Sean Payton gives the Cowboys some extra motivation

S.Payton.jpgAs the New Orleans Saints continue their extended victory lap with the Lombardi Trophy, word has emerged of a pair of Indianapolis indignities that will make one of the only teams to beat the Saints in 2009 even more determined to knock them off in 2010.

The story comes from Peter King of SI.com. 

The Saints’ staff had dinner on Friday night at St. Elmo Steakhouse.  Coach Sean Payton wanted a magnum of Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon.  (We assume that opening the bottle entailed no unscrewing.)

The only problem?  Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was hosting his staff in the same room the next night, and Jones had phoned ahead and reserved a bottle of the same wine.  But there was only one left.

Payton insisted, and in continuation of a recent trend he won. 

It wasn’t enough for Payton to secure the wine.  The next night, when the Cowboys arrived, the empty bottle was on the table with a handwritten note on the label:  “WHO DAT!  World Champions XLIV, Sean Payton.”

Did we mention that the Saints play in Dallas this year?

And why do we suddenly have a strange feeling that the Saints are going to sign T.O.?

145 responses to “Sean Payton gives the Cowboys some extra motivation

  1. The Cowboys with no wine? Impossible.
    Besides, every Cowboys fan thinks JJ can turn water into wine (actually, he just tells everyone it’s wine and no one has the balls to disagree).

  2. That is HilARIOUS.
    Nothing wrong with a bit of friendly egging on to beef up the competition next year.
    Funny Stuff.

  3. I’ve heard 3 separate stories about him being a supreme douchebag from credible sources. At least this time he’s being a dick to someone who can handle their own and not some poor bastard who has the misfortune of having to work around him.

  4. Great move Payton.
    TO in New Orleans has about as much chance of happening as I do of becoming the starting QB for the Raiders……hold on a second I’m getting a call from the 510

  5. Great story. Except, um, the Cowboys beat the snot out of the Saints this year…so Dallas should be World Champs!!!!
    Kidding of course, but there is a nice bit of irony there.

  6. That’s funny. But seriously if you are a restaurateur, who would you rather keep happy a billionaire in town at least a couple times a year or an NFL coach who is expensing his dinner?

  7. It’s this type of old-school dissing that legendary rivalries are based on. Lets hope this gets interesting.

  8. Saints signing T.O.? Only if they lose Lance Moore.
    It’s obvious Peter King hates the Saints.

  9. “Jerry Jones (post Jimmy Johnson era) always loses when it counts. ”
    I gather you missed Super Bowl 30.
    “Besides, every Cowboys fan thinks JJ can turn water into wine (actually, he just tells everyone it’s wine and no one has the balls to disagree).”
    Right, as opposed to all that “gold standard” crap, which every 0-3gle fan in the world ate up without question, like so much pablum. Rah rah, fanboi.
    The 0-3gles with no Super Bowl trophies? Not only is it not impossible, it’s a fact of life.
    As for the bottle of wine, I’m sure that Payton made sure that he knew where Jones party would be sitting and made sure that an empty bottle would be there waiting for him the next night after probably hundreds of people came and went in the interim.
    Get real.
    Payton obviously autographed the bottle for some restaurant shlep like Kevin from Philly, then the shlep thought it would be funny to bring the empty to Jones the next day. I’m sure that it had nothing to do with Payton trying to take a shot at Jones, from what I hear they’re great friends, mainly because Jones rescued his career after the Giants took a big dump on him. Or I dunno, I guess he could be mad that Jones’ team marched into New Orleans and beat the previously undefeated Aints.

  10. Are players really going to get more pumped up because the other coach jacked the owner’s expensive bottle of win? If so, I have to wonder what’s going to get them up for the other 15 games.
    And, yes, Payton is an a-hole.

  11. TO will be signing with the Saints. He’s a perfect fit with the Saints organization and fanbase in terms of arrogance.

  12. I click on the Peter King story looking to start the day off with a laugh as Jerry has to drink a bottle of Boone’s Farm while thinking of what could have been if he’d promoted Payton. That would have been great.
    BUT NO! Instead Florio and King use bait-and-switch to push their obsession about OT rules.
    For the LAST TIME – you get 60 minutes to score more points, so . . . SCORE MORE POINTS!!!
    Which is the better “whine” – the Caymus Special Selection with its fine oak and currant finish or the Florio/King with its eau de loser backwash finish?

  13. I would have liked to see the look on that plastic face, when he saw the note.
    Let the rivalry start NOW!

  14. Hahahahaha.
    Jerry Jones gets what he deserves.
    The Saints lost to the Cowboys but took home the Lombardi, and that’s all that matters.
    And I think the Saints have a better chance than the Cowboys of taking home the Lombardi next year too.

