GLAAD wants answers about Mancrunch rejection

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation wants answers about why CBS rejected a proposed Super Bowl commercial from the gay website Mancrunch.com, but accepted a pro-life ad that will feature Florida QB Tim Tebow and his mother.

CBS has a problem when they do something like this at the same time as they allow an anti-gay group like Focus on the Family to place ads during the Super Bowl,” GLAAD president Jarrett Barrios said.  “This network should come clean to the public about what’s going on because this seems to be a homophobic double standard.”
While CBS may not deem Barrios’ inquiry worthy of response, it would be difficult to disagree that the network is operating with a double standard.
The rejected advertisement, posted by Gregg Rosenthal in a previous post that generated over 200 PFT comments, can be viewed here.

269 responses to “GLAAD wants answers about Mancrunch rejection

  1. I don’t see what the problem is for CBS. They were airing that Man from Glaad commercial years ago. Or maybe it was Glad…
    …never mind.

  2. It’s the conservative media !!!!! Funny, I’m not hearing any complaints about the evil liberal media on this. Where’s the outrage from the Right about loss of rights, unfairness, etc. ?

  3. Give me a break. This causes an uproar just like the Tim Tebow add did. In today’s world, you can’t lean too far left or right, if you do then you will catch heat for it. The Super Bowl is not the time for a parent to have to explain homosexuality to their children.
    GLADD wants answers eh? How about the fact that everyone who is homosexual understands that their lives will always be a little more difficult than that of others. If you are homosexual there isn’t a better time in history to be one than now. The world is more understanding now than ever. The sad truth remains that the Super Bowl is not the right place for it.

  4. I understand why they’re pissed off. Tim Tebow saying “Thanks, Mom, for giving me life” is exactly the same as “Man, that dude sure looks good with his hairy chest and cowboy hat! I gotta get me some of that!”

  5. There’s no way to say this without sounding bigoted, but that is not my intention. Why does CBS have to agree to put anything representative of any certain group on their network? I mean what if they don’t agree with GLAAD and don’t want to be affiliated with it. And it isn’t a double standard. Saying it’s a double standard would imply that it’s not alright to have an opinion about homosexuality. It’s like saying “wait a second CBS why do you like Chevy and not KIA or how come you’ll do a Dominos ad but not CiCi’s?” Barrio’s statement isn’t worth a response to them. He is always free to start his own major television network and advertise whatever he wants…

  6. Friggin’ stool pushers bangin’ for attention.
    Super Bowl is not the place or time for this kind of crap!

  7. Who cares what they want.
    It’s time we get rid of the amount of shit that pervades our television. This is a great step in that direction.

  8. This is where Aarron Rodgers needs to step up and speak on behalf of others in the gay community.

  9. Don’t force your freakish lifestyle on me. Besides, you had no intention of paying for a commercial-this is your commercial, bunch of turd gigs.

  10. Hey maybe it is not about whether homophobia is involved, but I dont think parents want to take time during the superbowl to explain to a 5 yr old why two men are kissing and going on a date. Parents want to control the time to discuss an confusing issue like this one.

  11. It’s weird, I watched this commercial the other day and I thought it was really funny, but I can kind of understand why a major network would not want to cause a maelstrom of anti-homosexuality sentiments from major conservative groups by showing two men embracing… Then I happened to catch a glimpse of an old episode of American Gladiators this morning where this guy was basically hanging intertwined with another guy while sporadically using his whole body to jerk the contestant off the jungle-gym-like obstacle. So apparently their is nothing more American than two guys going at it in front of everybody, they just have to be tighter red, white and blue spandex.

  12. I support the Tebow ad, despite the fact that it is deceptive and built on a lie.
    Abortion was illegal in the Phillipines when Tebow’s mom was supposed to have been given a “choice” (in the form of medical advice from a doctor to abort).
    In fact, abortion is illegal to this day in the Phillipines, and the medical community does not even suggest it as an option. The country is very religious and there are stiff penalties for abortions, inclusive of jail time.
    So you can imagine what it was like two decades ago. To think she was offered the service as an option is simply not credible.
    But don’t let reality get in the way of the story.
    My understanding was that false advertising was not acceptable.

  13. ManCrunch came up with a great strategy! Make an ad that CBS will not air. Go to CBS and tell them you want to air the ad for $2.5 million. Have CBS reject it. Complain about the rejection and get tons of free publicity for your site!

  14. Dixon, don’t you think some people have an issue with their children asking them what ‘erectile disfuction’ is?
    Because you know half the commercials will be dick medicine. It is the NFL’s bread and butter now that the auto advertising is down.

  15. Evan Silva: ” …it would be difficult to disagree that the network is operating with a double standard.”
    Keep your non-football opinions to yourself. It is ridiculous to call it a double standard. You embarrass yourself by calling it a double standard when it isn’t.
    Not even close. Tebow’s ad was screened by CBS and found to be done in good taste. FOcus on the Family is not going to produce anyhthing in poor taste. Controversial – maybe. Poor taste – never.
    The problem NOW and the rest of the arrogant liberal elite has is that when they say women should have a choice they find it offensive for someone to actually advocate choosing life.
    The vomit-inducing ad which CBS rejected is in extremely poor taste. Most people simply do not want to watch, nor have their children watch, two grown men kissing, necking and groping each other. If both ads were shown to a random group of 1000 people who were then asked which was more offensive the rejected ad would out-poll the Tebow ad 10-1.
    Also, there is no such thing as homophobia. Only ignorant people use the term. I know many people who disagree with the homosexual life-style. Not a single one of them is afraid of homosexuals. Having the courage to stand up for moral values is not a fear.

  16. Have they considered the fact that sodomy is against the law? Although they don’t show it on the commercial, why we and our children be forcefed alternative lifestyles? The nework has to censor inappropriate material by law, and sorry, but this is disgusting to the majority. Like anybody owes you an explantion! please.

  17. As much as they may want to say otherwise, there will never be a time in this country when homosexuality will be part of the mainstream American culture. It’s a don’t ask, don’t tell world and the Superbowl is family entertainment. An over the top ad depicting two men in an embrace, kissing, should be left for late night viewing for those who are not bothered by it.

  18. CBS would be using a double standard IF the Focus on Family ad was anti-gay or having something to do with homosexuality. But it doesn’t.
    Not to mention from seeing the ad it doesn’t seem dating is so much in the ad and just hooking up for sex. Does CBS run phone sex line ads in primetime? Its not exactly on par with Chemistry.com or Eharmony ads (regardless of how the couples are made up).

  19. Look, a whole segment of white Republican men is made uncomfortable by the ad. I get it.
    But why does that same demographic gravitate to a sport where oiled up muscle bound young men grapple with one another while wearing speedos? It’s called pro-wrestling.
    Because I think that is strange.

  20. This is simple.
    Gay ads are not appropriate for a show about manly men playing a manly sport, watched by Men who wish they could be that manly. They want commercials with beer, big boobs, big trucks, and fast food.
    Would they agree to run an ad for U.S. Border Patrol during some show about Mexicans? Or an ad for Anti-Gay protesters during the Ellen DeGeneris show?
    Businesses are not required to be stupid, or hurt their own businesses (except where the Americans with Disabilities Act is concerned, but that’s too far off topic).

  21. I wonder if NBC had the rights to the Super Bowl if they would have run the ad. They did put Will and Grace on all those years ago, so maybe they would have ran it. Guess we will never know.

  22. Great point, bigkaz. They’re getting a ton of free advertising out of this. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that this was the plan all along.
    That said, my feeling is that if a company has the money to pay the going rate for an ad, that the ad should be broadcast and the network shouldn’t have the right to turn it down. That said, the network likewise shouldn’t have to take the heat for it, either.
    Lots of “shoulds” in this world never happen though.

  23. I agree that ManCrunch did it to get the free publicity and probably would have crapped in their pants had CBS agreed to air the ad. That probably applies to Focus On The Family, as well. Sure, they have the money to pay for the ad but it would have been better if CBS had rejected their ad because they would have gotten the free publicity and could have used the $$$ on Fox News, where they would be preaching to the choir and probably gotten more bang for their buck.

  24. Why do they want an answer? Isn’t it obvious that two dudes making out will disgust most people, fire up the politicians and the FCC, and get CBS a bunch of hate mail and boycotts.
    Yeah, hmm, why doesn’t CBS want that kind of heat?

  25. Mooch, nice job of repeating talking points put out by people who would rather have Tebow’s mother abort. It’s good to know that you are such an expert on all things Filipino and medical that you can, from the safety and comfort of your mom’s basement, wave your hand and simply dismiss the story as “not credible.”
    Here’s a link to a newspaper story, so you can get a sense of exactly what was going on while Tim’s mother was pregnant and what she went through:
    http://www.gainesville.com/article/20071007/NEWS/710060317?p=1&tc=pg

  26. @ Dixon29 – KingJoe! – FumbleNuts
    so the superbowl is not the place for parents to explain homosexuality to kids, but it is the place for parents to explain the complexities of the pro-life / pro-choice debate?

  27. “Hey maybe it is not about whether homophobia is involved, but I dont think parents want to take time during the superbowl to explain to a 5 yr old why two men are kissing and going on a date. ”
    Totally. Imagine having to take time out from the violence, the alcohol ads, the cheerleaders, all the sex in the commercials, and getting drunk with your friends to have to explain something to a five year old!

  28. Like usual, here is Florio posting comments from people who add nothing to the conversation except for homophobic slurs.
    I’m pro life, but I don’t think that commercial belongs anywhere near the SuperBowl. And if you’re afraid to explain two guys aggressively hugging/faux kissing, how easy will it be to explain a commercial about killing unborn babies to a five year old?
    Regardless of the message, if you’re going to ban one, ban both.

  29. @ ZAGGS – focus on the family is absolutely anti-gay
    @Halftime let me guess, you don’t like minorities either.

  30. Madden…
    You are right, for them to buy a SB Bowl ad would be a waste of $. Which is why I also suspect they never intended to buy one and our discussion and those like it is the buzz they wanted to get.
    That said, CBS will allow you to buy a spot even if the audience is not a good fit. They aren’t going to refuse your cash because you’ve made a dumb decision. Look at half the spots you see tonight, half are off-target and therefore a waste of money.
    But that is not CBS’ job to make that decision. One example was a Perdue ad that ran on a 60 Minutes episode exposing the US poultry industry. They never called the agency to warn them. It is not their job.
    Their job is to make $.
    AFW – yep, I agree. They can do what they want. But why make up a story about being told to abort your child?

  31. I wonder if NBC had the rights to the Super Bowl if they would have run the ad. They did put Will and Grace on all those years ago, so maybe they would have ran it. Guess we will never know.

  32. “GLAAD WANTS ANSWERS ABOUT MANCRUNCH REJECTION”
    Dang it. Now I’ll forever hear the word “answers” spoken with a slight lisp in my head now.

  33. The double standard is CBS is willing to show a commercial in favor of one side of a “controversial” subject, but not willing to show something as controversial as a gay dating site. And yeah, believe it or not “pro-choice” is also controversial. Like I want to hear how something that can’t breath on it’s own constitutes “precious” life.

  34. Homosexuals will never be accepted in America? OK Nostradamus.
    Just like women would never be able to vote, blacks would never be free or become President. Kinda like how the South would never be able to recover from the Civil War and act like grownups.
    Well…2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
    In 10 years this will all sound as silly as segregated water fountains in the Jim Crow South.

  35. Football?
    Pretty clear sign of poor economy when CBS has to consider these ads instead of the Pepsi, GM, Wal-Marts of the world.
    Where’s Cougarlife.com’s ad? Clearly CBS has a bias against 40 year old women.

  36. Mancrunch – that has to be the faggiest website name ever.
    (Faggy in the Michael Scott context, of course. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…)

  37. Rumor has it…..The proposed ad had one Skelator, and one Joe Dirt Lookalike, staring up at a huge TV, picking their respective noses, while playing Magic:The Gathering, with “Endless Love’ playing softly in the background.

  38. Lou Dog,
    I KNOW. BUT THERE IS A PART OF THE STORY THAT DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH REALITY…
    Doctors later told Pam that her placenta had detached from the uterine wall, a condition known as placental abruption, which can deprive the fetus of oxygen and nutrients. Doctors expected a stillbirth, Pam said, and they encouraged her to terminate the pregnancy.
    “They thought I should have an abortion to save my life from the beginning all the way through the seventh month,” she recalled.
    THE MEDICAL STAFF COULD NOT OFFER HER A “CHOICE”. PHILLIPINE LAW MAKES NO EXCEPTIONS FOR ABORTION.
    EVEN IF THE MOTHER’S LIFE IS IN DANGER, ABORTION IS NOT AN OPTION OVER THERE.

