Firing of Lambeau Field worker could grease skids for McCarthy

During the offseason, a game day employee at Lincoln Financial Field lost his job after badmouthing the Eagles on his Facebook page.  Despite the fact that Dan Leone had no defense to the reality that he foolishly posted for the world to see a message including the “F” word and calling the team “retarted” for allowing safety Brian Dawkins to sign with a new team, the move created a flood of local sympathy for the fired employee.

More recently, the Packers abruptly fired a 22-year member of the Lambeau Field maintenance crew, but not for using bad language or calling anyone “retarted” or saying anything in any forum that anyone other than coach Mike McCarthy would hear.

According to Don Walker of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Wood saw McCarthy at Lambeau Field on the Thursday before the pressure-packed visit from Brett Favre and the Vikings, on November 1.

Wood says that he yelled to McCarthy, “Hey coach, let’s get the boys ready to kick some butt this weekend.”

The next day, Wood showed up for work.  Nothing was said to him.

On the day of the game, Wood learned that he had been fired.  He was told that McCarthy heard him say, “Don’t lay an egg.”

Um, where do we start?

First, if McCarthy was sufficiently worried in the three days before the biggest game at Lambeau Field since the Ice Bowl about some guy telling him not to “lay an egg” that it caused McCarthy to find out who said it and to have the guy fired, then maybe McCarthy wasn’t as focused on getting himself and the team ready for the game as he should have been.

Second, the fact that McCarthy would have Wood fired shows that the coach’s thick flesh is covered by ridiculously thin skin.

Third, at a time when the locals already are clamoring for Jon Gruden or Mike Holmgren or Mike Shanahan or any Mike not named McCarthy to be coaching the team in 2010, this is the kind of thing that can strike a chord with the people who made the Packers what they are.

McCarthy isn’t one of them.  He’s a Pittsburgh guy.  A transplant.  A carpetbagger.  Sure, he spent one season a decade ago in Green Bay as an assistant coach, but he’s not a native son.

And here’s the most obvious question the native sons and daughters will be asking:  Why not meet with the guy and hear his side of the story?  Maybe Wood
is telling the truth.  Maybe McCarthy, his blood pressure likely sky
high as his plan to nudge Favre into retirement was about to explode once and for all, didn’t accurately hear what Wood said.

Really, why would a 22-year employee be stupid enough to disrespect the
head coach of the team to his face?  Plenty of folks write stupid
things on web sites and blogs.  But most of us adopt some semblance of
common sense and civility when dealing with other people directly. 

So look for the storm clouds to continue to gather around McCarthy.

And look for him to hear things on Sunday at Lambeau Field far more profane and pointed than “don’t lay an egg.”

122 responses to “Firing of Lambeau Field worker could grease skids for McCarthy

  1. If this story is true. What a douche mccarthy is.
    Poor Mumbles feelings were hurt by such a tame comment?
    You can’t say something like that to the HC?
    Give me a break.
    The team has no discipline, no leadership, no direction and most of all no heart.
    Shit rolls downhill Pack fans. You are stuck with these 2 turds for awhile.

  2. I can’t believe this team is struggling under such great leadership. I think the “Don’t lay an egg” he heard was the collective voice of the 70,000 and change set to attend that Sunday’s game.
    This lack of focus by the head coach goes a long way in explaining why Green Bay is so undisciplined and highly penalized. The Packers are starting to make the Browns look like a top notch organization.

  3. Florio you’re obviously trying to fan some flames but I find it very hard to believe that the reason for the firing stemmed from that comment. The fired employee is the only quoted source in the story.

  4. This is really disappointing. That type of behavior is very immature. I hope the Packers clean house after this season, Holmgren as GM and Gruden as a coach would be a dream scenario.

  5. Is it me, or do “kick some butt this weekend” and “don’t lay an egg” sound NOTHING alike?
    If I went up to the CEO of the company I work for and said “try not to run us in to the ground”, I’d be fired.
    That being said, without some eye witnesses, how do you justify it?

  6. Favre has done his part. Showed those two guys up bad. Now the GB fans need to do theirs. Get McCarthy and Thompson out of there. I have never rooted against the Pack since Favre got there a while back. But recently I do root against their management, not the team, and not the fans. Smug, arrogant, but can’t back it up at all.

  7. Just like this crappy organization to kick a loyal guy out the door after years and years of service (remind you of anyone else?). Except this guy was probably working for peanuts b/c he loved the team so much. Now the poor dude is scrambling for a job to feed his kids b/c McFatty didn’t like what he heard.
    Just shows the arrogance this entire team! They deserve their losing record. Disgusting.

  8. I can’t believe he would have a kid fired for saying “don’t lay an egg”, even if that is what actually said.
    What a douche.

  9. Maybe somehow that made McCarthy feel powerful and in control, but everyone knows he doesn’t have that same control on the football field.
    Maybe that kid can get a job at Club 56 in downtown GB as a bouncer or something, oh never mind, much like Nick Barnett’s football skills, his club folded a while ago and is going to public auction soon.
    Or perhaps he can get a job as a dishwasher at Vikings QB Brett Favre’s steakhouse in GB. At least there he will have a chance to succeed.

