NFL could face renewed pressure for Cowboys-Saints telecast

Two years ago, the New England Patriots prepared to attempt to cap a perfect regular season against the New York Giants.  The game was scheduled to be telecast only by NFL Network.

A mountain of pressure was placed on the NFL, and the league eventually decided to permit the key Saturday night contest to be simulcast on NBC and CBS.

This year, another critical late-season game will be played on a Saturday night in December, and it will be available only on NFL Network.  Though it doesn’t come in Week 17, the Saints would be working on stretching their record to 14-0 against the self-styled America’s Team, assuming that New Orleans beats the Redskins and the Falcons in the next two weeks.

It remains to be seen whether the league faces renewed pressure to export the game to other networks, especially since the circumstances are somewhat different.  Again, it’s not the last piece of a perfect puzzle.  Likewise, NFLN is now distributed on a much broader basis, thanks to a deal with Comcast that puts the league-owned channel into millions of additional homes.

Still, the fact that NFL Network remains absent from carriers like Time Warner means that plenty of Cowboys fans, Saints fans, and general football fans who want to see the game won’t be able to do so.

Last time around, some Congressional saber-rattling helped get the game moved to networks available in virtually every American home with a television set in it.  Given the extent to which the league has shouted “how high?” in response to a recent request by Congress to jump on the problem of brain injuries, it probably won’t take much needling to get the league to give the nation a Christmas present only five days before Santa Claus makes his rounds.

68 responses to “NFL could face renewed pressure for Cowboys-Saints telecast

  1. Keep them on NFL Network only. With the salary cap coming to and end the last piece in the puzzle is to limit access. Then we can finally kill the golden goose and have one last dinner before football goes the route of hockey.

  2. My response? Go to a bar that has satellite or get a satellite dish and quit whining. I dropped Charter and got a dish the day after Charter dropped the NFLN, and haven’t regretted it once.

  3. Hmm, given the way the Saints are playing I’m not exactly excited by the prospect of watching them get ‘Sainted’ by a large audience.

  4. Who cares? The Saints will never win a Super Bowl andd the Cowboys have no chance this year. They will be watching the Super Bowl on t.v. like the rest of us. So come on all you idiots! Come out of the woodwork and jumped on the Saints banwagon. lol. Lets talk about the Colts and Vikings the only 2 teams that REALLY matter cause they will be in the Super Bowl.

  5. Not to mention watching a game on the NFL network is a close second to getting a root canal. Broadcasting horrible, sound is like they are recording in a tunnel?

  6. Saints need to win the next two games first.
    This is the NFL, anything can happen. Take care of the Redskins first. They are a dangerous team with a very good defense. Then the Falcons, who will be fighting for their playoff life. If that happens then consider it.
    If it were up to me and the Saints were 13-0 going in to the Cowboys game, I would keep it on NFL Network only. Maybe then, the likes of Time Warner would see the light and give people the NFL Network.

  7. Cowboys get Chargers and Saints in December, ouch.
    Looks like another Dec free fall in Dallas.
    NFLN is a joke, looks like nothing more than high school broadcast quality with the constant game day screw ups.

  8. Florio, before you speak, have some knowledge about what you’re talking about. They aren’t the “self-styled” America’s Team. They didn’t name themselves. Bob Ryan did in 1978. Stop letting your Cowboys bias get the best of you.

  9. The NFL schedule came out a long time ago. Now, over half way through the season, we realize that a game scheduled to be on NFL Network (only a few are broadcast on that station all season) will be one of the best of the year, and people just now start to complain. I do not feel sorry for any of them.
    The NFL doesnt know which teams will be great from year to year. This is no diffrent than when a great NFL game is only braodcast on FOX, but the local Fox station plays the local team instead.
    If you care enough to get congress involved, man up and get a satallite dish and NFL sunday ticket. Or, use that influence to pressure Time Warner Cable in to getting NFL Network. Simply crying and saying “its not fair, you need to redo your entire schedule to make sure I can view your product…” is childish and laughable.

