Some Vikings Want Tarvaris, Not Favre

3708 .jpgAs NFL observers continue to wait for the seemingly inevitable announcement that quarterback Brett Favre will be donning a purple jersey and helmet in 2009, we’re hearing that some members of what would be his third team in three seasons aren’t thrilled with the idea that a new signal-caller will be getting the keys to a recently underachieving passing game.

And they don’t want Sage Rosenfels, either.

Per a league source, some Vikings believe that Tarvaris Jackson should be the starter, based on Jackson’s performance during offseason workouts.

Yes, Tarvaris Jackson.

Of course, Jackson also drew high praise last year for his work in the underwear practices.  Once the season began, Jackson played poorly — and he quickly was benched for Gus Frerotte.

Jackson returned after Frerotte suffered broken bones in his back, and Jackson did well down the stretch, finishing the season with a passer rating of 95.4. 

But the three-year pro was ineffective during a wild-card loss to the Eagles, and the trade for Rosenfels was regarded as a strong sign that Jackson would be on the bench.

Previously, there have been a few indications that some were hesistant to welcome Favre with open arms.  Defensive end Ray Edwards has said that Favre will have to drop the “prima donna act,” and linebacker Chad Greenway has questioned “where [Favre’s] loyalties lie.”

So Favre will have his work cut out for him if/when he joins the Vikings — both in the locker room and on the field.

That said, if/when Favre arrives, he’ll be the starter.  And coach Brad Childress wouldn’t be sniffing around the guy who smells like tractor if Jackson had stepped up last year in the postseason, when he had his chance to nail down the job for years to come.
 

45 responses to “Some Vikings Want Tarvaris, Not Favre

  1. It must be a slow day for news to report that “some vikings want TJoke”……I guess 2 is some but the huge majority of players know that TJoke isn’t the leader they need. In the brotherhood of nfl teams, no one wants to be on record as saying they don’t want a teammate but i assure you, the viking players know that TJoke doesn’t have what it takes.

  2. Apparently some members of the Vikings team are satisfied with being mediocre. to say they want T.J. to be their leader means they are content on underachieving.

  3. Yes, people like to complain about the guy, but Favre would be the best quarterback there, just in reading defenses alone. All the guy has to do is hand off the ball anyway, that should cut down on a lot of the Interceptions right there.

  4. i love my Vikes almost as much as my wife but if some players prefer T-Jack then they need to have a few cat-scans around winterpark.

  5. A lot of QBs look bad and are ineffective against the Eagles defense, especially young guys. Jackson’s 95.4 passer rating was no fluke; the guy was starting to get it. Jerking him around like they’ve done is bound to set him back and give his haters ammunition. Flirting with Favre this offseason may be the dumbest move Chilly has made yet, and that’s saying something.

  6. Even if Favre does go to Minny I think that Tarvaris can be involved a lot with the wildcat considering his speed and agility and the fact that they still have Sage and Booty in case something were to happen to Favre or Tjack.

  7. Florio,
    How many hits do you get on this Favre crap? You must get a lot, or you wouldn’t be making this stuff up all the time. Don’t you feel like a hack creating stories out of thin air? As I was writing this, I saw this shit on NBC Sports. My jaw dropped! I know you’re an idiot, but NBC Sports? Amazing! By the way, I’m a friend of Brett Favre’s, and he told me he wants to play with the Vikings except Ray Edwards and Chad Greenway! He questions their commitment to winning if they would rather have Tarvaris over him!

  8. What a GREAT day to talk about FREEDOM of opinion…Happy Independence Day to ALL!…with that being said …Just because We ARE entitled to our own opinion….Does NOT make it the RIGHT choice!….Favre WILL Dominate!…..And I hope the Packers come in a close 2nd!

  9. In fairness to Jackson, he began last season recovering from a knee injury suffered during the preseason. He played well until the injury and again after he had recovered and was the starter.

