Jaguars lineman unloads on Tebow

Plenty of people in Jacksonville would love to see quarterback Tim Tebow become one of the newest members of the Jaguars.

One of them isn’t current Jaguars offensive lineman Uche Nwaneri, who has started 28 games over the past two seasons.

In a posting on the team’s official message board (our pal Vito Stellino of the Florida Times-Union has confirmed through the team that Nwaneri wrote the item), the three-year veteran was candid in his assessment of the former Florida quarterback.

Here’s Nwaneri’s five-point breakdown:

“5. He cant throw. PERIOD.

“4. He cant read any coverage other than probably cover 2 or man cov. PERIOD (the only cov. in college lol).

“3. the QB wildcat WILL NOT WORK IN THIS LEAGUE. PERIOD.

“2. He doesnt know how to take a snap from center, nor is he even comfortable enough to.

“1. HE CANT THROW. and thats really something you either have or not, never seen a qb who couldnt ever throw, just all of a sudden be able to throw just because hes now in the NFL.”

So there you have it.  On the very site owned by the team owned by a man who has made clear his interest in acquiring Tebow’s rights, one of the team’s fairly important employees has offered a contrary opinion, in very strong terms.

128 responses to “Jaguars lineman unloads on Tebow

  1. Just priceless..absolutely priceless. Unfortunately, tomorrow he’ll say he was mis-quoted.

  2. And this is the same guy Tony Dumby said he’d take with the #1 overall pick. So did Spittin’ Lou Holtz. Doesn’t Nwaneri know that Timmy is such a leader and is so competitive that he’ll be leading grown men around by the nose ? This guy’s got a lot to learn. Like Timmy was born in a manger underneath a giant, bright star. Then three wisemen showed up…..God hates people who hate on Timmy.

  3. I don’t disagree but when was the last time an offensive lineman see a QB throw unless he was knocked on his ass? Guy has a career though as scout when he’s done.

  4. Good to see someone else realizes Tebow sucks a bum’s sweaty nutsack. Too bad he doesn’t have any say in personnel decisions….

  5. I wonder if we would have made the same points if Tebow was black?
    BTW I think Tebow will be an amazing bust all the same I wonder if he would have said anything against a brother.

  6. BWWWAAA HAAAA HAAA HAAAA!!!! Now that is probably the funniest thing I’ve read in a very long time!!!

  7. So basically he’s mad that a lot of Jag’s would rather have Tebow over his boy Garrard.
    By the way, Nwaneri is awful. PERIOD.

  8. Why do I have a feeling that Tebow is PFT’s next target? Did you guys get tired of picking on Childress?

  9. Florio,
    I know you have much better things to do this week, being Super Bowl week (of course given Anklegate, maybe not), but I’d be interested in hearing if anyone thinks the Jaguars’ organization looks as bush league running their website as I think they do.
    I mean, they have Vic Ketchman, who represents the Jags organization and openly talks trash about other players and teams. They have players openly reading and posting on their message boards. It’s just embarrassing. People wonder why nobody takes the Jaguar organization seriously…it’s because NO other team in the league is doing this amateur football stuff, or at least they aren’t being blatant about it if they are. The Jags almost seem to pride themselves on look as unprofessional as possible.
    Again, no other team has a Vic Ketchman on their payroll. And if any other team has a player posting on their official team board, he’s probably doing so anonymously or at least not throwing around words like “retard” if he isn’t (not that the word offends me at all, it just looks minor league when you’ve got pro players on their own board talking trash.)

  10. Uche, you’ll look good in a Brown’s uniform. Weather’s nice this time of year.
    You are now trade bait.

  11. What the hell kind of name is Uche Nwaneri? Obviously he is a great talent evaluator and will surely be the next Mike Mayock. Could interesting in the Jags locker room.

  12. I just became an Uche Nwaneri fan. PERIOD. Also, David Garrard is probably as slow or maybe slightly faster than Teblow, and is much better at throwing footballs. And that’s not saying much for Garrard.

  13. “2. He doesnt know how to take a snap from center, nor is he even comfortable enough to.”
    More proof that the complexity of NFL football is completely overrated. I learned how to take a snap from center in about five minutes… when I was 8.
    It may literally be the easiest technique to learn in the game. It is easier than learning how to dribble a basketball. And here you have an NFL lineman whining about how a prospect doesn’t know how to take snaps from center?
    I’d be more worried about his footwork and dropping back than handling the ball.

