Redskins rule: Fans can't bring signs to games

The Washington Redskins haven’t just stripped head coach Jim Zorn of the ability to call the plays. They’ve also stripped their fans of the ability to bring signs to FedEx Field.

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post reports that the Redskins have issued a blanket policy that no fans are permitted to enter the stadium with signs of any kind. This is a new policy — a few weeks ago the team banned only inappropriate and offensive signs — but a Redskins spokesman told the Post he wasn’t sure when or why the policy changed.

The official word from the team is that signs and banners can’t be permitted in the stadium because they could obstruct fans’ views, and the team even says spectators could be injured
by signs. But it’s hard not to think the Redskins made this policy because they
anticipate large numbers of fans bringing signs to the stadium that criticize the team and owner Daniel Snyder.

Whatever the reasons for the policy, the result — as Steinberg documents — is that a number of fans who didn’t know about the policy were forced to throw their signs away before they could enter Monday night’s game against the Eagles. Among the signs that security personnel wouldn’t allow in the stadium was one that said, “Hi to my husband in Afghanistan. Love you.” Steinberg fished that one — and several others — out of a trash can outside FedEx Field.

Obviously, not every sign is going to be as heart warming as a message to a soldier overseas — one fan was removed from the stadium for a decidedly more negative banner — but the bottom line for the Redskins is that they’ve decided they don’t want their fans expressing any opinion in a way that can easily be picked up by TV cameras. It’s probably safe to say the Redskins wouldn’t have a problem with signs in the stands if they didn’t have so many problems on the field.

73 responses to “Redskins rule: Fans can't bring signs to games

  1. The Pats do this also or at least they have in the past. I haven’t tried it in a year or two since they made me leave my banner featuring a giant sandwich for Mangini at the entrance.

  2. No 1st amendment in Daniel Snyder land. You pay the ticket price..you sit there watch the Redskins get smacked, and you better not express displeasure or anger with them. Just give your money and STFU. Nice going Washington.

  3. Excellent move! This will take care of all the Skins problems, they’re Super Bowl bound baby.

  4. As a Skins fan living in downtown Baltimore it becomes harder and harder to continue to support the skins.
    From the owner down the Ravens are a better franchise, even without comparing on field results.
    Combine that with the fact that their stadium is 10x more fun than FedEx and I just don’t know how much longer I can hold out.

  5. Why would someone pay the team to voice their displeasure over that team? It seems like a better alternative is to do like the Lions/Jaguars/Bills and just not show up.

  6. Can you at least bring in brown paper bags to wear over your head because the teams sucks so bad?

  7. Thank goodness it’s week 16. Only have a another week…wut?
    It’s week 8 this week? My goodness Charlie Brown. Me thinks Danny Boy has a long season ahead.

  8. I would love to see attendance start to decrease dramatically out there. At least when the Lions were horrible paper bags, Fire Millen shirts, etc were not banned from the stadium. I would think this would just fire up Skins fans even more.

  9. Good job Mr Snyder.
    Just stomp away on the United States First Amendment Right to Free Speech. That will endear the Washington DC fans even more to your teams operating practices in a losing season…

  10. This organization is a joke. I feel sorry for all of the die hard Redskins fans. They deserve a good team.

  11. The official word from the team is that signs and banners can’t be permitted in the stadium because they could obstruct fans’ views…
    Who wants to see that anyway? I guess the same people who stop to look at car wrecks!

  12. I guess when your in washington free speech goes out the window. Snyder must take his lessons from Obama.

  13. Dan Snyder=Commodus from Gladiator. He is a douche of the highest order.
    I am embarrassed to be a Redskins fan and I have never felt like that, even in the mid-90s when we were 4-12 and 3-13 back to back. The class that once personified the Redskins is gone. People are being threatened with having their season tickets revoked for chanting “Sell the Team.” FedEx Field is the worst game day experience in the NFL. I will not spend a solitary dollar with any Dan Snyder ventures until he either sells the team or changes his tactics.

  14. Not only do you pay outrageous ticket prices only to be stripped of your 1st amendment rights, but you can also be sued by the wonderful Mr. Snyder if you lose your job and in turn lose your ability to afford your season tickets. What a wonderful organization he operates. BOHICA D.C. – Bend over here it comes again.

  15. @ Leto II
    I live between DC and Baltimore and the local morning sports show, Sports Junkies on WJFK The Fan, had a caller saying when he and his son(both Skins fans) went to the KC game his son wore a bag over his head. When EXITING Fed-X Field, a group of security guards stopped them and TOOK the bag off the child’s head.
    Is Danny-boy starting his own 3rd Reich??
    I think it’s funny how the fans blame the owner…yet line up like mindless zombies to pay high ticket prices for such an inferior product! Kind of like Dallas fans….HIYOOOOO!!!