  10. Jackson definitely has huge support in the locker room. So does Favre I’m sure being a future hall-of-famer but some don’t want him at all and most don’t see him as essential.
    T-Jack showed tremendous improvement last season, especially after the benching. I know he played like crap against the Eagles D but if you look at Philly’s opponents from week 13 to the divisional round, all QB’s played like crap against them. ALL OF THEM. They were hot at the time.
    I would’ve loved to see a competition go down like planned because I know for a fact Jackson is ready to take this team on a deep playoff run.
    Where as I don’t care how good Favre starts out, he’ll suck the last 5 games LIKE HE HAS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS while the Packers or Bears will take the division crown.
    A lot of people think Jackson’s 4 TD game was a fluke game but if you take that game away and you take Favre’s game away against the same team, T-Jack STILL has a better TD/INT ratio.
    No QB’s Favre’s age has ever won the Super Bowl so Vikings fans can quit thinking it’s a lock right now. There’s reasons for that.
    Laugh now, Cry later. Unless your a fan of a Vikings rival, then laugh now…and laugh later.

  11. Ray Edwards also said that he would break Michael Strahan’s single season sack record last year. He ended up with 5.

  12. This is like picking between the worst foods in the world — like asking Vikings fans: do you like alfalfa sprouts, broccoli, or anchovies? They all suck. So to say that they “want” Tavaris over Favre & Rosenfels is not exactly a ringing endorsement.

  13. Favre is the better QB, but Tavaris has potential to be a better QB if he keeps playing, i’d rather they continue to build a team that can become a great team for multiple years rather than pull in Farve for one season and have to start over with the rookie QB we would have to draft in the first round next year.

  14. jlewx, you nailed it. that is also the reason why some teams, atlant with vick, and n’awlins with brooks constantly underachieved.
    cant criticize the black superman.
    now… do ya see what is going on in dc?
    some people cant take criticism at all. that is precisely because they deserve it very much and cant honestly and sincerely and professionally address it. they just chuck out the card!

  15. There is friendship and there is business. I think Charlie Batch is a great human being but I don’t want him starting over Ben.

  16. I think it’s laughable how many people have: a) labeled the Vikings a Super Bowl contender with the arrival of Favre, and b) come up with this ridiculous idea that Favre will suddenly be content handing the ball off to Adrian Peterson. Further, once Peterson is hurt, as he inevitably will be (again) what is #4 gonna do? He is gonna revert to the Favre of old, trying to force things where they can’t go with one more year on an already aging arm. If nothing else, the Vikings can get practice jersey sponsorships from Geritol and Hoveround.

  17. I personally have been a Vikings fan my entire life. I go to training camp every year. I have watched Jackson ever since he donned purple. My first impression was amazement at how mobile he was, Arm Strength galore. I thought that a couple of years in the system and working with the QB coach he definitely could be shaped into an NFL caliber QB. The one thing that to me he has not been able to do is read the Defense and trust the Receiver to run the right route. Jackson takes very few chances and throws the ball away to often in my opinion. Coach Childress preaches about throwing the ball away and living another down, But the thing that burns me is the number of plays that Jackson overlooks because he lacks the confidence to thread the needle. He may not turn the ball over much but also he is not making the plays that could break the game open either. He takes too much time reading the D and under pressure he tends to over throw the receiver or shows poor footwork (ask a Vikings fan why he is called pop tart Jackson”. Klewe is going to break every Vikings punting record, just by the sheer number of punts he has to do in a season. If he continues to learn he could be an Excellent QB someday. But I would rather have Favre this year…………………….

  18. Seriously?! O.K. Ray Edwards is T.Jacks bf, would say anything to help his bud..Chad, love ya but where do your loyalties lie? I would hope that they lie in winning football games…..Dear Santa, could we have one July without the ownership/stadium/quarterback b.s. so that we could actually just enjoy looking forward to football season! Sincerely, Vikings fans

  19. Well Tundra, if Peterson gets hurt we insert Chestor the molester. Chester would be a #1 runningback on many NFL teams!

  20. Screw Brad Childress for ever letting the situation get this bad. Could have had Kurt Warner or Jeff Garcia, but no…had to have Brad Johnson and Gus Frerotte. Could have drafted numerous other rookies, but no…had to trade up to draft Tarvaris Jackson in the second round, when everybody else in the world never figured him to be better than a fifth round talen (Tarvaris included). Now he’s so desperate to save his job, he’s willing to bet his career and maybe the near future of the Vikings by signing a player that’s about 80 some games past his prime. If this doesn’t work out, Childress’ name should never be heard in football talk again, right up there with Les Steckel.