  14. I have no idea who this Nwaneri is, because, after all who in the hell are the Jaguars?Have they won anything? Has HE won anything?
    As a longtime resident of Florida I’d like to respond to this asshat buttwipe, just a little.People that don’t even follow college football have a better knowledge of Tim Tebow than this moron.
    5.) He can and has thrown. Well. Lots.
    4.) He has and does read coverage, lots of it…well.
    3.) Who asked your sorry ass about him working in the wildcat? He does a whole lot more than that. Period.
    4.) On the snap from center thing, you are right.As a 28 game pro starter, YOU ARE RIGHT!! Tebow hasn’t learned that yet, but he will. This young man has shown that if he chooses to take something on, he will, and he will succeed at it.
    5.) That’s the one that makes me respect you the least, because you show either your ignorance or your severe memory loss(means too many concussions for you already.) Hey, asshat.. how ’bout looking at ALL of his 4 seasons? Or if that’s too much, pick one at a time. Winning Heisman, winning National championship (not once, but) twice.
    Florio, I know you look for stuff…but who is this a$$whole??

  15. I could criticize his spelling, grammar, or use of capitalization, but I can’t disagree with his message.

  16. While I think the guy was too harsh, he does have valid points. Tim Tebow is lightyears from being a legitimate starting NFL quarterback. I’m not saying he cant develop into it…but right now he is terrible. You saw him stink in the senior bowl against college players when he had to run a pro style offense…imagine him trying it against an NFL defense…he’d stink it up worse than Jamarcus. Tim Tebow is a project QB at best.

  17. How you do make it this far and not know how to take a snap from center? That’s like saying you don’t know how to make a bounce pass in basketball.

  18. It is insane for anyone to spend a day one draft pick on a player that is 4 years away from being an nfl qb

  19. @stefanovich Tebow fumbled the first play from under center in senior bowl practice. so, yea, I’d be concerned too.

  20. Fans complaining about players on our message board are just jealous that they don’t have players on theirs.
    And Vic is great, he usually calls it like it is and doesn’t PC many of his statements.
    Uche gave his opinion, that’s all he can give. Just because a player is next to and around QB’s doesn’t mean he can judge talent.
    I think he’s right, and I’ve watched Tebow for more than 4 years now. He’s a good college QB but it seems unlikely that that will translate to the pros.

  21. It’s refreshing to see a player stand up for what he believes and not be afraid to express it. Uche, you’re my new hero!
    Reptar – I think you’re confusing the NHL with the NFL. “NO other team in the league is doing this amateur football stuff,” Really? Have you ever heard of Bud Adams or Rex Ryan? Your head must be stuck in the back end of your proverbial high horse.

  22. Ladybucs….
    Wow. You are truly a genius!
    Tim Tebow can do anything he sets his mind to. What are you some kind of elementary school guidance counselor? If he tried to fart for 27 straight seconds do you think he could? If he tried to beat Usain Bolt in a race could he? Could he prove the existance of “God”?
    And you’re more worried about foot work than your QB holding on to the Ball??? Yea, because fumbled snaps are always a sure fire way to win a game.
    So the guy won a heisman. So I take it every heisman winner is a star in the NFL right?
    Yea… What a moron you are.

  23. “2. He doesnt know how to take a snap from center, nor is he even comfortable enough to. ”
    Uche, however, is very comfortable with placing his hands under other players’ crotches.
    And, Uche, you should have learned at Purdue that you do not end a sentence with a preposition.

  24. Florio, why do you continue to portray Weaver’s fairly diplomatic non-answer about Tebow as an indication that he really wants him?
    When’s the last time you saw an owner asked about an incoming college player and say, “no, we’re not interested, he wouldn’t be an asset”?
    Besides Al Davis, I mean.
    Look at the actual quote, and pretend it’s not about Tebow, but some other random college player. Would you read that and come running to the site to post about it?
    Probably not.

  25. First and foremost, Uche is my cuz and our families are really close. Secondly, he’s just stating what we all already know about Tebow. The only thing he might be wrong about is the Wildcat thing as there can be success with it…

  26. I’ve never really been a fan of Tebow but I don’t think the man has suddenly forgotten how to play football. His resume pretty much speaks for itself. He at least deserves a chance to prove himself in the league just as myself or any other players deserves a chance. I wouldn’t be so quick to write him off just because you’re not a fan.

