Seymour still doesn't show

The Patriots traded defensive lineman Richard Seymour to the Raiders on Sunday morning.

It’s now Tuesday evening, and Seymour has yet to show up.

A day after claiming that Seymour wants to be in Oakland and that the delay results from lingering financial issues between the player and his former team, Raiders coach Tom Cable has opted to act as if his jaw has been wired shut because it was broken after someone threw him out of a chair and into a cabinet.

“I don’t want to comment on [Seymour’s status] until we have something that’s done and concrete,” Cable said, according to Steve Corkran of the Oakland Tribune.

Per Corkran, a person close to Seymour said Monday night that Seymour was caught off guard by the trade, and that he’s sorting through his emotions and mulling his options.

The options are simple.  Show up, or don’t.  If he doesn’t show up, he risks placement on the reserve/left club list, which would prevent him from playing for anyone in 2009.

There’s a rumor floating around that Seymour wants the Raiders to promise they won’t use the franchise tag on him in 2010.  But why would the Raiders give up a first-round pick in 2011 for a guy who would be on the team for only one season, especially when his potential contributions for the first game of said one season will be minimal, given that he has yet to report for work.

66 responses to “Seymour still doesn't show

  1. Traded on Sunday. Raiders bought him a ticket on Amtrack from Boston to Buffalo. Took a flight to Nebraska. Greyhound to Denver… May be there by Monday night.

  2. Hey Mike, doesn’t “till we have something done and concrete” sound like they’re working on a long-term deal and that he’s waiting for that to report??

  3. Isn’t one option – don’t show up to pass the physical – trade is cancelled – Patriots then forced to keep him on their roster?

  4. Maybe he’s getting his financial ducks lined up so he can sit the year out.
    But, for a player his age, that is akin to flushing money down the toilet.

  5. He’s probably trying to get over the sudden onset of a major stomach virus.
    In the meantime, any word from Mz. Tequila or hasn’t she sobered up yet?

  6. Richard was my favorite player. I have worn his jersey every game since he was a rookie in 2001. Even I can see that it was time. You want a 2ND big contract? No way. This guy isnt getting paid pennies. He got a big deal from the Pats. Now, he is almost 30, with a ton of wear and tear(I dont care what anyone says, the amount of playoff games the Pats have played have worn guys down, especially Seymour) and he wants another monster deal? Wilfork, Mankins, Brady, Moss…these are all guys who have a contract expiring this year and next. Do you let go of Moss to keep Seymour? 5 years ago, maybe, now, NEVER. Mankins and Wilfork are both younger than Seymour, so they have to stay, and as far as Brady, well, I would keep him until he says he is done, because I have the feeling we are going to watch him and Moss chase all time records for the next 5 seasons, at least. So, sorry for the ramble, but Richard needs to accept this. He had the option. He could have taken less. Getting a bigger NFL contract now won’t equate to what he would have had if he played out the string in New England, post retirement, but hey, to each his own. Richard, thanks so much for the memories, but it is time to move on. You forced the Patriots hand.

  7. Yeah, Rodney Harrison floated that idea about making the Raiders promise they won’t use the franchise tag next season. But it makes no sense. No way would any team even consider something like that. Why trade a 1st-round pick for a one-year rental? It’s an absurd suggestion by Harrison.
    I think the truth is that the Raiders are working on a new deal to extend Seymour’s contract. As simple as that. Cable said he “didn’t want to comment on that (in response to a reporter asking if the team was working on a contract extension with Seymour) until we have something that’s done and concrete.” Sounds like that would mean a new contract. The Raiders also randomly restructured the contracts of two of their offensive linemen today. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
    Seymour will join the Raiders by Thursday with a new 3-4 year deal in tow.

  8. Ummm: “why would the Raiders give up a first-round pick in 2011 for a guy who would be on the team for only one season”?
    Duh. Look at their first-rounders since 1997 : with the exception of Nnamdi, all are suspect.
    They make bad decision after bad decision.

