Finally, Pacman gets a workout

As it turns out, there are more than one failed first-round picks from the 2005 draft named “Jones” who have gotten a workout after a year out of football.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Bengals kicked the tires of former Titans and Cowboys defensive back Pacman Jones on Thursday.

As previously reported, receiver Matt Jones currently is holding offers from the Titans and the Bengals.

Pacman Jones was the sixth pick in the 2005 draft; Matt Jones went off the board at No. 21.

As one league source explained it, not much should be read into the fact that a guy has gotten a February workout.  Even if a player is signed, he’ll be one of 80, 27 of whom will be cut before Labor Day.

Still, the Bengals’ decision to flirt with Pacman is curious, to say the least.  Even though the Bengals recently have taken pride in their willingness to roll out the red carpet for guys who have worn orange jumpsuits, there’s a point where the habit becomes ridiculous.  (Of course, maybe we’re already past it.)

Then there’s the question of whether Pacman is even close to being in football shape.  In a Twitter entry from February 2, Jones said that he “just got done working out first day in 6 months.”

Another Twitter entry that Pacman has since deleted also could raise eyebrows.  After ESPN televised an interview of Loleina Tonga, the woman who drove the truck from which the late Chris Henry jumped or fell, Pacman wrote that, essentially, if Henry had been the one driving the truck and Tonga had been the one who jumped or fell out, Henry would be in jail.

Actually, it’s hard to disagree with Pacman on that point.

If he really has changed (after all, he has stayed out of trouble for more than a year), we wish him well.  And maybe it makes sense for him to honor the memory of Henry, Pacman’s friend and West Virginia teammate, by playing for the Bengals.

65 responses to “Finally, Pacman gets a workout

  1. “Then there’s the question of whether Pacman is even close to being in football shape.”
    Seeing as how it’s February and the season is 7 months away…

  2. Pacman, Stallworth and Matt Jones?
    Something tells me the Bengals are trying to move away from football and into organized crime….ok, disorganized crime.

  3. football=entertainment. who cares what these guys do off the field. i hope rock bands are doing blow and banging chicks left and right. and actors the same.

  4. I love it. People black or white giving a man a chance after chance. When does he just become acountable for his actions and it is all over from there? Pacman is garbage and belongs back in dallass.

  5. I deserve more of a workout than this classless punk. Why don’t you do us all a favor Pacman and sniff some paint. You shouldn’t be anywhere near a football field. Sorry, but players like him and Stallworth who are connected to attempted murder or murder should not be allowed to play football. Man, can’t wait until 2018 when Rae Carruth gets out of jail and is instantly reinstated by Goodell. What a joke this league is. Commish plays like a hard-ass yet shows so many flaws disciplining players.

  6. “After ESPN televised an interview of Loleina Tonga, the woman who drove the truck from which the late Chris Henry jumped or fell, Pacman wrote that, essentially, if Henry had been the one driving the truck and Tonga had been the one who jumped or fell out, Henry would be in jail.”
    That is completely true. If she were a he, even, she’d be in jail.

  7. Agree with John Thornton Little Risk High Reward,Douchebags can make all the jokes they wan’t but Either they get a very productive player or they cut him first sign he gets in trouble…
    Rest NFL looks for High Talent High Priced guys
    We look for High Talent Low price guys :p

  8. Ok seriously.. they Offer a contract to Matt Jones and work out Pac Man Jones.. Ok seriously.. Come on? Let the jokes start rolling in..

  9. Just when the Bungles go and jump off the deep end by entertaining a drugy like Matt Jones they go and completly redeem themselves with Pacman rumors. Solid work from a stand up organization and um ya Iran should have nukes.

  10. “And maybe it makes sense for him to honor the memory of Henry, Pacmans friend and West Virginia teammate,by playing for the Bengals”
    —————————————–
    Get a grip Captain Sentimental, as if he cares about anything but the money and notoriety….He’s just a broke thug, who couldn’t survive in the real world as a grown man with a babysitter….But now he’s gonna honor his friend….Give me a break

  11. “After ESPN televised an interview of Loleina Tonga, the woman who drove the truck from which the late Chris Henry jumped or fell, Pacman wrote that, essentially, if Henry had been the one driving the truck and Tonga had been the one who jumped or fell out, Henry would be in jail.”
    That is completely true. If she were a he, even, she’d be in jail.
    why would she or he be in jail? because some brain dead dumb$hit jumped in then back out of a moving vehicle? If I’m riding in a car with my g/f and I decide to barrel roll it out of the car at 70mph should she go to jail?