  15. T.O. is for teams with no receiving corps. He’d be lucky to make the Saints practice squad.

  16. “Shocker. Stay classy, Sean Payton.”
    Congratulations! It only took a few posts for you to drop the anticipated, “Stay classy,” which is quickly becoming the most overused phrase in the English language.

  17. A very poor decision by someone at St. Elmos even if they replaced the magnum in time for Jones’s arrival. Poor taste, bad publicity and they most likely lost a customer in Jones. I’m not a Jerry Jones fan but he did the proper thing by calling ahead and reserving the wine and the restaurant breached an oral agreement.
    Payton’s antics were classless even if he meant to be funny. And not likely to be forgotten by other owners. Another poor decision.

  18. Ahh who cares? The Saints were a fluke and won’t make near as much noise next year, and the Cowboys choke every year…moving right along to free agency

  19. die hard Cowboys fan here.
    This is precisley why we shouldn’t have let him get away!
    He can say whatever the hell he wants.

  20. Of course if it wasn’t for a heart to heart conversation with Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones’ checkbook, Sean Payton would hold the exhalted position of former Raiders’ Head Coach.

  21. real classy, sean payton. i agree with racer-x. as a business owner, why would you allow that to happen? sean payton is hot now but he probably won’t even have a job in a few years and jerry jones will still be a billionaire nfl owner who boycotts your restaurant because you pulled a douche move on him.

  22. Reports from the wait staff indicate Jones showed no emotion when he saw the bottle. But that could be because all of the plastic surgery has left him with a single facial expression.

  23. Good Stuff from SP. That wine is like 3-4 bills a bottle, I’m sure it goes down NICE.

  24. @ .VoxVeritas

    First, learn how to use HTML tags if you’re going to dissect posts.

    Second, the “Aints” have won one more Super Bowl, played in one more Super Bowl, two more NFC championship games and won four more playoff games than your Cowboys.

    The Browns were awesome in the ’50s and ’60s; not so much any more. Stop living in the past. Wake me when the Cowboys when a Super Bowl again. Until then, quit referring to world champs as the Aints. They deserve more respect than some team crowing about a 24-17 regular-season victory.

  25. He hasn’t learned as much from Parcells and Belichick as he claims to have.

  26. Do not feel to bad VOX. Atleast your team now has a playoff win in the last some odd teen years.

  27. It will be fun to watch someone knock the smug cockyness out of this chicken shit coach.
    Thanks Reggie!

  28. The Saints are no fluke – they have the best offense in the league year-in and year-out. In 2007 and 2008 they were held back by a garbage defense.
    Drew Brees makes Tony Romo look like a JV quarterback, for the record.

  29. Night train said: This is precisley why we shouldn’t have let him get away!
    He can say whatever the hell he wants.
    He would also say that all cowgirls fans like yourself, are the biggest CRY BABIES!!!!!

  30. Vox, why do you insist on turning every one of your boring, predictable posts into an “I hate Eagles Shit Storm”? You sound awfully bitter and miserable. You mad because your ‘boys’ got shit on in the playoffs? And you taking it out on the profootballtalk.com readers?
    Vox, you are a scary Interneter …. ooo, I am very intimidated, lol.
    LOL, U mad, Brah?

  31. An arrogant rich coach and a rich pompous owner arguing about some expensive wine – this is a non-story and these fools are definitely not in touch with the fans and everyday life.

  32. Haha, you guys are all retarded. Sean Payton and Jerry Jones are friends, and Payton has pronounced his respect for Jones on many, many an occasion. It was a joke with an old friend, and a pretty good one at that.
    Jerry Jones isn’t a weenie, unlike some of you here, and he isn’t going to boycott a restaraunt because Sean Payton drank his bottle of wine.
    And “other owners” aren’t going to hold it against him. Thats absurd…seriously, this is one of the biggest bunch of sissy comments I’ve read in a while.

  33. when a team has been the laughing stock of the NFL for decades, you act stupid like that! just shows how classy payton really is…act like you have one before saints fans will ya?…oh wait this is new to you guys!…LOL!!!

  34. Well done Saints. Nothing like seeing a downtrodden franchise rise up… and then become exactly like the a-holes they always wanted to beat. Class… the one thing always in short supply.