  16. I hate when the NFL and teams do this stuff….
    When in Green Bay I thought it was clever and amazing that they were actually providing signs for fans to make their own signs at games. The signs were sponsored by Khols so I’m assuming it was all free aswell…

  17. I know why Snyder is doing this. When they unveiled Brian Mitchell’s name in the Ring of Honor, there was a “Snyder Sucks” sign right above it on TV. The little guy must have been enraged!

  18. We had letters spelling B-I-N-G-O-! Are you joking me? We spent 2 hours making letters each of us could hold up in front of our body.
    Skins will drowned in their own sea of mediocrite (sp?). We are the butt of every joke and i can’t where my colors proud because all the other fans jsut tell me how much of a dickhead the owner is and how bad Vinny sucks.
    I am done standing up for the skins. they do nothing in return but produce a piss poor product and has obviously given up all hope for a successful season. It’s not even November yet and our season is over.
    The game blew, the skins blew and the ownership dropped the ball once again. Its painful to think my girlfriends grandfather was so proud of these tickets he worked so hard to earn (9 in a row, 6th row) his entire life. The family has had them for over 30 years now. i Never met the man but from what I understand, good thing he passed because he would be one of the first to shove those things right up Danny’s ass!
    Hail Sucka!

  19. @Leto_II
    Actually you can’t bring brown bags into the stadium. A local radio station in DC (106.7 The Fan) – the Sports Junkies more specifically – handed out a couple thousand brown bags to fans headed to the stadium for the Buccaneers game I believe and apparently security was making people throw them away before they could even get in the stadium. And if you managed to sneak it through security, and put it on during the game, security and the ushers pounced on you like a terrorist trying to light your shoe on fire and confiscated the bags.
    The Sports Junkies are awesome and are hysterical to listen to when they rant about the Redskins and Dan Snyder – Florio actually goes on their show from time to time

  20. “a few weeks ago the team banned only inappropriate and offensive signs — but a Redskins spokesman told the Post he wasn’t sure when or why the policy changed.”
    Because they discovered that virtually all of the signs were inappropriate and offensive?
    I mean, there’s only so many ways to say “Snyder sucks the sweat off a dead man’s balls”, and do it tastefully.

  21. Re: Obstructing fans view…
    Snyder is the same assclown who added a ton of “obstructed view” seats to the stadium to make more money. Some of them are literally behind concrete columns.

  22. this is like a page out of Bush’s life. what happens in washington stays in washington?

  23. # COWBOY21 says: October 27, 2009 3:43 PM
    “I guess when your in washington free speech goes out the window. Snyder must take his lessons from Obama.”
    ——————-
    Laughable. The last “regime” would have you arrested and detained without any due process whatsoever. You lost more rights under “W” & Cheney than in any time in modern history.
    Are all you southern rednecks dittoheads?

  24. Although this is bad timing for Daniel Snyderburg. I am in agreeance that signs should not be allowed into stadiums. Who wants to sit behind some unoriginal turd with a big piece of cardboard that he feels inclined to hold up the whole game hoping to get on the jumbo screen for 4 seconds so he can tell his kids, his kids kids…and so on.
    If that is the highlight of your life why dont you do the world a favor and swan dive off the back of the stadium

  25. I am waiting for the day someone sues a team, or the NFL, for violation of free speech.
    Last I checked, Fedex Field was 30% privately funded, making it a public venue.

  26. I will never forget when Snyder first bought the team. The Steelers were beating them and Myron Cope was all wound up on the radio doing his routine and calling them the redfaces like Cope would do. Snyder sent one of his flunkies to the booth and told Cope to knock it off. It was the only time I ever heard Myron Cope at a loss for words. He couldn’t believe it.

  27. Snyder pulled this one from Tom Donahoe, circa 2005.
    Donahoe had his security goons ripping any sign that was negative of his reign of terror.