  9. “RaiderClay says:
    September 8, 2009 9:16 PM
    Isn’t one option – don’t show up to pass the physical – trade is cancelled – Patriots then forced to keep him on their roster?”
    It was covered. If he fails to report, the Patriots can put him on the Did Not Report list or whatever, and he can’t play this season, plus his contract rolls over to next season.

  10. “The options are simple. Show up, or don’t.”
    Well, I’d say they are a lot more complex than that: he can 1) show up, 2) not show up until he forces Oakland to give him a new one year deal or an agreement not to be franchised, 3) not show up until he gets a long-term deal, 4) not show up forcing Oakland to rescind the deal which sets off another series of options in dealing with Patriots… 5) do the Patriots dump their TE or do they left club him, etc… 6) not show up and retire, and 7) not show up and fight with either Oakland or NE again next year, etc…

  11. Seymour is within his own rights to not show up to the mess that is Oakland.
    I agree with him, I wouldn’t play for a down-trodden team where I could potentially be the star on defense.
    I wouldn’t move from Boston to California.
    I wouldn’t collect millions of dollars playing a childs game …
    I wouldn’t … wait … Millions? To play a kids game?

  12. “Hey Mike, doesn’t “till we have something done and concrete” sound like they’re working on a long-term deal and that he’s waiting for that to report??”
    Not necessarily. It sounds much more loudly to me like: “My owner made a lousy deal that the player doesn’t like so now we have to scramble to make a long-term deal that we can’t really afford and we don’t really want to do because we didn’t think this through but we really have to save face somehow.”

  13. Unfortunatly Seymour does have leverage. He could dig his heels in and refuse to go..Trade would fall apart and things would be very “aukward” in New England this season…..

  14. RaiderClay the teams can issue him a letter saying if he doesn’t report then he will be put on the did not report list and have to sit out the year with no pay. A player can’t refuse a trade. It is in the CBA unless they have something written specifically in their contract. Seymour either reports to the Raiders or doesn’t play this year and loses millions and a year towards being a UFA

  15. Hey Paul_R,
    I’ve always loathed the highly overrated San Diego Super Chokers, but what a bunch of d-bags they have on that team now.
    The Chargers have choked so many times over the years it’s hard to believe. 0-for-43 and counting, buddy.
    And now Merriman brings new meaning to the term “choke artist.” Ha.
    Rumor is Tila found Rivers injecting Merriman in the butt.
    The question is, was it with another steroid needle or some of PR’s man meat? Ewwwwwwwwwwww.

  16. He’s still comming to grips with the fact that he’s been sucked into a “career” black hole.

  17. RaiderClay says:
    Isn’t one option – don’t show up to pass the physical – trade is cancelled – Patriots then forced to keep him on their roster?
    ____________________________
    Correct. Trades are conditional on the player(s) passing a physical, which usually entails having any and all players involved in a trade show up for their designated team(s).

  18. Sounds like a contract is being worked out by the sounds of cable saying he won’t talk about it until “Somethings done and concrete” Hmm what could that something be? A contract maybe?

  19. Sounds to me like maybe Seymour got into a pissing match with Kraft over contract and Kraft called his bluff by trading him cross nation to the Black Hole and last place. Who blinked first?

  20. Seymour needs to realize football is a business. If he doesn’t get a long term deal with Oakland, he can have a breakout season, then if not being labeled a franchise player, he can find another team willing to pay his price. I think he could be a huge asset for the Raiders this year. The payoffs would be fantastic for him. He just needs to sit and think it out.

  21. Rumor is Al Davis is trying to get Jack Walsh to retrieve Seymour. After call he was successful in getting the Duke for Moscone.
    Nobody has the heart to tell Al that Walsh isn’t a real person.

  22. @TFBuckFutter
    It’s the “reserve/left” list after the “dreaded 5-Day Letter”. Just thought I’d help out.
    @AutumnWind999
    Sorry, but I’m not a Bolts fan. I’m also not an adolescent like you. Have a nice day after you grow up, son.