  27. Tebow’s definitely Florio’s next target. He’ll join the list that includes Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll, The Patriots, Eric Mangini, Brett Favre, Brad Childress. PFT isn’t only about rumor-mongering, it’s about Florio’s self-indulgence and double standards. He knocks Tebow whenever he can, yet kissed Pat White’s ass till his lips were chapped. Had Mike Tomlin done all the things Florio criticized Childress and Mangini for, he’d be praising him through the roof. BTW, Mike, how did that prediction of Mangini getting fired go, anyway?

  28. @ stefanovich …
    you were doing that with 300 lb lineman running at you?? how come you dont play in the NFL??

  29. @Reptar
    “Again, no other team has a Vic Ketchman on their payroll.”
    Guess you haven’t heard of Rex Ryan. He never took a shot at Woodson when he won the Defensive MVP. Another dumbass, uneducated post who tries to write essays to cover up his lack of knowledge. He just wrote three paragraphs of NOTHING.

  30. The guy is on point with all five. Tebow is a great athlete but he has not displayed an NFL QB skill set that’s not to say he does not have it. That’s just not the way he played it in college. In a nut shell if the Jaguars drafted this guy you would be getting a white version of what you already have. He would put some butts in the seats because he is so well liked in Florida but by no means can you say he would be an upgrade. *it would be a (DUMB MOVE) * and one more step closer to being bankrupt.

  31. The guy is on point with all five. Tebow is a great athlete but he has not displayed an NFL QB skill set that’s not to say he does not have it. That’s just not the way he played it in college. In a nut shell if the Jaguars drafted this guy you would be getting a white version of what you already have. He would put some butts in the seats because he is so well liked in Florida but by no means can you say he would be an upgrade. *it would be a (DUMB MOVE) * and one more step closer to being bankrupt.

  32. I completely agree with him. Did you all not watch the Senior Bowl or actually seen how awful a QB he is?

  33. The Jags brass should have a players vote and ask the players who they want as they QB and why.. anyone that gives a idiotic evaluation like this guy should get canned or benched.
    What these fools need to understand is that if they don’t draft Tebow then Bellichick or the Colts will.. and if either of those two gets Tebow and uses him as a “superback” it’s all over. Not unlike Florida getting Tebow and transitioning him to starting QB.. the process will just be longer. This is why Tebow likely ends up a top 10 pick.. because people are going to get word of how these elite teams want him.
    Which is why TEbow should be a top 1 pick. He’s going to shock everyone.

  34. The only thing more tired than the media’s unhealthy over-hyping of all things Tim Tebow is all of the haters getting completely bent of of shape and trashing the guy.
    You don’t have to respect his abilities but the guy has said and done all of the right things his whole life. If you have a problem with Tim Tebow you need to take a look in the mirror.

  35. More proof that the complexity of NFL football is completely overrated. I learned how to take a snap from center in about five minutes… when I was 8.
    It may literally be the easiest technique to learn in the game. It is easier than learning how to dribble a basketball. And here you have an NFL lineman whining about how a prospect doesn’t know how to take snaps from center?
    I’d be more worried about his footwork and dropping back than handling the ball.

    For what it’s worth, I once felt the same way about the subject; I though the whole “shotgun/spread QB vs. pro style QB” argument was ridiculous, and totally overrated. But the truth is, it’s actually one of the most important factors in determining a player’s ability to succeed at the next level.
    It’s not a matter of whether or not the QB can take a snap under center; it’s about differences in timing, the design of the plays, and the speed of the game as a whole.
    In shotgun, the QB can stand in the pocket and watch the play develop from the moment the ball is snapped….so he probably has a good 3-4 seconds to read the coverage, identify his target, and get the ball away.
    A QB playing under center has to do the same things, he also has to find time to squeeze in a 3-, 5-, or 7-step drop in there. This only takes maybe two seconds, which may not sound like much…but that leaves him only a second or two to do everything that a shotgun passer does in 3-4 seconds.
    (Of course, the QB will eventually start making his reads as he makes his drop, which buys him a bit more time….but it’s easier said than done. Again, part of the learning curve.)
    Then when you factor in the speed of NFL defenses, and the learning curve increases exponentially. He’s facing defenses that are much faster than anything he ever saw in college, and he has only half as much time to make a decision and get the ball out.
    Some QB’s can make the transition….some can’t. Some make the jump fairly quickly, but they’re the exception to the rule. The overwhelming majority of QB’s take 2-3 years to get settled…and some guys never get it, period.
    So when you hear critics talking about, “Well, Player X is a shotgun QB who has never played under center”, they’re not just blowing hot air. In terms of projecting a player’s ability to play at the NFL level, this is one of the most significant shortcomings a college QB can have.