  39. Mooch,
    Children don’t care about erectile dysfunction because it doesn’t come right out and say what it is thus not allowing kids to understand what the ad is about.
    Big Stretch,
    The Tim Tebow ad to my understanding isn’t going to be a Pro-life ad, but a Pro family ad. Kids would not need that to be explained to them(or so I hope).

  40. People have a right to do what they want. People have the right to choose abortion OR life (and that is the way it should be…having a choice). People are gay, they are doing what they want (I don’t think it’s a choice I think they are born that way but that is just my opinion). And CBS has the right to not air a commercial if they want. Get over it, publicity whores.

  41. I will never look at Capt Crunch the same way….. That being said what’s next? Tiger Woods with a commercial about how banging tons of chicks is a lifestyle to be taught to our kids? Farmers in Monatana drooling over sexy sheep? Sexual preference should remain a private matter. Homos that want to put their manlove in your face are the ones that create the disdain. I know plenty of gay people that are good people and don’t hide the fact that they are gay but don’t try to shove it down your throat either. Ok bad choice of words but u get the point

  42. BLAME CBS. The networks have had a longstanding tradition of turning down Super Bowl ads from liberal and conservative groups. When CBS decided to break that tradition by accepting Tebow’s Focus on the Family ad, they opened the door to all this controversy. Quoting today’s editorial in the L.A. Times:
    “[Y]ou really ought to be able to watch a football game without being confronted with another person’s views on abortion, or the treatment of veal calves. … There are moments when we open ourselves to moral persuasion, and moments when we’re entitled to simple recreation. It’s the sort of distinction on which civility relies.”
    CBS is reaping what they’ve sown–and they should NEVER again get the right to air the Super Bowl.

  43. LouDawg.
    There’s this thing called the internet. On the internet, you can LEARN about other countries! Even their laws, morals, and practices.
    But since reality so often conflicts with your belief system, maybe its best to keep your head in the sand.

  44. “The Super Bowl is not the time for a parent to have to explain homosexuality to their children.”
    THIS.

  45. The gay ad is not “tame” by the standards of parents who have young children. Anyone who can’t see this is the truly insensitive one. And the only way this would be a double standard is if they were trying to run a pro-abortion ad.

  46. @Edgy1957
    That probably applies to Focus On The Family, as well. Sure, they have the money to pay for the ad…
    ================================
    Focus on the Family laid off 500 employees in September 2009. I hope the $2.5 million they spent on their commercial was worth it because there are 500 families that don’t feel like they received any Focus.

  47. The use of the word “homophobic” is so overused, and rarely appropriately, therefore it is sapped of it’s meaning and is simply a buzzword. Yawn.

  48. Abortion is illegal in the Philippines? Yet somehow in the 1986 election Corazon Aquino who was a female, won the election. So a country where a woman can’t terminate a pregnancy can instead be President. Glad to see that every country has it’s own issues.

  49. Dixon – I wasn’t equating the Cialis ad with the Tebow ad.
    Ads air that do say that use the “e” word, but the NFL and CBS don’t care because they make money off it.

  50. If anyone cares, CBS classified the rejected ad as purely commercial whereas the Tebow ad is considered an advocacy ad.
    If a group wanted to run an advocacy ad about man-to-man relations which is done in a tasteful manner, CBS would consider the ad and probably run it. But, according to CBS, it would have to meet their standards – standards which CBS had long before this situation arose.
    Tebow’s ad does. The rejected ad doesn’t. Hence the rejection. It’s that simple. No double standard.

  51. Deb – that’s the real point.
    Lookit, if Tebow and his mom want to come on and do their thing, that’s great. I happen to like the kid, and would like my team to draft him.
    But when CBS accepts the ad, they open themselves up to this. They open themselves up to angry viewers and boycotts, which are particularly damaging to a company whose product is priced based on how many people watch.
    They lose the right to turn down ads without consequences. And the fact that they turned down liberal advocacy ads in the past becomes an issue. As it would – and should – if it was a conservative ad getting 86’d.

  52. “Look, a whole segment of white Republican men is made uncomfortable by the ad. I get it.
    But why does that same demographic gravitate to a sport where oiled up muscle bound young men grapple with one another while wearing speedos? It’s called pro-wrestling.
    Because I think that is strange.”
    Seriously? I think that you’re an idiot for generalizing like that. All Republicans enjoy professional wrestling, huh? Fool. Then again we already knew that you have limited intellectual capacity, being an 0-3gle fan and all.

  53. @ Dixon29 –
    a commercial stating that TeBLOW’s mom had the choice of abortion or life supported by an organization that does not believe that homosexuals should have the same basics rights of any other human being is not only pro-life but anti-gay.
    personally i could care less about the TeBLOW ad or the mancrunch ad, but it is ridiculous to think that airing the Pro-life ad is acceptable and not airing the mancrunch ad, which by the way resembles a bad SNL skit, is unacceptable.
    and for all you people that make fun of gay people I hope it is done in jest, because most of you know someone (family/friend) who is gay.

  54. Where’s the outrage from the Right about loss of rights, unfairness, etc. ?
    We have none. We’re delighted….for once things go our way.

  55. It’s not as if any ad from the Super bowl or any other programming, is actually going to influence anyone from doing anything they don’t want to…..If so, we’d all own snuggies, flowbees (Which I think is really Florio’s barber) etc…….America is about free speech, let them speak. All i Know is, that Dorito girl a couple of years ago was Hot, but i didn’t rush out to buy doritos…..Who cares

  56. never even heard of MANCRUNCH,… i thought it was a reference to the ESPN jock sniffers gushing over Brett Farve & Peyton Manning

  57. Do not think the rejection has as much to do with CBS as it does the NFL. These TV Stations have gay shows on out the wazoo and happens to be part of the reason I went to Direct TV. But it has to be more to do with the NFL. And last I checked it was a Free Country.

  58. The TeBLOW’s are full of shit and Gloria Allred is planning on calling them out. From an interview she did –
    Allred slams the ad and CBS’s decision to air it, pointing out factual inconsistencies with Pam’s story. One glaring one is the fact that the act of abortion is totally illegal in the majority Catholic country of the Philippines – under all circumstances including rape and incest, and even without a provision in the circumstance that the mother’s life is in danger. The law has been in effect since 1930.
    Allred says she believes it an impossible scenario to believe that [Filipino] doctors would [have] ever suggested abortion as a viable option for Tebow in the first place. And when you learn that physicians and midwives who perform abortions in the Philippines face six years in prison, and may have their licenses suspended or revoked, and that women who receive abortions – no matter the reason – may be punished with imprisonment for two to six years, it’s easy to see why.
    Gloria Allred is threatening to sue CBS if they run the Tebow ad, saying if the ad fails to disclose that abortions were illegal at the time Tebow made her “choice”, “I intend to file a formal complaint of misleading advertising with those federal commissions.”

  59. “Abortion was illegal in the Phillipines when Tebow’s mom was supposed to have been given a “choice” (in the form of medical advice from a doctor to abort).
    In fact, abortion is illegal to this day in the Phillipines, and the medical community does not even suggest it as an option. The country is very religious and there are stiff penalties for abortions, inclusive of jail time.”
    I suppose it never entered into your tiny head that the Philippines are just a small chain of islands and that there are indeed other places in the world that you can go to get a legal abortion. God forbid offending you idiots by suggesting that having the baby is an option when it’s so much easier to throw it away like yesterday’s garbage.

  60. GLAAD WANTS ANSWERS
    I give you answers, nobody (outside of maybe SF and Minneapolis) wants to see two guys kissing. Now stick two lezzies in there chewing on each other and we can get rid of the entire half time show.
    Seriously folks, GLAAD thinks buying gerbils by the dozen constitutes good clean fun. Just go away, advertise on the Viking’s games where your target audience is and leave the rest of us alone.

  61. Dixon – the Phillipines is a conservative Catholic nation way back from Spanish colonial days. So I have no idea what kind of logic went into your post, or what it was trying to communicate.
    Think of it like Ireland, where laws are very restrictive (if not an outright ban) despite it being an industrialized Western country.

  62. Big Strecth……….. Tebow holds more class in his little finger than you have in your whole body.
    Tebow in his young 20s has already done more good for people than you……… Never mind.
    Did you go to college to come up with the name, “TeBlow?” You should be so proud.

  63. @LouDawg …
    I appreciate the link to the article in the Gainesville Sun. I’m not questioning Mrs. Tebow’s truthfulness, and I’m thankful her story had a happy ending. But her account doesn’t change the fact that the Phillipines is a strict Catholic country where abortion has been illegal since the 1800s, and no exception is made to save the life of the mother. About half a million Phillipine women have backstreet abortions each year. If they’re caught, they face up to six years in prison. Anyone helping them will receive the same sentence, and doctors will also lose their licenses to practice.
    You can read details in this article, written more than two years ago, so it’s not propaganda conjured to counter Mrs. Tebow:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSMAN29804620070905
    Perhaps the doctors were suggesting she return to the United States and abort the child, although it sounds as though she was too ill to make that journey. Between having a backstreet abortion or delivering a stillborn child, she would have had less health risk from delivering a stillborn, so it’s hard to imagine they suggested the backstreet abortion–which was the only option they could offer locally. And since they could not perform a medical abortion or assist her in getting a backstreet abortion without risking imprisonment and loss of livelihood, it seems odd that they would offer that advice.
    At any rate, these are not issues I want put to me or my family–especially the young children in my family–during the Super Bowl. I just want to watch the game in peace.

  64. All the manly men around here planning to spend their day watching studly muscular bucks banging into each other obviously have their own repressed sexual identity issues.
    Once CBS opened the door for issue ads — as in any ad selling an idea or position, not a product — they should not be able to pick and choose unless the advocated issue is illegal.
    This episode slams the door in the lie of the “liberal media” once and for all.

  65. “I’m pro life, but I don’t think that commercial belongs anywhere near the SuperBowl. And if you’re afraid to explain two guys aggressively hugging/faux kissing, how easy will it be to explain a commercial about killing unborn babies to a five year old?”
    Actually it’s probably closer to a commercial about NOT killing unborn babies, which should be considered a pretty obvious no-no for a five year old without getting into a discussion of all of the extenuating circumstances.

  66. # Halftime says: January 30, 2010 5:50 PM
    If anyone cares, CBS classified the rejected ad as purely commercial whereas the Tebow ad is considered an advocacy ad.
    If a group wanted to run an advocacy ad about man-to-man relations which is done in a tasteful manner, CBS would consider the ad and probably run it. But, according to CBS, it would have to meet their standards – standards which CBS had long before this situation arose.
    Tebow’s ad does. The rejected ad doesn’t. Hence the rejection. It’s that simple. No double standard.
    —————————————————
    first off the advocacy vs. commercial argument is bullshit red tape that CBS is hiding behind.
    second off how is it you are confident that if the mancrunch was an “advocacy” ad that CBS would air it?
    just admit the thought of 2 men kissing is more than your narrow view on the world can handle.
    Guys who are uncomfortable with any homosexual material are generally not secure in their own heterosexuality.

  67. CBS=Constantly Blowin’ S**t
    Really, did they not think that a progressive organization would not try to get their commercial on the Super Bowl too? I am not for or against either, but it completely blows their “oh we are just doing for the profit” excuse. I don’t care if they show either, and honestly I wish they would show neither, as the Super Bowl is about football and not who you want to make out with or what you do with the contents of your uterus.

  68. “The problem NOW and the rest of the arrogant liberal elite has is that when they say women should have a choice they find it offensive for someone to actually advocate choosing life.”
    That’s the truth. The libs think that having a choice is fine so long as you choose what they want you to choose.

  69. “AFW – yep, I agree. They can do what they want. But why make up a story about being told to abort your child?”
    To make liberal idiots ask stupid questions.

  70. Mooch,
    I was merely bringing to light the irony that they are ahead of the times by electing a woman president, yet abortion is still illegal. Of course, after Marcos, the Bogeyman could have won that election.

  71. @WhoDatWhoDat –
    I did go to college, but my formal education had nothing to do with the TeBLOW nickname….That was all me……Go Noles!!!!!!!!
    Sure he has done more than me on a football field I am not questioning that, and I do think he is a decent person, but I don’t need some evangelical zealot preaching to me about what decisions I should make in my life while I watch a football game.
    I forgot to mention the “more” he did included performing circumcisions on little boys, you would think he would be all for the mancrunch ad with those credentials.

  72. “Like I want to hear how something that can’t breath on it’s own constitutes “precious” life.”
    Maybe we’ll revisit the question if one of your family is ever put on a respirator, God forbid.