  23. Isn’t this a lot like the T.O to Baltimore trade? T.O was traded to Baltimore, but then Philadelphia stepped in and basically played peace-maker.
    Maybe another team will step in and take a shot at him, knowing what the price tag is.
    Then again, Al Davis may be the only one would drop a first rounder on an older player……
    Who has Dan Snyder on speed dial?

  24. Seymour’s days with New England are over, no matter what happens next.
    Many of you seem to be in denial about that.
    Coach Belichick will never let the precedent be set that a player can blow off a trade and return to the team.

  25. I’m starting to see also why the Pats traded him…
    Seems to me that the Pats offered some ridiculous low-figure for a long term deal and he refused.
    It’s the same thing that happened with Deion Branch, Ty Law, Asante Samuel, etc.
    The minute they want more money than the club can offer, they will get rid of you.
    Seymour should either try to stay for the Pats for less money or show up for Raiders and just play. He’s still under contract to play for one more year, doesn’t matter which team.

  26. Richard is simply doing what Richard does, being patient and waiting to be shown the money. Then he will show and play -complacent as always. No way does he lose any money, not Richard Seymour.

  27. Alpheratz says:
    Coach Belichick will never let the precedent be set that a player can blow off a trade and return to the team.
    _____________________________
    Very true.

  28. “milehiclown
    save your post, and remember that Zach Miller, Russell, and McFadden are all bust……now I know why you go by “clown” Good luck w/ Orton! Gotta admit the Bronco’s #1’s are all going to Canton!

  29. Actually…it was just a few years ago when Seymour held out (and dont think for a second that THAT was forgotten by Bill Belichek either), that Seymour uttered the now famous line “It’s just business” to the Patriots……..shoe’s on the other foot now…he can’t say a word about it

  30. The Pats, under Kraft, have always been about separating the playing side of football from the business side. When they do business they are ALL business, and no one is sacred. This is how they got their three superbowls. No, it wasn’t by taping. It was by saving as much money as possible so they can fill the whole roster with the best players they could for the money. That means instead of a star player taking up huge caps, they would settle for 3-4 okay players rather than having a huge hole on the team.
    For each player/position they have an set figure for how much they will pay. Then they fill that slot with the best player they can get for that money. Sure, they would pay a little more for a fantastic player, but not at the expense of the overall team.
    The other thing they do is build for the future. They look at a player, the money he makes, and if that player isn’t playing, or can not, or will not in the future, play to that kind of potential, they will make a move to get something that will help the team.
    In this instance they have an excellent player in Seymour. He has done excellent things for the team, even as recently as last year. However he is getting older, and he has a contract due for next year. Seymour has the rep of holding out until he gets the money he wants, so the Pats, realizing he is likely to decline more in skills and health, likely would not be able to make a deal, but THIS year, he would likely help the team.
    Then the Raiders make an offer (and the Raiders apparently instigated this conversation for some odd reason). The Pats weight the pros and cons. They have a deeply talented defensive line, with some promising rookies and veteran first round picks. Seymour’s back up does very well in his role. Add to that the Pats are moving to more of a 4-3 look. The Raiders offer a 2011 first round pick, likely to be a high pick. There is a good likelihood that there will be a rookie cap in place by then. The Patriots feel they can do well with the players they have, and will greatly benefit in building a team for the future (something they really seem committed to doing). All in all, they decrease their chances for a superbowl this year, as he CAN play, and at a high level. However this deal means that the Patriots will also likely stay competitive in the future, AND they save over 3.5 million in cap space, more than doubling their available cap room IMMEDIATELY. So they can pick up a player/trade, or they can use that money to restructure contracts to keep players around that have contracts coming up this year.
    Cruel and heartless? Not really. Teams do this all the time, and have been doing this all week, in fact. Yet only the Patriots are accused of being heartless and cruel (well, they ARE sending him to the Raiders). Seymour has even commented that he knew he would probably be traded this year, so he saw it coming. What you are really complaining about when you say the Pats are heartless and cruel is that you are upset that the Pats are again competitive and smart, and are likely to remain so for some time, and that is music to the Pat’s fans ears.

