Myron Rolle's off-field success could hurt in the draft

ESPN’s Outside the Lines ran a story Sunday morning about Myron Rolle, the Florida State defensive back who became a Rhodes Scholar and is now a prospect in the 2010 NFL draft.

The whole segment is worth watching, and the companion piece by Wright Thompson at ESPN.com is worth reading, but the Outside the Lines segment ended on an odd note, citing ESPN’s draft experts as saying Rolle’s off-field pursuits would actually hurt his stock among NFL teams.

The thinking, according to ESPN, is that NFL teams want to draft guys who need to play football and want to study nothing more than a playbook — not guys like Rolle, who wants to become a doctor and enjoys studying the latest developments in stem cell research. The report said Rolle has dealt with this mentality before when his defensive coordinator at Florida State, Mickey Andrews, told Rolle that he was spending too much time on school and not enough time on football.

It’s kind of a sad commentary: After a great piece about what a fine young man Rolle is, ESPN felt the need to point out that being a fine young man could, in Rolle’s case, actually count against him on NFL teams’ draft boards.

But it’s surely true that Rolle could decide at any time to walk away from football and find greater success in another field. As far as NFL teams are concerned, that’s not a good quality in a draft prospect.

63 responses to “Myron Rolle's off-field success could hurt in the draft

  1. I hope the Vikings draft him at some point! You can never have enough smart players/people on your team!
    And if there is one guy who can handle the challenge, I think it’s Rolle!

  2. Really, they don’t think they could use a guy of this caliber or intelligence? How many guys have played well and gotten law degrees at the same time? Steve Young rings a bell as does his center Bart (blanking on last name). Martin Mayhew of the skins was the same way. There are guys like this, but you never hear about their off the field things because they are good and not bad. You don’t get in the paper by getting a graduate degree, you get in the paper by getting DUI’s or beating your wife. If a team thinks a guy is too smart, then they are freaking idiots. PERIOD.

  3. After reading this again, it’s just STUPID. Yeh, the NFL needs more Pacman (I can’t speak english) Jones. NO, it’s needs good citizens who are intelligent, contribute off the field and can play on the field. If I owned a team and my GM said this guy was “too smart” or “wants to be a doctor” someday as an excuse NOT to take him instead of a reason TO take him…I’d fire him.

  4. With as cheap as the Jaguars are, why not hire him to be a player as well as the team trainer?

  5. sword cuts both ways – can’t draft criminals and can’t draft guys who want something nobler in life besides football

  6. So it’s better to draft stupid players than smart players?
    Myron Rolle could probably absorb a playbook in half the time of some players.

  7. I don’t think being a ‘good guy’ is necessarily bad, but when a draft prospect is highly educated, he knows he can make a boatload of money without the NFL, and he may not want to risk concussions, etc. …and may retire earlier than most would expect. Point in case: RB Robert Smith from the Vikings, who retired after two pro bowl appearances in three years, after only eight seasons.
    He had all kinds of medical aspirations …that’s why I find it odd that Smith is doing some sports TV work now.

  8. This trepidation on the part of NFL scouts is warranted.
    If you think about it, it’s really no different from a draft prospect who is known to, say, indulge in sketchy off-field activities such as marijuana use.
    Vastly different connotations for these two polar opposite activities, but in the end they both have the same effect: it reduces focus on their job, which is playing the game of football.
    If I’m a coach, I neither want a deliquent who spends too much time in a haze of pot smoke, nor do I want a genius who could be instead contributing to society as a doctor or a scientist. I want someone whose life is tied to the game of football; someone who will work hard because he knows he HAS to work hard.

  9. PatricktheDookie you are such idiot make such an asinine comment. If you see how much team spend on players/personale Jags are nowhere at the bottom. You shut your mouth and go somewhere and show your hatred moron.