  73. to bearsrule: The reason the far leftist media types out there haven’t jumped all over this about “their rights” in this situation is that they have none.
    CBS owns the exclusive rights to air the super bowl this year (and maybe several years to come…Florio, get on that). As OWNING such rights, they also have to right to receive submissions from companies for adds who want to contend for the most coveted advertisement time in the US market, and maybe the world. In this arrangement, CBS execs assume a gatekeeper function that judges many times do in evidentiary hearings—i.e. based upon their discretion (for CBS, personal, for judges, legal), they make any decision they please.
    During the Super Bowl, there are only a finite number of commercial slots that can be given, and probably may more submissions (probably two to three times as many…Florio, get on it) than can be accepted. That being the case, CBS can pick and choose whatever they want in light of other contractual arrangements (e.g. Coors Light getting guaranteed spots as the official beer sponsor of the NFL, etc.) and form whatever schedule they so choose when it comes to the commercial selection.
    So this brings us to an interesting proposition: GLAAD is not dumb; they in fact probably have an army of 1st Amendment/Constitutional lawyers on the payroll who told them exactly what I summarized above. So that begs the question: why was the ad submitted in the first place when it was almost certainly known that it had no chance of every getting on the air during the Super Bowl–added to the fact that GLAAD almost assuredly knew about the ad was going to be submitted far before it actually was?
    My Take: The ad was put together to take a run at the hyper masculine and by consequence, highly documented homophobic culture surrounding the NFL. GLAAD publicized the submission to the world as it was being submitted, to place CBS in the cross hairs/spotlight. GLAAD knew it would fail to make the cut, and then it would use the opportunity to bash major network execs for their apparent “double standard” and bigotry, gaining more publicity and more fire for their “cause” than they would have ever gotten had they just approved it and shown it. GLAAD was strategic with every move in this mess, and they never intended for the ad (which would be seen regardless bc of our YouTube generation) to be shown during the SB.
    Lastly, in response to the byline “GLAAD wants answers about Mancrunch rejection”, CBS has no legal obligation to tell them why they rejected their ad. It could have been rejected bc it portrayed two men making out (albeit a little funny, and SNLish) and they did not want to push that onto America; or it could have been rejected because they didn’t like the two teams’ whose jerseys were in the ad. It is their call, because they hold the rights and can whatever they want with them. 14th Amendment equal protection does not touch this.

  74. @ # .VoxVeritas says: January 30, 2010 6:18 PM
    “The problem NOW and the rest of the arrogant liberal elite has is that when they say women should have a choice they find it offensive for someone to actually advocate choosing life.”
    That’s the truth. The libs think that having a choice is fine so long as you choose what they want you to choose.
    —————————————————–
    Liberals do not care what choice women make, they only care that women are allowed to make a choice.

  75. “Gay ads are not appropriate for a show about manly men playing a manly sport, watched by Men who wish they could be that manly.”
    I take issue with your statement. It’s not particularly “manly” to put on 30 pounds of pads and beat the hell out of a bunch of other guys that are wearing 30 pounds of pads. It IS “manly” to live up to your responsibilities, to work hard to support your family and do the right thing by them.

  76. it’s good to see some insightful comments about the issue here. however, it’s still very disappointing to see some people use the word “fag.” how insecure are you that you are so threatened by another person’s sexual preference? it isn’t about being left or right, it’s about respecting people, regardless of your political and religious positions.

  77. Superbowl ads are for beer job sites and pizza and lets not forget Go Daddy
    Of course now they want to take the whole go daddy thing in a different direction
    Its a time for Beer T&A
    I do think it funny that they had a packer fan as one of the gay guys guess he is a fudge packer

  78. Typical idiotic Vox post. This argument is way over your head. You do not even know what the debate is.
    “I suppose it never entered into your tiny head that the Philippines are just a small chain of islands and that there are indeed other places in the world that you can go to get a legal abortion.”
    But that is not what she said. She said she was offered one in the Phillipines by Filipino doctors. And she was a Catholic missionary who supposedly got this advice. And that is where it becomes clear the story is embellished.
    What a great story it is – even without the fake “advice” part. Why do the Repubs always have to add in fake parts to make the story sound better? Her son is a great example of how high-risk pregnancies can have happy endings. Extraordinary endings. But that wasn’t good enough, I guess. It had to be jazzed up.

  79. “Homosexuals will never be accepted in America? OK Nostradamus.”
    He said that it will never be a part of mainstream American culture. Dude, of all people in this discussion you need to bow out while you still have your psyche intact.

  80. If someone if finally saying no to these kinds of commercials, which offend a great deal of people and I view as inappropriate, then I say great. Thank you. Next step is to get this crap off of every TV show.

  81. .VoxVeritas says:
    January 30, 2010 6:07 PM
    God forbid offending you idiots by suggesting that having the baby is an option when it’s so much easier to throw it away like yesterday’s garbage.
    _________________________________
    Are you the voice of reason? You gotta get some ass for that to even be a remote possibility champ…

  82. Tim Tebow ad: Every human being has the right to live, regardless of how small or weak. It is an ad that recognizes human dignity and promotes the right to live. As a former fetus, I find nothing wrong with this ad. I’m glad I was given a chance to live.
    Mancrunch ad: Because nothing says true love like sodomy and worrying about contracting HIV from your partner. I have no problem with what gays do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children.
    When a young child asks “Why are those 2 men kissing?”, I respond “That’s because their brains don’t work right like the rest of us. Don’t imitate that behavior- it’s never right. They’re just sick people.”

  83. Stupid questions – like why are people lying about things easily proven to be false?
    Maybe you can ask that clown you voted to be VP, she lies all the time. And as a bonus, she uses her kid as a prop to sell more books.
    But you like to follow like a sheep.

  84. So its not ok for parents to half to explain to little kids about gays but its ok to have to explain to them about abortion? You guys are all morons.

  85. With all the homophobia in the comments section, I think all of you here are afraid to confront your true feelings by watching the commercial.
    I’m sure if it were two chicks making out you’d all be fine, just like the Miller Lite commercial with the two Rubber-made titty bitches half naked and wrestling in the fountain. How is that any different?

  86. A commercial about homosexuality would seriously, seriously ruin my ability to appreciate the lingere bowl.

  87. And as a PS – I think it is great that Palin had the choice to bring Trig to term.
    Exercising the choice she’d deny others is very admirable.

  88. note, however, vox, that while libs mandate diversity of skin color and (supposedly) sexual preference/orientation, they mandate zero diversity in thought/speech.
    and to hell with that…
    all the stuff the libs are pushing today are the same things that were pushed in attempted and successful commie takeovers. a gay-friendly society is no longer good or great. such a society is on the way down, and fast.
    ///////////////////
    most people arent gay and even if they dont want gays’ heads bashed in, they dont want to see, or especially want their kids to see, gay ads or other gay bs on teevee or elsewhere.
    the south was great and was a civilization, and most honkies didnt actually own slaves. most of the chas schumer and gloria allred types, however, did own slaves, especially in south carolina and louisiana.
    wake the f@#$ up.
    ///////////////////
    gloria allred isnt just pro-choice. she is pro-abortion. for your potential kids, not her own.
    if one wants to acuse tebow of preaching, fine. but he is preaching life.
    allread and co, are preaching DEATH. for you and yours. she believes you and yours are expendable. NOW.
    it is amazing just how propagandized a lot of you are.
    pro-choice is a cute euphemism used to justify killing inconvenient humans. how long till allred and co decide YOU are inconvenient?

  89. The process of obtaining an abortion in the
    Philippines can be a long and arduous one, and
    there is no assurance of success. Fewer than one in
    three women who seek an abortion complete the
    process.1 Many women endure multiple attempts—some
    with serious health consequences—before terminating
    their pregnancy or giving up on obtaining an abortion.
    Women are so concerned about the consequences of an
    unintended pregnancy that many are willing to risk their
    freedom, their health and even their lives to end it.
    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/08/08/PhilippinesUPIA.pdf
    I’m not sure about the date of the Tebow incident but it appears that abortion isn’t illegal in the Philippines.

  90. “I KNOW. BUT THERE IS A PART OF THE STORY THAT DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH REALITY…”
    It doesn’t match up with YOUR reality because YOUR reality is a very narrow supposition, narrow because it’s the only way to make Tebow’s mom look like she was lying. And don’t think that you were being smart by slipping your “the medical community does not even suggest it as an option” crap into your construction. Not only is that impossible to determine NOW, it’s impossible to determine 23 years ago. Fact is that a survey (Singh S, Wulf D and Jones H, Induced abortion in South Central and Southeast Asia: results of a survey of health professionals, International Family Planning Perspectives, 1997, 23(2):59–67. ) proves that abortion IS and HAS NOT ONLY BEEN recommended by the medical community, but also that medically safe abortions are performed by trained professionals in the Philippines for the more well-to-do women that seek them.
    Just walk away.

  91. @ Debacled
    hopefully you are just trying to stir shit up. but if that is what you really think then I feel sorry for you and any children that are exposed to your hate and stupidity.
    small minded jackass

  92. “Focus on the Family laid off 500 employees in September 2009. I hope the $2.5 million they spent on their commercial was worth it because there are 500 families that don’t feel like they received any Focus.”
    I doubt that they need you to speak for them.

  93. @ slipkid
    “most people arent gay and even if they dont want gays’ heads bashed in, they dont want to see, or especially want their kids to see, gay ads or other gay bs on teevee or elsewhere.
    —————————————————-
    way to take it to a whole new level of dumb

  94. Debacled’s view has been used throughout history…
    I have no problem with what Jews do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by wearing those things on their heads.
    I have no problem with what blacks do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by coming across the tracks and eating in our restaurants.
    I have no problem with what women do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by voting or going to work.
    You are on the wrong side of history with your bigotry.
    Oh, and the 300 Spartans. All gay.

  95. if i saw that commercial on the superbowl i would turn off the game in fear it would go on again.
    now maybe if it was 2 women then hell yeah but damm that was just wrong a packers fan and a vikings fan thats just perverse

  96. if he wasnt born he wouldnt have just coughed up the ball on a fumble!
    more proof abortion is the only thing that helps!

  97. Better this than another shitty Sears ad or Wrangler ad from that media whore Favre.
    Besides all Viking fans are having gay thoughts about him anyway –
    they shouldn’t be insulted.

  98. Jeez, I wonder how many people making anti-gay comments here are Southern inbreds. My guess is 100%.

  99. “I think that you’re an idiot for generalizing like that.”
    Just like all those fat, lazy stupid Eagles fans, right, vox? They probably generalize a lot. Every single one of them. There’s no getting around it. Anyone who makes generalizations is an idiot. You don’t do that, right? That would be almost as bad as flaunting one’s perceived superior intellect while impugning or that of the next guy. As I’m sure you well know, doing so is a manifestation of one’s own insecurity, not to mention the attendant total lack of class. I know you’re big on class, so such behavior must irritate you to no end.
    At least there’s a bright side. Better to have to deal with all those fat, lazy stupid, generalizing Eagles fans (who you could easily put in their places by intimidating them with your Witten jersey) than even one fraudulent, transparent, delusional, internet trolling social misfit. Right?

  100. Mooch, how can you prove that she is lying?
    Do you have powers of omniscience? Prove it. What word am I thinking of? I’ll give you a hint: it starts with the letter “d” and rhymes with “douchebag.”
    They saw American doctors. Abortion was legal in 1988 and was taught in most medical schools, so it is not outside the realm of possibility that an American doctor would counsel an American woman to get an abortion – either in the Philipines or elsewhere. Not only that, but abortion was illegal for most of our history. Yet we hear about women having illegal abortions all the time – specifically, whenever anybody proposes placing even the tiniest restriction on it.
    You keep repeating one potential factoid (not provable or disprovable, but to you, it is the gospel truth) fed to you by people who want all pregnancies to end in abortion. Bravo for you. You are a useful tool.

  101. “a commercial stating that TeBLOW’s mom had the choice of abortion or life supported by an organization that does not believe that homosexuals should have the same basics rights of any other human being is not only pro-life but anti-gay.”
    What basic rights of humans do homosexuals not enjoy?
    “and for all you people that make fun of gay people I hope it is done in jest, because most of you know someone (family/friend) who is gay.”
    Uhhh yyyeah most “making fun” stuff is done in jest. Don’t like it? Stop letting other guys ram you in the ass, because I think that’s funny as hell and I will make fun of it just like I make fun of other segments of society. Like 0-3gle fans for instance.

  102. Why is homosexuality hard to explain to children? It’s a lot easier to explain that the commercials that have extreme violence in them. For instance, we stopped watching baseball on FOX when my young son asked “Why is that woman being pushed off a bridge?”