  35. Granted the Saints had two mediocre years (07 and 08) tons of injuries etc. Be aware that the Saints have been to the NFC title game twice in 4 years under Payton. Hard to call it a fluke. If Payton had run the ball in Chicago, the Saints likely would have beaten Indy twice in the SB in the last 4 years.
    In terms of Dallas, a very talented team that has to be one of the front runners for the 2011 SB. That being said Payton is 1-1 against the Cowboys, 2006 42-17 Saints in Dallas and a 24-17 loss in 2009. Incidentally, I am not sure that I look at the game as having the snot beaten out. The Saints have 3 TO’s, a dropped TD by Devery Henderson, and top 3 corners on the bench but lose by 7 to a team that had to win to salvage their season – wow. Dallas was the better team that night but far from dominance.
    Anyway, I must say the hate is fun as it only happens when a team is relevant.

  36. .VoxVeritas says:
    March 1, 2010 10:29 AM
    from what I hear they’re great friends
    ————————————————-
    The pillow talk conversations that you have with Demarcus Ware do not count as a credible source of information.

  37. I love all the Stay Classy and arrogance statements. It was a $200 bottle of wine. Jones probably had it added to a LIST of wines. Sean Payton ordered just that wine. He and Jerry Jones are on friendly terms, that’s the reason behind the friendly jab (and why he let the Cowboys win when the game meant little to the Saints and they needed it or they were out of the playoffs ;P). I’m just sayin!

  38. WAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!
    Only Steers & Queers in Dallas!!
    @ Vick Veritas,
    He said “JJ era”…Barry Switzer inherited JJ’s team…way to know your own crappy team! Much like Facelift Jones, your a tewlbag!

  39. This story is BS. Funny, but not true.
    You think JJ calls and makes reservations himself and “reserves” wine?
    Billionaires hire people to do this for them.
    Sorry, not buying it.

  40. I’m sure this is pinup locker room stuff…..now where is that roll eyes smilie face thingy when I need it most?
    Funny stuff however.

  41. “TO will be signing with the Saints. He’s a perfect fit with the Saints organization and fanbase in terms of arrogance.”
    Actually, that’s why he fit in so well at Dallas.

  42. “Besides, every Cowboys fan thinks JJ can turn water into wine (actually, he just tells everyone it’s wine and no one has the balls to disagree).”
    Actually, a typical Cowboys message board has no shortage of Jerry-bashing. But why let the facts get in your way? You never have before.

  43. OMG 40for58, the saints are arrogant… lmao the dog on Cowgirls are the most arrogant team in the league. Always have been and always will be. Calling yourself America’s team… that is arrogant. I agree Borg30, the Cowboys are nothing but Cry Babies!! They are so arrogant too that they have to blame their QB’s girlfriend for losing and can’t admit they were to blame for losing not her. Oh also they have to build that new huge stadium because of their owners arrogance just because they think they are better than everyone else. Look who is calling the kettle black. Also the Cowboys fanbase is the one that is arrogant. Heck i live in Northwest Louisiana and the Cowboys fans here are the most cockiest people i have met in my life. The Saints fanbase is the most loyal fanbase in the country. We are trueblue fans not arrogant one bit.

  44. @toe-to-toe bird law
    Since the Dallas Morning News is reporting that Jones and Payton were spotted together with other Cowboys’ staffers elsewhere in Indy, I’m guessing you don’t count them as a credible source either.

  45. “First, learn how to use HTML tags if you’re going to dissect posts.”
    I don’t need to be preached to by a freaking Aints fan that doesn’t know thedifference between “win” and “when”.
    “Second, the “Aints” have won one more Super Bowl, played in one more Super Bowl, two more NFC championship games and won four more playoff games than your Cowboys.”
    No they haven’t. If you’re going to play the “the past doesn’t matter” game, then play it. Don’t try to tell me that one team’s past doesn’t matter and another team’s past does.
    “The Browns were awesome in the ’50s and ’60s; not so much any more. Stop living in the past. Wake me when the Cowboys when a Super Bowl again.”
    No, YOU wake me up when the Aints “when” a Super Bowl again. It’s not so hard getting there ONCE. Sooner or later the law of averages catches up to most teams, and the Aints are decidedly behind the curve. The real trick is to do it again. And again. And again. And again.

  46. @Vox Veritas
    The Cowboys haven’t won a championship since Aikman was QB & JJ/Switzer coaching and that was almost 2 decades ago, but yet you think you’re team is better than the Saints because of a measly regular season win by 7 points that kept your team in playoff contention, which could’ve went to OT had Devery Henderson not dropped the TD?? LMAO
    Y’all finally win a playoff game in 15 years and now all of a sudden you think you’re the best. If you want to be crowned regular season champs because of that, you can have that. I’d take a pointless regular season loss any day like that if I can win a SB championship!
    CLOWN!

