More Motivation For Jason Campbell

As if his own team’s dalliance with former Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler wasn’t enough to light a fire under the fanny of Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, Peter King of SI.com has another twist that might give Campbell extra fuel for the coming conflagration.
Broncos coach Josh McDaniels studied the film, and decided that he preferred Kyle Orton to Campbell.
McDaniels thinks he can win with Orton,” King writes.
Um, in what league?  AFL2.5?
Then again, we don’t doubt McDaniels’ confidence.  His former team won with a sixth-rounder (Tom Brady) and a seventh-rounder (Matt Cassel).  So why not give it a whirl with Orton, who was a third fourth-rounder?
Meanwhile, the Broncos can pick a late-round guy and quietly develop him into the next Brady or Cassel.
If, that is, McDaniels took photos of the Belichick/Pioli 2009 draft board.

62 responses to “More Motivation For Jason Campbell

  1. Shanny was sub-.500 with Cutler. I have no doubt McDaniels will at least match that with Orton.

  2. Campbell has to break from the Grossman/Boller mold of a guy who has a big arm but little skill to go with it.
    Orton is the opposite, a smart QB that lacks any touch on a ball sailing further than 10 yards. McDaniels simply acknowledged he’d rather have the next coming of Chad Pennington than the next big armed failure on his team.

  3. “Um, in what league? AFL2.5?”
    Their records as starters…
    Jay Cutler—— 17-20
    Jason Campbell- 16-20
    Kyle Orton—— 21-12
    Orton has proved that he can win in the NFL, Florio. He’s not flashy, like Cutler, but he gets the job done, unlike Cutler.

  4. “Meanwhile, the Broncos can pick a late-round guy and quietly develop him into the next Brady or Cassel.”
    Rhett Bomar. Book it.

  5. Given the choice…, I’d probably take Kyle Orton too. He’s performed well, without great talent. I think once he’s in the drivers seat of a more talented Offense.., you’ll see his number improve greatly…, just as we’ll all see Mr. Cutler’s fall dramatically.
    Jason Campbell is one year away from becoming a career back-up.

  6. Watch out Florio, this is more evidence of Campbell being a professional, and Cutler being a douche, lol. The Broncos fans, errr, Bears fans are going to think you dont like Cutler

  7. I think you’re really underestimating Orton. He’s not that bad, he has a decent arm and the right amount of swag that a qb needs with just the right amount of humility. I hope he does succeed in Denver, he’s has much more in terms of WR then he did in Chi, where his best wr was a DB/ST standout turned wr. We’ll see though, time will tell….

  8. “Broncos coach Josh McDaniels studied the film, and decided that he preferred Kyle Orton to Campbell.”
    Wow, that’s a serious slap to Campbell’s face.

  9. may I ask what exactly is wrong with Jason Cambell? Like why are the redskins so eager to get rid of a quarterback who had probably the best PAT-interception ratio last year(Next to Pennington). Didn’t he have like the fewest interceptions including like seven straight games without one? Cambell is solid.
    And why is Florio jumping all over Orton? The guy came in for the bears a few seasons ago and won like 11 games (of course the bears had a spectacular defense that year, but Orton Managed the games well and didn’t mess up) and for some reason they went to Rex Grossman in the playoffs and they get taken care of by the Panthers.
    I don’t know what Orton’s record exactly is but its better Than what most people think, and he improved a lot last season.
    Orton will have a better Season than Cutler, its just gonna happen.

  10. You put Joe Montana behond our O-line last year and he’d look like Ryan Leaf. Jason Campbell held his own under considering the circumstances. The first 8 games he was amazing and then the O-line fell apart. OT at #13 for the Skins.

  11. Why will this motivate Campbell?
    McDaniels only said he liked Orton more than Campbell, didn’t say he didn’t like Campbell.
    For example:
    I like “D”s more than “C”s.
    Doesn’t mean I don’t like “C”s.

  12. Enter Nate Davis, a day two steal. Very accurate and also studied under the same QB coach as Tom Brady.

  13. Peter king is a washed up latte sipping moron.He should leave S.I. and appply to be Brett Favre’s full time pool boy/ass kisser.