  10. Patrick, I’ll take him over “baby Jesus” Tebow any day of the week. I’m in the minority here in Jax.
    I imagine the line of thinking is from a why pay this guy millions and think we’ve got a position covered for 3-7 years if he does like the kid from the Bills who up and retired at 26 last week or the case of Robert Smith. I see the logic, but I doubt Rolle was a first rounder even had he not gone to Oxford for his studies. Secondary at FSU doesn’t have the same cachet it did even 5 years ago. I was thinking he was a third rounder to begin with.
    One things for sure, this draft has a lot of fascinating players in it who could go anywhere from 1st round to 5th round.

  11. so let me get this straight….teams should be weary of a guy who is a Rhoads Scholar, and wants to one day persue a medical degree…..ok….

  12. I think it’s being understated how and why this is a problem.
    If Rolle doesn’t succeed in a way he wants (in other words, if he’s not a starter in a good amount of time), he could just leave, become a doctor and researcher, and make boatloads of money anyways.
    Most NFL players have to keep their drive high to succeed in the NFL because they have no secondary option and thus they have higher success. I’m not saying Rolle won’t try as hard, but it will be harder for him to stay as motivated.

  13. The only this guy will have is the fact that he will not be able to talk to many of his team mates.
    He will have to become buddys with the QB unless he has VY or DR as a QB

  14. So teams are afraid that Myron Rolle may be the uber Robert Smith, another footballer with brains who walked away from the game while he still had tread left on his wheels? Or how about Napoleon Kaufman, who ditched the pigskin on account of his religiosity.
    The average player realizes that he is just a piece of meat in the grand scheme of the league. That some of these players are smart enough to figure that out shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone in the real world. NFL athletes have to consider their second life, especially since so few make it past their early thirties. “The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.”
    If the league has a vested interest in keeping the Myron Rolles of the world around beyond their rookie contract, it’s called a rookie salary cap.

  15. I think the only thing that would actually hurt his draft status is the fact that he was away from football for a year studying, which I could understand–but I think he will still be successful. I remember listening to an interview with this guy on NPR right after he became the Rhodes Scholar. Very interesting stuff. I want this guy on my team. You take a guy with that much intelligence and that much skill, there is no way he could be a flop.
    The NFL front office guys are typically smart people, who understand that the off the field interests will do nothing but help Rolle. To me, he will be a very relaxed player, b/c he knows he can do something else.
    I agree with whoever said the Colts will pick him up. Their owner seems like a guy that values things such as intelligence and academia.

  16. He is New England written all over him. Belichick loves his safeties to be very smart and the other safety position next to Brandon Meriweather is definitely upgradeable. I think Rolle goes to them with their last 2nd.

  17. Intelligence is probably the second most important quality to on-the-field success, right after passion. If you have those two things, and talent, the sky is the limit.
    I think there are very few coaches, GMs, etc who buy into this philosophy and it’s kind of surprising it’s not more of a widespread belief. I think the best two examples are the two Bill’s. Walsh and Belichick. Enough said, really.
    Best examples of players who lack one of these qualities:
    Vince Young (intelligence)
    Jay Cutler (passion)
    Antonio Cromartie (intelligence)
    Counter-examples who have both:
    Tom Brady
    Matt Ryan
    Nnamdi Asomugha
    Point being, you can be one of the most gifted specimens on the face of the planet, but if you don’t want to win or don’t know how to win, you’ll always be wasted potential. I think NFL types probably realize Rolle can easily be a hall of famer if he dedicated himself, but really, he should do what he wants to do. If he has a passion in medical science, then by all means he should go out and live his dream. Don’t be one of those guys who plays football because he feels like he has to. Go change the world with some major breakthrough in stem cell research.

  18. The Bills just lost a tackle. The guy just retired four years into his original five year contract. Teams don’t want to spend a lot of money on a kid that just wants to use football as a stepping stone.