  47. # .Cox Veritas says: March 1, 2010 11:09 AM
    Wow. Just like
    Vox’s Mommy says:
    Vox’s dead mother says:
    Voxy Moron says:
    VoxVagina says:
    Often imitated, never duplicated.
    “Vox, why do you insist on turning every one of your boring, predictable posts into an “I hate Eagles Shit Storm”?”
    Because I can, dumbass. Got any more stupid questions?
    “btw-hillarious name bro”
    Hey look, you’ve got the support of the double-digit IQ crowd!

  48. Let New Orleans sign the cancer Owens, it will be the death of the franchise winning ways.

  49. “The Saints have 3 TO’s, a dropped TD by Devery Henderson, and top 3 corners on the bench but lose by 7 to a team that had to win to salvage their season – wow. Dallas was the better team that night but far from dominance.”
    Yeeeeah the score was 24-3 at the start of the 4th quarter and the Aints scored a couple of garbage time TDs against prevent D to make it LOOK respectable.
    But it wasn’t as close as the final score might indicate. Cowboys converted >50% of their third downs while giving up only 1 of 7 and hung 439 yards including 145 rushing yards on the Aints. They averaged 6 yards per offensive play against them! If that’s not “dominance”, then “dominance” doesn’t exist.

  50. “The pillow talk conversations that you have with Demarcus Ware do not count as a credible source of information.”
    Ware says he’s content to just keep on screwing McNabb.
    20-16
    24-0
    34-14

  51. “He said “JJ era”…Barry Switzer inherited JJ’s team…”
    You need to reference the word “era”, lowbrow. Jeez you guys are dumber than hammered shit!

  52. Kevin from Philly says:
    March 1, 2010 10:07 AM
    The Cowboys with no wine? Impossible.
    LMFAO… Sean Payton, I salute you. You too Kev from Philly!

  53. Vox,
    It is time for you to bow to Jerry Jones picture.
    Get your Cowboy Prayer rug out.

  54. “The Cowboys haven’t won a championship since Aikman was QB & JJ/Switzer coaching and that was almost 2 decades ago, but yet you think you’re team is better than the Saints”
    Yes.
    “Y’all finally win a playoff game in 15 years”
    OH NO YOU DIDN’T bring up playoff wins. Even with the playoff win drought, the Cowboys as many Super Bowl trophies as the Aints have playoff wins in their entire existence, dummy.

  55. .VoxVeritas says:
    March 1, 2010 12:29 PM
    I don’t need to be preached to by a freaking Aints fan that doesn’t know thedifference between “win” and “when”.
    ——————————————–
    “Thedifference?” Those is glass houses, asshole.

  56. go ahead saints fans and puff up your chest. 1 superbowl win in 40+ years in the league so drift back into obscurity. thanks for playing.

  57. whodat222 says:
    Why is it that it seems like everybody from Louisiana types like they’re a middle school dropout? They have junior high schools in Louisiana, right?

  58. I am so glad your happy about your win against the Saints this year Vox. Its really nice to win against a team that is injured. Heck in 06 when Brown was in your so called god Ware didnt do crap to Brees. I would have loved to see what we would have done against you with your starting corners out. lol well atleast we scored more than 3 points against the Vikings in the playoffs. lmao Did Romo have a fight with his girlfriend that week or what…. lmao

  59. “This story is BS. Funny, but not true.
    You think JJ calls and makes reservations himself and “reserves” wine?”
    I’m SHOCKED, utterly SHOCKED I tell you that St. Elmo’s had one bottle of this particular wine, knew there was a reservation for another, and didn’t re-stock. I realize that it’s expensive swill, but I think that if you can charge $9 for an order of onion rings you should be able to afford to keep a few bottles of each wine that’s listed on your wine list onhand just in case. This is just poor management.

  60. Sean Payton used to coach for Dallas. Don’t you think he knows Jerry Jones, just a little bit? Assuming this happened, this is just a little ribbing from “friends”, or at least business acquaintances.
    It would not surprise me one bit if one of Jerry’s “handlers”, probably the one who actually called the restaurant to order the wine, saw Coach Payton in the restaurant and told him to order “a magnum of Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon”, knowing there was just one bottle in the restaurant, just to set Jerry off and observe his reaction.
    Classic way to set off the boss and observe the reaction. I salute the Dallas staffer who alerted Sean Payton and told him which wine to order.

  61. You’re making yourself look like an ass by constantly going on and on about how much the Cowboys beat the Saints in the regular season and how the score wasn’t as close as indicated.
    Bottom line, the Saints won the Super Bowl, and the other 15 NFC teams didn’t (particularly Cowboys and Vikings).

  62. .VoxVeritas says:
    March 1, 2010 12:46 PM
    Ware says he’s content to just keep on screwing McNabb.
    —————————————–
    So you’re confirming that Demarcus Ware is a homosexual?