  14. I completely agree bradygothurt.
    Ilove the Chicago bears and as excited as I was to get cutler I was also than much depressed on losing a potentially great qb.
    Kyle is a great leader and very smart. Kyle is 21-12. I can go all day talking about how good Kyle will be. But I won’t. Bcause I’m at work.
    Now that Kyle is with a team that actually has a offensive coordinator and not a garbage college coach calling screens on 3rd and 9 he will have a great year. I wish him the best of luck and will continue to spread the word across the land of Kyle orton.

  15. Maybe he just think Campbell sucks. I like the guy, he seems like a high character guy, but his throws are kind of strange. Reminds me a little bit of how Byron Leftwich throws the ball, with that big wind-up.

  16. Florio, you read this wrong from the beginning.Much like Bledsoe was an immensely talented QB who was ill-suited to run the Pats offense, Cutler wasn’t the right guy for McDaniels’s offense. The Broncos got a steal in this trade. Orton’s better suited to this offense than not only Campbell but Cutler too. Throwing to those receivers Orton will look pretty good and will keep mistakes down. If they can get some sort of running game going with the committee of RB’s they signed and can use their flux of draft picks to improve their D, the Broncos will win the west.

  17. Go ahead Florio and join the other flip-floppers who all of a sudden turned on Cutler now that he’s in Chicago.
    “Oh he’s going to be great if he joins another team”
    “Wait he’s in Chicago…O nevermind.”
    Orton is too inconsistent. That win-loss record is tainted. His first season all he did was hand the ball off and throw 5 yard passes. The second year he started off strong then got hurt and cost the Bears the playoffs. That and the defense.
    But, I still say he’s going to do better in Denver because he has a better supporting cast and a offense that will allow him to throw the ball more.

  18. Campbell is a good quarterback and, with the right supporting cast, could be a star. But, as long as Snyderatto continues to ignore the O-line, Campbell will never flourish. The right side of the Redskins offensive line is an aging mess. If I were a D-coordinator going up against Campbell, I would overload blitz the right side like crazy.

  19. At least Orton has a winning record. And he did so with crappy receivers and not great protection. If he works hard on film and preparation with McDaniels he will get much better.

  20. “If, that is, McDaniels took photos of the Belichick/Pioli 2009 draft board.”
    Does that mean the Chiefs and Pats are sharing a draft board?

  21. orton did play well… but not great by any means….. the only reason the bears did as well as they did last season was forte…. and by the way orton doesnt have a deep ball…. good luck denver your gonna need it!!!!!

  22. Still waiting for another to provide any evidence that McDaniels has done anything worthy of individual credit or creativity.
    Taking over and continuing someone elses offence, players and playbook just isn’t that impressive to me.
    McDaniels didn’t have a say in the drafting of Brady or Cassel, so what makes him a “better than most of the NFL” judge of QB talent?
    Bill B and Scott P bought the groceries (thanks Tuna) and handed him the reciepe from what I have seen…
    How does he get so much credit for talent evalution? I don’t wanna beat a dead horse but fro all you stat monsters…
    Here are the stats again…
    Weis and ND failures
    Romeo and the Browns Failures
    Doug Heffernan I mean Mangini failures with Jets and taking it to the Browns now.

  23. orton has 30 career tds and 27 ints. he won all those games in 2005 because of a running game and defence. dont give me the better record garbage, or he is better because of his wins. if you state that argument then you would want vy playing in tennessee, because he “wins”. football is a team game, and a qb’s won -loss record is a direct representation. cutler has all the tools, orton and campbell do not. its unfortunate that bias gets in the way of acknowledgement when it comes to fans.

  24. I remember Trent Dilfer winning a few games and a Superbowl
    I remember Jeff Hostler doing the same…
    I would have wanted them more than Marino based on some peoples flawed, serving themselves logic.

  25. McDannyboy has earned the benefit of the doubt on this one. It is McD — not us idiot fans, Florio, or King — who has coached up Brady and Cassel and has run an offense that is a work of art. He’s the first guy in the NFL since Martz who can choose so-called losers, wave his magic wand, and have these guys playing at Pro-Bowl level. Warner, Bulger, Kitna, Cassel. My bet is Orton will be fine. And yes, Denver may draft a QB. McD also knows you don’t bank on a single QB each season. The Bears? They have shown no ability to develop QBs, their offensive strategy sucks, and Cutler is going to see his fancy stats nosedive this season.