  36. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: February 3, 2010 11:31 PM
    I just became an Uche Nwaneri fan. PERIOD. Also, David Garrard is probably as slow or maybe slightly faster than Teblow, and is much better at throwing footballs. And that’s not saying much for Garrard.”
    Wasnt Garrard in the Pro Bowl, rocket scientist?
    Is it Garrard’s fault the Jags havent had Go-To receivers since the Jimmy Smith days? This is only a story because Weaver has gone public saying he wants Tebow.
    Whats so hard about taking Dez Bryant in the first, then taking Tebow at no 2 or later..?

  37. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: February 3, 2010 11:31 PM
    I just became an Uche Nwaneri fan. PERIOD. Also, David Garrard is probably as slow or maybe slightly faster than Teblow, and is much better at throwing footballs. And that’s not saying much for Garrard.”
    Wasnt Garrard in the Pro Bowl, rocket scientist?
    Is it Garrard’s fault the Jags havent had Go-To receivers since the Jimmy Smith days? This is only a story because Weaver has gone public saying he wants Tebow.
    Whats so hard about taking Dez Bryant in the first, then taking Tebow at no 2 or later..?

  38. He doesn’t go along to get along like everyone else. He must be bashed!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  39. It’s all a part of the scheme.
    Uche Nwaneri 6/12/2007: Signed a four-year, $1.825 million contract but is getting taken for a huge chunk by his handlers. He is semi-literate at best and is being used without his knowledge by Wayne Weaver.
    Essentially, Mwaneri is Weaver’s punk. For chump change. There’s many times that amount waiting for Tebow.

  40. Doesn’t Unce know that he is in Gator country? I am a Canes fan–not Gator fan–but I am smart enough to know when and where to make a comment like that. Jeesh this guy has the mentality of a bowel movement.

  41. The mass of Tebow lovers seem to forget the pro game is a level above the college game.
    Ty Detmer. Remember that name. Set all kinds of college passing records(and he took snaps from the center), yet sat on the bench most of his NFL career. Gino Torretta won the Heisman, yet was a 7th round pick of the Vikings.
    Tebow: bad mechanics, college training mostly not transferrable to the pro level.
    Tebow is the classic “system” QB. Problem is there’s no system like that in the NFL.
    You can like a guy all you want in college. As one of the best college QB’s of all time–Vince Young–found out, it ain’t that easy. Young had far more going for him than Tebow athletically, and he barely hung on by his fingernails until this year.
    One more thing regarding Tebow: I’m waiting for someone of the Muslim faith to put sayings about Allah on his eye black. Maybe then a few of you supporters might not think showing your Christianity that way is appropriate.

  42. Of course Uche Nwaneri is correct, but one thing he failed to mention. Tebow sells seats in Jacksonville, and THAT is all that matters, not whether he can throw a ball or not.

  43. I love how Wayne Weaver saying that they would be interested in Tebow if his value fit the draft pick (which is CLASSIC coachspeak) magically means “OMG I WANT HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!”
    The Jaguars will not draft him.

  44. is he talking about Tebow or Vick prior to him being drafted?? Vick never could throw

  45. Let’s say this more slowly:
    When “coachability” and leadership are you two biggest attributes for the NFL draft, you know your draft stock sucks.

  46. Love how Tea-boy fans get all defensive about a guy who clearly can’t play the position in the NFL. I know you dig the fact Jesus is on his side and all that but you’re saying you saw him play last week and think he can compete at the next level? How many other non-Florida, non-Jesus freaks have you ever scouted?
    Fact is his strength as a college QB was his toughness. That means nothing in the NFL. Speed rules, Tea-boy doesn’t have nearly enough speed. Oh sure he’s got intangibles but so does Harrison Ford – don’t think he’s going to get drafted.
    Tea-boy will be nothing but a gimmick selection in April, if it happens at all.