  10. Of course it will be changed and simulcast, the NFL knows everybody wants to see the Cowboysv (America’s Team) ruin the Saints undefeated season. Also, the NFL will receive the most pressure from Jerry, and he will get it done.

  11. @Krow
    It’s amazing how illiterate the comment-makers are on this site. Krow, “and” and “an” are two different words. “And” is a conjunction. “An” is an article placed before a noun that begins with a vowel. Your sarcasm is lost in your inability to express yourself. Another poor product of the American Public School System…

  12. Hosstyle In Tampa:
    I think you’re hitting the guy pretty hard over a typo. The rest of his post is spelled and punctuated correctly, so to call him illiterate for simply adding a “d” when he shouldn’t have is really petty.

  13. @ Hosstyle
    Keep up the great work. The world needs perfectionists like yourself as much as it needs child molesters.

  14. Time Warner and the like need to shit or get off the pot. NFLN is something that people want, and as much or more a legitimate network as half the garbage they have on their current roster. There’s simply no reason not to have NFLN as part of the basic package.

  15. @Jerry’sWorld
    are you for real??? cowgirls will lose big time.
    keep the game on NFLN only!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. I, for one, will be simulcasting the Cowboys radio broadcast on top of the game for a proper viewing experience.

  17. “Keep them on NFL Network only. With the salary cap coming to and end the last piece in the puzzle is to limit access. Then we can finally kill the golden goose and have one last dinner before football goes the route of hockey.”
    @red13
    You really think that’s the only “typo” (which you’re assuming that it is a typo)? You must have sat behind him in English class. There’s no subject in the first “sentence”, if you’re sympathetic enough to call it that. He’s missed a comma in the second and third “sentences”. Hey, if you guys are content with sounding like idiots, then by all means knock yourselves out…

  18. I get so tired of people wanting to get Congress involved in everydamnthing that doesn’t suit them! The NFL is a PRIVATE business; they can do business in any way they seem fit (as long as it’s legal). If they choose to limit their viewership, it’s their choice! I know I will hear all about the anit-trust exemptions, yadda-yadda. If you don’t like their practices, let them know and then follow up and stop watching their games, stop buying their merchandise, and stop buying their advertisers products. THAT is the only way you can get them to listen.
    I used to love NASCAR. But they decided to change their philosophy and cater to newer, far away markets while catering less and less to their core fans (i.e. southern rednecks). How are their ratings these days? I didn’t like what they did so I quit following it.
    I agree with many of the previous posters; you want to see the game, get a dish or go to a bar. But shut the heck up about getting congress to do this and that.
    Browns in Super Bowl 2010!

  19. “self-styled America’s Team”
    I’m so sick and tired of your Cowboys biased. that term was labeled by a column writer back in the 70s. why the hell would a team come up with their own name?
    stfu

  20. “Still, the fact that NFL Network remains absent from carriers like Time Warner means that plenty of Cowboys fans, Saints fans, and general football fans who want to see the game won’t be able to do so.”
    Too bad. The schedule’s been out since last April and exclusive games on NFL Network are nothing new. Football fans have had plenty of opportunity to switch to a provider that offers NFL Network. If they opted not too, that’s their problem. Don’t make it a problem for someone else.

  21. # Borg30 says: December 1, 2009 10:13 AM
    @Jerry’sWorld
    are you for real??? cowgirls will lose big time.
    keep the game on NFLN only!!!!!!!!!!!
    _____________
    Cowboys ruined the Colts perfect season a couple years ago. so that’s not a far fetched prediction there Scooter.
    although yes……the Saints will probably win. they are better team than that Colts team was that year and this year.

  22. Guys, lay off Hosstyle. A tight grasp on spelling and grammar makes him royalty in the south. Can you blame the corresponding sense of supremacy?

  23. “NFLN is a joke, looks like nothing more than high school broadcast quality with the constant game day screw ups.”
    ^^^^^
    That audio glitch on the Chicago-SF game that caused most of the 1st quarter to be announcerless was as enjoyable of a telecast as I can remember. I thought it was by design, loved it, until the audio feed was restored, much to my disappointment.
    Hopefully with technological advancements we can get to the point where we can keep the crowd noise and field audio while being able to mute the announcers if we choose.