  19. The entire premise of this article is ridiculous to say the least. So what ESPN is saying the NFL just wants a league full of illiterates and thugs, as long as they concentrate only on football. I can see it now….Sorry son, we were going to draft you, but that Rhodes Scholar thing has us a bit worried, now if you’d have just cheated on exams and tests like the rest of the FSU players. Like I said, ridiculous. But i think the saddest part of this is the coach who tells him he’s spending too much time on school and not enough on football, that’s a truly sad commentary.

  20. Team’s aren’t afreaid of his IQ, they’re afraid of his priorities. It is clear that football is not his top priority. He wants to be a Dr, and he has stated that ever since high school.
    He may be a good kid, but the fact is that 2 years down the road, he may decide he’s earned enough to pay for med school and say goodbye to the NFL. That is a real possibility.
    In that regard, Rolle really does need to be evaluated similarly to a guy who is a thug or has a major injury. Yes, he’s talented but will he still be in the league 5 years from now?
    On the other hand, Rolle did claim academics was the major factor in picking a school and he chose Florida State instead of a school like Stanford, so maybe he does put football first when push comes to shove.

  21. He can play AND be part of the medical staff. That’s a two for one. In today’s economy, how can you NOT draft him?!

  22. Can’t he study his playbook at the “scrip” club?
    Well, some team can hope he makes them proud by finding a nice happy medium between brilliant and worthless piece of shit.
    The NFL certainly can use a few more of the latter. I don’t think I’ve heard about an NFL player getting arrested for at least ten whole minutes.

  23. It’s kind of a sad commentary: After a great piece about what a fine young man Rolle is, ESPN felt the need to point out that being a fine young man could, in Rolle’s case, actually count against him on NFL teams’ draft boards.
    ==========================
    I agree with you ALMOST completely- but you can’t blame ESPN for pointing it out if they heard if from teams- it’s part of the overall story.
    The fact is, despite the hero worship you hear from announcers and talking heads, that most football coaches, except for MOST of the head coaches, are meatheads. The reason they work 90 hours a week during the season is because nothing happens real fast mentally with this crowd. They can’t grasp- or if they can grasp, they resent- the fact there is a player out there who is capable of digesting and understanding a playbook and a gameplan in a short enough period of time that they actually have time for other things.
    This is nothing new- there have been reports for years about teams shying away from players who score too HIGH on the wonderlic test. Scouts and coaches are so used to dealing with knuckle draggers, and so many are themselves knuckledraggers, that they are naturally suspicious of highly intelligent players.

  24. I guess if this guy gang-raped the cheerleaders at his school, he’d be a sure-fire 2nd rounder. I didn’t realize intelligence=draft bust.

  25. typical Ozzie Newsome type of player. See you in the 2nd or 3rd round. Both Hopkins and U of Md have very nice medical schools in the city of Bmore. We’ll find a nice purple jersey for you here.

  26. Lets put him next to the Best safety in football . Troy Polamalu . Smart players thrive in Dicks defense . Ravens he is a FS . Replacing Ed Reed already ? lol DUMBASSES

  27. Honestly, having other interests and aspirations is about as dumb a reason to not draft a player there could be.
    Any NFL player who is a millionaire could quit the game any time they want to for another pursuit.
    What’s next, they aren’t going to draft players that want to have families? Because raising a child takes away from football?

  28. It’s hard not to root for Rolle to do well in the NFL but let’s be perfectly honest, if you saw him at FSU he didn’t exactly dazzle.

  29. DeeDubb says:
    February 21, 2010 10:51 PM
    It’s hard not to root for Rolle to do well in the NFL but let’s be perfectly honest, if you saw him at FSU he didn’t exactly dazzlE
    ======================
    From Wikipedia:
    In the 2008 season game versus the University of Miami Hurricanes, Seminoles defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews remarked that Rolle played the best and most complete game he has ever seen a safety play at Florida State University in his 25 years of coaching.
    ESPN’s recruiting services ranked Rolle as the number one high school prospect in the country.
    In 2008, he earned Associated Press 3rd team All-American honors as well as Football Writers Association America 2nd team All-ACC and CoSIDA Academic All-America.
    =================================
    You’re right, the dude could hardly play at all.