  47. Rather be a Jesus Freak that a what most of these morons are who enter the NFL. Why does that scare people so much? Reminds me of middle schoolers who are jealous and want to take down anything they don’t have…

  48. FUNSHIPM174:
    Do me a favor pal. name ONE person you know who will invest in season tickets if the Jaguars draft Tebow. Even if you can, tell me if that ONE person is going to stick around after the Baby Jesus spends an entire season standing on the sidelines, holding a clipboard.
    Or on the practice squad.
    Reptar:
    Why don’t you spend a couple of months reading Ketchman’s column. You’ll see that, in spite of his financial connections to the team, he frequently criticizes players, and has, on more than one occasion, admitted to believing one thing about the team when the opposite is true.
    As for “talking trash” about other players and teams, you couldn’t be more wrong, and you can’t possibly read the guy regularly if you think that. In fact, Ketchman has a pretty solid record of speaking out against trash talking by players and fans. The guy is old school; he likes guys who hit (and know how to tackle), he like to see the QB go down, and he thinks the game has changed a lot. he should know; he’s only been covering the NFL for over 35 years.
    I’m biased because I’m a fan of the guy, but I’m almost 55 years old, and I’ve learned more about the subtle things about the game of football from reading his column than I have in all the years I’ve been watching the game.
    I’d rather spend the day reading his stuff than 90% of the user opinions on this site.
    And Uche is right.
    By the way, my opinion is worth no more than you paid for it.
    Have a nice day.

  49. Why is there even a team in Jacksonville?
    JJones – is that true? If there is no payoff in the form of increased ticket sales none of this makes sense.

  50. yiz and sonic…..what a life you two must have….jesus freak? teabag tebow? ….very impressive

  51. “Of course Uche Nwaneri is correct, but one thing he failed to mention. Tebow sells seats in Jacksonville, and THAT is all that matters, not whether he can throw a ball or not.”
    He won’t sell seats sitting on the bench, fumbling the football or underthrowing receivers 20 yards downfield. He might sell a few single game tickets but nobody is going to buy season tickets. It’s a myth.

  52. Right, all you need is great physical tools like a cannon-arm. Leadership counts for nothing.
    And the scouts are never wrong!
    Sincerely,
    Jeff George
    Ryan Leaf
    Matt Linehart

  53. Tebow will put fans in the stands – for a little while at least, but those fans will unleash when he puts the center snap on the ground.
    Tim Tebow is the next Larry Izzo. Dude would be a beast on kick coverage.

  54. szaggy says:
    February 4, 2010 7:59 AM
    Rather be a Jesus Freak that a what most of these morons are who enter the NFL
    ——————————–
    Just what are these guys entering the NFL that you think you are superior to?
    The guys here that object to Tebow wearing his religion on his sleeve (or literally, his face) are being very American. We see guys like Tebow and we think Elmer Gantry. Our history is full of holier than thou religious fugures who usually end up caught with their pants down or a hand in the cookie jar. That’s especially true now when a minority religion aligns with a political party and large corporate interests in hopes of legislating morality, which is an absurdly unamerican thing to do.

  55. ChocoTaco says:
    February 4, 2010 3:28 AM
    The Jags brass should have a players vote and ask the players who they want as they QB and why.. anyone that gives a idiotic evaluation like this guy should get canned or benched.
    What these fools need to understand is that if they don’t draft Tebow then Bellichick or the Colts will.. and if either of those two gets Tebow and uses him as a “superback” it’s all over. Not unlike Florida getting Tebow and transitioning him to starting QB.. the process will just be longer. This is why Tebow likely ends up a top 10 pick.. because people are going to get word of how these elite teams want him.
    Which is why TEbow should be a top 1 pick. He’s going to shock everyone.
    ———————————————————
    You need to get back on your medication or start watching football because you have zero clue what you’re talking about.

  56. Reptar,
    Funny thing is that you read the Jags board. I’ve visited a lot of boards and I must say not many team pages do what the Jags page does. I mean a live game blog, q and a weekdays with the editor of the board, who was beat writer with the Steelers if memory serves, and a decent message board.
    That being said, Uche has a right to his opinion, whether he gives it on the jags.com site, twitter, facebook, street corner of Talleyrand, wherever he wants to give it. The “retard” comment was unfortunate and he should be taking a little more for it, especially since he is an employee of the team’s board he’s voicing his opinions on. You have to wonder if he didn’t get a little heavy into the beers while blogging. I mean if I am on a company blog site and I identify myself as an employee and voice opinions then I am held accountable. I’m sure Jack is having a little talk with him about this. Bottom line, Uche is not in the war room come draft time, so his opinion really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. His view of Tebow has the same weight as if he said he’d love to play in Los Angeles. He doesn’t know.
    He really didn’t say anything that several hundred reporters, draftniks, players, etc. have said aside from every single radio show host in Jax with the exception of Pete Prisco. Of course Prisco invented football, the Jim Rome wannabe who’s trying to goad David Garrard into a Jim Everette/Rome situation.
    Look, someone will draft Tebow. He’s like the $6 million dollar man and some coach is out there who is gonna say “give him to me. We can rebuild him, we’ve got the technology.”
    I just hope it’s not the Jags as the expectations on him will be unbelieveably unattainable.