  63. It’s understandable that Payton would be a little bitter about the loss to the Cowboys, maybe he’ll find a way to block D Ware…but probably not

  64. I have to wonder if Sean has a grateful bone in his body? Like it or not, the Pokes gave him a job when the Giants were ready to toss him out the door and the opportunity led to him getting the job with the Saints. Or is this just something that someone dreamed up to make Payton look bad. Nah – NO ONE would EVER do that, right?

  65. Did somebody shit in Vox’s Special K this morning?
    I love that we’re the arrogant ones. The Cowboys and ESPN and Florio are already talking about Dallas playing in the Superbowl. Aikmans schilling wings, Emmitt took up ballet, and Michael’s up to his old tricks. Your superbowl team is long gone. Cling to the past like you cling to your Cowgirls blanket.

  66. Say what you will about him but it’s painfully clear that Payton has Cajones the size of boulders.

  67. Who dat says we cant drop out in the 3rd grade.
    Who Dat says we are a flash in the plan.
    Who Dat says New Orleans smells like sewage.

  68. oh is that all you could say about what i commented on vox. insult me and my education. i guess that means you agree with what i say. people like you is why i hate the Cowboys and their fans. we WON the bowl and your team didnt. so get over it!

  69. You can bet Jones didn’t personally call the restaurant to reserve the wine. Since Payton used to work for the Cowboys, it’s pretty obvious the whole thing was done in good humor. And I’m absolutely certain that after Jones read Payton’s note–and had a good laugh–the restaurant either produced another bottle of that wine or an even finer wine, no doubt comped, for Mr. Jones’s party.
    This tells me the two men have a good relationship, and the only motivation this might provide is for Jones to play a comparable prank on Payton when the opportunity presents itself.

  70. @Vox
    What have the Cowboys done lately???? You can win the argument about the Cowboys of the 90’s vs. the disappointment of Mora & Ditka’s teams. But in case you forgot, we’re in the year 2010. The Saints have appeared in the NFC Championship twice in the last 4 years and has a SB trophy to show for it. All the Cowboys have done is finally winning a game in the postseason after a 15 year drought. You can make all your insults you want, but the fact of the matter is that the Cowboys don’t have enough talent to get them to the Super Bowl, let alone the NFC Championship, compared to the Saints.
    The Saints got their first Super Bowl ring and you constantly stress the championships the Cowboys got in the 70s & 90s. Who cares?!
    We’re focusing on TODAY, not the past. The Cowboys haven’t done shit during the 2000s and it’s obvious that you’re afraid to admit the Saints are the better team, at least on here for everyone to see.

  71. LMAO at phillyeaglechumps
    The Eagles will never win a Super Bowl any time soon.

  72. I love seeing Vikings fans tell us to “act like we’ve been there”.
    How the hell would you know, you’ve never been here before!
    As for the “story”, if it’s true it was a joke. Hardly classless.
    And are there seriously Cowgirl fans on here talking smack because of 1 regular season win by 7 points against a team decimated by injuries?
    Wow, win 1 playoff game in a decade and a half and all of a sudden you think you have a team.

  73. Guys, why bother trash talking to Vox Veritas?
    Vox says:
    “Because I can, dumbass. Got any more stupid questions?”
    Yeah, Vox, here’s one: Why do you think we’d ever believe that you have a wife? Or why do you believe that people respect you here?
    We can all Google “Vox Veritas” and see the fat, disgusting troll in the pictures on the first link Myspace page. Then, we laugh at you. Kind of like everyone who meets you in real life.

  74. # SonOfNOLA says: March 1, 2010 3:09 PM
    LMAO at phillyeaglechumps
    The Eagles will never win a Super Bowl any time soon.
    —————
    He’s a non-Eagles fan troll, Son. He keeps saying Vick is going to lead the birds to the Superbowl.
    Believe me, ESPECIALLY with Julio Borgon aka Vox Veritas spewing all over this board… there isn’t an Eagles fan on PFT who’s not supporting Sean Payton getting one over on Jerry Jones.
    I bet Jerry laughed at it. For as much as I dislike him, the guy’s obviously got the heart of a fan.

  75. at .Vox:
    Was that Canadian english you were referring to? You know, the kind that is covered in GOLD?