  10. Seriously Florio, I realize you’re looking to put content on your page but this kind of stuff doesn’t constitute anything worthwhile. Stick to actual news. This would be like saying that Mike Singletary’s job is on the line after word got out that a lady who sells hot dogs at the stadium was let go. Leave this kind of thing to the message board crazies who sit online and speculate crazy scenarios about ever little thing. This is why you’re getting called out on national radio programs.

  11. McCarthey, yet again shows his brilliance. Too bad his teasm went out and laid that egg. There needs to be at least two more firings at GB. MM & TT need to be gone, escorted from the building, admittance cards burned, parking spots paved over, offices sanitized, toilets in their offices need to be removed & replaced, no evidence that they were ever at Lambeau field.
    Their names ned to be removed form any & all written histories of the Green Bay Packers.
    What they have done to this franchise is criminal. To call them cretins would be an insult to cretins

  12. Reminds me of the movie “The Running Man”..
    the old janitor accidently hits the shoes of the TV show host. The host acts like it’s no big deal, then when he’s out of ear shot the host tells his lacky that “if the janitor is still working here in the morning, you won’t be”….. for some reason I could see McCarthy saying something like that.

  13. Whatever happened to the right to free speech? Arent you guys supposed to have all that freedom that, you think, the rest of the world are so jealous about? 😛

  14. Biggest Game in Lambeau since the cliche/ Ice Bowl game? Hardly. ANY playoff game would have been bigger. There has been two championship games played there since “The Ice Bowl” please explain yourself Mike. I am embarrased for you.

  15. They’re just trying to get younger on the maintenance staff. I wonder what street free agents are available.

  16. Wow ,, I can’t wait for the Cowboys to go to Crappy AS# Lambeau field and dominate theses looser’s.
    P.S. They Are Who We Thought We Were.!!!!!

  17. There are always (always!) two sides to every story, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But if this guy said anything whatsoever of a derogatory nature to the head coach, he should be shown the door. I don’t care how (sympathetically) far down the food chain he is. It would be like me saying to my employer…”Things are too tough to pay bonuses this year but you don’t seem to be eating any less.” Hit the road Jack.

  18. There’s part of me that wants to give McCarthy the benefit of the doubt and think that maybe someone else went and complained about this alleged comment, but either way it’s certainly one of the d00shiest things I’ve heard in a while. What a complete lack of class.

  19. Classy.
    Maybe McCarthy thought he said, “Hey coach, ship’s ahoy! Ready to **** some butt this weekend?”

  20. Please bring back Holmgren. Please please please!
    Its a sad day when I want my team to lose a few more embarrassing games so that McCarthy and Thompson can get canned.
    The organization needs to clean house of these average coaches and a GM who isn’t as good as he thinks in the draft.
    Its sad that McCarthy will have the balls to punish a field employee for making a statement but won’t punish his players for stupid penalties or unnecessary head butts that COST US GAMES!

  21. That was weak. Wouldn’t it be ironic if McCarthy joined him in the unemployment line at the end of the season?

  22. Hey Florio,
    “don’t lay an egg!”
    hahahahahahahahahahahah! McCarthy’s an idiot. Feel bad for GB fans.

  23. Puzzled by one sentence, “Maybe Wood is telling the truth”. Not clear what this refers to – has he denied saying the “egg” part? Thanks –

  24. Seriously, no where in here did it say McCarthy had a problem with the grounds crew dude or ANYTHING he said…
    I want Mikey MushMouth gone as much as anyone, but don’t you think it’s more likely that his boss caught wind of the comment through his co-workers??

  25. how about one more – what if the worker did actually say “don’t lay an egg.” – is that really a fireable offense? mccarthy and the packers should be ashamed for themselves and really embarrassed over this. and you make a great point – what does it say about mccarthy that in the days leading up to this extremely important game, at least some of his focus was on getting a guy fired.

  26. Wow – don’t know which is worse; McCarthy for asking for the man to be terminated; or Lambeau Field Management for doing it.
    Tarnish that franchise, Mr Thompson.

  27. 1st of all. It doesnt even sound legal to fire the guy for what capt chubbyboy (mccarthy) thought he said.
    Florio
    lets look into the legal issues at hand and Wisconsin state law and then if there is just cause
    lets make it PFT’s cause to
    put the guy in touch with a lawyer that will explain things to the packers and the mass media and so on and so forth.
    Pigheaded ignorance just doesnt float.
    You said all that needs to be said about this McCarthy (i wont give him the honor of calling him coach)

  28. “Really, why would a 22-year employee be stupid enough to disrespect the head coach of the team to his face? ”
    Um… ’cause 22 year olds do stupid things?

  29. Mike, this is one I think you are wrong on …. I went to the link and read the article. It clearly states that Wood made his remarks as “McCarthy was talking with members of the grounds crew.”
    Now either Wood said it, or he didn’t. The simplest thing to do wasn’t to talk with Wood, who may have had every incentive to lie if in fact he did make the cooment. The smartest thing to do would be to speak to those grounds crewmen and ask them what THEY heard Wood say. If in fact they also heard him make the egg comment, there is your answer. McCarthy may in fact have done just that, we don’t know. If they didn’t hear the same thing he did, then McCarthy is indeed too insecure and took his frustrations out on an innocent working man.
    If Wood did make that comment, should he have been fired? Hey, when you are getting paid, you don’t make smart-ass comments about your employer. “why would a 22-year employee be stupid enough to disrespect the head coach of the team to his face?” People do stupid, unexplainable things every single day.