  12. GiorgioMustica we know you’re racist, but pacman’s absence from the game wasn’t because of any disciplinary reasons.. he got cut by dallas, and no one wanted him to sign him. so this trash about goodell’s discipline tactics is irrelevent.

  13. Pacman, Stallworth, and Matt Jones all together are not as bad as MIKE VICK. So everyone get off it.

  14. # TFBuckFutter says: February 11, 2010 11:48 PM
    “Pacman, Stallworth and Matt Jones?
    Something tells me the Bengals are trying to move away from football and into organized crime….ok, disorganized crime.”
    LMAO!
    As much as that franchise has gotten its tail kicked…WHY NOT?

  15. # TFBuckFutter says: February 11, 2010 11:48 PM
    “Pacman, Stallworth and Matt Jones?
    Something tells me the Bengals are trying to move away from football and into organized crime….ok, disorganized crime.”
    LMAO!
    As much as that franchise has gotten its tail kicked…WHY NOT?

  16. silverreign says:
    February 11, 2010 11:53 PM
    football=entertainment. who cares what these guys do off the field. i hope rock bands are doing blow and banging chicks left and right. and actors the same.
    kids will be kids my man right on, its all about wins in the NFL and sometimes xcons are the only way to go…bengals fans are the worst of any sport

  17. I hear Rae Carruth is next on the reclamation project list for the Bengals. Hell, if OJ still had something left, he’d get a shot too…

  18. Rae Carruth also has a standing
    offer from the bengals. Sorry but the bengals are a joke and lewis cant control any of them. No wonder they cabt win a playoff game.

  19. Playing for a team like a the Bengals?!?!?!?! He wasn’t kidding when he said he’s been a rebellion his whole life. I just hope they got some of those scripp clubs he likeded so much.

  20. The Bengals are definitely passed the point where this is ridiculous. I don’t want Matt Jones, I don’t want Pacman, I don’t want TO. I wish the Bengals would cut LJ, and then try not to draft someone who either has a criminal record or has been to rehab. I’m sick of the jokes, but if I wasn’t a Bengals fan, I’d be making them too.
    If it is true that the Bengals have worked out Pacman and M. Jones, then expect a headline soon that reads: Bengals workout former cast-off Odell Thurman.
    At least Thurman didn’t sell coke or kill anyone.

  21. All of you are dogging Pacman and Matt Jones, yet Ray Lewis is idolized in football and is still playing after being involved in murdering a man. Hipocrits. When the rat birds came to town here in Cincy, I saw those ignorant ass people wearing parkas with his face on them. You people realize you’re idolizing a MURDERER right? And that was intentional! What Pacman did wasn’t even intentional. It was ignorance on his part for driving under the influence, but he didn’t go out ready to kill someone.

  22. BengalsDouche2 – You must be too young to remember the facts of the Ray Lewis case (or you are as stupid as Pac Man). Anyone that followed that trial knows he had nothing to do with murdering those men. His only crime was covering it up and he pled guilty to that. Contrary to popular opinion, a DA does not just drop the charges against someone for murderer. The fact is, if Ray Lewis hadn’t been Ray Lewis, he would not have even been charged with the murderer. And one last point. Unlike Pac Man and Chris Henry and a lot of these other knuckle heads, Ray Lewis cleaned his act up. He has not had as much as a parking ticket since then. He realized that it was time to grow up and appreciate what he had and he has become a better man. But why am I bothering to even speak on this. Despite the clear facts to the contrary, you (and all the other haters out there) have your mind made up.

