Ronde Barber thinks the Tampa media wants the Bucs to fail

So as the 2009 NFL season begins to circle the drain in several NFL cities, one prominent player on one of the struggling teams has taken a page from T.O. — and has taken shots at the media.

Buccaneers cornerback Ronde Barber, in a Tuesday appearance on WDAE radio in Tampa, openly questioned whether the writers covering the team are rooting against the franchise.

Said Barber, via JoeBucsFan.com:  “To our beat guys, ‘Do you just want us to fail?'”

Wow.

Look, here’s the reality.  The media is supposed to be objective.  In some cities, some writers and other reporters abandon objectivity in order to secure and/or to preserve access.  In other cities, some writers and other reporters go in the other direction in the hopes of generating interest via controversy.

But when writers point out the things that make a bad team bad, we’re not sure how it constitutes negativity and/or a desire to see a team fail.

Bottom line for the Bucs?  The team is failing, regardless of the local media’s preferences in this regard.  And the best way to get something positive about the team in print or on the air or glowing from a computer monitor is to do something positive on the field of play.

46 responses to “Ronde Barber thinks the Tampa media wants the Bucs to fail

  1. Well they have a chance to redeem themselves this weekend against the Skins.
    Should be an epic matchup…

  2. You mean like how you report tons of stories on the crimes NFL players commit, but none on their charitable efforts?

  3. The media objective? PLEASE. The media isn’t objective regarding ANYTHING. Politics? NO. Sports? NO. I would be hard pressed to name ONE media outlet/organization that doesn’t slant the news to either antagonize or push their own agenda. Even NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX; did anyone watch the election coverage? They didn’t even try to disguise their leanings. There is no objective “reporting the news” anymore. There is always slant and opinion inserted. Or expressed just by what stories are stressed/reported. Just look at who did and did not run the stories about ACORN. Left leaning organizations didn’t touch it and right leaning ones did. Welcome to main stream media Mr. Florio.

  4. Whinny liberals, whinny football players..enough already. Poor performance is poor performance. Sports, politics or any other walk of life.

  5. Heard his comments. Beginning to think he is much like his brother Tiki.
    What the hell does he want the papers to write about? Nobody has gotten more love over the past 10 years from the media than Barber and the Bucs D.
    Now they’re struggling and he throws a pity party. If they had been able to resign Buchanon, they would have cut Barber with Brooks, June, & Dunn. Maybe they should have.

  6. Keep dragging T.O. into every column that you write, it helps to show how unbiased you are. Primarily on the basis of his actions in Philadelphia, I was convinced that T.O. was a jerk. However, his behavior since joining the Bills clearly shows that I was wrong and he has more integrity than the vast majority of media hacks.

  7. Have you read the articles? I’m okay with pointing out facts & going into details but most of these articles about the Bucs sound like a 7 year old wrote them after his parents took away his birthday. Ronde isn’t usually one to complain, and like other ‘media’ sources I’m sure Florio is just picking the part that causes the most drama & making a story out of nothing.

  8. “Look, here’s the reality. The media is supposed to be objective. In some cities, some writers and other reporters abandon objectivity in order to secure and/or to preserve access.”
    Hm I wonder who that could describe, Florio?

  9. Hey Ronde…thanks for the Super Bowl….this just in…you guys have ALREADY failed…you’re 0-3 for crying out loud. Ever seen the stats on an 0-3 team making the playoffs? The media was totally behind you guys and writing glowing pieces on Raheem and some of the new players ( Leftwich…ugh) so get over it. When you suck, you suck. And you guys suck.

