Jets don't miss Mangini

Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times takes a look at the new sheriff in New York — first-year Jets coach Rex Ryan.

And the praise that players are heaping on Ryan includes some criticism of his predecessor, Eric Mangini.

“You can say what you want and speak your mind,” safety Kerry Rhodes told Farmer.  “I think it’s always best if you can do that, because if you
don’t you can end up holding so much stuff in that at the end of the
day it can be combustible. That’s how we ended up with the last coach.”

Offensive lineman Damien Woody, who joined the Jets prior to Mangini’s third and final year, was particularly candid about the prior regime.

“Here I am 31 years old, I’ve got my own kids, and I’m married, and
here’s someone that’s not that much older than me — or whatever the
case may be — telling me what I can and can’t do,” Woody said   “It’s
so regimented where the game is just not a game anymore.  It’s not fun. 
Even when you win it’s not fun.”

Farmer also mentions that the “mantra” uttered throughout Jets camp is that the new coach “treats us like men.”

Meanwhile, the players on Cleveland’s pro football team might be wishing that the Browns had hired Ryan instead of Mangini.
 

28 responses to “Jets don't miss Mangini

  1. Being a player’s coach is all well and good when you’re winning, there have been several of these stories this offseason, and Rex has gotten praise from everyone…but just like Romeo in Cleveand (undoubtedly a players coach) if you dont win you wont have a job. It’s easier to be a hard nose jerk coach and then appeal to the players when needed than to be a players coach and try to put the hammer down when it needs to be.

  2. Wasn’t Romeo Crennel notorious for treating his players like men? Being a players coach? That worked out really well for his team didn’t it.

  3. Yeah, that strategy worked so well for Rex’s dad, Buddy, when he was a head coach.
    When you’re the defensive coordinator for the Ravens, you’re pretty much guaranteed a head coaching job a couple years later. So far, not one of them has been successful as a head coach. I guess it’s a little bit tougher when you don’t have Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, huh guys?
    I’m sure Rex will give Coors a lot of material when he blows up in his press conferences after all the Jets loses this year.
    That mantra, “treats us like men”, has always been used by pushover coaches. They don’t last long.

  4. daffy87 says:
    August 16, 2009 11:32 PM
    Being a player’s coach is all well and good when you’re winning, there have been several of these stories this offseason, and Rex has gotten praise from everyone…but just like Romeo in Cleveand (undoubtedly a players coach) if you dont win you wont have a job. It’s easier to be a hard nose jerk coach and then appeal to the players when needed than to be a players coach and try to put the hammer down when it needs to be.
    Great post daffy, same thing is happening right now with the Dallas Cowboys and Wade Phillips. He is cracking the whip this year, after running camp “cupcake” last year. Good luck with that…….

  5. I am 31 years old, I’ve got my own kids, and I’m married, and here’s someone that’s not that much older than me — or whatever the case may be — telling me what I can and can’t do,” Woody said
    Woody you F’in retard thats called EMPLOYMENT!
    If you don’t like it, get a job as a grave digger. You Fat a$$!

  6. Mangini, Josh Mac…. all these Bill Bellicheat clones. Or so they think.
    Seems like working a season or two for the Pats is liking kissing the Pope’s ring or something. Everybody thinks you’re special.
    Poor Browns and Broncos.
    Here’s betting Pat Bowlen doesn’t allow this McDaniel circus to go beyond 2010. Mangini may get lucky and get that far in Cleveland. Neither are legitimate NFL head coaches.

  7. @Clevelander:
    Jealous that your coach is a douchebag and Rex Ryan isn’t?
    I’m not a Jets fan, by the way. I just know that Eric Mangina is a giant douche.

  8. I don’t think the players are saying they want a push-over. When you have a coach who’s such a pucker-butt that you can’t even speak freely in the locker room you’re basically regressing back to a grade school level of maturity. Fact is they’re all professionals and should treat each other accordingly.
    PS/ When will this frikkin’ new system properly set cookies and remember if I’m logged in or not? Bring back WordPress.

  9. Can’t wait til these guys are free agents and have to sign with the Browns. Dumb career move, fellas…

  10. Player’s Coach=Fail
    I wouldn’t expect much from Jets this year after hearing this.

  11. Being a players coach might not always work but then again what Mangini was doing in NY wasn’t working either. What Wade is doing in Dallas isn’t working, however what Parcells did didn’t work out either. Its almost like you have to find medium where you treat your players like men, but hold them accountable like human beings. The coach who conquers that fromula will of course be successful.