  57. szaggy says:
    February 4, 2010 7:59 AM
    Rather be a Jesus Freak that a what most of these morons are who enter the NFL. Why does that scare people so much? Reminds me of middle schoolers who are jealous and want to take down anything they don’t have…
    ———————————————————
    What scares people is the fact that grown men/women put so much faith in an imaginary friend.

  58. tyrone says:
    February 4, 2010 1:17 AM
    I’ve never really been a fan of Tebow but I don’t think the man has suddenly forgotten how to play football. His resume pretty much speaks for itself. He at least deserves a chance to prove himself in the league just as myself or any other players deserves a chance. I wouldn’t be so quick to write him off just because you’re not a fan.
    ———————–
    Yes, his resume speaks for itself. It says he racked up lots of wins and stats playing on a team that typically had 5 to 10 times more talent than the opposition, played in an offense where he never had to go under center, and had at 4-5 recievers running patterns on every play, most of the time wide open because they were bigger, stronger, and faster than the corners and safeties they were playing against.

  59. Here’s hoping that Tebow is just as good in the pros as he was in college. There would be a whole lot of crow eating going on.

  60. favrecansuckit :
    I will give you one thing – NEITHER of us can prove whether my “imaginary friend” exists. That is why they call it faith. At least my belief has an upside…
    By the way having to call it an “imaginary friend” exposes you for what you are…you won’t find me saying your crazy for not having faith.

  61. I wonder if we would have made the same points if Tebow was black?
    BTW I think Tebow will be an amazing bust all the same I wonder if he would have said anything against a brother.
    Tommie Frazier anyone?? JC Watts anyone?? Heck BRad Smith??
    CHarlie Ward?? If Timmy T was a bruh he’d be working on his pass route right now showing he could get off the blocks quick and what kinda hands he has..

  62. I think the guy is dead on…BUT, does anyone remember how Alan Faneca went ape when Roethlisberger replaced Maddox (who was crushed and knocked out by that sick Ravens D)… Faneca was way WRONG! That said, I do think Tebow is the next Tim Couch/Brady Quinn…no arm college success story that just doesn’t translate to the pros.

  63. # Mike says: February 3, 2010 11:19 PM
    It’s ok Tim, you can just join the priesthood after graduation!
    ……..You’re a moron, just like all these Tebow/God hating posters. Tebow is a Christian you idiot. Priests are Catholic.
    All you morons go back to your internet porn surfing in your mom’s house

  64. Could you image, the firstorm, if a white lineman trashed a black QB about to enter the league ?
    I bet he’d have to have a meeting with the holy reverend jackson (you know, the married holy man that created an illegitimate child during his speaking tour against creating illegitimate children… LOL!) The righteous reverend could council him on how racist his comments were.

  65. @ richabbs says:
    February 4, 2010 12:00 AM
    Tebow reminds me of Tim Couch and Brady Quinn, so I expect the Browns to take him.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    I don’t disagree with you much on that
    He does have a sloth speed release, but his heart and tangibles, is something you want on your team. He is the Bobby Hurley of Football, great at one level, but questionable at the next – but they are both fiery leaders and it is hard to pass on a guy like, due to the energy he will bring to a team.
    In all honesty, he needs to convert to TE, H-Back or Fullback in the NFL

  66. If you took away all the Gator suckups and fawning Gator fan’s postings, you’d get a feel for how most people feel about Tebow’s NFL ability…nice guy, loves his family, his church and his dog but he should sign with Winnipeg right now!! Remember Gator fans he’s not going to go running over NFL players like he did against some of those directional and fringe I-A schools the Gators had on their schedule — hello Troy, Eastern Michgigan, etc. Just remember all those great Gator QB’s from the past — Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Terry Dean, Kerwin Bell, Chris Leak, etc. They had nice NFL careers!

