Is Vick ready for a second chance?

NFL_vick1.jpgFormer Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Joe Horn is Michael Vick’s friend, which admittedly makes him biased when it comes to the suspended quarterback.

He’s also convinced that Vick has learned his lesson following his incarceration in the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., for his involvement in a criminal dogfighting enterprise.

As someone who has remained in contact with Vick before, during and after his imprisonment, Horn is certain that Vick is contrite about his misdeeds.

“Mike’s hungry to prove himself,” Horn said in a telephone interview this morning. “He’s very humble. He knows what he did is wrong, and he has paid his debt to society. He’s ready to get back in football. I’m happy for him, that he’s over his trial. He’s over that, and, now, he deserves that opportunity for a second chance.”

According to an ESPN report, Vick could meet with Goodell as soon as this week and may possibly gain conditional reinstatement to attend training camp if he’s signed by a team.

Under that scenario, a possible decision from Goodell on whether he’ll face further NFL discipline will be determined before the start of the regular season.

“Goodell is a hard, tough commissioner, and he should be,” Horn said. “He’s taking a stance in the NFL that I think everybody respects. I hope the meeting will go well. I hope he’ll see that Mike is sincere. I think he’ll give him that second chance.”

Horn said that Vick has been apologetic to him and other teammates about getting in trouble and hurting the Falcons’ prospects.

“We talk about that all the time,” said Horn, who was out of football last year and is hoping to catch on with a team as his agent has been in contact with the Baltimore Ravens and other NFL franchises. “He was one of the big reasons I came to Atlanta. He felt bad that his situation happened. When he left, I was kind of lost and looking for something exciting to happen.

“I tell him not to worry about it. I think he knows that I’m a true friend. Things happen for a reason. Hopefully, the opportunity to play with Mike will present itself again. You never know what might happen. I’m looking to get back on the field myself, so we’ll see.”

From a football standpoint, Horn is of the opinion that Vick will regain his skills and reprise his exciting style of play.

“Mike’s always going to be an exciting quarterback,” Horn said. “I know a lot of people talk about him changing positions, but Mike needs to play quarterback. I think he still has the arm strength and the speed. Any organization that takes a chance on him, I think they’ll be very lucky and very happy that they did.”

40 responses to “Is Vick ready for a second chance?

  1. “…Things happen for a reason…” says Horn.
    Yeah, they do Joe. RonMexico savagely fought and killed dogs while establishing an illegal interstate gambling operation. The reason these things happened is because Vick is a bad person.

  2. HA, best thing to happen the Falcons franchise was this clown going to prison. They were never going to win a title with him under center…NO, NFL team will win a championship with a RB disguised as a QB leading the team. This isn’t college!

  3. Bottom line. Goodell needs to figure out whether letting Vick back in would provide a bigger profit for the league and his new team vs. a potential backlash from P.E.T.A. Profit>P.E.T.A. Welcome back Mr. Vick!

  4. F*ck Vick, and idiot bloggers that pretend to be writers and ‘write’ about him 10 times a day.

  5. “Horn said that Vick has been apologetic to him and other teammates about getting in trouble and hurting the Falcons’ prospects.”
    Apologetic? Vick getting in trouble didn’t hurt the Falcons’ prospects, it unshackled them from a QB who was NEVER going to make the franchise a winner.
    Vick getting in trouble = Falcons drafting Matt Ryan = Falcons prospects improve.

  6. I have to agree with Common Sense. Nothing says “remorse” like a trip to the gentleman’s club.
    I’m guessing that Adam Jones wasn’t invited.

  7. I am on the fense with this one, I have four dogs and could not imagine putting any of them up to fight let alone killing them (especially in the manner Vick did it).
    I dont see how a normal person would be allowed to get their day job back after serving time in federal prison, especially a high profile person at that. It would never happen, but Vick has his supporters who believe he has served his time and should get a second chance. Maybe that second chance is talking to people, and creating a new career. Vick indeed has a right for a second chance, I am not sure that second chance belongs in the NFL.

  8. “I think he still has the arm strength and the speed.”
    Add Joe Horn to the list of people who have no idea what it takes to play QB.

  9. All this dam Hate! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! What will you all do when he comes back scream louder??? So if or when your kid does something then they should be allowed to return to work either…..Dam this country has a bunch of unofficial judges….LOL

  10. i dont doubt horn believes what he is saying about vick. i do doubt that horn believes what he is saying about roger.
    vick’s 2nd chance is that he is out of prison.
    returning to his old job or one very similar… that sounds like quite the extra chance to me.