  103. truushot says:
    January 30, 2010 6:40 PM
    The process of obtaining an abortion in the
    Philippines can be a long and arduous one, and
    there is no assurance of success. Fewer than one in
    three women who seek an abortion complete the
    process.1 Many women endure multiple attempts—some
    with serious health consequences—before terminating
    their pregnancy or giving up on obtaining an abortion.
    Women are so concerned about the consequences of an
    unintended pregnancy that many are willing to risk their
    freedom, their health and even their lives to end it.
    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/08/08/PhilippinesUPIA.pdf
    I’m not sure about the date of the Tebow incident but it appears that abortion isn’t illegal in the Philippines.
    /////////////////////////////////////////
    It doesn’t matter. Women in the Philipines don’t ever get abortions. They don’t even know what they are because nobody ever talks about it and doctors never, ever speak of it.
    How do I know? Because Mooch said so.

  104. Rich women can always get abortions, dope. Is it legal? Yes or no? Answer. Because that has everything to do with her story.
    “…but also that medically safe abortions are performed by trained professionals in the Philippines for the more well-to-do women that seek them.”
    She wasn’t SEEKING one! Her story is that she was OFFERED one. That it was medical advice. By doctors who could go to jail and lose their license for doing so. And she was a Catholic missionary they were telling this to? Please.
    That sounds plausible to you?
    Let me guess, you got spoon fed that off the Limbaugh site…

  105. “The TeBLOW’s are full of shit and Gloria Allred is planning on calling them out. From an interview she did – ”
    Gloria Allred, like most lawyers, is an idiot. She’s a particularly stupid idiot because all she cares about is keeping her name in the news. Let her sue. She’ll lose, and she’ll still be an idiot.

  106. “But her account doesn’t change the fact that the Phillipines is a strict Catholic country where abortion has been illegal since the 1800s, and no exception is made to save the life of the mother. About half a million Phillipine women have backstreet abortions each year. If they’re caught, they face up to six years in prison. Anyone helping them will receive the same sentence, and doctors will also lose their licenses to practice.”
    It’s a good thing that we have laws to keep people from doing anything illegal. They work so well, that’s why nobody’s in jail anywhere in the world.
    In the history of motor vehicles, not a single STOP sign has ever stopped a car.

  107. antneejay2 says:
    January 30, 2010 6:54 PM
    Anyone who makes generalizations is an idiot.
    //////////////////////////////////////////
    LOL. Classic.

  108. Let them go buy their own netwrok and they can air what they want.
    Glaad has the right to make a homophobe commercial and CBS has the right to deny it. It’s not a government run network, they can air what they want, for the most part, if it doesn’t have anything to do with nipples.

  109. “Liberals do not care what choice women make, they only care that women are allowed to make a choice.”
    Unless that choice is to not abort an unborn fetus, which is what this is all about.

  110. Rich women can always get abortions, dope. Is it legal? Yes or no? Answer. Because that has everything to do with her story.
    “…but also that medically safe abortions are performed by trained professionals in the Philippines for the more well-to-do women that seek them.”
    She wasn’t SEEKING one! Her story is that she was OFFERED one. That it was medical advice. By doctors who could go to jail and lose their license for doing so. And she was a Catholic missionary they were telling this to? Please.
    That sounds plausible to you?
    Let me guess, you got spoon fed that off the Limbaugh site…
    You do realize you sound like a moron don’t you?
    What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with this?
    Google… typed in Philippines abortion in case of death risk.
    That result was the second response.
    You allow your anger to rule your narrow little world. Of course some liberal site or person told you that it was illegal and it would never be mentioned. Moron.

  111. Rich women can always get abortions, dope. Is it legal? Yes or no? Answer. Because that has everything to do with her story.
    “…but also that medically safe abortions are performed by trained professionals in the Philippines for the more well-to-do women that seek them.”
    She wasn’t SEEKING one! Her story is that she was OFFERED one. That it was medical advice. By doctors who could go to jail and lose their license for doing so. And she was a Catholic missionary they were telling this to? Please.
    That sounds plausible to you?
    Let me guess, you got spoon fed that off the Limbaugh site…
    You do realize you sound like a moron don’t you?
    What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with this?
    Google… typed in Philippines abortion in case of death risk.
    That result was the second response.
    You allow your anger to rule your narrow little world. Of course some liberal site or person told you that it was illegal and it would never be mentioned. Moron.

  112. They’re right to protest because all broadcasts involving Favre turn out to be very uncomfortably gay, especially when Joe Buck is the announcer.

  113. “”I suppose it never entered into your tiny head that the Philippines are just a small chain of islands and that there are indeed other places in the world that you can go to get a legal abortion.”
    “But that is not what she said. She said she was offered one in the Phillipines by Filipino doctors.”
    Uhhhh no, she never said that. She said it was recommended by doctors in the Philippines. Filipino doctors? Maybe. US military doctors? Maybe. Witch doctors? Doubtful, but maybe. You further weaken your poorly-conceived talking points by selectively revising the facts. Do not presume that everyone is as intellectually limited as yourself. You obviously see that your argument is crap to have to resort to such tactics. Just move the hell on already.

  114. “Are you the voice of reason?”
    No. I’m the voice of truth, whether you think it’s reasonable or not.

  115. “Stupid questions – like why are people lying about things easily proven to be false?”
    Do you mean like you saying that Tebow’s mom said that Filipino doctors offered to give her an abortion?

  116. @vox
    as a person who actually carries pro-life as a personal policy but actually believes that the decision should be available in cases concerning extenuating extreme circumstances, I find you do an inadequate job reinforcing your arguments. When you took issue, regarding the use of “manly” in a previous statement, never really said what he said was wrong in his statement. It also seems to me that you do not take into account that the conservative movement regarding abortion is to outlaw it, whereas the liberal movement is simply to maintain the option and not to illegalize the right to choose life. Do not get me wrong I fully support cbs’ right not to air the mancrunch ad because as far as I know CBS is not a government run network (thank God) but I myself find it funnier than most of the crappy commercials in the past few sb’s.

  117. LouDog and Vox…read the penal code. It is pretty clear.
    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/08/08/PhilippinesUPIA.pdf
    Not sure what more there is to say on this one. It’s pretty clearly illegal.
    So here is what you believe…
    A medical team looked at a pregnant American woman who was a Chiristian missionary.
    They tell this Christian missionary that her fetus may not be up to snuff, that she should abort it even though her own life is not in danger.
    They do this even though abortion is illegal. Even though they could lose their license to practice and face jail time. Even though the Cathlic church in their nation is very conservatice and constantly preaches against it.
    Oh, and the practice is illegal and very unsafe for the mother they are looking to “help”.
    This is your story? You find this plausible?
    My take is that the story is flimsy, and I back that up with facts that back up my belief. And of course I wasn’t there, never claimed to be.
    Your argument is that you like the story and want to believe it. Zero evidence.
    You must both be very successful in life.

  118. I agree it’s hypocritical to broadcast an anti-abortion ad but disallow a pro-gay rights ad, but I also think CBS has the right to choose what airs on their network.
    If CBS doesn’t want to promote homosexuality, then it’s their right to do so, just like it’s another network’s right to promote it.
    In the end this isn’t going to keep any of us from actually watching the game, so CBS = 1, gay commercial not airing during the Super Bowl = 0

  119. Can’t they mix the two commercials together? We could have Tebow’s mom happy that she didn’t have an abortion even though against doctor’s recommendation to him being the homo dressed in the Packer uniform?

  120. Lou, now making up facts.
    Abortion was illegal in the Phillipines at that time. Still is. That is beyond dispute, so stop pretending it was legal.
    Ya know, I am happy you sent me that story, as it is useful in disproving your ‘beliefs’ on what is true.
    She saw Filipino doctors before being moved to Manila, where it is noted that she saw American doctors.
    Those American doctors may have told her this. They may have urged her to go to the US and get an abortion. You are correct. That could have occurred. Sounds totally plausible.
    BUT…that wasn’t her story. She says the first advice was to abort. That is where it gets fishy.
    The report you cited makes it clear that abortion IS NOT taught in the Phillipines. That even most doctors do not know the procedure (because it is illegal and they could go to jail if they did it) and usually falls to midwives and the mother herself (and even unintentional abortion is punishable by prison time).
    Hey man, I make one key assumption based on facts. You just made about 50 based on personal opinion about what you wish to be true.
    Who wants all pregnancies to end in abortion? Who is this boogeyman that wants to end the human race? Please, enlighten me Yoda.

  121. @ VoxVeritas
    Marriage? I’m not a believer in it, but there are plenty of religious homosexual people who do not have the right to marry the person they love. Is that basic enough?

  122. “I’m not sure about the date of the Tebow incident but it appears that abortion isn’t illegal in the Philippines.”
    I’m pretty sure that it is illegal but that certainly does not change the *fact* that a full third of the Filipino women that were surveyed in the document that you cite report that they received their abortions at a hospital or health center (page 19).

  123. This has been a great discussion, really. But now I have to ask Lou…
    …who wants all pregnancies to end in abortion?
    Do you really believe that? I mean, c’mon.
    You reveal yourself to be a fringe zealot.

  124. “I have no problem with what Jews do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by wearing those things on their heads.”
    Homosexuality is not a religion.
    “I have no problem with what blacks do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by coming across the tracks and eating in our restaurants.”
    Homosexuality is not a race.
    “I have no problem with what women do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children by voting or going to work.”
    Homosexuality is not a gender.
    “Oh, and the 300 Spartans. All gay.”
    100,000 0-3gle fans. All idiots.

  125. And we have a guy producing a document where it lays out the penal code, specifically outlining criminal punishments for abortions.
    And he concludes from this document that abortion is legal.
    I love you guys, really! Too funny!

  126. “Jeez, I wonder how many people making anti-gay comments here are Southern inbreds. My guess is 100%.”
    Nice way to counter a gross, ignorant generalization with a gross, ignorant generalization of your own.

  127. “Just like all those fat, lazy stupid Eagles fans, right, vox?”
    Exactly. And bandwagoning fans everywhere, as well.
    I’m sure that there are fit, active, intelligent 0-3gle fans in the world. However, none of them post here.

  128. Listen everybody!!!! I just want to make one thing perfectley clear!!!! Just because I go by
    Brady-mancrush does not mean I’m gay……
    No, it really don’t……
    I’m serious…
    I’m not kidding…I’m not gay
    But he sure is good looking!!!
    But I’m not gay…

  129. “Rich women can always get abortions, dope. Is it legal? Yes or no? Answer. Because that has everything to do with her story.”
    It really doesn’t, and the fact that abortion is illegal in the Philippines has no bearing on the issue because medically safe abortions are performed in the Philippines by trained professionals, illegal or not. And that’s besides the fact that a woman can go elsewhere if she doesn’t want to break Filipino law.
    “She wasn’t SEEKING one! Her story is that she was OFFERED one. That it was medical advice.”
    That’s two different things. If I suggest that it might benefit you to pull your head out of your ass, am I offering to pull your head out of your ass for you? No.
    “By doctors who could go to jail and lose their license for doing so. And she was a Catholic missionary they were telling this to? Please. That sounds plausible to you? ”
    Sounds very plausible. People break laws all the time. People break stupid laws probably more than other laws and outlawing abortions in all circumstances is definitely a stupid law. Why does this concept escape you? Read the study, one out of every three abortions in the Philippines are performed in a hospital or health center.
    “Let me guess, you got spoon fed that off the Limbaugh site…”
    I don’t need anybody to spoon-feed common sense to me, chump.

  130. If your a pole smoker or a bull dyke thats your problem do it your own house.
    Society isn’t required to endorse your perversion!
    Homosexuality goes against the laws of nature and no-one but those that choose that lifestyle need to be subjected to it.
    Young children don’t need to see man on man during the superbowl.
    Gays have their own cable channel where they can flaunt their perversion and pretend it’s all normal…it’s not.. You do have the right in the US to live as abnormally as you want, but you don’t have the right to confuse and twist the minds of young and impressionable children.

  131. Lou – she merely embellished, I believe the rest of the story. And I have no doubt that, had she had the choice, the whole thing plays out the same way.
    I don’t won’t to step over the line and bash the kid or his mom, because I happen to like them. And it is a great story.
    My only question was why the embellishment. Because it looks to me (based on facts) that the story was embellished.
    You are, of course, free to disagree. I just wish there had been more substance to your defense of that opinion. Because now this has become boring.