  31. He wants a new deal and the Raiders have been working on that, He will be with the Raiders by their Thursday practice with a new contract.

  32. Maybe this is just too hard to pull off, but I would think he’d be smarter to show up and intentionally fail the physical. Pretend he can’t move his arm above his shoulder or something like that.

  33. Tell Tommy Kelly to give back a few millions and hold Seymor’s jack strap while you are at it. Hope RS shows up to teach the DL how to be D linemen. Donkey’s suck too, basement for you guys and Bronco Lame Kiffin clone coach.

  34. Fact is, this trade was bad for both teams. Seymour has been a monster on the NE defense for years. Check out his numbers. He’s not going to be easily replaced, regardless of how any replacement “looked in the preseason”. Seymour was a very smart and talented player.
    Belicheat thinks everything he touches turns to gold. Fact is, he screwed NE when he went for that long 4th down in teh SB. That call lost the SB and Belicheat has lost his touch. Just like the Yankees of the late 90s, Belicheat is getting too cocky and going after too many free agents. The Yankees won most of their early 90s WS with home grown players and throw aways, just like the Patriots did during their SBs. Then the Yankees went after high-profile FAs, as are the Pats and while they are still good, they are not winning Championships.
    Belicheat got super lucky with Brady, had he not made that pick in the 6th round, he would not be able to let WR after WR go. Problem is, he can’t do that with the defense. He’s let Harrison, Vrable, and Seymour go, and Bruski (sp?) retired. That’s not good for a defense that got run over by the Steelers last year (who had a weak O line).
    We’re witnessing the decline of the Pats b/c Belicheat wants to stick it to his players (Seymour held out last time). Sometimes you have to overpay a little to keep the great ones.

  35. The local news just reported that Seymour wants to make sure the Raiders DON’T franchise him next year. Willing to play in the black hole for one year only. He is not seeking a contract extension just a no franchise tag. We’ll have to see what the Raiders do next, Oh and the dreaded 5 day letter.

  36. Why does anyone even trade with the Pats? If theyre getting rid of a player its for good cause. They have never traded anyone away that came back to bite them in the ass. Remember when they wouldn’t pay Deion Branch big dollars and most people couldn’t understand why? Look who was right in the end. the fact of the matter is there is a salary cap in football, and a loaded team like the Pats cant afford to pay everyone. so they take a guy with alot of mileage and trade him for whats sure to be a high first round pick in a year that might actually see a rookie salary cap. Its a smart business move
    This was nothing personal against Seymour. This is business. the Pats were not going to even attempt to sign him after the season. Now they get what could turn out to be a solid player for the next decade in the draft. As far as Seymour goes, grow up and play some football. If you have a great year you can get your mega contract whne your a free agent. I have a funny feeling though that hes going to have a lousy year

  37. C.Bass
    You don’t know your ass from your elbow.
    Seymour hasn’t been to a pro bowl in three years, or all-pro in four. Anybody who watches the Pats can see he is a fraction of his former self. Maybe if he gave a shit about anybody other than Richard Seymour he would put out some effort. If the Pats traded Bruschi when he was 30 half of them would be picketing Foxboro, but for Seymour 75% think it’s a good deal. That should tell even a dimwit like you something.
    And all Belichick has been able to accomplish is getting to 5 AFC Championships in 8 years, four Super Bowls in eight years and winning 4 of the AFC Championships and 3 of the Super Bowls. He coached his team to a 16-0 season just 20 months ago. He went 11-5 last year with 7 starters knocked out by injury on defense and a QB that hadn’t started a game since high school.
    Maybe, he is too cocky, but unlike yourself, he isn’t clueless.

  38. Pats will have huge holes on their D Fense, your welcome AFC East. Raiders get immediate upgrade to D Fense, this cant hurt, can only help. As for Seymour only playing for a few more years, Look at Ellis he’s still playing hard at 33. Seymour is only 29.