  67. Do not forget that Urban Meyer has already produced a top draft QB out of his system, Alex Smith.
    Smith still has problems in the NFL based on the pro style offense. Granted he did not have the hype coming out of HS that Tebow had, but it is not a stretch to imagine that lil Timmy will struggle similarly to the way Smith has struggled to grasp the NFL game.
    Lil Timmy is the next Philip Rivers, but with no where near the same level of talent, a mega hype machine that will win next to nothing. (oh sure winning the AFCW takes a lot with the Raiders and Chiefs to beat)

  68. What is a Jesus freak?…. A guy who doesn’t believe in premarital sex , stealing , lying, swearing , drinking, and killing. WOW ! What a freak….. Whos really the freak? yinzburgh….

  69. Wow –
    First of all if Tebow is a non white he would be declared the greatest ever and warrant the #1 overall pick. Anyone on this board remember a QB who came out over 10 years ago.
    Just to refresh everyone’s mind, He was a “running QB” who rarley took the ball from under center. He had a cannon of an arm and all the intangibles you look for in a QB but come draft time he was knocked for being a “runner”. Now what has this guy done, well 5 NFC championship game appearences and one super bowl appearence. No SB Titles but he has helped his team get to the playoffs almost every year. Yep, I’m talking about Donovan McNabb.
    Am I saying Tebow will be the next McNabb, no but dont give me this he is a runner, shot-gun, QB and can’t play in the NFL.
    How many times have the experts said Player X is the next great player only to have fans of whatever team drafted him as a few years later what happened to him?
    Now I do not know and neither does anyone else on this board, if Tebow will turnout to be a good or great QB, but I do know that he can be at least as good as:
    David Garrard
    Jake Delhomme
    Josh Freeman
    Jason Campbell
    Tavarius Jackson
    Sage Rosenfels
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Alex Smith
    Kyle Boller
    Brady Quinn
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    JaMarcus Russell
    Kyle Orton
    Vince Young
    Which are “ALL” Starting QB’s in the NFL right now.

  70. “He’s a Jesus Freak” as if that’s some kind of bad thing. Who’s really the freak – someone who actually believes in some social restraint, or one who doesn’t?
    Tebow didn’t show anything in the Senior Bowl to be confident in him as an NFL quarterback.

  71. Plain and simple Tebow sucks and will be lucky to be a back up in the NFL.
    And he hasn’t done himself any favors with with Jesus freak antiabortion commercial. The guy ought to keep his mouth shut about his personal views on controversial subjects.

  72. It’s a race issue… I agree with Mafia… Steve McNair was my favorite QB, PERIOD. He was a tough SOB… He was the ‘black Favre’, but I still believe he was underrated… Now, there is a reverse racism thing happening to Tebow.. That kid is a pure athlete, but everyone is getting down on him. If his name was Mike Vick and he were black, he’d be a top 10 pick… my 2 cents

  73. superbowl3
    What a dumb statement you just made. Who are you to tell anyone to keep their personal views to themselves? This is the United States, we have a right to express our personal views (read the First Amendment to the Constitution) , only and idiot wouldn’t know that. By the way, how many of you morons have played in the NFL? ….Right! None of you, so how are you gonna say he doesn’t have the talent to play there. Just because you spend your days playing Madden doesn’t make you all of a sudden a talent scout.

  74. What QB is Tebow going to beat out for a job? Rex Grossman?lol He needs to focus on becoming Dallas Clark.. If he plans to sniff anything besides pine.. He won’t have the best athletes in the nation running routes wide open for him. He won’t have the best o-line blocking or the best defense cleaning up his mistakes. He can’t outrun anyone and he won’t be trucking any pro linebackers.. Oh and he can’t read complex coverages.. Standing in the shot-gun, looking at one receiver until he gets open is not quarterbacking. I say draft him anyway so everyone can make bets as to him being the biggest most overated bust ever .

  75. Just like those four year college idiots that received a degree, or didn’t. His number 1 and 5 reasons are redundant, even though I am not a Tebow fan. I guess it is to be expected, the moron, uche, can’t even spell his own name!

  76. Maybe the Jaguars should get rid of some of the losers they been carrying for the lat few years and bring real winners to the Jaguars like Tim Tebow.
    What has whatsisname done with the Jaguars in the last two years? is he an All Pro? Then tell him to “Shut the Hell Up!!!!!!!!

  77. Strange – The kid seems to win a lot, something Mr. Uche Nwaneri doesn’t know much about.

  78. I got 2 words for ya Tom Brady, he got WAY less credit when he became pro. Tebow is smart…football wise, perhaps not so smart religion wise, but I say drop Uche, he’s judging the man before he ever shares the field of battle with him. That’s always a BAD move.