  76. From the NFL.com chat….Florio just doesn’t understand fun among friends since he doesn’t have any.
    With your recent dinner prank on Jerry Jones, could this turn into a rivalry and how comfortable do you feel going into Dallas next season, hopefully to make a statement?
    Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints
    Jamar, any time you play the Cowboys you know you are in for a challenge. I think the uniqueness the other night is that I have a great relationship with Jerry Jones. The three years I spent there as an assistant gave me great memories. I have great respect for Jerry and the entire family and the entire organization, and I am very close to them.
    I was at the Dallas dinner Saturday — stopped by at the end of their dinner, and we had some good laughs. Jerry and I chatted, and we had the empty wine bottle right next to us. Jery was going to bring it back to Dallas with him as a keepsake, but it accidentally broke that night at the restaurant!

  77. Again, any fan of a team that has not won a Super Bowl in the past 10 years needs to just can it.
    Despite having more overall Lombardis than than the Saints, the Cowboys are the inferior team RIGHT NOW. They haven’t won a meaningful playoff game since 1996 (beating the crappy Eagles doesnt count). Their chances of winning another Super Bowl any time soon are slim, at best. Until they do, they are clearly in the middle / bottom rungs of the NFL ladder.
    Come back and talk to me when the Cowboys actually GET to a Super Bowl again, let alone win it. Until then, teams that have HAD success in recent years, like the Saints, and the Steelers, own you.

  78. from Sean Payton’s NFL.com chat today
    Jamar, Anchorage, Alaska
    4:06 PM ET
    I was born and raised a die hard Saints fan, but the same goes to my brother-in-law with Dallas. Needless to say, that loss to the Cowboys crushed me, especially when I hosted a house full of Dallas fans for bragging rights. After the beat down we handed them in 08′ I was sure you had their number. With your recent dinner prank on Jerry Jones, could this turn into a rivalry and how comfortable do you feel going into Dallas next season, hopefully to make a statement?
    Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints
    Jamar, any time you play the Cowboys you know you are in for a challenge. I think the uniqueness the other night is that I have a great relationship with Jerry Jones. The three years I spent there as an assistant gave me great memories. I have great respect for Jerry and the entire family and the entire organization, and I am very close to them.
    I was at the Dallas dinner Saturday — stopped by at the end of their dinner, and we had some good laughs. Jerry and I chatted, and we had the empty wine bottle right next to us. Jery was going to bring it back to Dallas with him as a keepsake, but it accidentally broke that night at the restaurant!

  79. He’s a non-Eagles fan troll, Son. He keeps saying Vick is going to lead the birds to the Superbowl.
    Vick the Muslim is going to lead the Eagles to the SB.
    Eagles vs Colts

  80. If McNabb can’t win a SB with the Eagles, what makes you think Vick can? The entire city hates him but yet thinks he can lead the team to a Super Bowl. The Eagles have NEVER won a Super Bowl and won’t as long as they have their current crop of Quarterbacks. Andy Reid’s offense is very predictable. 75% of the time they pass will. Without an efficient running game and minus Westbrook, they won’t even get to the postseason and everyone will blame McNabb as usual.

  81. “oh is that all you could say about what i commented on vox. insult me and my education. i guess that means you agree with what i say.”
    I don’t blame you for thinking that way. You can’t help your upbringing.

  82. “I am so glad your happy about your win against the Saints this year Vox. Its really nice to win against a team that is injured.”
    Want some cheese with that whine? The Cowboys were missing Marc Colombo and Ware was coming off an injury along with assorted other crap so don’t think that the Aints exist in a vacuum.

  83. “You’re making yourself look like an ass by constantly going on and on about how much the Cowboys beat the Saints in the regular season and how the score wasn’t as close as indicated.”
    Constantly going on? One post is “constantly going on”? Wait, you can count, right?

  84. “We can all Google “Vox Veritas” ”
    We can also go to
    http://profiles.yahoo.com/ocelot138
    and find out how you like to spend your spare time.
    To wit:
    INTERESTS
    * Interests: I like to hook up with other chubby buds to have some wine and watch the eagles and sixers and maybe have some fun
    * Favorite Music: lady gaga, madonna, erasure
    * Favorite Movies: philadelphia, the bird cage

  85. “Cling to the past like you cling to your Cowgirls blanket. ”
    OK. Cling to floating feces the next time a hurricane destroys that filthyy, corrupt town that exists below sea level and surrounded by water. Wait, you did that last time!

  86. “Guys, why bother trash talking to Vox Veritas? ”
    Typical. Ask this question then go on to respond to me.
    The answer is that people talk trash to me because that’s what I want them to do. I mean, isn’t it obvious? All you do anymore is talk trash talk to me.
    Get it straight, lowbrow… I play the tune and demand that you dance to it, and you never fail me.
    I own your soul.

  87. “What have the Cowboys done lately????”
    Beat the crap out of the Aints. In New Orleans.