  39. He need’s to show up and play, period. It’s clear the Patriot’s have no desire to keep him, and Oakland want’s him. I don’t care about this going from a good team to a bad team talk. That’s all BS. That’s life in the NFL with the large ammount of money these guys make. That’s part of the game.
    Oakland may have a bad rep for many thing’s, some deserved, some not so much. But the one thing that Oakland is consistently good at, is that it takes care of it’s players, sometimes to a fault. He will get a good contract. and he’ll have one hell of a loyal fan base supporting him, win or lose. Which cannot be said with many other NFL teams.
    I understand Oakland has been dismal the last 6 years, but adding players of this caliber is exactly what Oakland needs to get back to being a respectable team. I wish he had the mentality to realize he could help a struggling team return to being contender’s, instead of the easy route riding out the glory of a good team. While the Patriots have been a pretty good team for awhile, they still haven’t captured a ring for what, 5 years. He need’s to man up, and report.

  40. why would any player want to go from the pats to the raiders? that would be like leaving eva longoria for rosie odonnell! if it was me i’d just retire.phuque the raiders!

  41. Seymour is screwed either way. If he goes to the Raiders and performs well, they can franchise him at regular cost and any hope of a ridiculous free agent contract under no cap would be gone.
    If he tanks it, he won’t get the money anyways.
    If he goes back to NE, they can slap him with the “did not show” tag and his contract gets rolled over and he misses a year.
    There simply is NO good option for Richard Seymour.

  42. Seymour won’t be hard to replace.
    First, Richard Seymour is an elite 34 DE when healthy. That translates to a UT/NT hybrid in the 43. However, NE has both a NT and a UT. Plus they have tons of depth on the DL.
    If they actually make the move to the 43 (which it looks like there is a great possibility of it), then they won’t need either a UT or NT.
    Here are the potential NTs and UTs: Jarvis Green, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Ron Brace, Myron Pryor, and Mike Wright.
    Seymour can NOT play DE in a 43. Those guys are faster. Adalius Thomas and Derrick Burgess will likely take starting snaps at DE. Backups could include a number of people. (I’m not going to bore you).
    They concentrate their lack of having 2 great ILBs by just making Jerod Mayo a MLB (what he was in college and what he is in his ideal.)
    The OLB spot is where the trouble will be. I don’t know that NE has true 43 OLBs. I can list a bunch of names, but I’m not sure they can play it. However, they won’t need to.
    All they will have to do is play the 43-under.
    The sky is not falling. Richard Seymour just wasn’t needed and was being payed too much to not be needed.
    This will either be Belichick’s worst move or his best. His Waterloo or his Bunker Hill.
    The only concern I would have is that the 34 traditionally has superior RUN stopping ability (because it imploys a HUGE NT in the middle and two DTs on the edge. then you basically have two very versatile DEs to snipe out running backs and two small DTs with speed to make the tackle if the back goes up the middle). The 43 is traditionally a pass rushing defense. However, most of the teams NE plays this year are running teams.

  43. until seymour goes on record stating his position we all are left guessing.Im a raider fan and I just want this to end either way you dont want to be a raider thats your choice dont take the physical and sit out.we will take our pick back raiders will not give up a pick for one year worth of service you can go hang out with crabtree and parker and watch football on tv like me.