  30. I’m really not a troll wandering around the internet looking to piss and moan but I live and breath sports and I hate when the people who do a great service in reporting on parts of it that I would never know about otherwise don’t take the care they should to get things right.
    “That relationship is over. Wood, 53, was fired Nov. 1, the day the Packers lost to the Minnesota Vikings, 38-26.”
    http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/69932532.html
    the guy was 53 years old, he worked at Lambeau for at least 22 years.
    also… “I’m telling you, I had no knowledge of that,” Wood said he told Johnson.
    who says that? sounds like a lawyer answer to me but it makes a better story if it were a sweet little 22 year-old kid right?
    “Wood said he was sitting in a maintenance cart in a stadium tunnel when McCarthy was talking with members of the grounds crew.”
    a) why are you sitting down on anything while everyone else, if not your superiors themselves are talking to the man who’s ultimately your superior, the head coach. it makes you look lazy even if you just sat down, anyone with a brain knows that.
    b) why are you interrupting their conversation by yelling at him? because that’s VERY appropriate.
    i think the guy did say it and he knows it.
    “The next thing Wood knew he was being escorted from Lambeau Field and told he was out of a job. “Allen said to me, ‘Woody, we can’t have that stuff. We have to let you go.’ ”
    Wood said he shook Johnson’s hand and left.”
    doesn’t sound like an outraged man who felt he’d been wronged. sounds like someone who got caught.
    even with the Eagles guy, you can say these things are a bit petty on the organizations’ part but if these guys did the same thing working anywhere else would anyone feel sorry for them?
    to quote the late Vincent Vega, “Antwan probably didn’t expect Marsellus to react like he did, but he had to expect a reaction.”

  31. I’m an Eagles fan that had sympathy for Dan Leone when he was fired, despite the fact that he did, in fact, post a negative phrase to his face book account. This is because 1) The Birds have a history of firing employees without cause ( Tom Modrak, Jason Licht, Ron Howard, Rich Burg, Otis Smith, etc.) and using the ‘at will’ excuse as though citing their legal rights exempts them from any standard of simple common decency. 2) His immediate supervisor , who he was dumb enough to ‘friend’ was the guy that had nothing better to do than troll an employees Facebook account looking for reason to fire him 3) He had a neurological disease which most fans saw as the real reason they wanted him out, he probably wasn’t efficient enough for their liking. They are already being sued by a former employee who had cancer who is alleging that her illness was the basis for her dismissal. This McCarthy guy is the same type of horses ass; like you said , he had nothing better to do than fire a guy who he couldn’t even understand, much the way he doesn’t understand the difference between a HOF QB and some young QB with an ‘upside’. So far, Mr. Upside is 10 -14 as the Packers signal caller. I hope Mark Murphy and whatever kind of Board of Directors they have there fires his rear end and Ted Thompson’s as well.

  32. and why wouldnt McCarthy react to the comment face-to-face at the time? Coaches are not exactly known for holding back.

  33. “Um, where do we start?”
    Didn’t you hammer Cowherd for his one-man show and stream-of-conscience diatribes? Who else but you is involved in this story? Other than the occasional “league source”, all of Florio posts are one-man, stream-of-conscience efforts.
    Again- another story with no effort made to contact the participants- how minimal effort can you get?

  34. i am a college student so i currently do not live in green bay but i was born and raised there, and i talked to a friend yesterday who is still living in green bay and he said there was some news on local radio stations about Mike Holmgren being seen in town. This sounds pretty crazy to me and i could never imagine the Packers doing something this drastic but either way, its fun to think about. I wonder if Packer fans would still be bitter about the way he left and the fact that he announced it prior to the super bowl which in my opinion was a huge distraction for the players.

  35. It just shows that the classlessness starts at the head and works it way down, from gm, to hc to fans, not a suprise there. you fire an employee of 22 years, because he provided a little encouragement for the coach, came off as a joke to me in the article. MM is a douche
    but if this is the case, GB should lock up MM now for the long term, maybe use some of that extra money they aren’t spending on talent to secure his position for the next 15 years or so, he’s a young guy so why not?

  36. I noticed you neglected to mention Bill Cowher as a name that the locals are clamoring for. Allow me to clamor, “Bring the chin to the Bay!”

  37. This firing should be an indictment of the entire Packer organization. How does the maint crew management and hr department let this firing happen? Most organizations have disciplinary levels and unless this worker (of 22yrs) was at the last level, the firing is unwaranted even if he did say lay an egg. I don’t think that an employee of 22yrs would say it but even if they did it is complete crap.
    Karma is a bitch, Green Bay.

  38. If McCarthy gets a win on Sunday, the good folks of Green Bay will allow him to throw a part time employee under the bus, no questions asked.
    If Fatso can’t deliver a win or goes 7-9, who cares what the part time employee says or does, this is all about winning and this whole story is a minor distraction to the real issue, is McCarthy the long term answer. My money is on the NO side of the question.