  10. I have been saying this since day 1 of the Raheem Moris era, the first few weeks it was “Raheem is young and he will fail” and yesterday it was “Jon Gruden would win with this team” which we all know is absolute B.S. and the final straw was Steve Duemig stating that Josh Johnson would basically suck horribly at the QB position even though Duemig is too drunk to even know who got him to the studio

  11. Florio,
    Oh, so it is “objectivity” now while they are losing, but how about when they were winning? Have you EVER read any of the trash thrown out by the Tribune, the Times, or your listened to your buddy DUImig in the past decade? The media around absolutely LOVES for the team to do poorly. I can hardly blame them, because the “fans” around here eat it up.
    I have lived here all my life and have been a fan of the Bucs since their inception. I cannot tell if the media reports the way they do because of what the public wants, or if the public acts the way they do because of what the media reports, but there is no question that there is a consistent, deliberate, and historic effort by the local media to convince the Tampa public that the team is doing poorly, or that it will do poorly.

  12. I would think that in this day and age if you are on a team that gets shut out, only amasses 5 first downs, none of them in the first half, and can only muster less then 100 yards of offense while allowing nearing 400…..that you have bigger problems then the media.
    It reminds me of a skit Chris Rock did. That blacks blamed the media for the perception that some blacks were criminals, it was all the medias fault. But that rock had a gun in his house not because of Dan Rather but because of the criminals (yes I very much made it blander then it was).

  13. ZOMG ACORN!!! Scary black people!!!!
    God, what is it with you wingnuts jumping on board any and every website to bitch and moan about your Rush-generated controversy of the day? I’m waiting to see you bitter little shits crash the Babies R Us page to complain that Elmo is representative of the socialist red menace who exists only to indoctrinate our children.
    Don’t you just love how evidenced (and much more widespread) voter fraud in 2000 and 2004 was just conspiracy hogwash and now these same folks (the same who suddenly decided at 12:21pm on 1/20/09 that they dont want to pay taxes and rediscovered this nice little document called The Constitution) are the ones suddenly up in arms about ACORN?
    Keep it up ladies, you’re doing awesome!

  14. To Kidekk: Do you actually mean you spend your day reading internet stories about the benevolence and charity of NFL players? Please, get down off of your soap box. You are making yourself dizzy.

  15. >>> there is no question that there is a consistent, deliberate, and historic effort by the local media to convince the Tampa public that the team is doing poorly, or that it will do poorly.

  16. Guru Gruden says:
    Nobody cares what Obamatrons have to say.
    The Democrat-controlled Congress overwhelmingly defunded ACORN. Rush-generated? ACORN’s too dirty even for the party of unabashed dirtbags. That should tell you something right there. But hey pimpdaddy, they’ll probably still help you get some taxpayer money to buy and stock that whorehouse for pedophiles that you’ve always wanted and even teach you how to launder the proceeds in anticipation of your run for Congress as a Democratic candidate.

  17. Living in the DC area but not being a Redskins fan has offered me the opportunity to objectively view how local media, beat writers, and sports radio treat losing teams. Local media thrives on negativity. Scathing articles get attention. How often do beat writers get attention when they are following winning teams? Never. But many beat writers (and by extension local reporters and sports radio talk show hosts) make a name by excoriating the team, the coaches, and the management. Negativity in reporting sells and you often get a sense listening to beat reporters, local news writers, and sports talk radio hosts that they are gleeful about bad teams.
    Let’s be honest, will you remember the beat writer’s name if he or she writes a straight-forward recap of a victory, a neutral assessment of a loss, or a scathing editorial on the likelihood a coach will get fired midseason or a quarterback benched? You will remember the writer who hits the hardest. And the beat writers know that. They aren’t fans of the team (nor do they have to be). Like anyone in any business they are trying to advance their own careers by making a name for themselves. You do that by hitting hard and turning the attention on yourself. And the easiest way to do that is with a losing team. Beat writers thrive on losing teams.

  18. Heard the his radio appearance yesterday evening, and the point, that I agree whole heartedly with is that the media has always portrayed horror on the horizon even when the team has been winning. His point was actually more to his views on today’s society and the problems facing us as a whole. The whole negativity as a first response, but I digress. We have been a dominant force for over a decade, which is the problem now. We have raised expectations in Tampa. We have as many or more superbowls in the past decade then only two other teams. The Bucs are catching national heat for these very reasons, that’s fine, understandable. However Ronde is correct in his assessment of the doom and gloom men that make up our local media.

