Deion advised Devine to return to school

There’s considerable euphoria in West Virginia tonight as running back Noel Devine has decided to return for his final year of football eligibility.

Joe Schad of ESPN reports that Deion Sanders advised Devine to stay in school.  (Presumably, however, Deion at no point advised Devine to steal Deion’s car.)

And while yours truly is among those who look forward to watching Devine play for the Mountaineers for one more season, the decision doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

Our guess is that Devine was informed by the NFL Collegiate Advisory Committee that he wouldn’t be drafted in the first three rounds, and that Devine decided he might increase his stock with one more year of college football.

One league source expressed doubt regarding that strategy.  “Will another year make him taller?” the source said.  “Faster?”

The point is that Devine most likely won’t increase his NFL marketability with another year of college football, since he’s likely already as good as he’s going to be at the college level.  Though he’ll probably try even harder and potentially will put up bigger numbers and maybe he’ll end up in the hunt for a Heisman, the risk of serious injury (see Michael Bush) balances out the possibility that he’ll be drafted higher in 2011 than he’d be picked in 2010.

Then there’s the possibility that a rookie wage scale will be implemented in time for the 2011 draft, and/or that there won’t be pro football at all that year.

So while all the WVU fans who wear No. 7 jerseys for which Devine derives not a dime of revenue are happy that he’ll continue to play for free, it’s hard to make the case against going pro, especially in light of the current dynamics between the NFL and the players union.

41 responses to “Deion advised Devine to return to school

  1. This just in, Deion ain’t bright……… so, who’s at fault when one knowingly takes advice from someone that one should no not to take advice from…….
    On the bright side, W.Va should be better for it and sell more tickets, gear, and go to a better bowl game…..which of course brings in more money for the school…

  2. Duuuumb. With the success of guys like Darren Sproles, Jammal Charles, and Jerome Harrison, the smaller faster backs are going to be in high demand.

  3. Just figure out what’s in it for deion and you will have the answer. I can’t believe these guys listen to him. Is it just because he is black?

  4. Why not come back? If you’re going to be a 5th round pick, that doesn’t even guarantee that he makes a team. Let’s see… practice squad or playing for a big time College Football program? At least he can get a degree…. and do you remember what college is like?

  5. He could put on some muscle, and could put up huge numbers and be viewed as one of the best, if not the best, running backs in the country. I agree that he probably wouldn’t be drafted in the first three rounds, so maybe not much will happen to allow him to gain draft status, but he probably won’t lose much status, either.
    Either way, Go Mountaineers!

  6. Apparently, this kid is really fast. He ran a 4.15 40-yard dash?
    Probably a good decision to return to school though. I never heard of him.

  7. Deion has god on speed dial so it was probably wise to listen to him – like all those other fellas he’s helped along with god.

  8. OOO yea I forgot you were a WVU fan….sry my Noles had to beat up your Mountaineers, it was destiny….GOOOOOOO NOLES!!!!!!

  9. While an NFL career is a great thing, how long is the average career in the NFL? Maybe, just maybe, Devine thought it would be an amazing accomplishment to become the first college graduate in his family and at the same time ensure him some level of success after the NFL. But then again, who cares about an education, right?

  10. Did Deion convince him to stay in school by paying all his alimony bills too?
    Turd leading turd. Yay N. Ft. Myers.

  11. Well I hope this decision can’t solely be made from the advice of deion.. he must’ve have gotten feedback saying he wasn’t goin to be a high round pick..OR perhpas he wants to graduate which in a great thing.. but in general very good running backs should leave after their junior year.. surely there’s some exceptions.. but a rb takes too much punishment to stay all 4 yrs or 5.