  39. Nooooo!!!! I want Mccarthy to stick around! His tenure is proving to be very fruitful to my Vikings!!!

  40. Thin skinned is very nice term for such a terd. Happy Holidays and thank for your loyal service over the last 22 years, “your fired” and I don’t want your side of the story.

  41. And who the hell cares even if he said “Don’t lay an egg?” Is that supposed to be taken as a huge insult in the NFL? Really?

  42. McCarthy really needs to stop giving people in Green Bay reasons to hate him. It’s bad enough when you help rid the Team of one of its legends but getting a long time blue collar guy fired over any comment is enough to get his dog killed. People in Green Bay will know what that means.
    Never liked him, never will. I’ll say it a thousand times more, Fire Thompson and McCarthy.

  43. It just keeps getting better. Go to youtube and search the “Greatest Freakout Ever” and we’ll all see whats going on in Packer fans homes. Thanks Packers, youre great entertainment.

  44. At least it wasn’t Tom Cable. Cable would have punched him in the face, broken his jaw, and maybe then considered getting him fired….

  45. Oh I have so much insight on this post, okay here it goes:
    1) “f*#&@g Retarded” – Most common first words uttered by Philadelphia natives…
    2) The Packers are garbage…see last weeks game
    3) “Really, why would a 22-year employee be stupid enough to disrespect the head coach of the team to his face? Plenty of folks write stupid things on web sites and blogs. But most of us adopt some semblance of common sense and civility when dealing with other people directly.”
    Really Florio? What a eloquent way of calling yourself a pussy…this translates to “I wouldn’t say any of this sh*t to people’s face”…

  46. If this is true I couldn’t be more dissapointed in mcarthy and the franchise. Wow total collapse and firing someone who us actually doing thier job without even getting the truth. The seat just got real hot for the higher ups in this packer fans eyes!!!!

  47. WOW!!!!!!!!!! Come on man its a recession are you freekin kidding me???? McCarthy is the softest puss coach in the NFL with that move…..You couldnt even have a discussion with the guy who has worked there 22 years???? I have lost all respect for a once proud front office in GB and their LOUSY coach….
    To the worker I hope you can recover soon I know in these times things can be tough…KEEP YA HEAD UP! The man upstairs has got something else for ya….

  48. The repercussions from Favregeddon will be felt for a long, long time in GB.
    Very silly.

  49. If Wood was fired for making innnocent comments to the coach that is a big deal, considering the Packers are thought to be a family oriented team. This is not Oakland or Dallas, where the employees are trained to be afraid of the boss. If Wood was fired for some other reason, the organization needs to explain that. Otherwise, TT and MM look like petty dictators that can stand to hear from the peasants regarding the state of the team.

  50. Biggest game in lambeau Mike Florio?? There have been numerous playoff games and two championship games in that stadium since the “Ice Bowl” WAY more important then the viking game weeks ago. . I am embarrassed for you.

  51. # assklown says: November 13, 2009 12:18 PM
    At least it wasn’t Tom Cable. Cable would have punched him in the face, broken his jaw, and maybe then considered getting him fired….
    ======================================
    And assclown would be crapping his pants face to face but then acting like a tough guy behind his computer.

  52. mixman34 says:
    November 13, 2009 11:52 AM
    Nooooo!!!! I want Mccarthy to stick around! His tenure is proving to be very fruitful to my Vikings!!!
    ——————————-
    Really? He’s 5-3 against your Vikings.

  53. Whatever happened to the right to free speech?
    The grounds keeper has free speech to say whatever he wants, but that amendment does not protect your job for saying something that stupid to a the head coach of an NFL team.
    The kid said don’t lay an egg, of that I am sure. McCarthy has enough problems of his own to go an “invent” this story just to fire the kid. He said it, excercised his right to say it and lost his job.
    On a more positive note, I am pretty sure Rich Kotite is available in 2010 😀

  54. Another guy gets sacked in Green Bay…who would of thunk it ?
    Karen Rodgers commented, hey this one wasn’t my fault.

  55. I’d like to hear both sides. Unfortunately, there’s very little chance McCarthy will open up about what was said.
    Of course Wood’s going to say he said something innocuous. It makes him look like the victim and lines him up for a nice little payday, either in or out of court.
    If Wood’s version of the encounter is accurate, this is a shame. If not, then I guess it depends on what was actually said. As someone alluded to earlier, if I went to my company’s CEO and said something about making sure she didn’t lay an egg… I’d be packing up my personal effects that afternoon.

  56. McCarthy and TT need to be gone a few years ago. Are you kidding me? Apparently, getting rid of the Favre king didn’t help…to fire a 22-year employee, really? If either of them are still around after this year they’re going to make Mister Rodgers as gun shy as poor David Carr after being sacked a million times.
    They need to face the mistake that they got rid of Favre to swing their weight around and show control, but it backfired on them. Now, they’re up the creek without a paddle and Favre is still doing what he does best…playing hurt and winning.
    Totally unrelated but does anyone else thinks that McCarthy sweats gravy?

  57. Could be, rabbit. Could be. He’s probably a big guy. However punching a non employee is certain to land you assault charges and probably get fired.
    Looking at Cable’s record, he wins less than 50% of his competitions, so I would have a good chance of beating him in a fist fight.