  19. Hang in there, Ronde. Some of the most disappointed people in the world reside in Denver. I don’t get it either.

  20. bullet907 :
    How about actually reading what I wrote?
    Let’s go back in time to November of last year (when the Bucs last won a game.) I would have written the EXACT SAME THING in response to this. It has nothing to do with what the media has reported lately specifically.
    If you are going to have a rebuttal, try to at least make it pertinent to what was written.

  21. @tombrookshire
    Yes, just like you go around trolling the internet for crimes committed by NFL players. Not getting on a soap box, just stating a fact. It’s just funny considering the source (Florio).

  22. You are correct that writers frequently mimic cheerleaders to preserve access. The classic example is Comrade BO’s refusal to engage Fox News. He can’t face the truth (although he has no idea how to speak truthfully). Ronde Barber can’t face the truth about the Bucs. The good news for Ronde is he gets McNabb next week so he can have his annual interception returned for a touchdown. Maybe Andy should play Kolb one more week.

  23. It’s true, madpunter nailed it. Wanna know why Tim MacMahon doesn’t write for this site anymore? His never-ending negative fluff pieces about the Cowboys got him a job with ESPNDallas. And it’s a good thing too, because when Romo broke up with Jessica Simpson, MacMahon’s material was cut roughly by two thirds. Check out the DMN’s Cowboys blog, they are all following suit. There’s even one asshat that, upon hearing that Marion Barber was not at the Panthers game but was at another location receiving treatment for his strained quad, thought it would be fun to try to generate a conspiracy theory of exactly WHERE Barber was getting treatment. He wasn’t even informed enough to know that the Cowboys have medical and rehab facilities at Valley Ranch.
    http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/09/so-where-was-marion-barber.html

  24. >>> bullet907 :
    How about actually reading what I wrote? >> >>> there is no question that there is a consistent, deliberate, and historic effort by the local media to convince the Tampa public that the team is doing poorly, or that it will do poorly.

  25. heh heh heh. Ya know what Ronde, you’re right. You know loss-oriented drama sells newspapers and generates page hits. So…
    Congrats to Ronde, you just volunteered yourself to be the target for your own local media. Which is too bad, because you’re actually a really good player.

  26. “Guru Gruden says:
    Nobody cares what Obamatrons have to say.”
    Gosh, what a well-thought, reasoned perspective.

  27. You mean like how you report tons of stories on the crimes NFL players commit, but none on their charitable efforts?

  28. “In other cities, some writers and other reporters go in the other direction in the hopes of generating interest via controversy.”
    In Buffalo, see “Sullivan, Jerry”. That guy hasn’t said anything good about the team since the Flutie era. He’s been responsible for running assistant coaches out of town (Kevin Gilbride comes to mind–he’s not such an idiot when he has actual talent around him), players out of town, and in general, it about the most negative beat writer I’ve read from any town. He belongs in NYC. His hatred for Dick Jauron is almost legendary. You wonder if Dick screwed his wife or something. Not that Jauron should be defended for his game mismanagement (particularly as it relates to the clock), but his continued insistence (for several years now) that the team’s choice to kickoff when they win the toss (something 75% or more of the NFL does) instead of receive is just plain petty. There are plenty of things to criticize Dick about, but that is NOT one of them. But it demonstrates Sullivan’s petty attitude towards anyone in the Buffalo sports scene that dares to question his alleged “deep” knowledge of the game–which is about as strong as that of a casual fan that’s never played the game, and thinks their experience in Madden video games makes them an authority on the NFL. It’s ridiculous. It’s little wonder he’s stuck in a small market, covering an underachieving team. No need to have rose colored glasses, but his petty grudges against players and coaches gets OLD very fast.