  26. Jason Campbell was never going to be attractive to McDaniels because there is a perception that he is spoiled goods. Even in college he didn’t get two years in the same offence. He’s now been coached by so many different people with completely different philosophies that it will be very difficult for a new coach to feel that he’ll be able to shape him as a player.
    Orton-Campbell is like choosing between two women. One’s a little more homely and had only a couple of boyfriends. The other is a bit prettier but has been had by everyone, some of them were your mates, some of them were people you knew and don’t like. She’s probably picked up a few bad habits and maybe some other things besides. Which one would you take home to meet your parents.

  27. HarrisonHits says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 11:42 am
    At least Orton has a winning record. And he did so with crappy receivers and not great protection. If he works hard on film and preparation with McDaniels he will get much better.
    _____________________
    McDaniels is so far out of his league, it’s not even funny. So far he’s managed to blow up the successful part of the team trying to trade for this decade’s Scott Mitchell. At least he’ll have earned his firing in 3 years.

  28. “Broncos coach Josh McDaniels studied the film, and decided that he preferred Kyle Orton to Jason Campbell.”
    ROTFLOL
    Tells you everything you need to know about McNitwit.

  29. Kyle Orton is a more than capable QB. Perhaps he’s not flashy, but he is a winner.
    All I can say is that I think his numbers will go up this year, while Cutler’s will go down.
    Let’s face the facts … If you were an NFL QB, would you rather play in a Bears/Ron Turner offense or a Pats/Josh McDaniels offense?
    (And yes, I know McDaniels is the coach of the Broncos, but he led the Pats last year.)
    In Orton, I think McDaniels saw a guy who has the intangibles and is accurate on the shorter range passes. His comment was about liking Orton for his offense. It was not about saying Campbell sucked or anything else negative about Campbell per se.

  30. Cassel never started a game in college or the NFL before last season, and look how he was prepared, professional, efficient, and just florkin’ great. If McDannyboy studied tape, and if he like Orton, then I’m thinking i give a little more credibility to his opinion than to you guys on the couch out there. I watched Cutler quite a bit, and yes, he has a gun, but nothing else about him ever caught my interest. The gun will serve him well, but he just isn’t so quick above the neck, plus he has poo in his diapers.

  31. What’s with this insane focus on the win/loss record? Its not as if the QB is responsible for the record by himself.
    This logic would state that Orton was as good, if not better than Culter while he was in Chicago, because of the record, and should have went to the Pro Bowl instead.
    This logic also states that Rex Grossman is a fantastic QB because he went to the Super Bowl. Or that Carson Palmer sucks because the Bengals suck.
    See? Doesn’t work. Lets look at least look at individual stats and not team stats? TD/INT ratio, Pro Bowl invites, passing yards, sacks, you know, stats a QB can control maybe?

  32. There is no way to compare the starting records of the three. Campbell plays in what is arguably the most difficult conference playing the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles twice a year. Then comes Orton playing the Vikings, Packers twice (we won’t talk about the Lions) and Cutler gets to play the Chiefs, Raiders and Chargers twice. Cutler is just one win ahead of Campbell and behind Orton. Cutler is way overrated. Expect to see a great fall in his stats this year. Also looking a couple of years down the road many in the Bears front office may be looking for employment outside of football.

  33. stiller43 says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 11:05 am
    “Um, in what league? AFL2.5?”
    Their records as starters…
    Jay Cutler—— 17-20
    Jason Campbell- 16-20
    Kyle Orton—— 21-12
    Orton has proved that he can win in the NFL, Florio. He’s not flashy, like Cutler, but he gets the job done, unlike Cutler.
    ______________________________________________
    At least 12 of Orton’s “wins” were solely because of defense.
    Please! Enough with madness of reducing the ultimate team game down to one man’s win-loss record.

  34. Factoid of the Week That May Interest Only dashoe
    “(For those who don’t know, my wife and I (Peter King) moved to BOSTON a month ago, and we’re still settling in. Enjoying it a lot so far.)”