  58. LOL at the intellectually challenged Vikings fans pounding their chests and taking Florio’s assumption on this as gospel. At the end of the year Vikes fans will be silently back in hiding as always. They sound exactly like Jets fans this time last year. EXACTLY like them. And something tells me all those purple #4 jerseys will be used for auto shop rags in a few months time just like all those green #4 jerseys are right now.

  59. “Really? He’s 5-3 against your Vikings.”
    0-2 this year, and sinking like a stone.
    Wouldn’t be so fast to bust out the 5-3 card right now.

  60. Judge people by how they treat those who have no power over them.
    McCarthy got a blue collar employee fired. I believe the blue-collar guy’s story. I don’t believe he said anything about not laying an egg.
    McCarthy reminds me of Dr. Doom. Always blaming someone below him on the organizational chart, who he calls “dolts,” for his own failures.

  61. Horrible classless way for a guy to act.
    Here’s to hoping Fatty McCarthy gets the bullet in January, following another non-playoff season

  62. There likely is something more to this than the PFT re-cap, but I can’t help but wonder why the Coach is concerned about anything other than trying to fix up the mess that is called the ’09 Pack. Does firing a field worker improve the O’line, will it fix Rodgers penchant for being sacked, will it stop the team from taking dumb penalties? He needs to set better priorities, that becomes evident, and I’m an outside Viking fan observor. Looks like the beginning of “The decline and fall….” By the way, someone on here once mentioned that Rodgers and Ellen Degeneres are look-a-likes, except for the beard, his not hers. Now that’s all I see when I look at his deer in the headlights look just before another sack.

  63. Pretty bad if true. I generally support the underdog in these situations which appears to be Woody. Maybe the Minnesota Vikings would call this guy and hire him for one of their field maintainence jobs. Hope to hear more on this story.

  64. Actually it was Mangini who yelled don’t lay an egg, but he denied it blaming it on Tennebaum who then said it was a Lambeau employee.

  65. I don’t know where most of you folks work, but in my experience in the workplace, a part time janitor does not shout out anything to one of the big wigs. Anything, anytime, anywhere without fear of repercussions. A part time janitor keeps his mouth shut and does his job. I was a janitor in the public schools when I was a young man, and even I knew better than to shoutout to the principals or schoolboard members or any of my superiors. It’s innappropriate behavior. And in a pressure packed environment like pro football it’s no surprise the guy was canned. The only thing I find more ridiculous than some of the comments that paint McCarthy as an ogre is Florio’s attempt to create more page views by ramping this thing up with simpering speculations. And as another comment pointed out, the guy’s newspaper quote doesn’t have the ring of truth.

  66. First off this guy if true is workers rights were clearly violated. This clearly will not be the end of it. I would sue the Packers, this guy did not get a fair shake no matter what he said. There are rules in place on how we can terminate employees. Did he have prior offenses, etc. Besides all that The GM & the coach & even the team President need to be looked at for there handling of this team.

  67. This just shows how “untouchable” these guys think they are.
    Packers are dysfunctional and will be until Mayor McCheese and Ted T are ruining (not running) the show.

  68. dang…I meant not ruining the show…Florio..keep up the good work on Anti-Packer stories!!!

  69. dang…I meant not ruining the show…Florio..keep up the good work on Anti-Packer stories!!!

  70. Well, at least Mike McCarthy found someone he can boss around – a lowly stadium worker.
    It’s clear that this team has no discipline, no leadership, no direction and most of all no heart. And that starts with the head coach. Gee, I “wonder” what Lombardi would have done had one of his players had head-butted another player in a game in which the Packers lead 41-0 with a minute left, much less that ultimately cost the team 4 points, and perhaps a ball game. Oh yeah, he’d have been cut the next day. McCarthy – doesn’t even take Johnny Jolly out for a series. Pathetic.
    Maybe Favre was right to want to leave this train wreck. After seeing what Ted Thompson and the people inside 1265 Lombardi Ave. did to the most popular player in team history, PLUS what they’ve done to this team, and now what the do to lowly team employees, name me one free agent that will ever want to come here ??? Heck, name one Packer free agent that will want to “stay” once they hit free agency – unless they grossly overpay ??? None. Kampman – gone. Collins – gone.
    Maybe 2007 is 1967 part 2 and we’ll go another 29 years before we get another winner. Heaven knows we’ll never have one a long as these 2 clowns (McCarthy and Thompson) are in charge here.
    As a lifelong Packer fan, the past 2 weeks of this once proud franchise have been truly embarrassing. But BRAVO McCarthy. Well done, you should be sooooo proud of yourself. You got a stadium employee fired.

  71. CaptainFantastik says:
    November 13, 2009 1:20 PM
    LOL at the intellectually challenged Vikings fans pounding their chests and taking Florio’s assumption on this as gospel. At the end of the year Vikes fans will be silently back in hiding as always. They sound exactly like Jets fans this time last year. EXACTLY like them. And something tells me all those purple #4 jerseys will be used for auto shop rags in a few months time just like all those green #4 jerseys are right now.
    =================================
    Yes, because the past always gives us answers to the future……You are an idiot.
    Another blatant attempt by a Packer fan to deflect the dysfunction going on in GB.
    Making flat out assumptions of what they HOPE will happen. It just has to frost your balls that Favre is leading your hated rivals to a 7-1 record.
    Nice try Captain limpdick.
    This packer team has no discipline, no leadership,
    no direction, and no heart.