  12. When a coach is your “buddy” and you start to lose, will he still be your “buddy”?

  13. JC faglio what is your problem with mangini? no HC has had more “stories” bashing him on this “site”….if mangini bothers you this much you might need counseling.
    typical NFL baby, can’t stand a little discipline…someone needs to tell Damien Woddy that the HC is the boss, like it or not & when the boss says blow me…you blow
    did he spurn you for a date?

  14. @Kramer: ….”.typical NFL baby, can’t stand a little discipline…someone needs to tell Damien Woddy that the HC is the boss, like it or not & when the boss says blow me…you blow”
    Bet they LOVE you at work!

  15. Are you listening Todd haley?
    these guys are grown men and degrading them to get them to perform will only turn them against them at the end of the day.

  16. # bbq says: August 17, 2009 3:11 AM
    @Clevelander:
    Jealous that your coach is a douchebag and Rex Ryan isn’t?
    I’m not a Jets fan, by the way. I just know that Eric Mangina is a giant douche.
    HEY YOUR A GIANT DOUCHE bbq! See? I don’t really know you either but that didn’t stop me from calling you a mindless name. Why don’t you go back to wearing mommy’s dresses and leave the men to discuss football.

  17. aka Philly sewer rat1
    It’s YOU’RE…not “YOUR”….quit yelling and pick up a dictionary!

  18. I think Rex Ryan will become a great head coach for the Jets. He’s got the best background and experience for a first year guy. His attitude and approach is going to re-energize the Jets and make them probably a lot more interesting then the Giants, up in NY.
    On the flipside.., I end up feeling bad for the Browns. Well…., the fanbase at least. Ever since the ‘came back’ to Cleveland.., they’ve been skid mark on the NFL’s underwear. My first thought when I saw Mangini named the coach there, was.., really? He’s the last guy I see improving that team or turning things around.
    When former players reference him as taking the fun out of the game…, thats just a bad sign. I don’t care if the Browns become champions or anything…, but it would be nice to see them become a competitive team. When a coach says they need to beat the teams they’re supposed to. They are talking about the Cleveland Browns.
    Those fans deserce a lot more then they’re going to be getting from him. A LOT more..,

  19. We get it, Florio–you don’t like Mangini. Heard you loud and clear the last 40 or so times you’ve posted about it. Maybe you can tell us about the rookie bus trip again? Does it really matter what former players think? Keep reaching.

  20. # dbartdog says: August 17, 2009 9:51 AM
    aka Philly sewer rat1
    It’s YOU’RE…not “YOUR”….quit yelling and pick up a dictionary!
    MY BAD:
    You’re a giant douche bag too!

  21. You could put a turd in a cap and headset and as long as it was its first year as a Jet, it’d be played off as the second coming of football Christ. The Jets– an those who cover and follow them– make Dallas seem like Cold-Hard-Realityville. I mean, wasn’t there a wave of autoerotic aphyxiation deaths across the Big Apple after the Al Groh hiring?

  22. I am a true Browns fan, and it is damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
    We had a players coach in Crennel and he treated players like “Men” too. Look at what that got him! No extra effort, no push, no fire, no playoffs, a boat load of missed tackles!
    Remember J – E – T- S, Jets, Jets, Jets fans!?
    It is only pre-season!
    Mangini – played well against the conference best, the Jets were blown out two times in his three years there.
    If we didn’t hire him, someone else would have and all the sports websites would be saying “Cleveland should have went and got Mangini when they had the chance, he is a veteran coach, he came from Belicheck” yada, yada, yah, wooptie, wooptie, woo!
    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t – I am willing to give the guy four years to see what he can put together!
    Go Browns!

  23. As much as folks on this site rag on Belichick, he has the formula for handling players down to an art. Everyone is held accountable for their jobs, everyone knows that their job goes to whoever does it best, the veterans and team captains police the players, everyone is given the freedom to speak their minds (except to the press – you have to drink the KoolAid first for that), and there’s a lot of practical joking and things that keep it a game always going on.
    Mangini with all his rules and idiotic bus trips just doesn’t get it. Probably never will.
    The Browns and their fans deserved so much better. Marty would have been a better deal, at least he’ll make them a winning team and get them to the playoffs most years. Then you can start shopping around for a HC who can take it all the way. Mangini ensures their mediocrity for years to come.

  24. What has Ryan done so far? Nothing. He gets credits for the ravens defense, but that credit should go to Ozzie for drafting the players.
    Maybe Florio should hold off on stupid comments, impossible I know, and let the Jets play a few games to see how good Ryan really is.

  25. Players coach didnt work and doesnt work. You need to be hard on your players at times. Watch how many penaltys the Browns wont commit this season compared to last. Mangini isnt afraid to bench your teams good players because of crappy play. Mangini has the right idea just needs some bigger play makers.

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