  88. “The Saints got their first Super Bowl ring and you constantly stress the championships the Cowboys got in the 70s & 90s. Who cares?!
    We’re focusing on TODAY, not the past.”
    The “past” is everything from one nanosecond ago and beyond. The Aints WERE Champs of the 2009 season. TODAY, it’s 2010.
    You’re welcome.

  89. “Was that Canadian english you were referring to? You know, the kind that is covered in GOLD?”
    No, I’m talking about the stuff that your queen across the ocean speaks, surrender bunny. Now bow to your queen.

  90. “Again, any fan of a team that has not won a Super Bowl in the past 10 years needs to just can it.”
    Right, because everybody knows that the NFL started only 10 years ago. How about this. Any fan of any team that has been busted and officially sanctioned for cheating needs to just can it.
    “Come back and talk to me when the Cowboys actually GET to a Super Bowl again, let alone win it. Until then, teams that have HAD success in recent years, like the Saints, and the Steelers, own you.”
    Uhhh the Steelers aren’t even the second best team in their own weak division. Thank God for the Browns, eh?

  91. First off saints were a fuke and will go another 50 years before they get lucky again.
    Second JJ can and and willl get even at the game.
    Lastly phillyeagleschamps of what choking ??????

  92. @.Vox …
    I didn’t agree with SixBurgh6’s comment, but that was a weak response. The AFC North had both teams in the AFC Championship for the 08 season and won the Super Bowl. In 09, the division put two teams in the playoffs and the Steelers had the same record as both AFC wild card teams but lost the playoff opportunity on mathematics. We had an off year, but the North not a weak division.
    As for the cheating thing, that’s just silly. When the cap was first imposed in the late ’90s, we had a contractual arrangement that a bonus would kick in for one player under certain circumstances, and when that happened, it took us over the cap, and we got a fine. Whoop-de-do. For you to keep bringing up that minor infraction is goofy.

  93. “As for the cheating thing, that’s just silly. When the cap was first imposed in the late ’90s, we had a contractual arrangement that a bonus would kick in for one player under certain circumstances, and when that happened, it took us over the cap, and we got a fine.”
    1994 was the first capped season. Wolford didn’t sign with the Steelers until the 1996 season. Regardless, by rule all compensation must be included in the player contract and that rule extends beyond the salary cap era. The 49ers got in trouble in the late 80’s for giving players extra-contractual bonuses, too. This is the issue with Wolford’s contract. There was compensation promised that was not included in his contract. His agent at the time said that he didn’t even know about the bonus and I believe that it was made public because Wolford was never paid the extra money that he was promised and he wanted it. Very similar to the 49ers, Brent Jones was promised money outside of his contract that he never got and went looking for it after he retired. It wasn’t a “minor infraction”, it was an effort to circumvent the salary cap. It cost them a third round draft pick and over a half a million bucks in fines and compensation for Wolford and that compensation counted against the Steelers’ salary cap years after Wolford actually retired.

  94. Vox: It’s 2010. The Saints are the Super Bowl champs. Until the Cowboys win a Super Bowl again, the current team is inferior to both the Steelers and the Saints by definition, as these teams have *won* Super Bowls recently. Ben Roethlisberger has 2 rings. Drew Brees has 1 ring. Tony Romo has 0 rings. Until he gets one, he has not achieved success in the NFL.
    You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t make fun of teams like the Eagles for failing to win a Super Bowl despite consistent playoff success, and THEN claim to be happy for the Cowboy’s success in winning the division *despite* failing to win a Super Bowl this year. If a team doesn’t win a Super Bowl in a given year, it is a FAILURE. The Cowboys failed in 2009, and the Saints succeeded.
    Whether or not the Cowboys succeed in 2010 remains to be seen, but I would bet alot of money on the fact that Tony Romo will choke away another postseason game, and you guys will walk away with merely another division title at best, while another, superior team celebrates a Super Bowl victory.

  95. Okay, Vox, bad Steelers! I’m grinning as I type because it’s so hard for me to reconcile that event with the personality of the team. They’ve never exactly been known for offering people extra money–especially in the mid-90s. Honestly, I’ve always thought someone screwed up in promising Wolford that extra compensation, and that’s why it wasn’t in the contract and that’s why they didn’t want to pay it … because one hand didn’t know what the other was doing. And if that hand did know, it would have slapped the other and said, “Are you nuts? We don’t do that here!”
    At any rate, it’s an old episode, and as you’ve noted the Steelers paid dearly for it. I get why you bring it up, but you’re over the heads of most of the people you’re ragging. It just seems silly.