  79. The Senior Game was not the usual Tim. He had been in the hospital for treatment at least 3 times that week because he was running a fever of 105. Makes it hard to do really well in that condition. I think ANY team that Tim will have a treasure. Anyone who doesn’t want to play with him because he is a Christian needs to take a deep look within himself. Why are so many people scared of a fine Christian young man. We Gators will miss him, but we will follow him anywhere he goes. My daughter already had 2 Percy Harvin shirts and will probably have Tebow (in addition to the Gator one) ones from where ever he goes.

  80. Why we hate Tebow. Well, first of all, I am an SEC fan (go Gamecocks…ha) and I hate Florida and their winning @sses with a passion. I do not think Tebow (right now) is a NFL caliber QB, but for all the Tebow haters…I think I know why. Let’s face it, next to him you suck (that goes for me too). Gripe and complain all you want, that kid is going to bank more next year than you. He’s got a heisman trophy on his mantle and a national championship football or two. The hot blonde at the Hooters restaurant would screw his brains out, and so would your wife or girlfriend if given a chance. He may be a bust in the NFL, but he will do so a rich man, and you better believe with that wholesome image the sponsors will be lining up in droves. I bet he doesn’t give a rat’s left nut what any of us think, and I don’t blame him. Even if he only plays 1 NFL game, that’s one more NFL game that we will play, unless we play madden on the 360. That’s just my meaningless opinion.

  81. @Wiley Walt
    Reachin a little, arent ya? Comparing Tebow to Brady? Seriously? Come on. The kid is not the second coming.
    Great college player, no doubt, but the pro game is completely different. And he cant count on the other 10 on the field being athletically superior to virtually anyone they line up against. Remember his freshman year? Goal line package was all he played in. Couldnt throw then, cant throw now. Big kid, tough kid, good kid, but NOT a pro QB.
    There may be a place in the NFL for him, but it wont be as a QB. And all that business about him having all the intangibles- tons of kids have the intangibles. Go to a HS game and check out all the 5’9″ QBs who are “leaders”. He cant “rah-rah” millionares who wont be in awe of him, like his teammates at “FU” were.

  82. You’ve got to be kidding me. As bad as the Jag’s suck they should be glad to have anyone outside of a nursing home come to the team. You should be more worried about the managment cleaning house with all the dead weight on the team. It would supprise me if the Jag’s could beat a highschool team let alone a bad pro team. Even the Brown’s would have second thoughts about taking any of the Jag”s.

  83. Geez, I wonder why Vince Young never had to endure this type of scrutiny and skepticism. Even though his skill challenges as he prepared for an NFL career were more pronounced than Tebow’s, no one back then had a problem with Young’s top-five draft position, and that was after he flunked the NFL intelligence test for incoming players. Somehow, I don’t think Tebow will have the same problem. I am so sick and tired of the obviously race-based double standards that poison everything in our culture, and that is no more in evidence than it is here. Clearly, based on his incredible leadership intangibles and the fact that no one would deny he is a great athlete, doesn’t Tebow deserve at least the same consideration that was given to Vince Young?

  84. Tebow fans are such tools.. It’s easy to be a leader when your school has the best players on the field, and they are all pro prospects trying to escape poverty. Tebow fans should just be happy if he gets to play TE,FB or LB. If he can’t catch or cover anyone he’ll be lucky to find a spot on special teams. Has anyone seen Eric Crouch.

  85. @JoJo
    What happened to Crouch is what Crouch did to himself.. By refusing to change..
    I am an avid UGA fan, but Tebow is a great athlete.. and if he played for any of your guys schools you’d all be jizzing in your pants …

  86. I’m not sure if he’ll be an NFL player or not. His chances are no worse than any other QB in the draft.
    But in the big picture it doesn’t matter. He already has proven that he has character and conviction. Obviously more than all his haters. That will make him more successful in life than any thing else. How can all you loser talk such smack on some one you don’t even know. How can pou hate anyone who grew up doing missionary work with poor kids.

  87. This is clearly an attack on a guy who has earned his way up, and one who I think would not judge him. Jesus Christ scares the hell out of the non-believers, and for good reason. He is the way, the light and the truth, period. Hopefully, this great star who judges others will learn something from this, if not, well, let’s see who wins in the end.

  88. correct me if im wrong but i dont think that vince young was a great thrower in college and look at him now in the nfl or vick what about fultty or testaverde threw side arm tebows style is uniqe he may be a runner but in the end pratice make perfect

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