  12. “While an NFL career is a great thing, how long is the average career in the NFL? Maybe, just maybe, Devine thought it would be an amazing accomplishment to become the first college graduate in his family and at the same time ensure him some level of success after the NFL. But then again, who cares about an education, right?”
    What, you can’t graduate college after giving the NFL a try? WVU (not the most selective undergraduate institution as it is) wouldn’t let a former student, and beloved former athlete go back after an NFL career of any length to earn his degree?
    An education doesn’t put food on the table, the job that an education qualifies one for does.

  13. Ok for all you people saying stay in school for a degree… The average college graduate these days makes how much? IF they can even find a job. Let’s say he goes in the 7th round, makes 300,000 his first year and has a breakout season, signs an extension for 4 years at 5 million a pop with probably a couple million guaranteed and in bonuses. How many College graduates have the chance to make that much money in their entire careers let alone 4-5 years? Maybe Deion should reccomend a financial planner so that income over 5 years, which is more than many of us will earn in 20 years, can last for his entire life.

  14. He’s not playing for free–he’s getting paid a full-ride college education. As an out-of-state student at WVU, that adds up to as much as $100,000 in costs for a four-year degree. Now, that’s small potatoes next to an NFL player’s salary, but this is really a part-time student job.
    Research professors are no doubt bringing in millions of dollars in corporate grants to the school, and they’re only getting paid a small pittance of what they’re worth to the university. Professors are training future wealthy businessmen alumni who become high-dollar boosters & donators, and they’re getting paid a small fraction of what those alumni are worth. I’m sure there are other examples. The issue isn’t limited to athletes.
    I don’t think the most urgent question is whether college athletes should be paid. I think the more important question is: should so much money be spent on high-profile college athletics in the first place? I’m not saying that college athletics shouldn’t be funded. But any big-time football or basketball program is monstrously outsized and overvalued compared to the rest of the school. I’m not sure that society really benefits from that.

  15. I haven’t broken down the two drafts, but is there a chance it’s thinner next year? Especially with a number of juniors leaving to try and get in before a rookie wage scale? And that once the scale is implemented some who may otherwise go pro might stay?

  16. My first reaction, from a football standpoint, was similar to ballergac22’s–running backs take more punishment, so it would surprise me to not see more leaving school early.
    The story with NFL running backs in recent years seems to be black & white, with no in-between–one season they’re flying high, the next they’re burned-out shells of their former selves. Sean Alexander, Edgerrin James, Ladanian Tomlinson–one year they’re being hailed as the best in the game, next season they’re gone. Even Marion Barber and Adrian Peterson have been developing some question marks this year.
    It’s one of the positions that ages worst, so it wouldn’t surprise me to see more college RBs focus more on getting an extra year of pro salary before the inevitable early retirement. Heck, by the time they’re done in the NFL, they could pay their own way to finish college and not even be 30 yet.
    Retired, millionaire, and college-educated, all by 30. We should all be lucky enough to have those problems.

  17. If someone takes advice from Sanders, they deserve the consequences. Which, most likely will be negative.

  18. There is room in the NFL for Devine. See Darren Sproles. Deion is a moron, wish he’d go to Japan or something and never come back. Tired of hearing his loud mouth and how he is a born again christian and crap. Sure you are Deion, thats why you’ve been with more women while your married than I’ll ever be with in my lifetime. Your one hell of a man Deion. Not

  19. I doubt a new rookie wage scale will have any real effect on anyone drafted outside the top-15 or so.
    He is not going in the first round this year so the only problem is the lockout. In that case, having no NFL contract might make it easier for him to ride out 2011 playing paid ball in the CFL.
    Of course he could have a career ending injury next year. If he stays in school he might get a degree, if he goes to the pros he’ll probably earn $400000 to $800000 ish. If he uses it wisely he should have enough to cover the cost of going back to school.

  20. I think players finishing school is the most important thing. IMO players should have to have a 4 year degree in order to qualify for the draft. You need a degree to land any other high paying job so why not one for the NFL? Then maybe we wouldn’t have so many arrests and stupid stuff going on by NFL players and them have them blame it on there upbringing or where they lived.