  132. Hell..admit it Vox………You’re a pole smoker…….PFt people have known that for years

  133. “Lou, now making up facts.”
    You mean like you saying that she said that her doctor offered to give her an abortion?
    “She saw Filipino doctors before being moved to Manila, where it is noted that she saw American doctors.”
    She saw American-trained doctors after going to Manila. Reading is fundamental.

  134. “Marriage? I’m not a believer in it, but there are plenty of religious homosexual people who do not have the right to marry the person they love. Is that basic enough?”
    Heterosexuals have the same limitations. We’re only allowed to marry people that we love that are of the opposite sex. Try again.

  135. “Jokes are different then violent repressed homosexual thoughts”
    Yes, and there’s a difference between “then” and “than”, too.

  136. Every post against this ad is DRIPPING WITH FEAR.
    If you are afraid of this ad, and that it might influence you or your kids to become gay, your not only a coward but a moron as well.
    If you are secure in your manhood and true HETEROSEXUAL, than the ad shouldn’t bother you one bit, and a real MAN wouldn’t hate on another person for something they have no control over, what they find attractive.
    If I acted like all the homophobic morons on this site and in this world the way I feel about fat ignorant morons in the country, I’d be in jail for slamming people about something they CAN CONTROL, their weight and their level of knowledge.
    I guarantee you homophobes spewing ignorant hate on this website are married to an obese disgusting beast of a woman with a huge gut and size 16 jeans that she squeezes into to try and look good on bingo night.
    Lincoln should have let the south secede.

  137. Homosexuality is not a religion.
    Homosexuality is not a race.
    Homosexuality is not a gender.
    So what? Because we protect people based on these distinctions? It wasn’t always so. In many nations, it isn’t the case today.
    But, like all of the factors above at one time or another, homosexuality is put forth by bigots as inherently threatening. Inherently dangerous to the “American way of life” (whatever the hell that is) or “our precious children”.
    Same story, different millenium. Because one party needs to expand its voting base that is increasingly shrinking and dying off.

  138. Vox, your responses remain devoid of facts, it is all opinion and spin…
    “Nuh uh”.
    “They don’t follow the law in my home town so no one follows it anywhere”.
    “Anything is possible, however unlikley”
    “I am always right.”
    The law may seem stupid to you, but it is the law there and reflects the conservative Catholic tradition. You just blow that off and assume they all think it is stupid.
    How is that an argument.
    Again, you make 50 assumptions based on opinion. I make one based on facts.
    And if you can’t discern how offering v asking is critical, I can’t help you.

  139. There’s a lot of glaad and nambla members championing the cause here tonight… You know their desperately upset when rush limbaugh and/or fox gets throw in a post. LOL !

  140. Vox, she says that the doctor recommended abortion. That was the medical advice she claims to have been given.
    You THINK it is illegal? Or you know? Because based on what has been posted you should know. It is illegal.
    Half your arguments are that it is legal. The other half is that it is illegal, but they don’t follow it.
    Which is it? Or is there a 3rd option?

  141. ‘”She wasn’t SEEKING one! Her story is that she was OFFERED one. That it was medical advice.”
    That’s two different things.’
    NO SHIT. THAT WAS THE POINT. CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW THAT CHANGES THE ENTIRE DYNAMIC OF THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN HER AND THE DOC?

  142. SUPER BOWL VIEWING IN THE MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL VIEWING AREA
    “Go git me another PBR, boy!”
    (game continues)
    “Where’s my pack of Luckies, boy? What do ah keep yew ’round here for?”
    (game continues)
    “Momma slipped in the kitchen. That’s how she got that black eye, boy. Now shut up and watch the game.”
    (cut to commercial)
    “Why are those two men KISSIN’? Boy, you know how your cousin Erlene and me sometimes kiss? Well, sometimes one guy wants to put his thingie in another guy’s dookie hole instead. That’s all they’re doing, and if I EVER catch you putting your thingie in another man’s dookie hole, I’ll slap the white offa you. Now shut up and get me another beer!”

  143. Man ….I didn’t know all you PFT members would come out of the closet about a gay commercial. I’ll stick to football….that’s how I roll. Bet you guys hit 1000 comments!

  144. “Every post against this ad is DRIPPING WITH FEAR.”
    Don’t confuse “fear” with disgust or loathing there very different.
    Young children don’t need to see perverse abhorent behavior so homosexuals can pretend what they do is OK..Just like some of the posters here are allowed to go man on man others are allowed to think your mentally sick people that justify your perversions.

  145. Let’s just conclude.
    You believe that her story isn’t fishy at all, that there would be no reason to question it in light of who she was, where she was, and when she was there. Despite the issue being non life threatening to her. I believe it is flimsy.
    You have zero facts, and of course I was not there so despite my skepticism I can never prove it. Never claimed to. So it almost doesn’t matter how many facts I bring forth.
    You’ll just deny it was illegal, and then move the goalposts and make a different argument when you find that it was illegal.
    It is a waste of time.
    But if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

  146. 2 of the top 3 PFT most commented about this petermunch crap…..I’m ashamed of you all….Any football news??

  147. Lou, still waiting for the answer on who wants all pregnancies to end in abortions and thereby the human race.
    Lou? Lou?
    Or do you just want to retract that as silly hyperbole?

  148. People break silly laws all the time.
    Yeah, because if I am a doctor I want to risk losing my ability to pursue my career and possibly do jail time…all in the name of getting a Christian missionary to do something illegal and clearly against her moral and religious beliefs.
    For minimal gain.
    Yep, happens all the time.
    How did I not see the genius of that argument. Thanks!

  149. Mikeoxlong wins a free membership to the site.
    It took a few hours for an inbred to drop the “everyone that disagrees with me must be gay” post.
    Congrats, Mike.

  150. The Superbowl isn’t the time to explain to your children why two men would want to date? Isn’t that the exact point of the ad being in a high-profile, proverbially “masculine” event–to start a conversation and educate children and others now so they don’t perpetuate the same type of hate and close-mindedness that CBS apparently adheres to.
    And perhaps you can use Tebow’s spot as a chance to explain to your children/yourself why a football player is implicitly telling rape victims etc. that if they abort their fetuses they are going straight to hell.
    This is absurd.

  151. “LouDog and Vox…read the penal code. It is pretty clear”
    You’re fighting windmills, Don Quixote.
    Doesn’t matter that performing abortions is illegal. Abortions are recommended in the Philippines. Medically safe abortions are performed in the Philippines, too. Admit that you were wrong and move on.
    “A medical team looked at a pregnant American woman who was a Chiristian missionary. They tell this Christian missionary that her fetus may not be up to snuff, that she should abort it even though her own life is not in danger.”
    Man, you really need to educate yourself. The fear was that she would die at childbirth, as is often the case with placental disruption. I mean really man, how are you going to try to argue your non-points when you’re not even informed of the facts? You don’t have to believe me but you might want to research the condition yourself just a bit.
    “Oh, and the practice is illegal and very unsafe for the mother they are looking to “help”.”
    Not if performed in a medically safe environment by trained professionals, as a third of all abortions in the Philippines are.
    “This is your story? You find this plausible?”
    Obviously.
    “My take is that the story is flimsy”
    My take is that you have problems admitting when you’re wrong about something.
    “Your argument is that you like the story and want to believe it. Zero evidence.”
    I don’t particularly care for the story and I’m not a Tebow fan.
    “You must both be very successful in life.”
    Quite. I’m sure that your inability to admit that you’re wrong and your prediliction for revising history in a feeble attempt to make it appear that you are not wrong has not gotten you very far in life.

  152. “Hell..admit it Vox………You’re a pole smoker…….”
    Shhh, the adults are talking. OK? Good boy.

  153. halftime … amen brotha. couldn’t have said it better myself.
    mooch … get a life, no pun intended. it’s not built on a big lie at all. that is all well and true that abortion is illegal in the phillipines, but you’re forgetting one thing … pam tebow is an american citizen, she could have easily come back to the states and had the abortion, which is what i’m sure they were telling her to do.

  154. “Heterosexuals have the same limitations. We’re only allowed to marry people that we love that are of the opposite sex. ”
    So, you have the right to marry who you want, and they have the right to marry who you want. Sounds reasonable.
    Let’s try it another way. (It’s 1915, by the way.) “Hey Jed. Women have the same rights as we do. Every man has the right to vote, and every woman has the right to vote if she’s a man.” I dig it.

  155. If the football viewing public can handle the relentless barrage of ads for boner drugs every Sunday, then they should be able to handle these two ads.

  156. And we have a guy producing a document where it lays out the penal code, specifically outlining criminal punishments for abortions.
    And he concludes from this document that abortion is legal.
    I love you guys, really! Too funny!
    Okay, the penal code says its illegal. Many our our great states have many laws on the books that aren’t followed.
    http://www.dumblaws.com/
    I’m not saying that it is either a good law or bad law in the Phillipines, I’m suggesting that just because you say it is illegal doesn’t mean that the law isn’t broken or that law enforcement ignores it.
    For someone to suggest that because something is against the law, that it doesn’t happen is naive to say the least….
    Remember, she is relating a story from 20 years ago?? You expect her to have 100 percent clarity in her memory from that long ago?? It is also a story that has to be told in 30 seconds so she can’t babble on about the semantics of which doctor suggested an abortion. Can’t we just celebrate
    a story about choosing life? If you are pro-abortion, how does the ad effect you? Does it make you feel guilty? Does it make you feel uncomfortable about your choice?
    As I’ve said for years, I’ve against abortion, but what someone else chooses to do is none of my business, I just don’t think I shouldn’t have to pay for it with my tax dollars.

  157. “Don’t confuse “fear” with disgust or loathing there very different.”
    I have to disagree with this, and not just the bad spelling/grammar. Speaking from personal experience and my very limited psychology knowledge, fear can often be rooted in loathing and disgust, and more often vice versa. Regarding homosexuality education for children… Would you rather have a kid who loathes himself and has no one he can count on or would you rather have open dialect that can keep the lines open and a sense of trust between you and your child that will forge a parent/child relationship that gets through anything. As a Catholic from Pittsburgh, I have seen many different types of upbringing. The strongest and most successful families have been strong in religious faith and generally conservative but also open to debate and discussion throughout the immediate family. But I have known more homosexual couples than not to be successful as well, they just do not always have the family support that some of us are fortunate enough to receive. It is just ridiculous in this day and age that we fear or are even disgusted by anything like this comical commercial. We should not be malleable to have a commercial influence our lifestyle to that extent, if we do it is the parents’ fault.

  158. It seems as if this story is in the right place for people who are ignorant and a tad closed minded. I myself love football as well as embrace many cultures and lifestyles. We have brought many stories to this website such as the disaster in Haiti, the disaster of Tim Tebow’s first day at the combine and yet there is no place for a story that shows how a person can be affected by discrimination. It’s sad that people can openly say it is okay that homosexuals will always have a more difficult life than that of heterosexuals. I thought that if America is such an advanced country we could accept more issues socially but I guess we will always be one step behind other countries in that regard. I think that the problem is that parents are too scared to openly discuss anything that is different from the mainstream and openly accepted by everyday society. I know it seems as if I am on a platform but really people we support players who kill people in a drunk driving incidents, that are involved in domestic violence and do drugs, but yet we cannot accept another individual loving another individual unless they are of two opposite sexes. Just think about that for a minute, think about how maybe we as a whole should open our minds just a little to the world around us.

  159. Does anyone really care what GLAAD thinks about anything? Or am I a bigot because I don’t care? Of course, to them,. I am a bigot because I don’t care.
    Look gay community, it really isn’t a big deal that you are gay. These days, all of us have a gay uncle, cousin, college buddy, buddy you grew up with, etc. None of us care. And that is what really upsets you. That no one makes a big deal anymore that you are gay. You don’t want equal treatment, you want special treatment. And too bad you ain’t getting it.

  160. “Have they considered the fact that sodomy is against the law?”
    It’s not. The few states that had anti-sodomy laws were over-turned by the Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas in 2003. Whether such laws appear on the books is irrelevant, the Supreme Court has ruled on this.
    Even though I don’t agree, I see the argument in saying “is this a commercial appropriate for a Super Bowl audience?” I don’t care at all that they’re gay. If they were straight and macking, CBS probably shouldn’t air it in prime time.
    I’m just always shocked (and shouldn’t be) at how much of this nation hates everything not like themselves. We have a lot of hate-mongering people on here. The same kind of hate-mongering anti-abortionists that kill doctors and burn down clinics. It’s one and the same. If CBS is trying to be classy by turning down Mancrunch’s ad, they should reject Tebow’s on an equal level.