  24. Hosstyle In Tampa… you are an obvious douchebag. Keep it up. The world can always use another bean counter.

  25. @Krow
    You’re a tribute to blog readers everywhere. What the world really needs is more illiterate a$$holes and more compromise in the field of education. You’re the reason our country spends more than any other country on education, but lacks the results of those investments.

  26. Krow says:
    December 1, 2009 10:50 AM
    Hosstyle In Tampa… you are an obvious douchebag. Keep it up. The world can always use another bean counter.
    ‘Bean-Counter’ is a popular nickname for an accountant, a profession which tends to make good salaries. If that was meant to be an insult, you failed miserably.
    “The world can always use another ditch-digger” would have gone over a lot better…
    But then again, the world doesn’t need another ignorant asshole, yet they are born every day.

  27. Hosstyle, it’s obvious that you got “A”s in English and “F”s in citizenship. Congratulations on your superiority.

  28. Why would they put a team on National TV that falls apart every December, the Aint’s will urinate on them anyway.

  29. This song is played out like Jay-Z’s ‘Empire State of Mind’.
    For the most part, the people that don’t get NFL Network don’t get ESPN either. They don’t get anything other than CBS, ABC, FOX (they get NBC but that doesn’t change the fact that they don’t watch it).
    NFL Network is now carried by DirecTV (obviously), Comcast Cable and AT&T U-Verse. I think Dish Network is the only one on the outside looking in at this point. So the boo-whooing that goes on against NFL Network at this point is pointless. The old joke about games broadcasted on NFL Network having a viewership of 14 households is old; its now 14 households that don’t have the privelage of watching NFLN.

  30. @Krow
    “A man’s character may be learned from the adjectives which he habitually uses in conversation.” – Mark Twain

  31. Hosstyle:
    To paraphrase Chris Rock, jumping on PFT posters for poor English skills is like criticising a retarded kid for double-dribbling a basketball. Some things, ya just gotta let go.

  32. um, the cowboys are not “self-styled” as “america’s team.” NFL films dubbed them that in a highlight film about 20 years ago. maybe you want to look it up, florio.

  33. Poor me, I don’t get NFL Network… It isn’t as if there’s anyone in the country that CAN’T get the game, so go get a f*cking satelite dish or quit whining.
    Seriously, why stop with a few football games? Why not force HBO & Showtime to air their hit shows (edited for content of course) on broadcast TV?
    What a bunch of garbage.

  34. I would just like to say that I as a women LOVE football. I also only get ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox.
    See there are some people who cannot AFFORD all of those other channels because well you know it costs a great deal of money and I have more important things to use my money for. And going to a sports bar is out of the question also.
    I think that the Skins will be no problem for the Saints and the Falcons might be a little bit of a tougher task. If the Saints can pull both of those games off then I would love to see them play the Cowboys. But unfortunately I probably won’t get to see that game.

  35. SF Saints Fan says:
    December 1, 2009 9:45 AM
    Saints need to win the next two games first.
    This is the NFL, anything can happen. Take care of the Redskins first. They are a dangerous team with a very good defense. Then the Falcons, who will be fighting for their playoff life. If that happens then consider it.
    If it were up to me and the Saints were 13-0 going in to the Cowboys game, I would keep it on NFL Network only. Maybe then, the likes of Time Warner would see the light and give people the NFL Network.

  36. DaBillsDaaahhhBills … yes, ignorant assholes are indeed born everyday. Your mother seems to have produced at least one.

  37. Hosstyle In Tampa … seriously, you’re on an Internet blog and correcting typos. Just sayin’…..

  38. Come on guys. Pry open the wallet and buy a dish if you want to watch ALL the games.
    I do it each year to watch the damn Cleveland Browns each week because I don’t live in Cleveland any longer! How sick is that. BUT I do it because I want to watch ALL the games.

  39. i just heard that you have to subscribe to a higher tier package to get the nfln on comcast so that statement in the article is misleading.