  72. @bluestree: Since most states pretty much have “at will” policies in terms of hiring/firing employees ; I don’t think anyone is disputing whether the guy CAN be fired…..People tend to judge the character of others based on many factors, one of which is how you treat the people nearer the ‘bottom of the totem pole’ in a given organization; people that believe they’re above having subordinates engage them in conversation are usually poor leaders, and people of low character. If McCarthy went to another member of the organization ( didn’t have the integrity to ask the gentlemen what he said to his face) and got a 22 year employee , ( meaning nobody else ever had a problem with the guy) to get a guy fired over an innocuous remark, then he deserves for people to question what type of individual he may be in an open forum such as this one.

  73. @Florio: Remember, the first time you refer to someone in a piece, you have to use their first and last name. You can subsequently refer to the subject just by their last name.
    I still have no what Wood’s first name is.

  74. Sounds like a perfect fit for Dan Snyder and the Redskins.
    Jerry Kramer just announced that “McCarthy has a Dark Heart”

  75. @drbob1117; I don’t disagree with you in principle, but we’re not talking about engaging a superior in conversation, we’re talking about shouting out a comment to the head coach while he is speaking to someone else. It is innappropriate. Also, a head coach in the NFL does not have time for a sitdown with part time janitor. We are both drawing conclusions with no background information, but it doesn’t seem to me to be much of a stretch that a 22 year employee might be a fan of a previous regime, and certainly there are people that work at Lambeau who resent the whole Farve scenario enough to create an undercurrent that McCarthy is aware of. Maybe this guy was made an example of. Remember Farve made a big deal about his conversation with the security guy the last time he left Lambeau? Given the situation, there is probably more going on here than is meets the eye. I stand by what I wrote, the man acted innappropriately in the workplace, and should have known better. I doubt he kept his job with the Packers for the money, but to be close to the team. He should have known better.

  76. I usually don’t post but, “MoPackerFan” hit the nail on the head…Holmgren and Gruden would be awesome.

  77. Actually, the guy was fired because McLardy hungrily panicked after he thought the maintenance dude said: “hey Mike, I ate all your eggs for breakfast”.
    Then McLardass responded to the head of maintenance: “this is a correctable mistake, we just have to review some tape”.
    After further thought, McBeerbelly ran to Murphy and in between bites of his Gilbert burger, declared: “inform Goodell about our maintenance disruption, this smells like tampering by Childress and Bevell.”

  78. Perhaps if this maintenance guy had the proper pad level, he would still have a job.

  79. Richm2256 says:
    November 13, 2009 1:24 PM
    “Really? He’s 5-3 against your Vikings.”
    0-2 this year, and sinking like a stone.
    Wouldn’t be so fast to bust out the 5-3 card right now.
    ——————————
    I’m well aware of this year’s record. But it wasn’t my statement that McCarthy’s tenure “is proving to be very fruitful” to the Vikings. No Vikings fan would’ve said that in 2006 or 2007, when the Packers went 4-0 versus the Vikings.

  80. purpleguy says:
    November 13, 2009 2:24 PM
    Actually, the guy was fired because McLardy hungrily panicked after he thought the maintenance dude said: “hey Mike, I ate all your eggs for breakfast”.
    Then McLardass responded to the head of maintenance: “this is a correctable mistake, we just have to review some tape”.
    After further thought, McBeerbelly ran to Murphy and in between bites of his Gilbert burger, declared: “inform Goodell about our maintenance disruption, this smells like tampering by Childress and Bevell.”
    —————————–
    This is by far the longest stretch I’ve ever seen for a joke. And the joke wasn’t worth a damn in the first place.

  81. I’m not a McCarthy fan and I probably never will be, but this Wood guy sounds like a total tool box.
    If you are a lowly maintenance crew guy at a football stadium you don’t yell anything at the head coach of the team you work for. Ever. I’m sure since he’s worked there for so long he felt like he’s earned a bit of latitude and told the coach not to lay an egg, which I’m sure he thought was pretty funny. It wasn’t and he got canned as he should.
    On the surface it looks like McCarthy is picking on a lowly 53 year-old, salt of the earth maintenance worker, but the guy needed to be let go.
    That said, I hope this story has legs and speeds McCarthy’s firing. If I see one more shotgun-formation draw play I’m going to lose it! You’re not fooling anyone with that!

  82. I think PFT has proved that:
    Packers-Viking is truly the worst rivalry in the NFL. Florio probably posts Packers or Brett Favre stories just to get a good laugh at the office.
    “She”gles- Cowboys is a close second but they put us to shame.
    ‘SOME PEOPLE SAY IM CRAZY AS A SNAKE”

  83. Somebody tells the coach not to lay an egg. Then the coach lays an egg.
    Who should be fired? The guy who told the guy NOT to do it, or the guy WHO DID IT?

