

  7. Maybe I’m not getting this, but isn’t it possible that there was a deadline in place and that it was a bluff to urge a decision out of Pioli? Seems like were assuming that since hes still a candidate that there must have been no deadline but couldn’t it have been rescinded? Or am I way off the mark here?

  8. Ron Borges has never bothered too much with journalistic integrity. His personal web site became a space wherein he indulged his personal vendetta against Belichick last year. It served as a forum for he and a self-described electronics and communications expert to discuss, in true Cold War spy novel fashion, the extent and intricacies of the Patriots’ spying program, quite absurd, really.
    Guregian is a decent sports reporter. Too bad she works for the Herald. Mike Reiss and his blog are the best source for Pats news.

  9. milehiclown says:
    January 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
    The irony is in the fact that you (Florio) post some whoppers that never pan out. I don’t see a difference between the rumors you post as “grumblings” or “whispers” that are totally MADE UP and the speculating those journalists do.
    I mean, weather forecasters get the weather wrong and THEY don’t acknowledge those errors. WHO CARES who gets it first. Who cares they were wrong. You look smarmy when you complain about stuff like that.
    __________________________________________________________
    You seriously don’t get the “difference” between a lawyer running a fan based site and calling things RUMORs posted under the heading RUMOR MILL and a supposedly news based organization who is charged with reporting fact and asks consumers to pay for that info? Wow! Do you get the rest of your important info from Weekly World News or The Enquirer? One of my favorite parts of this site is the fact that you can get rumors, conjecture, opinion, and the occasional fact on football AND sportsmedia. I’m a little scared for you-would you pull over and submit to someone who looked like a cop, acted like a cop, and talked like a cop because hey, what’s the difference anyway?

  10. i’m sorry to say that i actually work at a newspaper. i can honestly say that the industry as a whole pretty much deserves the implosion it’s getting. reporters can be so arrogant and smug it’s kind of funny. and then they wonder why people have started tuning them out … lol.

  11. What a story!
    – “bizarre developments”
    – “there’s growing speculation in league circles”
    – “real and substantial legal liability”
    – “flat-out incorrect”
    – “face embarrassment”
    – “only admit you were wrong when necessary to do so in order to avoid being sued”
    – “spying”
    – “retract”
    – “fear”
    – “legal liability”
    – “shut up and hope no one notices”
    Bigger-than-life heroes, pretty girls, exotic places, strange and mysterious villains! Fantastic, escapist fiction for the general entertainment of mass football audiences. Another day at the “PF Tattler”. Quite refreshing.

  12. @Ralphie: You are reading a RUMOR MILL. if you don’t want GOSSIP and RUMORS, don’t read a RUMOR MILL.

  13. alexy, RELAX, and stop taking postings SO SERIOUSLY.
    It’s called SARCASM. It is often associated with the use of IRONY. The use of irony introduces an element of HUMOR which may make the criticism seem more polite and less aggressive but understanding the subtlety of this usage requires second-order interpretation of the POSTERS INTENTIONS. This sophisticated LACK OF UNDERSTANDING is ABSENT in people with BRAIN DAMAGE and DEMENTIA.
    I LOVE the RUMOR MILL. I’LL GO SLOWER NEXT TIME. Cheers.

  14. I’m still reading the rumors of Mangini all over the internet…and I understand Alexy that this is a Rumor Mill, but im about to kill it! If Spioli is hired Mangini will NOT be a candidate. I know in the past there was a connection between the two…but have we all forgotten about SpyGate??? Spioli is the likely future GM of the Browns, although don’t be completely surprised if Spiolo does not take the job! If Spioli is hired I am doubting Shanahan will be an option. Spioli will most likely hire McDonald as the next HC. Now…bare with me, I’m hearing alot of bickering about Learner talking to possible Head Coaching candidates before hiring a GM…for once Randy Learner is making a smart mood. Wouldn’t you hate to watch a very high qualified Head Coach go to New York or Detroit because they beat us to the punch while we were waiting around on Pioli??? Especially if Pioli doesn’t take the job, nothing is in stone. I am not completely for GM’s hiring the head coach…there are many high qualified coaches (shanahan) who may be overlooked due to a GM hiring a HC who he had personal connections to (Shanahan, Spioli, McDonald) Now I’m doubting that a Assistant or even college coach will not be successful in Cleveland, but i would feel much better with an established head coach. It is not fare to the fans to pass up qualified “winning” coaches because the GM wants to give his right hand mand a shot in the pros!!!! Come on Randy, Don’t allow yourself to be known as the next Carmen Policy.
    , A fan

  15. The staffs at the Boston Globe and WEEI radio must be pissing their pants in laughter over this; first the Herald has a journalistic mook make up a story out of whole cloth, and when it blows their pathetic reputation to shreds, they go out and hire the one writer with the worst bias against the Patriots – one who was legitimately FIRED over plagiarizing a story! – to try and teach the young Grasshopper Tomase how a “respectable” sports desk works.
    So they end up totally botching the Cleveland – Pioli story!
    What a freakin’ joke that rag has become.

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