  40. “Still, the fact that NFL Network remains absent from carriers like Time Warner means that plenty of Cowboys fans, Saints fans, and general football fans who want to see the game won’t be able to do so.”
    Too bad. The schedule’s been out since last April and exclusive games on NFL Network are nothing new. Football fans have had plenty of opportunity to switch to a provider that offers NFL Network. If they opted not too, that’s their problem. Don’t make it a problem for someone else.

  41. jsporty says:
    December 1, 2009 11:41 AM
    See there are some people who cannot AFFORD all of those other channels because well you know it costs a great deal of money and I have more important things to use my money for. And going to a sports bar is out of the question also.
    =====================================
    And no one else you know in the whole wide world has NFL Network? No friends or family that are in a better economic situation than you are with NFL Network?

  42. paranoidandroid says:
    December 1, 2009 11:43 AM
    or maybe the NFL will see the light and realize the fans don’t want to put up with their shit. the NFL thought once these games were on thursday and saturday nights everyone would cry to their cable/satellite provider and they would cave in. guess what? it didn’t happen and it shouldn’t. f the nfl for thinking they could bully their way in. i hate the idea of thur and sat night games. why do they have to trick up the nfl season by doing that? its ridiculous.
    =======================================
    Well, then stop watching. I guarantee you won’t be missed.
    As for it not working, I disagree. It used to be only Direct TV. Now it’s all but one cable provider. Sure looks like it’s working to me!

  43. hosstyle in tampa: Yeah you sound like a real tough guy! I bet you get all pissed off proofreading your wifes work! Who gives a SHIT people are here to talk football!

  44. SpartaChris,
    Actually, there is more than one cable provider that doesn’t carry the NFLN. I live in St. Louis, and our provider, Charter Communications, dropped the channel years ago, hence the ugly dish outside my kitchen window.

  45. Last Brees vs Cowboy defense matchup: 384 yards passing, 5 tds, 0 interceptions, and 536 yards of offense…….in your house. Final score 42-17 with the Saints kneeling inside the 10 for mercy. Do you guys think this Cowboy defense is that much better? Is Wade Phillips a better coach than Bill Parcells at the time who knew Sean Payton inside and out? Is he better than Bill Belechek? Is Romo better than Brady? Come play in our house………

  46. paranoidandroid says:
    December 1, 2009 12:00 PM
    i just heard that you have to subscribe to a higher tier package to get the nfln on comcast so that statement in the article is misleading.
    ————————————————-
    That “higher tier” package costs $5 a month. Five. Fricking. Dollars. If you don’t have an extra five bucks to spend on football each month, you should probably be working on Sundays anyway.

  47. jsporty,
    If all you get is the local channels, why are you complaining just about NFLN games, and not about missing MNF on ESPN? That goes the whole season, not just 8 weeks…

  48. Either the NFL is allowed to broadcast it’s games on their network or they are not. Everything I have seen and heard tells me they can… and do.
    Many may not like it, but thats just the way it is.
    You can not change the rules, in mid season, just because you find out that the rule might actually affect one of the popular teams for 1 game. No team should get special treatment over another. Other teams games are broadcast on NFL network too and their fans live with it.

  49. Every time there is a game of moderate interest on NFL network, this subject comes up again. The jerks at ESPN love making cracks about “how bad it is that so many people won’t be able to see this game because it is on NFL network” whenever they get the chance.
    Well, the Monday Night game that the Disney/ABC/ESPN empire switched over to cable/satellite is in the same category. The difference is that certain major cable networks have chosen not to carry the NFL network as part of their programming, while ESPN clogs up things by having ESPN, ESPNHD, ESPN2, ESPN2HD, ESPNU, ESPN NEWS, ad infinitum, when they don’t have enough decent programming to fill one network. How many of you DVR the Women’s Pocket Billiard championships?
    If cable companies were forced to offer networks in a cafeteria type plan, where their subscribers got to pick and choose, how many people would tell them to drop one or more of the marginal ESPN networks and carry the NFL network?
    That said, I have to agree with those who say the NFL Network doesn’t do a very good job with the broadcast. That’s because they are so frigging cheap for a multi-billion dollar business. Aren’t they the ONLY major professional sport without full-time game officials?