  21. Good to see stories like this.
    It helps gets the public prepared for when this Favre to vikings thing doesn’t happen.
    Jackson is not the starter, Sage Rosenfels is the starter. Jackson is a funnier punchline.

  22. Hey empty13, can you say Doug Williams? Give the “Black Superman” Payton’s offensive line and give Payton some of these scrubs paid to protect BQb’s and watch the white cryptonite.
    You guys kill me with this race crap and your not even the minority. Isn’t that what the minority guy is suppose to say, but just wait for “Mexican Superman” Mark Sanchez. JETS, jets, jets, jets!!!!!

  23. Peyton manning makes his line look a lot better than it is. Very few qb’s would remain up right behind that line because they don’t read the defense like Manning does…..

  24. First off Tarvaris Jacksons 4 td game against the *Cardinals* was a fluke game. They had a horrible pass rush and secondary. He also had a td against the lions… Enough said, and 2 against a very poor Atlanta secondary. Unless he proves his worth against better teams he does not deserve the Job. And the wildcard game, T-joke threw that game away. He even said he saw Asante Samuel sitting on Sidney Rices route but he threw it anyway! Guy isn’t mentally capable of being a starting qb.
    P.S. I don’t want Brett Favre either.

  25. Brett Favre:
    ruining team chemistry and destroying seasons one NFL team at a time.

  26. yes who are you… apparently the vikes locker room brought race up first… and i wouldnt be surprised if it was at t-jackoff’s urging!
    doug williams was a super bowl winner with a complete team around him. just like doug rypien. neither qb was that important a cog to those skins machines.
    so cram it. i, mr. YT did NOT bring it up first. and it is not a topic you own. atty genl holder wants an honest discourse, here it is. he, among other high osamabama maladministration officeholders, isnt qualified for the job he has because he is an idiot. is he an idiot because he is black and pee cee? well, it looks that way to me.
    i do not believe in the speech codes that people like you are trying to impose.
    and based on what is happening in dee cee, osamabama sure would like to make the majority into a permanent silent minority.
    pound sand jackass. i pay my taxes and i have experience, knowhow and initiative. i have the right to judge and speak my mind. you dont have a brain to speak of, either.

  27. The Vikings who “want” Tarvaris don’t actually want him–they just don’t want to look like bad teammates. I think most, if not all, of the current Vikings realize that a healthy (emphasis on “healthy”) Brett Favre is probably the team’s best chance to get wins. But until anything official happens, they don’t want to look like they’ve already put all their eggs in one basket. The reason people like Ben Leber and Ray Edwards are so outspoken in their support for Tarvaris isn’t because they think he’s a good player, it’s because they don’t want to look like they’ve betrayed a member of the team.

  28. Jlewx,
    25 says it is purely because Jackson is not that good and they think Favre is better. I thought they overdrafted Jackson in the 2nd round. He was more like a 5th round type player. He is just a solid backup and nothing more.

  29. There’s no guarantee that Favre will start week 1 when you think about it. Seriously. OK, they sign him. But what if Sagevaris really kicks but in camp (one or both of them)? If one of them looks sharp and Favre looks stiff, why would you start Favre? Just to sell tickets?
    If Sagevaris starts, it actually works better. Because if they/he start to suck it during a game, Favre can trot on the field and Save The Day (or throw a couple of picks). They can get him a purple cape and everything.

  30. Edwards is a prima-donna himself.
    He was horrible last year and it was he who was suspended for a banned substance after saying his goal was the sack record. LOL
    As for Greenway, he seems to be a little big headed after his big year.
    I laugh at all the high praise for the Viking linebackers. They are average at best.
    Put Urlacher, Briggs, Willis, or Ray Lewis behind the Williams Wall and Jared Allen where they can roam free without having to worry about shedding blocks. You’ll see the difference between average and top-end talent immediately.