  84. If the employee in question was offended by something the coach said, could he go the same route and get the coach fired? The coach would be asked to make a public appology and all would be done with. People say things to their boss in the heat of an arguement and don’t get fired. If this was just a story to get a rise out of people so they would react as we are? Shame on you for your ploy, and shame on us for our stupidity. If it is a true story and the coach can get a 22 year employee fired!? 22 years! Coach has no heart. Packers have no class ( anymore)

  85. THIS COMMENT IS FOR FAVRE HAS A VAGINA. MAN (OR WOMAN), YOU ARE A PIG. YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE ALL THE FUN OUT OF THESE COMMENT SECTIONS BY WRITING GARBAGE LIKE THAT. YOU MUST HAVE A MAJOR IDENTITY ISSUE OR A SEXUALITY CRISIS. THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT MIKE MCCARTHY AND THE PACKERS. NOT THE VIKINGS. STICK TO THE ARTICLE OR GET THE HECK OFF THIS SITE. YOU DON’T BELONG HERE.

  86. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    November 13, 2009 2:47 PM
    Richm2256 says:
    November 13, 2009 1:24 PM
    “Really? He’s 5-3 against your Vikings.”
    0-2 this year, and sinking like a stone.
    Wouldn’t be so fast to bust out the 5-3 card right now.
    ——————————
    I’m well aware of this year’s record. But it wasn’t my statement that McCarthy’s tenure “is proving to be very fruitful” to the Vikings. No Vikings fan would’ve said that in 2006 or 2007, when the Packers went 4-0 versus the Vikings.
    —————————————
    Spoken like a “true” Packer fan!
    Let’s talk about 2 or 3 years ago.
    Better yet, how about 13, 41, and 42 years ago?
    Vikes have a 3 game streak going aginst the pack
    08 division title, 09 division title plus—who knows.
    I’d say that’s pretty fruitful.
    Of course Adam, I should defer to you on this.
    You are the authority on all things “fruity”.

  87. chickenfoot, once again you prove that you are a jackass……. or asshat or whatever you call it. no one wants to be there? really? you have spoken to how many packers players? you have an opinion…… a naive one at best. how about you keep it to yourself. go home, or better yet, to your vikings hall of fame and count your trophies you jackass. better yet, make a game of it and round up all your vikings greats that have superbowl rings and throw a mid season championship party. let me be the first to congradulate you. YOU HAVE WON THE MIDSEASON CHAMPIONSHIP. that surely has to feel better than winning it all

  88. # FavreHasAVagina says: November 13, 2009 10:28 AM
    Come’on ViQueers fans, it’s a Packers post, tell us how good the ViQueers are.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You do realize that “ViQueers” makes absolutely no sense right? I mean I don’t expect much from a 30 year old Packer fan with a first grade IQ, but even they should be able to distinguish that this makes no sense at all.
    I am all for razzing of teams, but say something that makes sense. You guys have been calling them the ViQueens all along, and we have been calling you guys the PacQueers.. You see, ViQueens sounds like Vikings, and PacQueers sounds like Packers. You following me, or do you want me to slow down?
    As far as your name goes, I can see how Favre would now have a vagina after you rode his dick for so many years.

  89. hung like a chicken:
    pretty sure i said nothing about ” no one wanting to be there”.
    Why dont you try to keep your posters straight there buttplug.
    Way to keep the packer fan theory alive and well. idiot.
    When the Packers suck, let’s talk about the past!!
    i neve said the vikes would win anything, i said IF
    IF, you do know the maning of the word, right?
    These postings get more moronic by the day, I’d call you an asshat, but that would be insulting to the asshats.

  90. Chickenfoot says:
    November 13, 2009 3:59 PM
    Spoken like a “true” Packer fan!
    Let’s talk about 2 or 3 years ago.
    Better yet, how about 13, 41, and 42 years ago?
    Vikes have a 3 game streak going aginst the pack
    08 division title, 09 division title plus—who knows.
    I’d say that’s pretty fruitful.
    Of course Adam, I should defer to you on this.
    You are the authority on all things “fruity”.
    —————————-
    I am not the one made the original comment. If you want to talk about ONLY THE LAST 2 YEARS of McCarthy’s tenure, then you should be going after mixman34 for how he worded it.
    If he wants to talk about McCarthy’s tenure as a whole, then you can’t forget the years during which his team OWNED yours.
    And it’s always interesting to see you twist history to please yourself. You want to talk about this year because the Vikings have swept the Packers. You want to talk about the second half of last year, because the Vikings won the last meeting in 2008. You don’t want to talk about week 2 of 2008. That’s clearly ancient history, as is 2007, 2006, etc.
    So when it suits your argument, it’s relevant. When it doesn’t.. Let’s not talk about that.
    Anyway as I said, talk to mixman about his choice of words. Unlike you, I hold people to what they say and I refrain from putting my own words in their mouths.

  91. I want to talk about 2009 because that is the only freaking thing that is relevant to this year!!!
    2009
    Who freaking cares about 2 years ago? Only you.
    Piss off you idiot, you are such a dumb ass.
    What part of that is so hard to understand? Last year is last year.
    But this is a guy from a fanbase that brings out championships from mothballs to prove that even thought the Vikes are 8-1 and the Pack 5-4, that makes the Pack the better team.
    You are like arguing with a 2 year old. Only the 2 year old is smarter than you.

  92. No, mixman34 is the one who wanted to talk about McCarthy’s tenure. Do I need to draw little pictures to illustrate that for you?
    Have you figured out my original username yet, Fagnar?