  28. Lurie does this in Philly too… While you Skins fans are our arch enemies, here’s how you handle it… technically there’s no 1st amendment issue here since it’s a private facility; therefore you use all other ways to refer to him in a negative light… Here , for instance, in any posting in the local papers, and on the Birds website, people purposely call him “Laurie”, we know that’s not how his name is spelled , we just do it to portray him in a negative light. The local radio is a good place to vent, sports stations that aren’t in his pocket ( whatever radio station in Washington that broadcasts the game is in his pocket) will be happy to listen to what an awful owner he is. When there is an event at the stadium, if he’s introduced , let him have it. Numerous Eagles have been cheered at all kinds of Alumni events etc., Banner and Lurie ALWAYS get booed. Also, now that your season’s over, don’t patronize events sponsored by the Redskins, don’t spend money on apparel at their stores, don’t go to their charity events. Also , banners are all good OUTSIDE the stadium, make sure there’s a TV camera that can see it. This issue has always been a hot button for me; the owners want to ignore the fans, then when they get an untoward reaction they act like they didn’t do anything wrong.

  29. snyder would have a far worse problem if the seats werent filled by fools. cheering the skins on until late in the game. cheering for a totally useless team who didnt have a prayer to either win or make the playoffs.
    snyder desreves many empty seats that tv cameras cant avoid or this garbage will continue for years and coachs to come.

  30. That stadium was looking very empty by the 4th quarter. As long as Skins fans start voting with their wallets, Snyder won’t have a choice but face his own reflection.
    That analogy to Commodus is an insult to Commodus. Try Napoleon on for size.

  31. Good thing this happened to Florio’s superbowl pick.
    If Jerry Jones banned signs (which he’d never do), there’d be seventeen PFT stories today about it, proclaiming how the NFL as we know it was ending.

  32. Laughable. The last “regime” would have you arrested and detained without any due process whatsoever. You lost more rights under “W” & Cheney than in any time in modern history.
    Are you libs morons?? Talk about citizens losing say Bush was bad enough, but Obama hiring CZARS to look at regulating internet (1st amend), pay compensation (fre market society), further limiting Health Insurance…CMON MORON..all POLITICIANS are alike!!! Some are more bold because they get a free pass others use war to limit stuff.
    BACK TO FOOTNBALL: I feel bad skins fans, my mother is a huge Redskin fan and is disgusted finally. Skins fans are some of the most loyal and football savvy fans in the country..they dont deserve SNYDER!!!

  33. “the team even says spectators could be injured by signs.”
    HOW!?
    Somebody run the numbers on “sign related injuries.” I’m sure it’s right up there with skunk bites and cordless phone stranglings.

  34. Last year after the Redskins beat the Cowboys in Dallas to improve their record to 3-1 there was a live camera in the Redskins locker room as the players came in after the game.
    And there was Daniel Snyder strutting about and barking in a booming voice – as if he had actually PLAYED in the game – “DO YOU SEE WAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PLAY PHYSICAL? WE WIN!!!”
    I always think of that scene whenever I see Snyder …. whenever I see Jerry Jones too.

  35. “Here , for instance, in any posting in the local papers, and on the Birds website, people purposely call him “Laurie”, we know that’s not how his name is spelled , we just do it to portray him in a negative light.”
    I’m sure he cries himself to sleep every night over that one. Who are you… vox?

  36. daffy87 says:
    October 27, 2009 3:33 PM
    No 1st amendment in Daniel Snyder land
    ——————————-
    *Sigh*
    I knew SOMEONE would make a dumbass first amendment comment. I hoped it would be outside of the top 5 at least.
    I don’t know why they even bother TRYING to teach the Constitution in school when sooooo many people don’t understand that this amendment ONLY APPLIED TO THE GOVERNMENT. PRIVATE CITIZENS AND ORGANIZATIONS CAN DO ANYTHING THEY LIKE TO MUFFLE PEOPLE. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, DON’T GO TO REDSKIN GAMES.

  37. Hey AirlineGuy where are your good friend stories on google by reporters who were in the war room about how Jones told Parcells to take Ware over Spears?
    Time to pony up or shut up kid…

  38. I don’t understand how an owner can ban signs because they might, “obstruct a fans view,” yet he sells tickets that are obstructed view seats. How ironic!? I am sure he is a really nice guy behind the scenes.

  39. tbtsm15, Bills fans show their displeasure by not showing up? Ha!
    We’ve sold out every game this season, and almost every game in the past decade.
    We’re possibly the most loyal fans in the league, but nice try.

  40. Captain Obvious you are absolutely correct!
    If Red Necked Republicans want to see a real example of Free Speech restrictions all one has to do is watch Fox “News” when they have a Democrat on.
    They’ll ask for his opinion, then 5 Republicans will beat the tar out of him with their microphones before he has an opportunity to reply.