  50. red13 says:
    December 1, 2009 12:23 PM
    SpartaChris,
    Actually, there is more than one cable provider that doesn’t carry the NFLN. I live in St. Louis, and our provider, Charter Communications, dropped the channel years ago, hence the ugly dish outside my kitchen window.
    ======================================
    Except IIRC, Charter carries it now.

  51. I do not have the nfl network just for the basic fact that it would be a waste of money. If this game, and I am a big saints fan, is to be on the nfl network than so be it. There are thousands of sports bars in Austin I can go see the game at, drink a beer or two and tell all the Dallas fans what losers they are.

  52. Hosstyle, I have not seen one post about football. That’s what this site is all about. Einstein was a horrible speller. Are you calling him stupid too? Get a fu#@ing life.I hope I spelled everything right.

  53. I say broadcast it on all networks. Let everyone see the beatdown. Deep down in places that you don’t talk about in polite conversations all Cowboy fans know what is going to happen to “America’s Team”.

  54. The Cowboys not only beat the Colts, but they played the Patriots close when they went undefeated in the regular season. The final score is not indicative of how close the game really was. Also, PurpleJesus did not do anything & everyone knows that Brett Favre can’t beat the Cowboys.
    Cowboys will represent the NFC in the Superbowl!

  55. Wow! These Saints fans are really feelin it. You’d think after all the SB’s this team has won, this season would be old hat for them. Let’s see, I think a guy could amputate both his hands and still have enough fingers for the Saints’ SB rings. I suppose when you have been the laughingstock of the NFL for 40 years, the frustration comes bubbling to the surface. Your team is close, but they haven’t done it yet. Lot’s of ball left between now and the bowl. If your team can remain competetive, you’ll understand that eventually.

  56. He did not say Self ” NAMED” Americas team
    he said self styled, stop bieng soooooo sensative!
    can we get some cheese with that WHINE ?

  57. You know what, leave it and maybe the league will allow certain companies to have the same sports packages available for all viewers. Unfortunately, I have the NFL Network and I will enjoy the game. On the flip side, I do not have the other viewing capacity that allows one to see all the games throughout the year… I say leave it be and GO FISH…Do You Have Any 8’s…

  58. @Hosstyle:
    you’re really correcting grammar on a football chat thread? really??
    must be amateur night…

  59. Hey Florio, The Atlanta Braves also call themselves Americas team.
    And Greenbay calls itself “titletown”
    But Dallas is America’s team for one simple reason, win, lose or draw guys like you just HAVE to write about them and talk about them. So keep talking and typing, suckers!

  60. Muting the annoying broadcast announcers may be easier than you think:
    IF YOU HAVE SURROUND SOUND, simply disconnect your center channel speaker. That’s it.
    Like magic the announcers disappear but everything else stays intact–crowd noise, whistles, hits, in-stadium PA, background noise, even the penalty calls by the official. Now, some broadcasts have a slight bleed of the announcers into your left/right speakers, but CBS was clean.
    For the Thanksgiving Day game, Jim Nantz and Phil Simms simply vanished.

  61. I dont think its right to ask them to yet again put their best game of the year on other networks for free. I have no problem with them allowing it to go on Fox but fox should pay a fee for that one game to make up the difference.
    Because not only will people who dont have NFL network watch the show on the other network but some people who have NFL network will watch it on a different channel too. So if these other channels want to show the game they need to find out how to compensate the NFL for the viewers that will not watch the channel that other wise would have if not for the game playing somewhere else.

  62. So if I wanted it I would have to cancel with my provider now, risk getting crappier service, pay more and still not get all of the HD channels I’m getting now? How does that make sense?
    Someday cable/satellite will be a la carte and you won’t have to be spoon fed all of the other stupid shit that comes along with a package. I don’t subscribe because I don’t want to encourage the nfl. As for you chumps that do, thanks. From what I hear their broadcasting team is just below atrocious.

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