  31. empty13 says:
    July 4, 2009 1:40 PM
    yes who are you… apparently the vikes locker room brought race up first… and i wouldnt be surprised if it was at t-jackoff’s urging!
    doug williams was a super bowl winner with a complete team around him. just like doug rypien. neither qb was that important a cog to those skins machines.
    so cram it. i, mr. YT did NOT bring it up first. and it is not a topic you own. atty genl holder wants an honest discourse, here it is. he, among other high osamabama maladministration officeholders, isnt qualified for the job he has because he is an idiot. is he an idiot because he is black and pee cee? well, it looks that way to me.
    i do not believe in the speech codes that people like you are trying to impose.
    and based on what is happening in dee cee, osamabama sure would like to make the majority into a permanent silent minority.
    pound sand jackass. i pay my taxes and i have experience, knowhow and initiative. i have the right to judge and speak my mind. you dont have a brain to speak of, either.
    _________________________
    ‘Osamabama’ was elected by a majority, in fact he got more votes than any non-incumbent ever. Next year will be better, he hasn’t had time to un-screw up everything yet. Happy 4th of July.

  32. Have a rest favre! Your aging now.,give way to other aspiring quarterback like tarvaris.!

  33. I’m with “some members of the team” that wants T Jack Off to start. I also want Childress to get a 5 year contract extension and Percy Harvin to get caught (again) smoking the wacky tabacky.
    I would also enoy seeing the Vikings scramble to sell seats to avoid TV blackouts and get close up shot of Ziggy holding his nose while he watches this train wreck.
    Question is, should I pray for this or world peace?, I’m not sure which one has the least chance of it happening.

  34. Kaboom — Chester Taylor is not the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th best back in that division. He would be the odd man out behind Peterson (obviously) but Ryan Grant, Matt Forte and even Kevin Smith are all better than Taylor. Take off your purple blinders and get a grip.

  35. I greatly give Farve a greatly deal of credit for being in the NFL for such a long period of time and being the last of tough QB’s like those of the 60’s and 70’s. However, why not retire and ride of into the sunset!?!?! To the Vikings, you drafted a QB(TJ) who has the skills and work to be a great QB with the right tools!!! Is this to cause hate for Green Bay or create ticket sells. In ending, my prays go out to the McNair family on their lost….. We lost a great role model, QB who put out 100% even when he was hurt and well liked by fans and players….. He showed that a QB from a HBC can make it and pushed aside the attitude of black QB’s……

  36. Bringing in Favre will result in Childress losing his job just like mangini. Jackson was progressing fine enough. Favre butting in for yet another failed Elway like ride off into the sunset will only retard this overall young team’s growth, for what? So that Favre can retire at the end of the year, leading to a new coach, which means everybody, most critically the young QB, will have to start all over again, when he’s actually done a decent job.
    If you take a look at Favre at a comparable point in his career, Jackson’s actually better. The last time Favre was in a Super bowl was 1997…that was a long time ago. Favre’s still an above average QB, but as a fan, you have to be concerned that at the end of every year recently, he just hasn’t gotten the job done physically anymore, and he’s shrunk in crunch time for more than a decade. This situation is much different from Warner and Collins taking over for Leinart and Young respectively because they were playing at much higher levels. Favrer is not that guy anymore, and I love Brett Favre.
    Also, why aren’t fans concerned that Favre ran away from mcCarthy, the first coach to hold his feet to the fire for his repeated mistakes since Holmgren. Hell, the Vikings are already losing that battle because he’s not completely commited to his teammates nor shown up to off-season work. I know though….we can criticize the “diva” wide receivers and others wanting new contracts for not being commited to their teams, but Favre can do whatever he wants.
    Ask yourself this question Vike fans….if God forbid, peterson blew out his knee during the off-season work, would he be coming back to play for your team? if the answer is no, do you really want a front runner like that at the most critical position on your team?

  37. t jack haters forget that his kid was having a pace maker put in tell me that wouldnt distract even peyton manning

  38. The first post asked about Favre’s loyalties, well here they are, in order of importance (to him):
    1. The spotlight–he can’t stand to get out of it and retire
    2. Himself–he doesn’t care what team he’s on, as long as his name is still in the news.
    3. His legacy–he wants ALL the QB records that there are. He only lacks a few more.
    4. Did I mention himself?
    Farve doesn’t give a flying fart in the wind about a “team,” just himself. He’s over-the-hill and it’s time to hang it up Brett. Don’t go out a broken down old man and leave that as your legacy. Especially with a team that doesn’t stand a chance in hades of winning the superbowl, nevertheless, even winning their division or getting a wild card.
    Personally, I hope he does start and on the first pass play, drops into the pocket and gets creamed by a few defensive backs or lineman and then carried off the field. Wonder if that would leave him in good enough shape to do anymore Levi’s commercials?

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