  161. “as a person who actually carries pro-life as a personal policy but actually believes that the decision should be available in cases concerning extenuating extreme circumstances, I find you do an inadequate job reinforcing your arguments.”
    Great.
    “When you took issue, regarding the use of “manly” in a previous statement, never really said what he said was wrong in his statement.”
    Why should I have to say that it’s wrong? I mean really, football players are more manly than the average football fan? That’s what I’m supposed to say is wrong? It’s an abstract and unquantifiable statement. Do manly men beat their women? Because if you think not, then that means that James Harrison (for example) is not manly.
    “It also seems to me that you do not take into account that the conservative movement regarding abortion is to outlaw it”
    I don’t take that into account because I don’t think that’s how it is. It’s not a movement to outlaw it. It’s a movement to limit it. Different groups advocate different limits but even “Focus on the Family” doesn’t take the position that all abortions should be outlawed.
    http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sanctity-of-life/abortion/our-position.aspx
    Focus on the Family opposes abortion under all circumstances, except in the rare instance when the mother’s life is threatened by continuing the pregnancy.
    Should Tebow’s mom have decided to terminate her pregnancy, it wouldn’t have gone against their agenda. However, my opinion does not jibe with theirs. I have a much broader view of when an abortion should be allowed. Cases of rape, incest, inviability of the fetus, in all of these and probably more circumstances I believe that abortion should be allowed. Hell, I’m not opposed to allowing every woman a mulligan. People make mistakes. Get pregnant, don’t want the hassle and responsibility of carrying a baby to term, giving birth, raising it for any reason whatsoever? Fine. Get an abortion. One. I don’t even object to using taxpayer money for that ONE abortion.
    “whereas the liberal movement is simply to maintain the option and not to illegalize the right to choose life.”
    Incorrect. The liberal movement is to allow all abortions for any reason, and even to pay for it if need be with taxpayer money.

  162. vox, you got called out for making a broad generalization about people who make generalizations, then tried to cover your rear by making a generalization. Priceless.
    The comments on this post reminds me what a dreary world this could be. Please don’t ever seek treatment, vox. We need you for your entertainment value.
    Bandwagoning?

  163. I think this website may have actually lucked out in the end. This story has not been on just nfl forums and sports news sites, but on bigger national media news outlets. The fact that somebody cried about civil rights and caught peoples attention brings me to this observation:
    They don’t have to pay 2+ million for a 30 second spot, and they get all of this free press by the national media. Sure other countries may not get this news attention that would see the super bowl broadcast, but I’m guessing this niche online dating service is probably geared for the American audience. That said, they’ve received plenty of free press and advertising.

  164. Its simply that people who are watching the Superbowl dont want to hear about gay relationships. The pro-life commercial is just 1 man and organization talking about their views on the subject.
    Alot more football fans disagree with the gay life style then pro-life. The difference between the commericals is Keeping families Together is just giving their view and Mancrunch is blantantly rubbing gay relationships in the viewers face.
    The pro-life commercial realizes its a touchy subject while the mancrunch 1 totally ignores that . The manchrunch comercial has guys holding hands and making out like its a normal thing. I think that will upset more people then the prolife commercial does.

  165. “Homosexuality is not a religion.
    Homosexuality is not a race.
    Homosexuality is not a gender.
    So what?”
    So you’re a dumbass for trying to equate them.
    “Same story, different millenium. Because one party needs to expand its voting base that is increasingly shrinking and dying off.”
    You’re talking about the Democrats, right? Fewer American citizens identify themselves as Democrats than did a couple of years ago. You know that, right?
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
    In December, the number of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats fell to the lowest level recorded in more than seven years of monthly tracking by Rasmussen Reports.

  166. I feel like to make this more even, someone should make an “advocacy” commercial about the awful things anti-abortionists have done. For a group that cannot stomach the thought of a fetus being aborted, they’re sure okay with killing doctors and blowing up clinics. Let’s run that ad right after the Tebow ad. Why not CBS? Just fair game right? It’s stories like this that really make me reconsider my citizenship.

  167. @Debacled
    “When a young child asks “Why are those 2 men kissing?”, I respond “That’s because their brains don’t work right like the rest of us. Don’t imitate that behavior- it’s never right. They’re just sick people.”
    Do humanity a favor and get a vasectomy.

  168. 5 year-olds don’t watch the super bowl so don’t worry trying to explain to him what you should have already talked to him about.
    Parents, it’s your DUTY to talk to your kids about homosexuality, and that it’s ok, BEFORE moments like this come up. For all you know your kid will turn out to be gay but will be afraid to come out to you, because you’ve made it know you’re a bigot and don’t accept lifestyles that make you uncomfortable.

  169. Why is this a “double standard”? What does one issue have to do with the other (other than they’re both controversial)? If anything, CBS allowing the pro-life ad is consistent behavior with NOT allowing the gay dating ad.
    On a side note: Seriously, Mancrunch.com? What’s next? Carpetmunchers.com?

  170. “Vox, your responses remain devoid of facts, it is all opinion and spin…
    “Nuh uh”.
    “They don’t follow the law in my home town so no one follows it anywhere”.
    “Anything is possible, however unlikley”
    “I am always right.””
    Those were not my responses. You’re not making yourself look any smarter by making crap up.
    “Again, you make 50 assumptions based on opinion. I make one based on facts.”
    Fact is that abortions are recommended in the Philippines by doctors. Another fact is that abortions are performed in medically safe conditions by trained professionals in the Philippines. These are not opinions. They’re facts. Legality has nothing to do with it, and you have yet to address those facts.
    Basically your argument is “it’s against the law therefore it does not happen” and you ignore all real facts.
    “And if you can’t discern how offering v asking is critical, I can’t help you.”
    I don’t need your help. With anything. Seriously. You need to learn the difference between “recommending” and “offering to do”. As if it makes a difference in the first place.

  171. Aikman, agreed that is a plausible explanation of what happened. But that is different from what she said happened. I found it curious, was just asking why. And chose to initiate a discussion over it, probably for far too long. As I have stated many times, I like Tim Tebow.
    “Can’t we just celebrate a story about choosing life?”
    Absolutely, that’s a great idea. And don’t confuse natural curiosity and skepticism (instilled in me by a Jesuit education) as guilt over a decision I made. That would be a wrong assumption.
    I don’t believe anyone “wants” an abortion or is happy about it. But I detest government control of people’s decisions. And there are plenty of things I hate paying taxes for, but that’s society.
    And Tim Tebow can’t be used as a poster boy against abortion any more than Osama Bin Laden can be used as a poster boy in favor of it. So I think the political premise is silly to some extent.

  172. Well, you have no sense of history. Which is not surprising.
    But nice work ignoring my explanation so as not to have to defend your original point. And nice work – once again – moving the goalposts and moving on without answering.
    We’ll score that as a “nuh uh” and a “look that way”. Did you pay for college? Because you got ripped off.
    What about identification as Republicans? And lets not use the Republican polling firm, OK? Nice try in your choice of polling outfits. Bravo.

  173. Anyone who has kids ever have them ask what an erection lasting more than 4 hours means? Yeah, didn’t think so. Same with the gay ad – the kids can handle it much better than daddy.

  174. @truushot, Vox, LouDawg, Mooch …
    Gentlemen,
    I haven’t stated my views on abortion because this isn’t the place–and with all due respect, I don’t discuss this issue with anything that wasn’t born with a uterus. But as to the legality of abortion in the Philipines, here’s a summary from the United Nations:
    Grounds on which abortion is permitted:
    To save the life of the woman Yes
    To preserve physical health No
    To preserve mental health No
    Rape or incest No
    Foetal impairment No
    Economic or social reasons No
    Available on request No
    Additional requirements: Authorization of an abortion requires consultation with a panel of professionals.
    http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion/doc/philippines.doc
    According to Mrs. Tebow’s story in the Gainesville Sun, the reason for abortion would be “fetal impairment,” so it would not have been legal. They told her the child would be stillborn. It would not endanger her life to carry a stillborn child to term. An American doctor would probably advise terminating. But an American doctor would also have had access to ultrasound equipment that would show the child was still alive. A Filipino doctor certainly would not have risked imprisonment and loss of license to advise abortion.
    I’m not saying she’s lying. It’s a very personal, subjective story. It’s something she should submit to Reader’s Digest. It’s not something I want to hear during the Super Bowl. It’s not something I want to explain to children during the Super Bowl.
    I just want to watch the game and leave the politics to the cable news channels and Web sites.

  175. You made it up again. That was the medical advice she was offered. Abortion was recommended. It would have been especially egregious had the offered to do it, but the recommendation was a violation in and of itself.
    Remember, Phillipine law (which makes abortion illegal) makes no allowances for health of the mother. So your premise is, once again, inconsistent with what the law was. Your only saving grace is the assumption that docs in the Phillipines don’t take the law seriously.
    So they recommended a procedure that they couldn’t do without incurring great risk. To their career. To their income. To their freedom. To a Christian missionary sure to reject that risky advice and perhaps report them. And the chances of them being trained to do it was minimal.
    For what? Kindness? Evil?
    She never had a ‘choice’. Not that she would have wanted one.
    But if that story sounds beyond question to you, cool. That’s fine. I was taught to question things – incidentally the product of a Catholic education.

  176. This has been lots of fun, but it’s time for me to get my jammies on and say nite nite. Before I go I’d like to go on record as stating unequivocally that I’m not against same sex relationships as long as both chicks are hot.
    Both liberals and conservatives – republicans as well as democrats, please remember one thing:
    You’re all wrong.

  177. “Vox, she says that the doctor recommended abortion. That was the medical advice she claims to have been given. You THINK it is illegal? Or you know? Because based on what has been posted you should know. It is illegal.”
    Actually I know that it’s illegal.
    “Half your arguments are that it is legal.”
    No it’s not. You don’t have to guess, all of my posts are above. My position is that it’s illegal in the Philippines but that doesn’t stop women from getting professional advice to have them or obtaining them.
    “The other half is that it is illegal, but they don’t follow it.”
    My entire argument, actually. I mean I’m sure that there are some doctors that refuse to do it for whatever reason but fact is if you’ve got enough money/connections/whatever a woman can get a medically safe abortion performed by trained individuals. I don’t even know why this is a big leap for you. It’s the fricking Philippines. There’s all sorts of wicked shit going on over there and you think that this is a big deal? It’s a human trafficking hub, for pete’s sake. You wanna buy a slave girl or an ounce of shabu crystal meth? No sweat, but you think that a woman can’t get an illegal but safe abortion or even a recommendation to get one in the Philippines because it’s illegal? Really? You think that prison and loss of license is harsh? Read this:
    http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2002/ra_9165_2002.html
    Section 5. Sale, Trading, Administration, Dispensation, Delivery, Distribution and Transportation of Dangerous Drugs and/or Controlled Precursors and Essential Chemicals. – The penalty of life imprisonment to death and a fine ranging from Five hundred thousand pesos (P500,000.00) to Ten million pesos (P10,000,000.00) shall be imposed upon any person, who, unless authorized by law, shall sell, trade, administer, dispense, deliver, give away to another, distribute dispatch in transit or transport any dangerous drug, including any and all species of opium poppy regardless of the quantity and purity involved, or shall act as a broker in any of such transactions.
    Got that? At best, life imprisonment regardless of the quantity. Get busted selling a tiny bit of meth or even giving it away, say goodbye. Yet drug trafficking is a billion dollar industry in the Philippines.
    “Which is it? Or is there a 3rd option?”
    Well there’s the 3rd option. The one that says that you can’t admit that you’re wrong.
    And for the record, I’ll always think that any law that outlaws ALL abortions is stupid and I reserve the right to criticize and make fun of countries that have such laws at my discretion. I don’t give a damn if they’re traditionalist Catholics or not. And don’t EEEEVEN get me started on Catholicism. Or any other organized religion, for that matter.

  178. “But if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…”
    Yep. You’re acting like a guy that can’t man up enough to admit that he’s wrong, therefore you are a guy that can’t man up enough to admit that you’re wrong.
    I’m done with you. It’s not important that you be convinced that you’re wrong. I’ve stated my argument and backed it up with facts, you’ve constantly mischaracterized things that have been said by at least two parties and have taken on the childish opinion that laws keep people from doing illegal things.

  179. “Then where would we get our meth from?”
    The Philippines. No wait, they’ll execute you for dealing meth there so there are obviously no meth dealers in the Philippines. I guess you’re stuck with getting it in Philly. I suggest you just stop using it though. This may help you.
    http://www.phillycma.org/

  180. “And perhaps you can use Tebow’s spot as a chance to explain to your children/yourself why a football player is implicitly telling rape victims etc. that if they abort their fetuses they are going straight to hell.”
    You’ve condemned the spot before you have even seen it. Forget the fact that your statement does not accurately reflect Focus on the Family’s position on abortion. Kook.