  30. If he tells how long he plans to play in the NFL it will help teams decide where he should be drafted. His committment to football is the question. I sure wouldn’t want to use an early draft pick for a guy that may or may not play out his rookie deal. He might be a good player and role model, but his priorities are what drives away some of these teams

  31. Alan Page. He was considered an oddball because he was pursuing a law degree while playing. Where is he now? HOF and Minnesota State Supreme Court Justice.
    A friend of mine was told the same thing by one of his college coaches–he was too focused on his studies. He played one year in the AFL and went back to school. He earned a Ph.D., got tenure, and later became chair of his department and then an associate dean of his college. He has no regrets.

  32. I hope the Vikings draft him at some point! You can never have enough smart players/people on your team!
    And if there is one guy who can handle the challenge, I think it’s Rolle!
    Yeah counting Rolle that would make what? by my count 1 smart player in that locker room!

  33. defensive player reading coverage and making smart split decisions adapting to a play book quickly to fill a starting role in your first year in the nfl for a team in high demand. I see an oxford student/great athlete as a high first round draft pick. It seems like any easy decision for a team to make. you got to have a head on your shoulders too.

  34. Some people are stupid. It sounds like he’s intelligent enough to not have to spend much time on his playbook. He would be and asset to any team.

  35. DeeDubb says:
    February 21, 2010 10:51 PM
    It’s hard not to root for Rolle to do well in the NFL but let’s be perfectly honest, if you saw him at FSU he didn’t exactly dazzle.
    Ding ding ding! Based off his football talent alone, might be a 2nd or 3rd. This wouldn’t “cost him” a higher pick or anything. He will still be drafted. Pats and Colts are two franchises where he’d just make sense.
    Anyway, tons of current players have side careers for when they retire. OchoCinco works his ass off, but since he has his own stuff goin on, I guess some people would say he’s lazy.
    W/E ESPN just wants people on message boards and blogs to talk about their report.

  36. I’m a little surprised at this statement: “NFL teams want to draft guys who need to play football and want to study nothing more than a playbook”
    How many times have we heard from star players that they don’t particularly love football, are just in it for a paycheck, take plays off and do the bare minimum in the weight & film room? A lot, that’s for sure.

  37. Its sad that coaches were complaining he spends too much time with school stuff….
    I love how its a knock when guys have asperations outside of the NFL.

  38. Rolle is a stand up guy.i would hope 50 percent of the nfl would think like him.with that said bears 4th round pick.(and he will be our gm and coach after one year playing)

  39. is it that bad to have ONE player on your roster who isnt totaly dump, doesnt smash his wife in the offseason and names Playboy his favourite “book” ???
    i think whatever team will get him, will get one heck of a player.

  40. I’ll own up to a bit of bias here – I went to the same university as Rolle (no, not FSU, the other one). Bearing in mind that you don’t get into Oxford without being academically gifted (there are no sports scholarships except as top-ups for students who also meet the academic requirements), quite a few very successful athletes went to Oxford. For example:
    Sir Roger Bannister (first runner to break the 4 minute mile and a leading neurologist in later life)
    Sir Matthew Pinsent (four times Olympic Gold Medal-winning rower)
    Imran Khan (Pakistan cricket legend and politician)
    Douglas Jardine (England cricket captain)
    C.B. Fry (international sprinter, world long jump record holder, England cricket captain, England footballer, top division rugby player, in later life teacher, League of Nations diplomat and reputedly once offered the chance to be king of Albania, and in his 70s could jump backwards onto a mantelpiece…)
    Stephanie Cook (Modern Penthathlon Olympic Champion)
    Colin Cowdrey (England cricket captain)
    There are hundreds more, particularly in cricket and rugby union (the two main team sports at Oxford after rowing). My point is that high academic achievement is not an obstacle to sporting achievement. Much as many of us hate to admit, there are people out there who are brilliant athletes and genuinely clever.