  35. Anyone wanna remind some people how Brian Billeck got the job in Baltimore all those years ago…
    Record settling year with Randy Moss, Chris Carter, Robert Smith and Randle Cunningham.
    And he brought that “work of art” offence to Baltimore.
    And b4 you say Superbowl, Ill say Ozzie Newsome

  36. “A few random quotes and replies:
    slutnuts says: “Cutler has all the tools, orton and campbell do not.” And now Cutler gets to prove how much he can do without great wide recievers and a good offensive line.
    mrmagoo says: ..”trying to trade for this decade’s Scott Mitchell.” Mitchell took the Lions to the playoffs in 1995 and 1997 (not too shabby) and he set single-season records for the Lions in touchdown passes (32) and passing yards (4338). He had talent to work with on that team and made good use of it.
    VaBthang4 says: “Tells you everything you need to know about McNitwit.” Given as little time as McDaniels has had on the job, maybe folks should wait a while to see what he really can do. Hopefully he will pay more attention to the defense than the previous coach.

  37. I have watched Jason Campbell for a long time now, McD was right to go with Orton, Cambell is slow can’t find an open receiver down field and has tunnel vision once the ball is snapped. Time after time he would complete a pass for eight yards but needed nine. Please Danny get some one else or go with Colt Brennen. Besides think of the money you would save just to cut him.

  38. jpyetman
    We see your motive. Bash anything that is New England based.2007 Did Romeo go 10-6. Yes. Very good for a Cleveland team. Better than when they went to the playoffs with Butch Davis. (9-7). Mangini did go to the post season with a 10-6 record. And Wies did go to a bowl game his first year there. The popular oppinion is to say Belichecks deciples stink. Al Grow, Nick Sabin, Pat Hill and the newest member Urbin Meyer will all disagree with you.

  39. Jason Campbell sucks. As an Eagles’ fan, I hope the Redskins keep him for another 5-7 years.

  40. ok lets see the stats stiller23 or whoever posted
    “Um, in what league? AFL2.5?”
    Their records as starters…
    Jay Cutler—— 17-20——————-bad defense that couldnt hold a team to under 21 points a game
    Jason Campbell- 16-20—–bad defense yet again
    Kyle Orton—— 21-12—great defense somehow they could win 7 to 3 or 14-7 great defense, orton sux no doubt, as a chicago bears fan i can honestly say orton is crap! he is lucky olsen and desmond clark are good cuz he wouldnt have done shit last year
    nfl ready player maybe, but good or even considered a ok qb but dont even compare to cutler

  41. QUOTE: DJSlyBri says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
    Jason Campbell sucks. As an Eagles’ fan, I hope the Redskins keep him for another 5-7 years.
    Why? I think Washington swept Philly last year. I’ll beat you to it, yeah they made the NFC Championship game again… and lost. If you think all of Campbell’s problems are his own, you’re naive. He doesn’t throw at the WR feet 1/2 as much as McNabb (nor sail their heads by 15 yards). Most of his problem come from getting sacked 38 times in 2008 ala the hole-filled OL.

  42. Peter King is a Douche and we all know it, he has a woody in his pants anytime he can bash the Redskins. He’s the main reason that Art Monk didn’t get into the hall of fame until last year. Peter King can eat my dog’s crap for all I care his opinion doesn’t mean anything. King hates anyone that isn’t named Farve.

  43. JustPlayFootball says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
    “A few random quotes and replies:
    mrmagoo says: ..”trying to trade for this decade’s Scott Mitchell.” Mitchell took the Lions to the playoffs in 1995 and 1997 (not too shabby) and he set single-season records for the Lions in touchdown passes (32) and passing yards (4338). He had talent to work with on that team and made good use of it.
    __________________________________________________________
    You forgot the part about losing the starting job to Charlie Batch in 3 years and continuing his career – unsuccessfully with the Ravens and Bengals. You don’t trade away a 25 year old franchise quaterback. Especially for a career backup (as in college and pro) when you have a highly ranked offense and your defense is absolutely putrid. I’m all for the counter-intuitive but there’s also lunacy.