  21. Excuse me DoomsDayD75, but isn’t Jammal Charles 6’1″ and 200 lbs. That’s a far cry from Sproles or Devine.

  22. I think it’s a good idea if he doesn’t project as a first rounder. The rookie wage scale that will probably happen will be difficult to predict the effect. It looks likely, however, that it’s being pushed to bring those first ten picks into sanity levels. If he’s not expecting to be one of those, he can expect to at least break even (barring injury), and possibly improve his stock. So many of these kids not getting advise assume they’ll be a top 10 pick, and all are rushing to get into the league before that payday is gone. If Devine is the only noteworthy kid that decides to stay, he could be the only noteworthy kid in next year’s draft. Even if his stats don’t improve, it’s a supply and demand issue and there are a ton of quality kids declaring for the draft this year. He should finish his degree, learn something, and play good ball without taking too many risks to injury. That should give him the time and space to get his best position in the draft…

  23. Devine can gain a couple things from coming back next year.
    If he has a “clean” off the field season, he can further distance himself from the stigma he earned in high school.
    Also, he has what many runningbacks even on the NFL level lack, excellent field vision.
    Also, if he doesn’t get injured, he can put a little distance from the idea he will get broken in the NFL. Durability takes time to establish.
    Last but not least, there might be a better level of competition at the RB position in the draft next year.
    All these are good reasons for him to stay one more year if I were advising him. It would make more sense if we knew excactly where he was projected to go, it might have been even later than 3rd or fourth round.

  24. For those asking why Deion is meddling (more than usual) – they both graduated (read: attended) North Fort Myers High School. When Devine was still in HS and getting into loads of trouble, the AD contacted Deion to see if he could reach out to Devine. See that link in Florios story “Devine steals Deion’s car” – it explains the situation a few years ago pretty well.
    Why anyone (especially is ex-teachers) see Deion as a role model, I’ll never fully understand. He was a punk in HS / college, and is at the pinnacle of narcissism as a player/ex-player…

  25. He is nowhere near as thick as Sproles is. He will be lucky to even get drafted. Take the blue and gold glasses off. He is like Rudy 5 foot nothing 100 nothing. Teams questioned Slaton’s size, and he is Brandon Jacobs compared to Devine. Not to mention the character issues that will take him off a lot of draft boards.

  26. With all the talk about how the 2010 draft will be the last without a rookie wage scale and that any draft worthy player should enter, has anyone thought that the talent pool may be overstaturated in 2010 and that with all these underclassmen leaving in 2010, players like Noel Devine may find themselves in the top half of the first round in 2011 with a diluted talent pool? Simple rules of supply and demand work in his favor. Oh and he gets another year of free tuition, room and board.

  27. Can we please stop with the “he plays for free” rhetoric?
    Noel Devine has a scholarship which, for out of state students such as himself, is valued at nearly $30,000 per year.
    That the university makes a profit from his abilities means little to me. Everyone who works for a major corporation is paid a pittance compared to the company’s bottom line, and the majority of them have college degrees that they paid for themselves.
    I’m sure there are currently approximately 28,000 WVU students–and who knows how many alumni, such as yourself–that wish they could be “abused” in the same manner as their beloved football heroes to have their college expenses vaporized by the university in return for an extended apprenticeship for a prospective 7-figure salary which most will never come close to earning regardless of their chosen field of study.
    Your less than subtle neo-Marxist proletariat interpretation of college football players is tired, as well as being an excuse made for those who choose not to take advantage of the opportunities presented to them, but probably only until your own son has a mountain of debt from a similarly mediocre state institution that also forces it’s star athletes to “play for free” prior to their golden tickets being punched by the professional league of their chosen athletic endeavor.
    I bet you won’t be such a holier-than-thou, elitist snob when that happens.
    And I also bet your alumni contributions will increase if said “abused” player leads your alma mater to a BCS bowl next season.

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