  23. Hey BengalDouche2 this just in!
    Rey Rey was never charged nor convicted of murder, manslaughter etc.
    It’s sad enough we have a front office that leads the league in ignorance, don’t need the fans to also.
    And what exactly is a hipocrit anyway Dbag?
    To quote Animal House: “Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life”

  24. BengalsDouche2 – Just to follow up on the history lesson:
    In the second week of the trial the prosecution case was weakened when four of its witnesses failed to identify Lewis as an aggressor in the fight, and it disintegrated when Duane Fassett took the stand. In a statement to police Fassett had said that he saw Lewis punch one of the victims, and that in the limousine as it left he had heard Oakley say, “I stabbed mine” and heard Sweeting reply, “I stabbed mine too.” But on the witness stand Fassett said that he had never seen Lewis throw a punch, and that he appeared to be trying to break up the fight. To the surprise of legal observers, District Attorney Howard didn’t even attempt to impeach the witness by confronting him with his earlier statement.
    Read more: Ray Lewis Trial: 2000 – Prosecution’s Murder Case Collapses http://law.jrank.org/pages/3821/Ray-Lewis-Trial-2000-Prosecution-s-Murder-Case-Collapses.html#ixzz0fKahpIdx
    So let me ask you this. If you and some friends are out on the town and someone starts a fight, are you a murderer if you tried to break up the fight but one of your friends stabs someone? I don’t think so. Unless you are the star middle linebacker on one of your favorite team’s biggest rivals. Get over it people. Ray Lewis tried to cover up a murder tp protect his image, his friends and his own ass. But that is a far cry from being the actually murderer.

  25. Pacman, Stallworth, and Matt Jones all together are not as bad as MIKE VICK. So everyone get off it.
    ==================================
    Sorry, but I value human life above animal life. A man is dead because of Stallworth’s actions. A man is paralyzed because of Pacman’s actions.
    The video of Pacman making it rain is appalling to me. I believe everyone deserves a second chance, but the Joneses don’t get it. You’re making millions of dollars to play a game. So what do you do? Pacman throws hundreds of thousands around a strip club and M. Jones decides he wants to be scarface.
    No wonder some pro athletes end up bankrupt. When they’re in college, they should all major in personal finances/English. When will that degree in field turf management pay-off? Oh well, at least it was easy.

  26. BengalsDouche2 you make no sense, the only difference between Pac and Ray is that Rays boys actually killed the man. Pacs boy just shot and paralized the bouncer of the club. So with your reasoning, Pac is a good dude because his victim is only maimed for the rest of his life. To be honest they both scare me.

  27. ray lewis was never convicted. pacman and matt jones are repeat offenders. while murder is a much more serious offense, maybe you would be better off taking a look at leonard little’s particular situation.
    also, ray lewis is a once-in-a-generation player. pacman and matt jones dont quite fit that bill.

  28. @kazkal: How are all those high-talent, low-price guys working out for you?
    @Douche2: “What Pacman did wasn’t even intentional. It was ignorance on his part for driving under the influence, but he didn’t go out ready to kill someone.” Ummmm….can you be more specific? Which of Pacman’s more than half-dozen run-ins with the law was not intentional? There’s a paralyzed man in Las Vegas who would like to point out that, even if he didn’t pull the trigger, Pacman’s “intentions” have had horrible effects for numerous people.

  29. I’m telling you, it’s the orange in the bengals uniform that does it, reminds them of home!
    On a more serious note, I can’t stand Lewis either, he should never have played ball again.

  30. I love it! The Bengals are knocking on the door and if these guys can play at the level they used to they could help us kick the damn thing in. Say what you want about Pacman but when he was a Titan he was one of the league’s better cover guys and Matt Jones failed as a #1 receiver, but as a deep threat/jump ball guy he could be awesome. I don’t give a damn what the media says or how much flack the organization catches; when it is 2 weeks before the playoffs and they’ve already clinched the division and a 1st round bye, no one will be saying anything except: “Wow, this is a team to fear in the playoffs!” WHO DEY!

  31. Matt Jones, healthy and drug free can be a good addition to any team. Pac man is a bum, and isn’t good enough to play in the CFL.
    Stallworth will probably come back on another team and finish his career on a positive note.

  32. Heard Tony Doungy is helping packman and carruth get back in the league,while at the same time putting bananas in the tailpipe of matt jones car to keep him from trying out.

  33. “A man is paralyzed because of Pacman’s actions.”
    Ummmm what? So you’re saying that Pacman shot the guy?

  34. I agree with Hinescries, Stallworth angers me the most of those people. He took a human life, and the saddest part is he could have been able to take a LIMO ANYWHERE HE WANTED. If it were any of us we wouldn’t see the day of light for another ten years, PacMan isnt much better he had put out a hit on someone allegedly. If he does come back (which I find tough to believe) I do hope that when he does mess up again, that Goodell finally would fine the team for bringing back someone who not only tarnishes his team but the league. Matt Jones deserves another chance the only life he was trying to ruin was his own, but he probably still has bricks… for hands.