  41. Seems like Myron likes all the race baiters…Cornell West–Jesse Jackson–Al Sharpton—-

  42. mike428 says:
    February 21, 2010 9:36 PM
    I guess if this guy gang-raped the cheerleaders at his school, he’d be a sure-fire 2nd rounder. I didn’t realize intelligence=draft bust.
    ————————————————-
    How can one guy “gang-rape” anyone? Isn’t “gang” by definition more than one?

  43. a total shame that someone as smart as this kid has it viewed as a liability. stupid freak’n ebonic speak’n double negative gangsta thugs … axe them … it be a benefit, ain’t it?

  44. agree on sportsfan
    whats bad about a player who can speak, write and doesnt finish every sentence with “yo knw im sayn”, “holla at ya boy” or some other thug crap??
    specially the position he is playing at Safety, isnt it supposed to be some sort of the defensive QB where some smart is required to read offenses plays etc???
    i hope the fins draft this kid

  45. …Rolle could decide at any time to walk away from football and find greater success in another field. As far as NFL teams are concerned, that’s not a good quality in a draft prospect.”
    Has it ever been more obvious that college is a total friggin’ joke for 99.5% of these guys? I mean, why don’t they just come out and say it?
    “…defensive coordinator at Florida State, Mickey Andrews, told Rolle that he was spending too much time on school and not enough time on football.
    Let’s hope that someday Mickey Andrews finds himself in the midst of a heart-attack, and the only person available to help him is a barely-literate FSU troglodyte like Antonio Cromartie.

  46. …Rolle could decide at any time to walk away from football and find greater success in another field. As far as NFL teams are concerned, that’s not a good quality in a draft prospect.”
    Has it ever been more obvious that college is a total friggin’ joke for 99.5% of these guys? I mean, why don’t they just come out and say it?
    “…defensive coordinator at Florida State, Mickey Andrews, told Rolle that he was spending too much time on school and not enough time on football.
    Let’s hope that someday Mickey Andrews finds himself in the midst of a heart-attack, and the only person available to help him is a barely-literate FSU troglodyte like Antonio Cromartie.

  47. “…defensive coordinator at Florida State, Mickey Andrews, told Rolle that he was spending too much time on school and not enough time on football.”
    The exact reason I think college football is such a joke, you finally get a kid that takes advnatage of a free education and he gets criticized for it.
    True, there is a chance he could just suddenly quit football for med school and the team could be screwed. But the far more likely situation that could happen is the one that does all the time like as follows
    – a kid coasts his way through school and is barely literate and he gets to attend a t a school like USC or Michigan for FREE that normal students with 3.8 GPAs get wait listed willing to spend 10’s of thousands to attend. He half asses his way through one of the most prestgious institutions in the land, get’s drafted, starts living like a rock star, has 3 kids from different women, beats up a girlfriend, gets 2 dui’s, can barely learn the palybook and never lives up to the hype.Then he blows an ACL out and is out of the leauge. The kid is then 25 and going broke since he blew most of his signing bonus and is crying for the NFLPA to take care of him because he has never worked a normal job in his life and can barely speak english.
    Sorry, I’ll draft the kid that studied and knows that double negatives are not acceptable and that “aint” isnt a word.

  48. hahahahaha @ filthylucre – good one
    Andrews: Cromartie help me my chest
    Cromartie: holla at ya homeboy ive seen all the cloonay shiat emergency room ni**a
    Andrews: wheres my wallet and watch
    Cromartie: gone

  49. the new jersey athlete has a reputation of being smarter than other athletes so whats the problem,this is a a win win for everybody,he can play and we wont get in any trouble off the field

  50. I will take this guy on my team any day of the week. Class act kid and an upstanding citizen. And I’ll take him over Travis Henry, Pacman Jones, and any of the other classless retards in the league.