  41. Maybe they plan on being like the WWE and placing premade signs throughout the stadium so fans just have to pick up and wave…

  42. Florio, are you a scientologist or are you just afraid of being sued by them? I noticed you rejected my comment noting how members like snyder try to suppress any criticism directed at themselves.

  43. You can’t bring in signs to Giants Stadium either. I think it’s a good idea… Who wants to sit behind some idiot holding up a sign all day… Anyway, I’m sure Skins fans love to have just another reason to fuel their hate for Snyder

  44. Picking on the skins has become the equivalent of Picking on the mentally challenged kid at school. They didn’t need signs at the game all you had to do was watch pre-game show where ESPN first showed Fat Albert off the field on all of his TOYs (boats, 4 wheelers, etc.) that Belt Buckle boy bought for him. After the break they showed the bingo hall gang, mostly grandmothers, who played with Sherm Lewis before he left to call plays for the redskins. Add that to Sal Pal interviewing Vinnie pre-game and it made the team look like the JOKE that is has become. I just wish I would have bet 10K on eagles rather than my measly 100.
    Again, for all the poor redskins fans with an IQ the better NFL product is only a couple of more minutes up 95 from Raljohn. Take the ride up to the Ravens nest where you can have greattime tailgating, see a compettive team and give your money to an Owner who Likes YOU!

  45. Hey Florio,
    get some info on the redskins suing season ticket holders who coudlnt hold up thei r10 year contracts
    Dan Snyder is a fool. For every redskins fan he loss, the ravens just get another.

  46. Laughing all the way up I95. What a joke the Redskins have become. They need to put a sign on Dan Snyders reserved parking space that you cannot buy championships…a lesson he has failed to learn since purchasing the Skins and running his favorite team and once proud franchise in to the ground, making them the laughingstock of the NFL. Hey at least they lost to a team that had a win last night so maybe things are looking up.

  47. emoser: My point is ( internet tends to ask satire to an extent) is that there is nothing you can do to change the ownership; the team is like a money printing press to them; you’re right , they don’t give a f*** what you think; so you might as well just enjoy giving them off the cuff , sophomoric crap whenever you can…Let’s face it, there’s no way he’s ever selling the team , and unlike the Al Davis situation, the Grim Reaper isn’t going to help you guys out anytime soon, so making an ass out of Snyder may give you guys some satisfaction until he gets up off his rear end and hires at least one competent football guy…BTW, media outlets here have stated in the past that Jeff Lurie is less than thrilled that he is portrayed in Philly as an effete , spoiled rich kid who never had to work a day in his life, and has never said/done anything significant in the 16 years he’s owned the club.

  48. oh joy ballhawk1 wants to turn this into a political discussion. Try injecting some football into the discussion.
    I live in Northern VA, and I heard a story this morning from a co-worker where he couldn’t give away club level tickets to last nights game. Snyder will feel the pain next year when the season tickets are not renewed. That team is terrible

  49. Liberals,
    leave your code pink panties that are always in a knot, out of the football discussions and go get me a beer.

  50. This thread is no longer about politics. Now it’s about chili dogs.
    You may begin.

  51. Why is this news?? I am a Redskins season ticket holder and signs haven’t been allowed for years because of blocking other people’s views……

  52. ham1
    Ask your boyfriend to get you one. We are all aware that Repubs have closet tendencies. You probably fruit your Blue Moons right?

  53. # The Jimmy says: October 27, 2009 4:10 PM
    “…It was the only time I ever heard Myron Cope at a loss for words. He couldn’t believe it…”
    I remember once during one of the old Steelers-Oilers playoff rivalry, where in the middle of a game that the Steelers were winning big, Myron screamed “F***in’ Houston’s been knocked flat!” Everybody watching in the room suddenly got quiet and all looked at each other wondering “did he really say that??”. Finally after about two full minutes, Jack Fleming started back up again, but we didn’t hear a peep outta Myron for maybe 10 more. Somebody upstairs was chewing his ass out probably. 😉

  54. WVUG: You too are a MORON!! I was responding to another poster making it political……When you read a post about not allowing signs or bags that is all about politics, the constitution, and government to begin with……..Voicing a stupid statement even though it makes sense to you is still stupid. Maybe you should read the entire post before you run yopur mouth as many others were making this a political discussion first…….

  55. Bringing signs to their games is un-necessary and redundant. After all, the signs are already there and so obvious even Helen Keller can see them.

