Keep an eye out for StarCaps ruling

With Week One of the 2009 regular season officially one week away, there’s a fairly important item of non-football business that is still pending.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit has not yet ruled on whether the May 2009 decision preserving the Minnesota statutory claims brought by Vikings defensive tackles Kevin and Pat Williams will be affirmed or reversed.

Though the facts and the claims can get convoluted, the next wrinkle in the case is clear.  If the district court decision is upheld, the Vikings will have their two starting defensive tackles for the entire 2009 season.  If the decision is overturned, the Williams Wall will be dismantled for the first four games of the season, against the Browns, Lions, 49ers, and Packers.

The proposed suspension arise from the ingestion by the two players of StarCaps, an over-the-counter weight-loss supplement that was effective because it secretly had been spiked with a prescription diuretic, which also is a banned substance because it can be used to mask the presence of steroids.

Prior reports have indicated that is expected before the Vikings travel to Cleveland for a Week One reunion between quarterback Brett Favre against his most recent former head coach, Eric Mangini.

If the suspensions are going to be upheld, the league ideally would like to block the Williamses from the Vikings facility no later than Monday, September 7.  And since September 7 is Labor Day, if a ruling isn’t announced today or tomorrow, the earliest we’ll see it is Tuesday, September 8.

The Court already has expedited the process, holding oral arguments on August 18.  So, as of right now, it’s reasonable to assume that a decision could drop today or tomorrow.

32 responses to “Keep an eye out for StarCaps ruling

  1. The upside is that the Vikings’ second team defense played well against the Texans’ first team offense in the 3rd quarter of Monday’s game. I think there were no Vikings starters playing during that series. The defense is at a different level when the Williams Wall plays, but the team has depth to get beyond the possible suspensions.

  2. The William’s sisters will be staying home to enjoy the all you can eat buffets around the greater Twin Cities area.
    They get an “A” for Ingenuity and imaginativeness but the final grade is a C as in CBA. Why they think they can circumvent a league-wide labor negotiated agreement is beyond me, being a fat, dumb ass is an affliction, not an excuse (but being stupid seems to a prerequisite to joining the Viking’s organization, Exhibits A, B, & C would be (A) Childress, (B) anytime T Jack attempts to speak in the English langugue in complete sentences and (C) Brent Farve attempting to convince us that he changed his mind because his daughter asked him to win another Superbowl, if that were really true, he wouldn’t be joining the Vikings)

  3. “being a fat, dumb ass is an affliction” so what’s your excuse Jimmy boyo? Oh that’s right, you’re probably one of those perpetual students at the U of W Madison, still living at home w/mommy & daddy & sleeping in the same bed you’ve had sonce you were 12. Why is it that the only stories I see you commenting on are Vikings stories? What a worthless troll you are.

  4. I’m confused. According to your own writing, the decision coming is whether to throw it back to the state courts or not. Either way, there is no chance the suspension could possibly take place before more court arguments. Am I wrong?

  5. Jimmy,
    You are going to look like an even bigger turd than you already do when they aren’t suspended.
    You know nothing about football, so why are you trying to understand law?
    You’ve been proven wrong so many times on this site, I would think you’d be embarassed enough not to show up here, I mean outside of Dewey, you have to be the least knowledgable person on this site.
    The thing I find amazing is that you make it through everyday unscathed.
    People like you are usually dead by 21, it’s called thinning the herd.

  6. They will start 3-0 regardless if they play or not. They also have a good chance to start 5-0 if they win when GB comes to town then travel to St Louis.
    Obviously they woud rather have them suited up but the schedule is very favorable for them to suspended earlier rather than later. And they will benefit from keeping them fresh for the tougher matchups later in the season.

  7. What about the other Star Caps players? Were the Williamses the only two players in this particular case? I’m curious to know the status of Grady Jackson and co.

  8. I’m going to laugh so hard if these turds get suspended for the first 4 games (or any 4 games) of this season and the Vikings lose those 4 games. This whole thing could have been over and done with last season.