  51. “After a great piece about what a fine young man Rolle is, ESPN felt the need to point out that being a fine young man could, in Rolle’s case, actually count against him on NFL teams’ draft boards.”
    I hope you’re not blaming ESPN for this, though. They’re just reporting the truth, which is pro teams want you to be all about football. The book “Patriot Reign” also details this phenomenon, talking about how the Pats regretted drafting TE Jabari Holloway from Notre Dame. According to the book, the team considered the fact that Holloway took extra classes (in chemistry I think) to be a sign that he wasn’t focussed enough on football, and regretted taking the chance on a guy with other interests besides football.

  52. Personally, I think Rolle should ditch football and go into medicine right now. The money he’ll make short term in football will be available to him as a successful neurosurgeon or researcher…probably more in the long run.
    The risks outweigh the rewards for him in football. If he hurts his hands, his career as a surgeon is finished. And if he gets concussed once too often, that Rhodes Scholarship he received is useless after football.
    But as an NFL team, I also understand the trepidation in drafting him. If you own a business, would you employ a PhD, MD, or JD (I will refrain from making a comment about NBC or presumably unqualified holders of such degrees in deference to Florio’s possession of said doctorate) to run it for you, knowing that he has the option to walk away at any time to pursue something he’s actually trained to do, and that offers a higher earning potential?
    Don’t be that guy who just out of hand says you would because you want smart people in your employ. You wouldn’t want him dividing his attention between your business and a secondary interest with infinite possibilities that you can’t match, which is why so many companies have strict moonlighting policies in place.
    There is such a thing as being overqualified for a particular job, and this would seem to be a classic example of that.
    I would love to have him on my team as a role model to his teammates and community, but he needs to see the bigger picture and make the correct decision for himself and those who sacrificed to help him succeed both academically and athletically. And if he was my brother, son, uncle, etc., I would make it very clear that going into medicine gives him the possibility of some day owning the team, but playing has the possibility of killing his medical career.
    Whatever road he chooses, I wish him well. It’s a shame more people don’t take advantages of their natural abilities to the degree that this young man has.

  53. “…being a fine young man could, in Rolle’s case, actually count against him on NFL teams’ draft boards.”
    It certainly knocks him down on the Bengals and Cowboys draft boards.

  54. Everyone, we need to get a few facts straight. One of the main criteria for the Rhodes Scholarship is “energy to use one’s talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports…” In fact 25% of selected Rhodes Scholars have been varsity athletes, no to mention a good group of club athletes have gotten it as well. Myron received a 3.75…in exercise science… congratulations. Exercise science is almost unarguably the easiest or second easiest major in any college curriculum. Furthermore, Myron has not taken any of the necessary steps to become a medical professional, much less a neurosurgeon. Has he completed the basic requirements for a pre-med path? Possibly. Has he taken the MCAT? Definitely not. If he takes the MCAT and does well, I will change my mind. However, I think the NFL will prove too financially appealing for him. You do the math. Spend $200,000 and 4 years then get paid a maximum of $70,000 a year for another 6 years of residency then start practicing medicine in your mid thirties, that’s if he starts in two years. Imagine if he played for 5 or 6 years. Then put another 10 years on top of that? This guy isn’t going into medicine, he is a football player first and foremost. Exercise science…come on.. Why not laud an NFL player with a real degree. Craig Dahl, mechanical engineering. That takes real intelligence. Anyone want to challenge any of this?

  55. Knowitall, all valid points… except the average salary for a medical resident is closer to 42,000 per year… Definitely far less lucrative than the NFL.

  56. stormchaser97, thanks for your comment. To clarify, I was speaking on neurosurgery residency specifically. Which is supposedly the field in which he would like to practice.

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