  44. yeah your local news is full of it…there has been so many diffrent reports on this subject no one knows what to think. This is what AL does best, get everyone talking good or bad about the Raiders. He has been doing this since the 60’s and he just loves the free pub…….Listen if seymour reports great. If not the Raider move on. This will be seymours last contract so i assume he wants to be paid, do you really think he cares if he is playing for the Raiders or the Chiefs? NO…just show me the money….This is the NFL and that’s how it goes…

  45. Why does anyone even trade with the Pats? If theyre getting rid of a player its for good cause. They have never traded anyone away that came back to bite them in the ass….
    Deion Branch obviously received too much money from the Seahawks, but the Pats and Brady still could have used him the season that Caldwell and Gaffney were Brady’s #1 and #2 WRs.
    There is no doubt that Seymour can still play at a high level and is better than the multiple guys who will “replace” him, but I can see where it was an offer Belichick could not pass up. And I agree with those who say that Seymour has played his last down with the Pats. Even if he refuses to report to the Raiders, I can’t imagine Belichick will let him back in the Pats locker room this season. Seymour almost certainly either plays for the Raiders this season, or sits out the season and can return to the Pats next season at the same $3.7 million salary (yeah, like that will happen).

  46. descendency says:
    September 9, 2009 2:43 AM
    Seymour won’t be hard to replace.
    First, Richard Seymour is an elite 34 DE when healthy. That translates to a UT/NT hybrid in the 43. However, NE has both a NT and a UT. Plus they have tons of depth on the DL.
    If they actually make the move to the 43 (which it looks like there is a great possibility of it), then they won’t need either a UT or NT.
    Here are the potential NTs and UTs: Jarvis Green, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Ron Brace, Myron Pryor, and Mike Wright.
    Seymour can NOT play DE in a 43. Those guys are faster. Adalius Thomas and Derrick Burgess will likely take starting snaps at DE. Backups could include a number of people. (I’m not going to bore you).
    They concentrate their lack of having 2 great ILBs by just making Jerod Mayo a MLB (what he was in college and what he is in his ideal.)
    The OLB spot is where the trouble will be. I don’t know that NE has true 43 OLBs. I can list a bunch of names, but I’m not sure they can play it. However, they won’t need to.
    All they will have to do is play the 43-under.
    The sky is not falling. Richard Seymour just wasn’t needed and was being payed too much to not be needed.
    This will either be Belichick’s worst move or his best. His Waterloo or his Bunker Hill.
    The only concern I would have is that the 34 traditionally has superior RUN stopping ability (because it imploys a HUGE NT in the middle and two DTs on the edge. then you basically have two very versatile DEs to snipe out running backs and two small DTs with speed to make the tackle if the back goes up the middle). The 43 is traditionally a pass rushing defense. However, most of the teams NE plays this year are running teams.
    —————————
    That’s very detailed, but your facts are wrong.
    Tom Cable has already said that Seymour will start at DE for the Raiders in their 4-3. It’ll be Seymour, Tommy Kelly, Gerard Warren and Greg Ellis along the line.
    The team’s biggest need was a run-stuffing DE as the other options were a 2nd-year guy who’s too light vs. the run and more of a pass-rush specialist and a rookie 3rd rounder who looks pretty good but can’t be counted on just yet.
    So it’s Seymour’s ability to stop the run that interests them most. And I don’t buy the “he’s not fast enough” argument. The guy led the Pats in sacks last season from the 3-4 DE spot. It’s very tough for 3-4 DEs to accumulate a lot of sacks. OLBs almost always lead 3-4 teams in sacks, by a wide margin. Much easier to get after the passer as a 4-3 DE.