  35. “A man is paralyzed because of Pacman’s actions.”
    Ummmm what? So you’re saying that Pacman shot the guy?
    “The video of Pacman making it rain is appalling to me. I believe everyone deserves a second chance, but the Joneses don’t get it. You’re making millions of dollars to play a game. So what do you do? Pacman throws hundreds of thousands around a strip club and M. Jones decides he wants to be scarface.”
    It wasn’t even his money! It was Nelly’s money! And I’ll tell you something else, the “rain” was supposed to be just for effect and it was agreed to beforehand that Nelly would get his money back. If some skanks and their “manager” gave the word to collect my friend’s money and split you bet your ass I’d do what I could to split every one of their heads open before they got the chance.

  36. I have to admit that there is a double standard going on here.
    Jones is a douche- no doubt, but he did not shoot or hurt anyone. His friends did. If he is guilty through association then Lewis has to be held to that standard as well.
    Lewis- was spared b/c of who he is. The fact that the police statement and testimony don’t match is an obvious indication that his friends were covering for him in the courtroom. I guarantee you he was involved in the fight and was not breaking it up- the dude is a raging hormone machine. If he tried to obstruct justice- that is a criminal offense. Remember that we charged a President for obstruction for trying to hide a blow job? Lucky for Lewis the Baltimore jails are full so they did not charge him.
    I know that we all want squeaky clean dudes on our teams, but they don’t exist or are very few. For all those years everyone thought Marvin Harrison was the man b/c he was so cool and calm and everyone wanted a guy like him on their team; turns out he was a closet psychopath. If it is ok for Lewis or Joey Porter to get a second chance then it should be the same for Joneses.

  37. Fact is he was never as good as he said he was as a player. Plus he’s a high maintenance troubled clown. There’s really no upside to this guy.

  38. In addition, I am sure that only me and Bech72 share this position. I think this could be a good move.
    Have Zimmer put him on a short leash and let him try out for the nickel or dime position. If he starts his old crap up during the offseason; cut him.
    If he makes the team, he would be an upgrade or good competition to Morgan Trent. We need a good 3rd and 4th CB to shut down teams like the Colts and Pats in the playoffs; or someone to step in if one of the starters go down. Right now we don’t have that person, and there are no CB’s available during FA so we are going to have to draft one in the 3rd or 4th round.

  39. Come on Bech, they won’t be able to clinch before the end of the season, The Steelers or Ravens will both be there, if they manage to stay healthy, and since when does signing people that haven’t played in over a year helped put a team over the hump.

  40. rolltide says:
    February 12, 2010 12:27 AM
    Pacman down widdit. Pacman gon’ drank. OH HE GON DRANK! Buleeeedat.
    Rolltide learn how to read/speak/write proper english. Your making your self look like a retard.
    P.S, Percy your a shart stain!

  41. Okay,
    NOW is this an indicator that TO will be coming????
    Peter King said on SI.com that the likelihood of TO playing in Cincinnati was the same as him running an ultra-marathon!!!
    TO is coming!!! The Bengals have not publicly ruled it out.
    However, just because you give a guy a workout it doesn’t automatically means that he will be signed or make the 2010 roster.
    Sorry Pacman!!! You’re likely going to the streets!!!

  42. @.VoxVeritas
    I didn’t say Pacman shot anyone. If he wouldn’t have been at the strip club acting like a clown and getting into fights, that man would still be walking.
    Pacman’s money, Nelly’s money, Bill Gate’s money, I don’t care whose money it is, throwing around a large quantity of money is retarded. So they expected these women to just let c-notes on the ground?
    Sticking up for trash-man jones and saying you’d split innocent people’s head open?

  43. Obeah—Stallworth isn’t worse than Vick, really? He took a human life. He should be in jail or dead, I could really care less either way. Yet, because he has the money, and he was able to pay the family enough money, he gets the jail free card.
    There should be a one strike policy for certain crimes. Burglary, Murder, Armed(anything), things of that nature, if you get arrested, you’re done. Deal with it. Some of these animals have to learn.