  181. “So, you have the right to marry who you want, and they have the right to marry who you want. Sounds reasonable.”
    Well no, not really. Everyone’s limited on who they can marry. Keep your women’s rights straw man, man. “Homosexuality” does not describe a gender. Or a religion. Or a race. It describes a lifestyle.

  182. “Does anyone really care what GLAAD thinks about anything? Or am I a bigot because I don’t care? Of course, to them,. I am a bigot because I don’t care.
    Look gay community, it really isn’t a big deal that you are gay. These days, all of us have a gay uncle, cousin, college buddy, buddy you grew up with, etc. None of us care. And that is what really upsets you. That no one makes a big deal anymore that you are gay. You don’t want equal treatment, you want special treatment. And too bad you ain’t getting it.”
    And the hammer finds the head of the nail! Listen up, homos! We reserve the right to completely disregard or (figuratively) embrace you and your opinions for any reason we deem fit! Hell I think gay guys are great. I used to shun them in my youth but after being sent to Key West for work several times, I’ve learned that gay guys can be very beneficial for their straight friends. I have many gay friends now. Not only is it less competition, but seems to me that they’re magnets for hot chicks. I guess in that regard they’re special. I couldn’t care less about what they do behind closed doors though.

  183. This was a business decision based on the audience. Politics has NOTHING to do with it. If anything political pressure would have forced them to run the ad, however, last I checked, they are a private company, and can make business decisions as needed based on viewership. Mancrunch can run their add during an episode of qweer eye or desperate housewives.

  184. Tebow ad: annoying sanctimony for annoying sanctimony’s sake.
    Gay dating ad: annoyingly irritating and faux- “outrageous” for the sake of being faux-outrageous.
    And both are still far less annoying than Jimmy Football.
    Both ads are a mistake. It’s a football game, not a podium or a social statement. Stick to the usual ads for beer, trucks, credit cards and foodstuffs. All the annual nonsense regarding Super Bowl ads gets more tiresome every year.

  185. “Bandwagoning?”
    Yes, bandwagoning. People that jump from team to team based on how bad the previous team is or how good the current team is. People like you. Did you not say that you were a Cowboys fan until it became too embarrassing for you, then you became an 0-3gles fan? That’s the very definition of “bandwagoning”. That was you that said that, right?
    antneejay2 says: January 29, 2010 9:23 PM
    “I was a Cowboys fan (until it became an embarrassment for me to be one) while Dion (sp?) Sanders was there.”
    Yep, that was you. How could a football team make you personally embarrassed, anyway? It’s not you out there playing like crap, it’s (hopefully) not you out there getting busted for whatever.

  186. @Vox
    “Homosexuality is not a religion.
    Homosexuality is not a race.
    Homosexuality is not a gender.”
    But they do have one thing in common with homosexuality: All things you cannot control or choose.

  187. Greenbaygramera, YOU NEED TO GROW UP, I t must really bug some of you gals in Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers dates Models and dosn’t whore around Green Bay like his predecessor did. Step up for the Gay Community?really? Can you prove that? Or are you just upset that he didn’t give your ugly ass the time of day after drinking the town dry? And really, what does your obsession with someone who WANTED OUT OF YOUR TOWN have ANYTHING to do with superbowl ads and CBS? I suggest you get a job, a life, a boyfreind, a dog, and get over Brett, HE wanted out , he’s not coming back, so stop blaming Rodgers. Typical , either your A. a brokenhearted Viking fan,or B. Aaron Rodgers didn’t say Hello to you at Packer appreciation day, guess he had too much class to notice your cheese bra. Either the case, stop blaming someone else for a problem HE didn’t create. You look real brave calling someone gay on a website..I dare your ugly fat ass to say it to the guys face.

  188. “Anyone who has kids ever have them ask what an erection lasting more than 4 hours means?”
    It means that that Lego T.Rex we made was put together really well, son.

  189. “According to Mrs. Tebow’s story in the Gainesville Sun, the reason for abortion would be “fetal impairment,” so it would not have been legal. They told her the child would be stillborn. It would not endanger her life to carry a stillborn child to term.”
    Look up “placental abruption”.
    Matter of fact…
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11997676
    U.S. National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health
    Placental abruption complicates approximately 1% to 2% of all pregnancies and remains a significant cause of both maternal and fetal morbidity.

  190. “But they do have one thing in common with homosexuality: All things you cannot control or choose. ”
    I disagree. I think it’s a choice or maybe actually learned behavior. I don’t have a problem with homosexuals or homosexuality per se but I’m not gonna believe what just isn’t there, that being proof that it’s not a choice. If you’ve got evidence to the contrary, I promise I will consider it.

  191. Bill Polian, being a rumored member of mancrunch.com is probably furious over this…He may pin someone to the wall, and suggest rule changes on the competition committee. What a jackass.
    That said, mancrunch likely has a huge following/membership amongst Colts and Jets fans, I don’t know, just guessing based on what I’ve seen from them.

  192. You guys need to all let this go. Some of you disagree with homosexuality, while some of you are for it. That is not what this post was about. We need to focus on why the hell GLAAD would take a run at CBS in the first place when they almost assuredly knew, before any of this happened, that (1) the ad was being made, (2) that they were going to submit it for Superbowl consideration, and (3) that it would almost assuredly fail to make the Superbowl.
    GLAAD put the fix on this whole situation all so that they could take a run at Network execs even though they have no legal claim in this situation whatsoever. CBS could reject their ad because it had gays, a black guy, chips, white guys, a Vikings jersey or any other reason they chose.
    Florio….please get on here and explain the concept of “At Will” employment to these people, as I think the concepts parallel each other nicely.

  193. Amazing . . . I just read 216 posts, including some of the most ignorant stuff I have read on PFT, and nobody blamed Bill Belichick.

  194. Say no to BOTH ads. Also get rid of cell phone commercials. Their commercials are always on and they offer nothing new or different. I’m tired of the t-mobile map, sprint and Luke Wilson! Stick to fun, upbeat ads about crap we don’t need like they normally do.

  195. So vox, you’re saying I stopped rooting for the Cowboys because they are a bad team. How would you know that? I didn’t tell you that. Where did you get this information? It wasn’t in the comment I posted. You’re lying again, aren’t you? Now that’s not nice.
    By the way, I think Dallas had a pretty good year. Didn’t they make the playoffs? I believe they won their division. You call that bad? Some fan you are.
    Geez, I just noticed that you said that I said a football team made me “personally embarrassed”. Oh oh, another lie. You can’t help yourself, can you?
    That’ good. Being a total fraud is one of the things that makes you so funny.

  196. Thank you CBS. I didn’t want to see a bunch of homos sword fighting. If you aired this I would boycott you until next football season. On a side note I would like to throw my support for Lesbos everywhere. Any commerical of some pretty girls kissing is great.

  197. Mooch says:
    January 30, 2010 5:00 PM
    Dixon, don’t you think some people have an issue with their children asking them what ‘erectile disfuction’ is?
    Because you know half the commercials will be dick medicine. It is the NFL’s bread and butter now that the auto advertising is down
    There’s a difference from kids seeing two guys make out then hearing the words erectile disfuction. Parents can lie about what that means they cant tell their kids they didnt just see 2 guys make out.
    I would be with you if they showed an image of a guys limp dick then it would be the same thing.

  198. Everyone argueing that parents explaining the pro-life commercial to their kids is the same thing as them having to explain the man crunch commercial either have no awareness of the world or just argueing for the sake of argueing.
    Their is a big difference between sight and sound. All the Focus on the Family commercial does is talk about how they support the pro-life cause. While on the other hand the Mancrunch commercial shows 2 grownmen making out and rubbing their groins on each other.
    If parents dont feel its the right time for the pro-life choice they can simply tell their kids it means something else but they wouldnt have that ability with the man crunch commercial. There kids would see it and the parents wouldnt be able to change that.
    Any commercial that takes a parents ability away to censor what their kids are exposed to shouldnt be on during family broadcasting like the Superbowl.
    And not to mention a Gay lifestyle is the exact opposite of anything that has to do with Families. A gay relationship means no children which means no family.

  199. Watched the ad and I see the part that likely caused the problem. Right because they go into the big makeout session, one guy says to the other “you suck” and then they start making out. The sexual connotation of the ad (sucking and gay guys) is likely what is getting it killed.
    I remember Britney Spears had a pepsi ad killed because in one scene she was drinking from a bottle and some people thought it had a “sucking” connotation.
    Remove that line or rewrite it, resubmit it and I am sure the ad gets aired. They just need to work with the standards depart. just like the Go Daddy commericals.

  200. The commercial showed guys in Packer and Viking jerseys.
    They should have chosen team jersey locations where that crap is seen as acceptable like San Francisco, New York, Miami, etc.
    Minnesota and Wisconsin don’t accept that crap. End of story.
    The only ones who accept that crap live in the liberal capitals of the world. It’s uinsulting to have that stuff thrown in the faces of those who don’t believe in it. Reggie White was right. That stuff is like a mental illness, it’s sick. END OF STORY.

  201. this reminds me of a quote from Andrew Dice Clay’s stand-up routine about 20 years ago…”How can a man find love in another man’s hairy ass ?”…priceless.

  202. Like I said, just being skeptical.
    And why not? After all, many of the BIG evangelical marketing campaigns have been built on lies (the GA courthouse shooter…we read the bible, no actually you two did meth) or wishful thinking (Columbine, where they knowingly attributed the tragic “Do you believe in God” discussion to a different girl who was a member of their chruch, despite overwhelming evidence and eyewitness accounts). And, of course, the mishmash of conflicting Trig stories.
    But if you want to be an OJ Juror, be my guest.

  203. Wow, a whole % drop. Again, what is the self-identification by party.
    Incumbents will get killed, and since the Dems have the majority of course they will feel its effects more. Just like the last wave against the Republicans.
    Which is why I voted against Corzine, moderate Christie was the better candidate. And why MA voters voted against a party hack with zero substance and for a moderate.
    But, as always, your party has to make more of it than it is. MA voters were taking a stand against health care? Really, they voted to deny the rest of the US what they have now and have kept in place. Great theory, really.
    It’s the candidates, stupid.

  204. Vox, what do you know, we found some common ground after all…
    “I try to vote for who I think will hurt the country LESS unless there’s a third party candidate that I think can get at least 5% of the popular vote because I have this insane wish to be the vote that breaks the barrier, so that somebody, anybody can crack the two-party system, which starts with getting that 5% and all of the perks that go with it like convention grants and public funds for campaign expenses.”
    I was disappointed to see that the Indy candidate in NJ could not get more support. My belief was that lots of Corzine voters who could not bring themselves to vote GOP would throw their support to the Indy. Didn’t happen, we’re still a Coke or Pepsi nation.
    I actually would favor coalition government like in the UK (and parliament is more fun to watch). Fact is, health care is dead because many Democratic politicians don’t want it either. But they have to pick on side to keep their base, so they chose to delay it until it was no longer possible. The system is desigend to breed competition, not cooperation. And that makes for lousy government, where nothing gets done. Which is fine by me, except when we have huge challenges to overcome.
    And I guess this is a good time to put the political discussion to bed and get back to football.

  205. GLAAD doesn’t care if they ever get the add aired. Its never been about that. They WANT the Tebow add removed. That has been their goal from the start. They are in a win/win spot. CBS either airs their add or pulls Tebows’. The add looks cheap and stupid. This is all political grandstanding by liberal drama queens.

  206. @Vox
    “But they do have one thing in common with homosexuality: All things you cannot control or choose. ”
    ‘I disagree. I think it’s a choice or maybe actually learned behavior. I don’t have a problem with homosexuals or homosexuality per se but I’m not gonna believe what just isn’t there, that being proof that it’s not a choice. If you’ve got evidence to the contrary, I promise I will consider it.”
    I’m a gay female. I knew at about 5 years old I was gay, which also was pretty much when I first remember I was in existence. It is not a choice nor would I wish it on anyone. And, no, I’m not some ugly bull dyke. I look like your sister, your ex-girlfriend, your mother, aunt or friend. You would never suspect me being gay. In fact my best friend of 20+ years practically crapped her pants when I told her because I had guys chasing me all my life.
    Lastly, you don’t believe in homosexuality because it hasn’t been proven. Neither has the existence of “God.” So I hope you’re atheist or at least believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Santa Claus because he’s just as imaginary as the aforementioned.

  207. Don’t be upset “manmunchers” barry obama’s gonna pay for all your aids medicine and hospital stays by adding it to the national debt.
    It’s the new M.O. of the U.S. you reward the lazy, the unmotivated, the self entitled and the deviants and you punish the responcible, self motivated, hard working family people.
    Seems like a plan destined for success ..doesn’t it??