  9. The williams brothers have no case, the stuff was in their pee, does not matter were they say it came from. I don’t think that defense would work for anybody else. Big fat cheaters.

  10. It is so very funny when these fools claim they are not responsible for what they put in their mouths.
    They ingested a steroid masking agent yet claim they should not be subject to the consequences when other players have been subject to them.
    Worse yet is the foolish team they are on. All the never again talk when they were facing a wrongful death lawsuit over Korey Stringer they did nothing to discipline these individuals.
    Why should anyone have sympathy for their claims that as fat slobs coming into camp out of shape, took nonapproved diuretics to cheat and get closer to their assigned playing weights to lessen their fines?
    Their open admission of immorality and lack of ethics should not be used as an excuse in court to escape the mandatory punishments for rule breaking.
    They are simply very unworthy players who can never be trusted. Not even with the responsibility of monitoring what they put in their mouths.

  11. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: September 3, 2009 11:43 AM
    Is it safe to assume that this judge won’t be a Viking season ticketholder this time?
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    Hold up there with that assume part fella, cause when assume you make an ass outta you an me. And the point of all this is to make asses of the Queens. (like always). Instead we should sit back and let the league make an ass of the Vi-queens (again). ala the love boat fiasco, the whizzinator, the golf cart incident. and that’s just to name a few. That organization has never accomplished anything. What an embarrassment to the black n’ blue.

  12. The vikings are a failed franchise, but now only the second most worthless franchise in the NFL.

  13. Bud Grant says:
    September 3, 2009 10:05 AM
    The upside is that the Vikings’ second team defense played well against the Texans’ first team offense in the 3rd quarter of Monday’s game. I think there were no Vikings starters playing during that series. The defense is at a different level when the Williams Wall plays, but the team has depth to get beyond the possible suspensions.
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    The first-team defense looked crappy in the first series, though. They allowed the Texans to drive 68 yards before picking off Houston’s backup QB.

  14. I understand that no matters who loses this case that they will file another appeal. This case will not be settled till a year from now. Mike, your a lawyer, is this what will happen in your bright legal mind?

  15. Bob:
    Says the guy who is a fan of Johnny Jolly and his carful of Coedine, which he put in his “drank”.
    He’s fighting that in court, how is that different?
    Here’s a hint…it’s not.
    You Packer fans amaze me with your idiocy. Act like all your players are holier than thou, yet ridicule Vikings players.
    Good job Sparky, you once again look like a fool, but, that’s per usual for you.
    Now, do what you always do when you are proven wrong, disappear from the thread.

  16. Well Jolly hasn’t failed a drug test, and the DA has not brought the charges against him and he has not been suspended vs 2 lads who failed a drug test and want people to buy into it was a labeling error. Face it the vikings are a joke, terrible coach, the fans are laughable they don’t buy tickets, and the coach. Tell you what viking fans win the big one and we will consider you almost peers. Till then savor the time that the franchise has left in MN

  17. CarlEatschmit:
    Typical packer spin doctoring.
    Christ, your hypocrisy know no bounds does it?
    They are waiting on training on a new piece of equipment, it’s the reason they haven’t gone to trial yet, but, nice try.
    You aren’t in a car with that many pills and not dranking the drank.
    I’m from wisconsin, I could care less if they move, I still will be a fan.
    They aren’t going anywhere, so you can put that little pipe dream to rest.
    Goodell has already stated that he wants that franchise in Minnesota. A deal will get done.
    I need to borrow some cash from you to help fund the stadium. You think you could cash some of that ” Packer stock” in and lend me the money?
    I don’t care who I am, that’s funny!!

  18. …Vvs 2 lads who failed a drug test and want people to buy into it was a labeling error. …
    Do you even know the facts of the case? They’re facts because no points of the case are under contention. I still think they probably should be guilty because of what was agreed upon from the CBA, but still it seems that you are confused a bit.