  11. I have to agree with wynterthrone on this one.
    More or less.
    It is time Leonard Little gets sh*tcanned, too. Long overdue, actually.

  12. Give Vick a second chance the guy spent 23 months in prison. I guarantee you he’s going to be a saint (not the NFL team) when he comes back. He would have to be a retart to make the same mistake twice.

  13. A. The marijuanna issue is unresolved (All these criminals are connected to marijuanna abuse) by the NFL.
    B. The gambling and interstate racketeering is not resolved under the Personal Conduct policy of the NFL.
    C. There is still all the bad press prior to his latest arrest:
    1) The stolen watch at the airport.
    2) The marijuanna transportation discovered at the airport.
    3) The flipping off paying customers of the NFL.
    4) The spread of his venereal disease and Ron Mexico false identity (What locker room buddy wants to be near his towel).
    5) Lying to the commisioner, the franchise that contracted with him, and the American public.
    6) His ties to organized crime not only with illegal gambling, but animal abuse and drug trafficking.
    7) His ownership of the drug house where the original raid took place.

  14. I believe Vick deserves a 2nd chance. When you take away a human beings chance at returning to his livelihood, you increase the chance he will fail and he will be back in prison, sucking more taxpayer money. Maybe he is sorry for what he did, and I agree, as long as Leonard Little has a job in the NFL, and the fact he has had one for the last 10 years blows my mind, then you must let Vick resume his career and ressurect his life.

  15. Wouldnt you want a chance at redemption? Has the wonderful story of Josh Hamilton taught us nothing? If he screws up his 2nd chance, then by all means ship off to the UFL with JP Los(er)man, never to be seen again. Since when have we all become so heartless and judgmental

  16. “All this dam Hate! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! What will you all do when he comes back scream louder??? ”
    Nope, quietly cancel my season ticket (after 10 years) and donate an extra $270 to the SPCA.

  17. Joe Flacco’s agent said yesterday on Serius Radio that he thinks Vick should play slot receiver for the the Ravens.
    If it happens maybe the NFL will start allowing those “Mexico” Jerseys again…

  18. “I have to agree with Common Sense. Nothing says “remorse” like a trip to the gentleman’s club.”
    What do going to a strip club and having remorse have to do with one another? Oh, nothing. The guy was locked up for almost 2 years for f’s sake, he wanted to bang some skanks, seems like a logical place to go.

  19. I agree that Leonard Little should not be playing but that did not happen on Goodell’s watch and I don’t think he should retroactively enforce his policies. Vick’s crimes did happen under Goodell’s watch and Vick should be punished. Vick has not paid his debt to society. He was protected by the Gerald Poindexter (Surry County Prosecutor) who should no longer have a job either as he is completely reckless and would likely never have charged Vick with anything if the feds didn’t come in. He admitted to killing at least 8 dogs and was only charged with 1 count of cruelty to animals which is a load of sh*t!!!! Just because Poindexter ignored the crimes doesn’t mean Goodell should. Also, if I recall correctly, his failed piss test prior to incarceration made him eligible to serve time in the Leavenworth facility. I remember Florio writing an article about it. Many children, whether you like it or not, look up to these athletes and since the players themselves won’t curb their actions, it is up to the leagues (not just the NFL but all professional sports) to curb their exposure and influence!

  20. will, yall must hate america, to keep foisting ookie on the rest of us.
    it isnt our job to give him another chance so it will be easier to stay out of prison. some folks want to put all the responsibility only on them that can handle it, ie, not vick.

  21. @VikingsPimp …..Hmmm.. so people who oppose Vick are heartless and judgemental? …You mean sort of like a person who would torture and kill helpless animals because they were not savage enough to satsfy his own insane bloodlust? … You Vick azzwipes are sickening. The only “chance” this foul, depraved monster deserves is a 10 yard head start before a pack of hungry pit bulls are released to chase him down and tear him into pieces. Vick is a contemptible bit of human debris and he sucked as a QB anyway. Hopefully he never disgraces the NFL by slithering back onto the playing field. Goodell should bar him for life, he cannot show true remorse for his actions because the only thing he is sorry about is that he got caught. Vick is a violent savage who would still be operating Bad Newz Kennels if a few of the brainless hobos in his “posse” had not scewed up. As far as the idiotic ” he’s done his time” mantra, that entitles him to his freedom, not to a job in the NFL. Vick’s apologists are as worthless as he is.