  44. blester01 – Your comment is unbelievable.
    1.) He did obstruct justice AND pled guilty to this offense.
    2.) The murder occured in ATLANTA, not Baltimore.
    3.) Saying YOU KNOW he was part of the fight when not a single other person was able to say that he was involved at all, is great. Do a little research before you make assumptions like this and you might be surprised. Just google the Ray Lewis trial and tell me that you see a single thred of evidence that indicates he laid a hand on anyone that night.
    It is comments like this that drive me crazy. People will forever remain convinced that Ray Lewis is a murderer despite the clear facts to the contrary. Why? Because THEY KNOW!!

  45. Assistant TO the Regional Manger says:
    February 12, 2010 11:46 AM
    “Some of these animals have to learn.”
    Who are YOU to determine if someone is an ‘animal’?

  46. As a Bengals fan there’s not much you can say by way of jokes that I haven’t heard so save ’em.
    The sad reality of all of this is that like it or not Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis desrve some credit here. Mike (The Great Redeemer) Brown has forged a path that some GM’s and owners in the league are sure to be envious of. Sure, none of them will come out and say it but so far Mr. Brown’s “redemption project” players have worked out.
    Cedric Benson…really deserves no explanation…has solidified himself as a top tier back in the league in 2 seasons and has had no off field issues.
    Tank Johnson…solid on the line, no issues.
    Chris Henry…albeit his playing time and production hadn’t increased as hoped prior to his untimely death it is still undeniable the guy was on, at the least, a better course than he was a few years ago and had provided no distractions to the team.
    I’ll admit I am still very cautious with this strategy but so far we have gotten good talent for little money. Period.
    It could all fall apart tomorrow but consider all of these players on one team:
    Cedric Benson
    Tank Johnson
    Roy Williams
    Matt Jones
    Pac-Man Jones
    Donte Stallworth
    At the least, it looks good on paper.
    WHO DEY.

  47. talk about much ado about nothing………you see more and more stories about NFL- ers rearing their ugly sides in the media and the NFL does nothing about it-really..why?are ticket sales down?

  48. It is a shame that we have lost the days of old when fathers taught their sons to route for a team based on sportsmanship and good character. In the 70’s role models were people like Roger Staubach, Lynn Swann or Ahmad Rashad. The 80’s brought names like Joe Montana, Mike Singletary, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Steve Largent and Jerry Rice. A couple decades later and role models are thugs, murderers and drug dealers…..what is wrong with this picture?

  49. Prison stripes to Bengal stripes, how appropriate.
    Don’t call it National Felon League for no reason.

  50. I followed Mr. Jones’ sports career and how he transformed his status from being the son of a single parent mom in a violent ghetto, to NFL player.
    To suggest that a man does not have a right to earn a living is un-American. Most of the readers’ disfavor is toward paying this athlete over a $million a season.
    No mention, scorn or derision is directed at owners who recruit troubled players. Why? Because these owners, who are risk takers, will sign the best athletes in the business for the advancement of their teams. Do you think TO would have been given so many chances if her wasn’t among the top receivers?
    If Mr. Jones has this ability (and he was an exemplary corner back when he played), I would expect that we give him another chance. After all, most of you do not know that he was also going through a bad divorce and that he lost his house at about the same time as when his problems climaxed. Good luck Pacman! Show ’em how to work it!

  51. He does not deserve to be called Mister Jones. Mister is a title of respect and respect must be earned. As far as I am concerned, he is a thug who thinks he is above the law and can do whatever he wants to do.
    I certainly hope the Bengals (my team) do not sign him. We have been down that path too many times during the last few years.

  52. It’s amazing.
    I fully agree with Most of the posts here.
    But all day, I’ve been hearing about “second chances” for people who have made stupid mistakes…And the ones who were saying that, were The Very Same People who tossed half-wit insults at the Dallas Cowboys for accepting Jones.
    If there is a Double Standard, it must be that for some reason, the Dallas Cowboys, “America’s Team” is held to a Higher Standard than any other team.
    Obviously, it Is the Way it Is.

  53. “you bet your ass I’d do what I could to split every one of their heads open”
    I’m sure you know how a strip club works (stripper takes off clothes, patron gives them money, sometimes in bizarre ways), yet when the employees pick up the money that was thrown all around them, you think beating women is the appropriate reaction?
    This makes me wonder how many grocery store clerks have a restraining order against Vox…

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