  93. I’m well aware of this year’s record. But it wasn’t my statement that McCarthy’s tenure “is proving to be very fruitful” to the Vikings. No Vikings fan would’ve said that in 2006 or 2007, when the Packers went 4-0 versus the Vikings.
    ================================
    Straight out of 1 of your posts ass jockey.
    You WERE talking about 2 and 3 years ago.
    God you a complete tool.
    Stick to what you know, which isn’t much.
    How to make yourself look like an asshat on PFT
    I could give 2 shits what your original username was.
    Do you think you are memorable or something?
    You are the same as any of 100 other dickheads on this site, just little more stupid than most.
    What YOU aren’t getting is that in the last 3 games, the vikes have won, they are on an upswing. The packers are in a holding pattern to maybe a downswing.
    I’m sure you have some “stats” to prove me wrong.
    Complete and utter asshat. Complete!

  94. Chickenfoot says:
    November 16, 2009 3:54 PM
    What YOU aren’t getting is that in the last 3 games, the vikes have won, they are on an upswing. The packers are in a holding pattern to maybe a downswing.
    —————————–
    So now you want to make a 3 game win streak out of a 2 game win streak? Really? Yeah, I don’t even have to go past counting to three to make you out to be an idiot. There’s my “stats”.
    Hey, wake me up when the Vikings beat a good team, OK? Unless you’re willing to call the Packers good (and I wouldn’t), they’re still looking for their first quality win. Their signature win so far was a two-point win against a .500 club. On a missed field goal. At home.
    Go ahead and call it an upswing if you want, but they should look good playing mediocre teams.

  95. You said:
    “What YOU aren’t getting is that in the last 3 games, the vikes have won, they are on an upswing. The packers are in a holding pattern to maybe a downswing.”
    You said nothing about the last 3 games between the Packers and Vikings. So I was looking at the Vikings’ last 3 games.
    Anyway, it looks like you still need to talk to mixman. He’s comfortable with a losing record against his biggest rival.

  96. For the last time dumbass:
    We were talking about the Vikings/ Packers game from the beginning, why would I switch gears and talk about the Vikes last 3 games?!?!
    Either you can’t follow a thread, or you have a reading comprehension problem.
    Keep living in the past. 2009 is all that matters til the offseason, then we can talk about the past all you want.
    We can talk about all those great teams from yesteryear.
    Until then, try to concentrate on 09, ok?

  97. Chickenfoot says:
    November 17, 2009 10:37 AM
    For the last time dumbass:
    We were talking about the Vikings/ Packers game from the beginning, why would I switch gears and talk about the Vikes last 3 games?!?!
    Either you can’t follow a thread, or you have a reading comprehension problem.
    Keep living in the past. 2009 is all that matters til the offseason, then we can talk about the past all you want.
    We can talk about all those great teams from yesteryear.
    Until then, try to concentrate on 09, ok?
    —————————
    You’re so dumb you don’t even make sense to yourself. In the same post you acknowledge you’re talking about 2008, then you go on to say “try to concentrate on 09”.
    Make up your mind, idiot-boy.

  98. Hey Packer fans, THIS is your team now. THIS is what you wanted.
    When you all voted that getting rid of Favre and going forward with this management team, THIS is what you voted for.
    The Packers used to be one of the classiest sports organization in the world.
    Now anyone who gives the perception of disresepect to the powers that be from the legendary quarterback to the lowliest stadium worker is kicked to the curb.
    Enjoy it cheeseheads because with every BOO you gave Brett Favre you gave a big thumbs to this team from top to bottom.
    As a lifelong Green Bay resident, let me say how pathetic you have all become and I am ashamed to live in the same city as this once great organization.
    Shame on all of you, because YOU all turned it into what it is now.

  99. stetai says:
    November 18, 2009 4:30 PM
    Hey Packer fans, THIS is your team now. THIS is what you wanted.
    When you all voted that getting rid of Favre and going forward with this management team, THIS is what you voted for.
    The Packers used to be one of the classiest sports organization in the world.
    Now anyone who gives the perception of disresepect to the powers that be from the legendary quarterback to the lowliest stadium worker is kicked to the curb.
    Enjoy it cheeseheads because with every BOO you gave Brett Favre you gave a big thumbs to this team from top to bottom.
    As a lifelong Green Bay resident, let me say how pathetic you have all become and I am ashamed to live in the same city as this once great organization.
    Shame on all of you, because YOU all turned it into what it is now.
    —————————–
    Why don’t you move to Minnesota then? Follow your idol. I’m sure you’ll be missed.

  100. Don’t fire McCarthy! He is the best coach in the league and the Packers need him and Ted to stay the course. Continue to strive for mediocrity.
    Kind of a prick job firing that kid though even if he did say “don’t lay an egg”. McCarthy has other stuff to worry about, let’s focus Mike, 7-4 and in contention.

  101. Seaman Jelle says:
    November 29, 2009 3:54 PM
    Don’t fire McCarthy! He is the best coach in the league and the Packers need him and Ted to stay the course. Continue to strive for mediocrity.
    Kind of a prick job firing that kid though even if he did say “don’t lay an egg”. McCarthy has other stuff to worry about, let’s focus Mike, 7-4 and in contention.
    ——————————
    Holy shit. How old are you? “That kid” is 53. Reading comprehension problems?

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