  56. “Are you libs morons?? Talk about citizens losing say Bush was bad enough, but Obama hiring CZARS to look at regulating internet (1st amend), pay compensation (fre market society), further limiting Health Insurance…CMON MORON..all POLITICIANS are alike!!! Some are more bold because they get a free pass others use war to limit stuff.”
    Funny how both Bushes had “Drug Czars” and none of you yokels gave a shit. Huh. It’s almost like you just don’t know what you’re talking about.
    “Liberals,
    leave your code pink panties that are always in a knot, out of the football discussions and go get me a beer.”
    One of the funniest angles of the internet is the crowd that likes to strut around and spout shit that they would never, ever say in the real world.

  57. Billhawk 1
    Are you libs morons?? Talk about citizens losing say Bush was bad enough, but Obama hiring CZARS to look at regulating internet (1st amend), pay compensation (fre market society), further limiting Health Insurance…CMON MORON..all POLITICIANS are alike!!! Some are more bold because they get a free pass others use war to limit stuff.
    Its obvious you or the people you listen to are morons. 1) John McCain is trying to pass legislation to regulate the internet. It would allow internet service providers decide what is appropriate content. 2) compensation should be controlled by the government when we have to give the wall street scammers 750 Billion in taxpayer funds to keep the economy from collapsing. 3) Health Insurance reform is about expanding access to health care and containing costs. It’s not about proping up the current system of monopolies that keep raising prices while limiting access.
    And this blog should be about Snyder ruining the skins and not politics.

  58. So Snyder and his Hollywood friends and yes men are sitting around the meeting room trying to figure out why they can’t win a game and they come up with banning all signs because signs are dangerous. Maybe some day they will get around to actually fielding a team with coaches that call plays and junk like that.

  59. I think we’re all even landing political jabs. But in my defense some Repub started it with an Obama comment. They ALWAYS start it with an Obama comment. Then when one of us responds they go directly to challenging our manhood.
    Better game planning than Gilbride.

  60. “Snowman2008 says:
    October 27, 2009 8:53 PM
    I think we’re all even landing political jabs. But in my defense some Repub started it with an Obama comment. They ALWAYS start it with an Obama comment.”
    Umm….I don’t care. I really don’t.
    But don’t act like it wasn’t the exact same when Bush was in office.

  61. It wasn’t exactly the same. Dems typically don’t challenge Repub’s manhood. We’re too secure in ours to even think of doing that.
    Mostly we challenge Repub’s priorities. And the one we challenge the most is money over lives, and quality of life.
    Repubs think people who care about people (and other species also) aren’t behaving like real men. I don’t know how woman look at them. Better to ask one.

  62. “Snowman2008 says:
    October 27, 2009 10:07 PM
    It wasn’t exactly the same. Dems typically don’t challenge Repub’s manhood. We’re too secure in ours to even think of doing that.”
    You said, and I quote “But he started it.”
    That was what I was taking issue with. Grow up.

  63. Lurie and the Eagles started a no signs policy years ago (end of the Ray Rhodes era, I think) when the Birds were consistently vomitous. I still kinda miss those “end zone THAT WAY” (with an arrow) signs…
    and now for something completely different…
    “Are you libs morons?? Talk about citizens losing say Bush was bad enough, but Obama hiring CZARS to look at regulating internet (1st amend), pay compensation (fre market society), further limiting Health Insurance…CMON MORON..all POLITICIANS are alike!!! Some are more bold because they get a free pass others use war to limit stuff.”
    WTF???!!! I get that you’re a rightwingnut, but, seriously dude, as a native born American I don’t want you coming on here spewing your Martian bs!
    If you’re gonna try to argue (politics, football, whatever) at least use the English language, not some degenerate Fox Newspeak.
    “Liberals,
    leave your code pink panties that are always in a knot, out of the football discussions and go get me a beer.”
    Good God in the foothills, where to begin… Shouldn’t your weird @ss be posting on Free Republic or something?
    I love football, but I can’t help but be dismayed by the number of fans who are knuckle dragging, language mangling, reality denying, know nothing IDIOTS!

  64. There is always some igorant idiot who brings up politics. Leave morons. I live in Washington D.C. and have several friends who are Skins fans, I feel so bad for them I can’t even give them a hard time anymore, and I am a Cowboys fan. The problem is the seats are already sold. It doesn’t matter how many people show up, and if you watch thier games there are plenty of empty seats, because Snyder already got his money or will sue season ticket holders for any unpaid money. The organization is in complete disaster and the sad thing is that Snyder is too arrogant to get it.
    Stop comparing them the the Cowboys, win or lose the Cowboys at least put on a show. The Redskins looked terrible Monday night.

  65. this reeks of communism…. in our nation’s capitol.
    nice.
    In Soviet DC, signs hang you!

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