  44. I still think the Broncos may go with Orton this year and NOT draft a QB in the first round. I think they may go defense, defense in the first round, and most of the rest of the draft and go with Orton this year. They have weapons on offense and maybe they can get by with Orton this year. If they do this they will still have a chance to get a QB next year in the first round.
    There is a pretty good chance that either their pick or the Bears pick will be in the top third of the first round and the other pick not far behind. That would give them the ammo to move up and get a QB in next years strong QB class. Look at the teams that one would figure to draft early next year. The Lions, Raiders, Browns, Chiefs, Packers, Saints (I hope they draft at 32, but realistically…..) and Texans. I don’t see any of them taking a QB in the first round in 2010 and they would probably all be willing to trade down.
    The Broncos need to get some defensive help this year and not hope they can get anywhere with a rookie QB now. They can groom a starter from the 2010 draft by letting Orton play two years and help that awful defense now.

  45. insane attention to winning record?
    hey, it’s about winning. not all the potential your favorite player has!
    and chauncey pullpecker was a loser even with moss. and a much worse loser without him.

  46. WorldChampionBears2008 says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
    Go ahead Florio and join the other flip-floppers who all of a sudden turned on Cutler now that he’s in Chicago.
    “Oh he’s going to be great if he joins another team”
    “Wait he’s in Chicago…O nevermind.”
    Orton is too inconsistent. That win-loss record is tainted. His first season all he did was hand the ball off and throw 5 yard passes. The second year he started off strong then got hurt and cost the Bears the playoffs. That and the defense.
    But, I still say he’s going to do better in Denver because he has a better supporting cast and a offense that will allow him to throw the ball more.
    All he did was hand the ball off and throw 5 yard passes??? Are you sure you’re talking about Kyle Orton or Jason Campbell?

  47. #
    # Super Florio says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
    QUOTE: DJSlyBri says:
    April 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
    Jason Campbell sucks. As an Eagles’ fan, I hope the Redskins keep him for another 5-7 years.
    Why? I think Washington swept Philly last year. I’ll beat you to it, yeah they made the NFC Championship game again… and lost. If you think all of Campbell’s problems are his own, you’re naive. He doesn’t throw at the WR feet 1/2 as much as McNabb (nor sail their heads by 15 yards). Most of his problem come from getting sacked 38 times in 2008 ala the hole-filled OL.
    Yeah only problem is he didn’t get sacked that many times his other 3 years and still sucked. Plus if you want to go that route, look at how many times Roethlisberger gets sacked.

  48. PETER KING is a joke:
    “Broncos once tried to trade John Elway to Washington, and Elway had to come back to the team knowing Dan Reeves wanted to deal him. They were never best friends, but Elway didn’t go on strike like Cutler did.”
    Uh, Elway got Dan Reeves fired from Denver because he realized he was never going to win a Super Bowl with Reeves. The team chose Elway over Reeves ultimately.
    Cutler probaby realized that McDaniels is an underqualified douche that’s only 7 years older than him and that he’ll never win anything with that guy as coach, so he made his displeasure known. The team chose to keep the coach this time.

  49. Peter King is such a Patriots homer. Who’s to say McDaniels is some offensive genius that transformed Cassel and Brady (as King implies)? How does his “wealth of football experience” at age 32 translate to his new job in Denver? He did a great job of managing this Cutler problem didn’t he? Belicheck IS the coach, GM, OC, and DC in NE. Where are his other proteges, Weis and Crennel? Apparently the “Peter Principal” caught up with them, and it will soon catch up to McDaniels too.

  50. Orton will be the starter for at least this year in Denver barring the slight possibility that one of the other no talent losers on that roster today beats him out for the job. Kyle Orton is a smart QB without much talent. He can be Trent Dilfer if you need him to be but not much more. Look for a Rhett Bomar or even Mike Teel pick from Denver on Day 2.

  51. When Florio makes comments like the, “Um, in what league? AFL2.5?,” it really makes me think that he has no TRUE opinions that are his own. If he knew anything about McDaniels and what he’s looking for, it’s a QB who can run the Bronco’s new style offense, making quick, intelligent decisions and as few-as-possible mistakes.
    I’m not a huge Orton fan, but he will flourish there under McDaniels.

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