  47. Let’s take a look at some Patriots numbers rom past years:
    Quality players that didn’t get paid big $$ in New England and left (via trade or free agency): 5 (Deion Branch, David Givens, Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Damien Woody).
    Combined Super Bowl rings for said players: 0.
    Games Richard Seymour has missed in his first 8 years: 19.
    Patriots’ record in those games and points allowed per game: 15-4, and 18.6.
    Games Seymour has missed in the past two years alone: 8.
    Pats’ record and ppg allowed: 8-0, 15.0.
    And now the Pats, who know there’s a better than even chance of a rookie cap in 2011 (when Brady is 34), have a potential top-5 or top-10 pick that year.
    And let’s not forget what Seymour said right after a reporter asked him a question in regard to taking a “hometown discount” to re-sign with the Patriots: “My hometown is in South Carolina.”
    Seymour has been living off the glory of his first five years, and it’s even more clear that he’s on the proverbial Back Nine.And what are the Patriots supposed to do? Wait for him to become a free agent and receive, at best, a 3rd-rounder as compensation?
    To those of you who even THINK that the Raiders made a good move here, you’re idiots.
    And to those who thought that the Patriots made a bad deal, you may quite possibly be bigger idiots. Especially with the Pats’ obvious depth on the D-line and the addition of Burgess.
    My hunch, since Seymour’s occasional outbursts/blunt statements toward the club, is that this deal has been in the works for nearly two years, and Belichick has simply been waiting for the right offer to materialize.
    In other words, Belichick strikes again.
    Keep hating on the Pats, NFL fans. They still have 3 rings and the best QB/coach in the league — whether you like it or not.
    (P.S. With the possible exception of Jets, Bills and Dolphins fans, why is it that NO ONE hated the Patriots before 2001? … Oh yeah, because they hadn’t won anything yet. Yup, winning sure breeds hatred.)

  48. Maybe Baby Huey aka Seymour better get to practice before he is embarassed out on the field.
    I think he really thinks he doesn’t need to practice. Good riddance.

  49. Seymour is most likely trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. It was nothing more than a business descision. That being said he should look at it from that angle. What I mean is that he is in a business and like any of us there comes a time to move on to something different. He is getting up there in years and in less than a handful he will most likely hang up his cleats. With his knowledge I think he would be an excellent coach or coordinator somewhere.
    With that in mind Richard why don’t you get your resume started NOW. Go to this toliet of a team and clean up the defense for them. Your knowledge, your mindset, your way of doing the right things may, just may be the thing they need to get them back on track there. Think of it, make that cellar dwellar at least have a respectable defense while you are there and that would go a long way to getting a coaching gig a short way down the road. You would have the creditials to back you up then.
    This is a crazy thing that happened to him. I have been a fan of his since he came to the Pats and I still am. I think he has a lot to offer to the game now and going forward
    Wish nothing but the best for you Richard, and hope that you can make something good of what appears to be a bad situation.

  50. “I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t show either if Al put a gun to my head!”
    You’re a clown. You would definitely show up since you’re a football fan. It’s your dream to play pro football.
    “why would any player want to go from the pats to the raiders? that would be like leaving eva longoria for rosie odonnell! if it was me i’d just retire.phuque the raiders!”
    You’d play for the Bucs in the 1980s.

  51. BP, that post was a thing of beauty.
    I was going to point out the obvious flaws in his/her/it’s thinking, but you more than covered it.

  52. Cable’s wording makes it sound like they may be working on a long term deal. Outside of the theories that he does not want to go to Oakland, this makes sense to me. Why pack your family up if you could have to do it again in the offseason? Seems reasonable to me that he would want something long term locked up.

  53. Did anyone ever think the hold up is the 6 million dollars owed to Seymour by the Pats. The Media and some sad ass Raider fans are blamming AL but it has nothing to do with the Raiders. ESPN and NFLN is a joke in the fact checking and the spin opinion as fact because they know most people watching believe it….It’s almost as bad as watching FOX News.

  54. 2006 contract.
    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-p…ct-details.html
    insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid…len&id=2408421
    The total value for four years is $30.026 million.
    Seymour received a $5.34 million signing bonus.
    The first option bonus is for $6.66 million and is payable between Aug. 4 of this year and next March.
    The second of the option bonuses, for $12 million, is due the first week of next March.
    Failure to exercise the options means that Seymour’s base salary for 2007 goes from $600,000 to $19.26 million, all of it guaranteed, and that he becomes an unrestricted free agent after the ’07 season.
    Base Salaries:
    2006-$585,000
    2007-$600,000
    2008-$730,000
    2009-$3.685
    offseason workout bonuses of $106,720 each for 2006-2009.
    The cap charges:
    $4.42 million for 2006 (identical to pre-extension cap charge)
    $8.26 million for 2007,
    $8.391 million for 2008 and
    $11.34 million for 2009

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