  29. “Look, here’s the reality. The media is supposed to be objective.” Supposed to be objective is right, but way too often they are like PFT- vehicles for someone’s opinion, too given to sensationalizing things.
    This article would have been infinitely better had Florio linked to some TB writers to illustrate his point. Help his readers understand the situation and Florio’s stand. Instead we get another minimum effort post…

  30. SmackMyVickUp says:
    September 30, 2009 10:44 AM
    You mean like how you report tons of stories on the crimes NFL players commit, but none on their charitable efforts?
    ——-
    I always feel like…..
    Somebody’s waaatchin’ meeeeeeeee

  31. Ronde Barber lost me when he trashed Eli Manning for no reason. I no longer respect his opinion about anything.

  32. Guru Gruden says:
    September 30, 2009 9:43 AM
    “Elmo is representative of the socialist red menace who exists only to indoctrinate our children. ”
    Elmo is a commie? Burn him!
    I’m paraphrasing a Tony Kornhole quote from his radio show a few years ago.
    “You root for the team to either be terrible or great, because that gives you stories, it’s the 8-8 and 9-7 years that you hate.”
    Look, nobody is objective, 24 hour TV and internet news has killed that. They are all just trying to sell air time.
    By the way, ESPN is the 33rd team in the NFL. The Dallas Cowboys, Both New york teams and what ever roster Vick and Favre are on play them every week.

  33. Ronde’s only partially right– its Bucs’ owners and management who want to fail– for one year at least– and then persuade one of the maquee coaches out there (Holmgren, Shanahan, Cowher) to come on board. How else can you explain appointing as HC someone who other teams wouldn’t even appoint as DC? Morris is WAY out of his depth. A prediction: Tuna back to coaching one last time in Tampa Bay to make them respectable for Mega $$$$. He must be getting sick of the Landshark meltdown.

  34. VoxVeritas says:
    Blah, Blah, Blah
    Seeryer says:
    ACORN received $53 million in taxpayer funds over the past 15 years. Blackwater defrauded the US gov of $55 million in just the past 5 years. The reason right wingers like yourself want to take down ACORN is because they support minimum wage and living wage ordinances. And right wingers hate fairness for people that aren’t rich. ACORN had a few low level employees give bad advice and it was recorded undercover. That is not a scandal. Defruading the US government systematically for years by companies set up by ideological soulmates of the Republican Party to privatize all things possible is a scandal. I know those companies are set up to help kill Muslims and not set up to help poor and working class Americans so I can understand your outrage towards ACORN and its $2.5 million in annual taxpayer funds but no concern for the billions per year Halliburton and Blackwater have in contracts with the state dept., CIA and the Pentagon. You are a dope with zero critical thinking skills.

  35. Ronde is starting to sound like his brother what was his name again?
    Oh yeah tiki the guy that now has to interview Eli and tell him what a great job he is doing as a team leader.
    Anyone who lives in the NJ NY area know that Tiki throw Eli under the bus and drove over him daily now Tiki is a hack for NBC and has to kiss Eli’s ass
    Soon Ronde will be doing the farm reports on local raidio.

  36. “The reason right wingers like yourself want to take down ACORN”
    I didn’t defund ACORN. It was the Democrat-controlled Congress that overwhelmingly recognized that ACORN is a criminal organization that’s rife with fraud and defunded them.
    “ACORN had a few low level employees give bad advice and it was recorded undercover. That is not a scandal.”
    Oh no, of course not. That’s why the Democrat-controlled Congress and Obama, who is just left of Karl Marx and no stranger to corruption (being from the birthplace of corrupt politics, Chicago, and a product of the Daley political crime family, student of Saul Alinsky, and parishioner of Rev. Wright’s United Church of God DAMN America), are NOT distancing themselves from ACORN.
    But wait, that’s exactly what they’re doing. Nope, no scandal here, folks! Move along, nothing to see here.

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