  19. Fact of the matter the boys got caught with something in their P
    that isn’t supposed to be there, now they will try any excuse to not face the music. I will not loan a viking fan money to pay for a stadium for a franchise like the vikings, they waste their money on old QB’s. One more thing if the vikings are playing in MN in 2012 it will be in the dome, get over it you tight wad farmers, you won’t buck up and support your team.

  20. RagnartheViking says:
    September 3, 2009 2:01 PM
    Bob:
    Says the guy who is a fan of Johnny Jolly and his carful of Coedine, which he put in his “drank”.
    He’s fighting that in court, how is that different?
    Here’s a hint…it’s not.
    You Packer fans amaze me with your idiocy. Act like all your players are holier than thou, yet ridicule Vikings players.
    Good job Sparky, you once again look like a fool, but, that’s per usual for you.
    Now, do what you always do when you are proven wrong, disappear from the thread.
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    I missed the part where you proved Bob wrong on anything. I also missed the part where Bob said anything about supporting Johnny Jolly.
    I did see the usual Packer fan generalization and expected idiocy, though. Can’t miss that.

  21. Of Course he didn’t bring it up. Otherwise he wouldn’t have an arguement.
    In case you missed it Jimi, all posts are not about proving right and wrong.
    In fact no debate with a Packer fan is ever about right and wrong, because you can never prove a Packer fan wrong. Well, you can, but then they just change the arguement on you.
    I generalize Packer fans because they are all one and the same.
    For idiocy Jimi, look no further than your closest mirror.

  22. JimmySmith says: September 3, 2009 10:13 AM
    The William’s sisters will be staying home to enjoy the all you can eat buffets around the greater Twin Cities area.
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    How many of your DL went to the Pro Bowl last year? That’s right, shut your mouth.. The Williams boys are the best in the NFL at their respective positions bitch boy. Better then anything on your defense for sure, including that fat ass drug dealing no penalty by the league Johnny Jolly.
    Jealously will get your punk ass nowhere. Whether you like it or not, we have a better team then GB and that is why we are the defending NFC North Champs, that’s why our defense is better, and that is why our RB is better then anything GB has ever had. Choke on that Slap Nuts.

  23. The vikings have won the NFC North 1 time, what a history. In GB we count Pro Bowls as post season victories, no matter how many Packers are on the team.

  24. Carl gerbilinmyass:
    I’d remind you that they won the central division numerous times.
    But now I’ll get the inevitable response of how may super bowls have the Vikes won? der der der.
    Right?
    If you can’t win the arguement packer fans, just change it. I’ve seen it for years.

  25. We are talking the current division, and you viketards say Packer fans live in the past..
    Hasn’t the Northern division been around for going on 9 years now? What is your excuse other than cheaters never prosper.

  26. WTF? Dude, it’s the central division minus the Buccaneers.
    It’ fits your arguement bettr if you just count the last 9 years right?
    Thats because the packers sucked ass from 1969-1993, which is exactly why you don’t want to count central division titles.
    Come on, you know you want to bring up the Super bowls, your a packer fan, you justt can’t help yourself…..

  27. RagnartheViking says:
    September 3, 2009 7:31 PM
    In case you missed it Jimi, all posts are not about proving right and wrong.
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    Really? Even when you say you’ve proven him wrong? Because I’m pretty sure you said you did. But you didn’t come close.

  28. RagnartheViking says:
    September 4, 2009 3:50 PM
    WTF? Dude, it’s the central division minus the Buccaneers.
    It’ fits your arguement bettr if you just count the last 9 years right?
    Thats because the packers sucked ass from 1969-1993, which is exactly why you don’t want to count central division titles.
    Come on, you know you want to bring up the Super bowls, your a packer fan, you justt can’t help yourself…..
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    So you don’t want to count recent history (since the NFC North has existed).. OK. But you want to talk about 1969-1993. Your logic is astounding.

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