  208. Chuck Norris once commented, “There are few problems in this world that cannot be solved by a swift roundhouse kick to the face. In fact, there are none.”

  209. “I’m a gay female. I knew at about 5 years old I was gay, which also was pretty much when I first remember I was in existence.”
    Really. At 5 years of age you knew that you preferred other females with it comes to romantic and/or sexual relationships?
    “Lastly, you don’t believe in homosexuality because it hasn’t been proven. Neither has the existence of “God.” So I hope you’re atheist or at least believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Santa Claus because he’s just as imaginary as the aforementioned.”
    My faith does not require anything from you. Just like your claim that you had made up your mind about your sexuality for the rest of your life by the time you were five does not require me to believe it. Which I don’t, by the way. And if you did, it’s my belief that you must have had a really strange childhood to be pondering such matters at the age of five. Did you have opinions on abortion, global warming and stem cell research, too?
    Not trying to belittle you, here. I just believe that the “born gay” argument is from people who just find it easier to say “this is how I was born” rather than “this is the choice I’ve made”.

  210. “So vox, you’re saying I stopped rooting for the Cowboys because they are a bad team. How would you know that? I didn’t tell you that. Where did you get this information? It wasn’t in the comment I posted. You’re lying again, aren’t you? Now that’s not nice.”
    What is it with you 0-3gle fans thinking that you need to issue my opinions and statements to me? My words are above, lowbrow. Read them again if they jumped out of your pea brain three seconds after you had someone read them to you. I didn’t say that you stopped rooting for them because they were a bad team. I said (actually YOU said) that you stopped being a Cowboys fan because “it became an embarrassment for me to be one”. I listed a couple of reasons why I thought you might feel that way, but it was not intended to be a complete list. In fact I don’t even care what your reasoning is, if something that anybody else does makes YOU embarrassed enough to bandwagon off to another team, then you’ve got entirely too much personal investment in it. It’s a damn game, what could possibly personally embarrass YOU bad enough to jump from one team to another? AS I said, it’s not you out there playing like crap, it’s hopefully not you out there getting busted with hookers and coke, it’s not you doing anything except getting embarrassed about something and using that as an excuse to dump a team that’s not doing well for a team that’s on the upswing.
    “By the way, I think Dallas had a pretty good year. Didn’t they make the playoffs? I believe they won their division. You call that bad? Some fan you are.”
    I never said it was bad, bandwagoner, and you lowbrows need to stop thinking that you can speak for me. I said that any season that doesn’t end in a Super Bowl win is by definition a failure, but that’s relative to the big picture. An opinion relative to a smaller picture is that the Cowboys are the best team in the NFCE and miles better than the clueless 0-3gles, the quitting Giants and the directionless Redskins.
    I am glad that you found a fanbase to match your intellect, though. When you get embarrassed enough to stop being an 0-3gle fan, I wonder which team you’ll pick next?

  211. Route36West says:
    January 31, 2010 12:42 AM
    Any commercial that takes a parents ability away to censor what their kids are exposed to shouldnt be on during family broadcasting like the Superbowl.
    ___________________________________
    Agree 100%. Too early for this type of commercial to air and parents should NOT have to be thinking that their sub teen children are exposed to any of this at that time slot.
    I don’t think any explicitly sex related commercial, be it pro choice, pro life, Viagra , GO Daddy etc. should be aired before 10 pm on any show let alone one that SHOULD be innocuous like a football game.

  212. “Minnesota and Wisconsin don’t accept that crap. End of story. ”
    I find it hilarious that the openly gay Esera Tuaolo played for the Packers AND the Vikings! Last I heard he still lives in Minnesota.

  213. “who is .Vox?
    Where’d the real Vox go?”
    Wouldn’t let me login with “VoxVeritas” one day so I made another name.

  214. Hey Vox,
    Does it suck when people like MikeOxlong agree with you? I imagine it probably feels like when fellow Steeler fans say jackass things on here, I gotta give them the benefit of the doubt but at the same time I am embarrassed that I have to kinda hold my nose and close my eyes to do it.

  215. -Vox
    “My faith does not require anything from you. Just like your claim that you had made up your mind about your sexuality for the rest of your life by the time you were five does not require me to believe it. Which I don’t, by the way. And if you did, it’s my belief that you must have had a really strange childhood to be pondering such matters at the age of five.”
    I knew when I was five that I liked girls, is that abnormal? I do not believe different upbringing would have changed that either. You say that your faith requires nothing from someone else but what does this Homosexual dating advertisement require from you? Surely no more than the religious advertisements that are asking for other peoples’ faith.

  216. .VoxVeritas says:
    January 31, 2010 12:10 PM
    I find it hilarious that the openly gay Esera Tuaolo played for the Packers AND the Vikings! Last I heard he still lives in Minnesota.
    —————————-
    True.. But he wasn’t “openly gay” as a player. He came out 3 years after he retired. It’s not like he greeted Tagliabue on the stage at the draft wearing a pink suit with no ass cheeks.
    And his book is titled “Alone in the Trenches”. I haven’t read it, but I imagine the book doesn’t paint a rosy picture of acceptance of gay lifestyles in the NFL. In Green Bay, Minneapolis, Dallas or anywhere. So in the context of what mnmaverick was trying to convey, I think he’s right.. Then again, I think the same is true throughout the NFL–on every team it’s not accepted.

  217. Too many people too sensitive.
    I had to explain to a boss once that I didn’t make an anti-gay remark after a diverse person complained that I called somebody a cocksucker after hanging up.
    For all he knew I could have been talking to a girl.

  218. the vikings used to be most commented on this site. i find it ironic that this post for gay people surmounts a bunch of guys that wear purple and have sperm on their helmet.

  219. Reality Check:
    CBS is a privately owned company. They can choose whoever the hell they want to give their minutes to for advertising. There are plenty of other media outlets that will air their ads, like MTV, The Brokeback Channel, and MSNBC during Keith Olbermann’s time slot, since he is certainly desperate for ad revenue, considering his laughable ratings…

  220. Why shouldn’t CBS have the right to decide which ads they want to air and which ones they don’t?
    What law are they breaking?
    If it is such a bad decision then their ratings will reflect that and they may lose adverstisers. But if it is a good business decision than no one will ever hear about this story again.

  221. GLAAD should not be getting involved in the Mancrunch ad rejection. Tebow’s commercial is about him thanking his mom for his life. The mancrunch ad is two men making out. Honestly, they don’t even show a man and a woman making out on regular access t.v. Had the mancrunch ad read something like, “Mancrunch, an alternative to conventional dating.” Or something not as grotesque, CBS would have aired it.

  222. .VoxVeritas says:
    January 30, 2010 8:44 PM
    “Hell..admit it Vox………You’re a pole smoker…….”
    Shhh, the adults are talking. OK? Good boy.
    ————————————————
    This is evidence that Vox leads a more exciting life than I could have ever imagined. He has nothing better to do at 8:44pm on a Saturday than broadcast his views about abortion on an NFL blog. Why go out and interact with real people when he could argue his side of this contemporary social issue that will clearly be solved in the comments section of a football website? I would love to hang out with you sometime, and by hang out I mean communicate via blog comments on a football website on a Saturday while most “adults” are out socializing.

  223. # .VoxVeritas says: January 30, 2010 5:51 PM
    . All Republicans enjoy professional wrestling, huh? Fool. Then again we already knew that you have limited intellectual capacity, being an 0-3gle fan and all.
    ————
    Okay, Vox. So you’re a Log Cabin Republican that only likes men oiled up in his mother’s basement. Got it.
    Nice mullet, fatboy.

  224. # .VoxVeritas says: January 30, 2010 7:34 PM
    “Just like all those fat, lazy stupid Eagles fans, right, vox?”
    Exactly. And bandwagoning fans everywhere, as well.
    I’m sure that there are fit, active, intelligent 0-3gle fans in the world. However, none of them post here.
    —————
    Wow, VOX is calling people out for being unfit and unattractive?
    Google “Vox Veritas” — click on Link #1. Now… what is fit or attractive about the trollish goblin man on that myspace page?
    Keep your fat mouth shut when it’s not servicing Tony Romo, Julio.

  225. @toe-to-toe birld law.
    You’ve seen Vox’s Myspace page right? Florio’s a bit of a Vox Veritas enabler and deletes the link constantly (For every one trashtalk by Vox Florio gets 10+ responses of people wanting to shout the troll down).
    If you’ve seen what Julio looks like, you won’t ask why he’s in on Saturday night with nothing to do.

  226. # azure says: February 1, 2010 1:21 PM
    GLAAD should not be getting involved in the Mancrunch ad rejection. Tebow’s commercial is about him thanking his mom for his life. The mancrunch ad is two men making out. Honestly, they don’t even show a man and a woman making out on regular access t.v. Had the mancrunch ad read something like, “Mancrunch, an alternative to conventional dating.” Or something not as grotesque, CBS would have aired it.
    ————————————-
    Uh, you ever see NYPD blue. They showed more than making out.

  227. “oh no, gay people on tv” “think about the children!!!!”
    Damn some of you guys are some ignorant as hell.

  228. Unless you were in the room, there is no way to disprove what Mrs. Tebow says about the issue, so if you want to believe that she’s embellishing her story, so be it.
    But to say that said belief in the alleged embellishment is based on facts simply because abortion was and is illegal in the Phillipines is akin to stating that assisted suicide doesn’t happen in the anywhere in US because it, too, was and is illegal in most localities, especially when we all know that to be factually incorrect.
    You’re entitled to your opinions, but please stop trying to portray them as indisputable facts.
    And in regard to the decision by CBS not to air the Mancrunch commercial but to go ahead with the Tebow commercial, did anyone consider the possibility that all the ad space had already been accounted for and there is no ulterior motive behind it by the network? Or that this was a lame attempt to counter the Focus on Family ad from those with an antithetical agenda who knew the ad would be rejected and that they would get more free publicity for their cause than $2.5M could buy?
    Because no one ever does that in America these days…………….

  229. Seeing two guy guys kiss is better than hearing, “an erection lasting more than 4 hours, call 911,” every other commercial.

  230. FumbleNuts says:
    January 30, 2010 4:50 PM
    Friggin’ stool pushers bangin’ for attention.
    Super Bowl is not the place or time for this kind of crap!
    __________________
    Oh praise Jesus! Praise the Lord! This is not the time nor place for things like this, I totally agree. I don’t want to explain these sinful topics to my blessed children either! These sinners need to read the Bible! Gays crack Hell wide open and burn forever when they die. Jesus loves me this I know. For the Bible tells me so! Jesus does NOT love the homosexuals. Let’s please not have to discuss this during the Super Bowl! Homosexuals repent! Or burn forever! The Bible is the truth and the life! SO is Jesus! Repent all ye sinners! Repent!
    And Geaux Saints! Praise Jesus! Praise His name forever! Thank you Lord!

  231. People please ignore the ones that call themselves Christians and then make fun of or cheer the spiritual death of someone choosing the gay lifestyle. God does NOT HATE people who choose to be gay. And it is not some joke to see someone purposely ruin their own lives to lead this deadly lifestyle.
    I am a Christian and God is very clear that He does not enjoy it when someone choooses to live in their sins. As far as the AD goes, most people who actually look at the facts instead of going off emotion know that this lifestyle is a choice. That is a fact. Even non-Christians know this. And it borders on pornographic which no one wants kids to see. Tim Tebow’s message is about life — any kid should see that.
    Here is proof God does not hate them though and nor should we, but that doesn’t mean we have to affirm it either.
    Ezekiel 18:32 (New International Version)
    32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

  232. Debacled says: January 30, 2010 6:33 PM
    Tim Tebow ad: Every human being has the right to live, regardless of how small or weak. It is an ad that recognizes human dignity and promotes the right to live. As a former fetus, I find nothing wrong with this ad. I’m glad I was given a chance to live.
    Mancrunch ad: Because nothing says true love like sodomy and worrying about contracting HIV from your partner. I have no problem with what gays do in their personal lives in their own homes- they have every right to do what they do. But don’t impose it on the rest of us NORMAL people, especially our innocent children.
    When a young child asks “Why are those 2 men kissing?”, I respond “That’s because their brains don’t work right like the rest of us. Don’t imitate that behavior- it’s never right. They’re just sick people.”
    ********************************************
    I have never read anything so stupid in my whole life. It honestly took me a good 2 minutes to realise you weren’t made up.

  233. Haha just imagining you right now going to a child ‘Dats because dere brains don’t work right like der rest of us!’
    The funniest thing is, you’re the best advert for abortion I think I’ve ever seen.

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