  22. He already has his 2nd chance. He was released from prison.
    Now go find a job and get turned down like any other ex-con has to do loser.

  23. I say reinstate him….. but my question is, what will all of you Vick suck ups say when not one team picks him up because his upside is not greater than his downside ? You might want to contemplate that now since that is where this is heading.
    You guys are also correct that Leonard Little should’t be in the league but I guess that just goes to show what a pitiful and soulless orginazation the Rams are.

  24. I’m only saying he deserves another chance, and no I’m not a Vick azzwipe. The NFL is just another form of employment, and he is entitled to seek whatever employment he so chooses, and within the constraints of what the law allows. Yes he fought, tortured and ultimately killed dogs, and for that he will face the ultimate judgement at a later date. Philtration, if Goodell reinstates him there is no guarantee he will get a job, so yes he will get turned down like any other ex con loser, same as his brother Marcus had to face. Wouldnt guys like you and batfreight delight in the opportunity to see him shop his wares around the NFL and see him summarily turned down by all teams. So if I understand you correctly, he is allowed to pursue all avenues of employment, as long as it isnt employment you care about. Should convicts not be allowed to work ever again? Or is it that your argument is that they should be doomed to work terrible jobs that are grossly under compensated for the rest of their lives on top of the prison sentence they have already served. Please give me a serious list of other jobs you think he should be barred from working in, not the endless list of jokes and smart*ss comments you see on this website. Can we have some serious and respectful dialogue where reasonable minds differ, or will we continue to be courageous behind a monitor and keybord and call other people worthless?

  25. Pantherdan, can people take one side of an issue without being referred to as a Michael Vick suck up? I’m for redemption and forgiveness, not this endless stream of hate and bludgeoning. Is it possible he is sorry for what he did? Is it possible for people to change what’s in their heart? To err is human, to forgive is divine. The same people who like to complain about the lower class and crime, wont give that same man a chance to redeem himself and make something out of a bad situation. My opinion is what it is, and I choose to stay respectful discuss issues and not sling insults. I choose to respect youre opinion the same way I would respect it if we were talking over a beer at the pub or at a holiday party.

  26. Youre statement insinuates batfreight that the only chance Michael Vick should get is the chance to die? My comment about heartless and judgemental has nothing to do with opposing Vick or being for Vick. It has to do with your over the top hyperbole referring to what you would like to see happen to Vick, outside of not being reinstated. Is it possible to say that you dont think Vick should be allowed in the NFL without then adding that you wish him to be killed by vicious dogs and that he never have meaningful employment as long as he lives. We build these athletes up just to tear them down, and you seem to take great joy in this. I will be the first to admit he was a marginal qb, with great athletic skills. almost 3 years away from the game, he will be lucky to get a sniff at backup job, and has no shot to start anywhere. He atleast deserves the chance to continue his pursuit of employment. The United States guarantees us life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, doesnt guarantee the subsequent attainment of said goals

  27. lets just agree to keep it civil and respectful. Our backgrounds definitely shape our opinions and viewpoints, so it is only natural that debates like this can inspire such contradictory opinion. It’s important to keep your mind and hearts open to another view, though no you dont have to accept it.

  28. A. The marijuanna issue is unresolved (All these criminals are connected to marijuanna abuse) by the NFL.
    B. The gambling and interstate racketeering is not resolved under the Personal Conduct policy of the NFL.
    C. There is still all the bad press prior to his latest arrest:
    1) The stolen watch at the airport.
    2) The marijuanna transportation discovered at the airport.
    3) The flipping off paying customers of the NFL.
    4) The spread of his venereal disease and Ron Mexico false identity (What locker room buddy wants to be near his towel).
    5) Lying to the commisioner, the franchise that contracted with him, and the American public.
    6) His ties to organized crime not only with illegal gambling, but animal abuse and drug trafficking.
    7) His ownership of the drug house where the original raid took place.
    There are all the reasons Goodell needs to suspend him indefinetly. He can play in the UFL or CFL but he does not belong in the NFL. He already pissed away all his money he had from his 100 million dollar contract now he expects everyone to forgive and forget the heinous crimes he committed. And now it comes out his first night out he is hanging with Allen Iverson making it rain on strippers? Sounds to me like he hasn’t changed he just wants to say and do the right things to get a big NFL salary and then do all the same things as before except the dog fighting. I enjoyed watching him play in the NFL especially when he laid the smackdown on the Packers at Lambeau Field in the playoffs but the negative impact it will have on your team just isn’t worth it. Goodell should make the decision for us and not allow him back in considering he had lied about all the things he later plead guilty to.

  29. He isnt going to get a big NFL salary, maybe compared to what you and I make it will be substantial, but it indeed will be quite a paycut for Vick. Goodell will look at all the evidence you presented and make a ruling. The best option for Goodell I believe is making the reinstatement conditional so he can catch on with a team, and preserving his decision making authority til a further date. For all of those who say his release from prison was his second chance, it was his 2nd chance at freedom. Now he needs to be given a 2nd chance at making a respectful life for himself, and dooming him to a life of poverty and bitterness doesnt do him any good nor does it do society any good. And since when was it illegal to go to a strip club and look at beautiful women after over 2 years in jail and confinement. He didnt cause any trouble and didnt assault anyone. Let those without sin cast the first stone.

  30. VikingsPimp, I’m sooo sorry if I offended you. I didn’t know Suck up was such a harmfull or uncivilized adjective. I stated that he should be reinstated but remember no NFL team owes him a job. You still didn’t answer my question, if he isn’t picked up by a team, after reinstatement, then what will you good gentlemen have to say ?

  31. If the Humane Society of the United States, a group of people who fight everyday for the rights and safety of all animals, big and small, are willing to give Vick a second chance, and risk their reputation with this man, I think that speaks volumes. I’m not so blind to not see that this might be a ploy for Vick to get in the good graces of the league, but let’s atleast see what he has to offer before we condemn him completely. He did the crime, served his time and now it is time for him to resume his life.

  32. I wont have anything to say, I fully expect a team to give him a job in some form or fashion. If that proves to not be true, either by suspension, banishment or team choice, I wish him the best of luck, and hope that he chooses to keep doing work for the USHS and speaking out against dogfighting. This wouldnt be the first time a convicted felon was released from prison and allowed back into is profession of choice. My feeling is if the opportunity is there, he shouldnt be denied that chance simply on the grounds that people are bitter that it will be highly compensated. You cannot punish him for the rest of his life, as much as you would like to. We allow murderers back out on the street, and in some cases they do good work in convincing others this is the wrong path. If you dont give people hope and a shot at redemption, you are giving them a life sentence, and that my friend will ultimately fall back on the rest of us in the form of higher taxes and more reliance on government, though I’m sure that sounds like a mighty good plan to Barack.

  33. pantherdan, I’m not offended, just wanted to take the conversation away from the lowest common denominator. By the way, dont you think Michael Vick and the Wildcat were made for each other. Bringing Vick in for a dozen or so plays, as a slot receiver, putting him in motion, backfield, I cant comprehend the amount of doubt that would create in the minds of defense. Defenses were starting to figure out the wildcat, but that was because they knew there was little or no chance of a pass, players like Vick and Pat White and next year with Tebow change the game completely, atleast until that gets figured out too. The Dolphins went from Putrid to Playoff contenders in the blink of an eye

  34. GO VICK!!!! EVERYBODY IS ALL IN YOUR BUSINESS WHEN THEY NEED BE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR LIVES!! FOR REAL HE HAS SERVED HIS TIME(WHICH WAS STUPID ALL THAT MONEY THAT WE PAID TO HAVE HIM LOCKED UP)LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! IF HE WAS YOUR BROTHER, SON OR ANY FAMILY MEMBER YOU WOULDNT WANT THIS FOR THEM!!! STOP HATING !!!!! LET HIM PLAY FOOTBALL WE MISS HIM MUCH!!!!
    LUV YOU VICK,
    YOUR VA SISTER,
    TY

  35. I’ve never seen Vick catch a pass or run a route so I have no idea how that would work out. In Atl. he was the “wildcat “with the threat of run or pass every down and his last couple seasons people figured out how to shut that down. I don’t know if his body can take the pounding at RB either.
    From my earlier statements you can probably tell I’m far from being a Vick fan but I don’t wish for him to be punished for the rest of his life. What pisses me off is that some people think that it is his “right “to be reinstated and his “right” to be a starting QB again. I disagree, but if some team wants to take that risk, they’ll have to live with the consequenses good or bad.

  36. tye1971
    IF HE WAS MY BROTHER OR SON, I WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS ASS A LONG TIME AGO AND THEN KICKED MY OWN ASS FOR LETTING HIM TURN OUT THE WAY HE DID.
    FOR REAL !!!!!

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