  96. SixBurgh6 says: “Tony Romo has 0 rings. Until he gets one, he has not achieved success in the NFL.”
    So are you implying that any QB in the NFL who never won a Super Bowl didn’t achieve success? I guess Hall of Fame QB Dan Marino’s 17 year career was a complete failure then… also, Warren Moon’s.

  97. @ Vox
    Wow, a Katrina comment. You’re so irreverent. Your the bad boy of the PFT comment section. I haven’t heard anyone go there before.
    Seriously, dude. Fail.

  98. “Vox: It’s 2010. The Saints are the Super Bowl champs.”
    They were the Super Bowl champs. The champs of the 2009 season.
    “Until the Cowboys win a Super Bowl again, the current team is inferior to both the Steelers”
    Why bring the Steelers into it? They didn’t even make the playoffs last year.
    “You can’t have your cake and eat it too.”
    Why not? Why would I have cake that I can’t eat?
    “You can’t make fun of teams like the Eagles for failing to win a Super Bowl despite consistent playoff success”
    Um, the 0-3gles are 19-19 in the playoffs. Consistent playoff success?
    “and THEN claim to be happy for the Cowboy’s success in winning the division *despite* failing to win a Super Bowl this year.”
    Yes I can. I do it all the time. The Cowboys won the division and the 0-3gles didn’t. There’s no question as to which team is better. The Cowboys proved it in not one, not two but THREE games, the last of which was a playoff game.
    “If a team doesn’t win a Super Bowl in a given year, it is a FAILURE.”
    So you’re saying that the Steelers are failures? Don’t get me wrong, I believe that the Super Bowl winner is by definition the best team in the NFL over a given season, but it’s always about the previous season. Not the future or current season. See, the Aints and Steelers and eight other teams have been the best team in the NFL more recently than the Cowboys. But that’s it. The 0-3gles have never been the best team of any given season in the modern era. Do you see the difference?
    As for this coming season, everybody’s 0-0. Super Bowl wins guarantee NOTHING for the future, as your Steelers found out in ’09.
    By the way, 6 championships in 77 years is one championship for every 12.8 years. The Aints have one for every 43 years. The Cowboys have won one for every 10 years. Don’t let it eat you up.

  99. “I get why you bring it up, but you’re over the heads of most of the people you’re ragging. It just seems silly.”
    In all honesty Deb, all I wanna do on PFT is be silly and get over people’s heads. You’re a smart girl, you already knew that, didn’t you? I think it’s hilarious. People are trying to stalk me and stuff! I got people Googling me and telling others to Google me, too! As if I’m dumb enough to be THIS annoying and THIS abrasive while leaving a trail of how these maladjusted Google fools can track me down. Frankly, I’m insulted. It’s the only thing regarding anything that’s ever been said or implied on PFT that has genuinely left me feeling insulted.
    I keep telling people to just ignore me and I’ll go away. And I will. But PFT can’t ignore me. I find that funny as hell. But you know what? I like you, Deb. I agree with you way more than I disagree. Don’t get upset if I say something that you don’t like, particularly when it comes to the Steelers. I’m just pushing buttons and pulling strings. That’s it. You’ll know it when I’m doing otherwise. Go ahead and say what you want about the Cowboys or me, won’t offend me and I’ll be more than happy to go back and forth with you. Just please don’t take it to heart. Your nature seems very kind and I don’t want to hurt your feelings in any way. PFT is meant for entertainment purposes only and I’m just having fun with it. I’m laughing right now because even though I’ve laid it all out for you like this it’s not going to make a difference with the lowbrows. Now I want you to imagine me wringing my hands in anticipation and laughing an extremely evil laugh as I peer from behind my monocle and say: I’ll still get what I want out of those lowbrows and they’ll give it to me whether they want to or not.
    Your friend,
    Not Julio Borgon

  100. Vox is the typical Cowboy fan. He is a complete ass clown. He’s probably never even seen the Cowboys win a Super Bowl, hell he probably wasn’t even alive then. He’s probably some 14 year old kid making cum stains under mommy and daddy’s computer desk. Worse case scenario is he’s some 43 year old man making cum stains under mommy and daddy’s computer desk. It was obviously painful to see your team lose, again, and to see the Saints bring home the Lombardi. Probably reminds you of when daddy raped you. Do you need therapy Vox?

  101. .VoxVeritas says:
    March 1, 2010 5:44 PM
    I own your soul.
    —————
    You sure own me, Julio. That’s why you created a fake profile for me.
    The difference between you and me? I’m not going to get all bent out of shape and threaten to sue you for posting that link – because I know it’s fake, and I don’t care what people on PFT think of me.
    Why did you threaten to sue ME? Because I’m in your head. You realize deep down that you’re an aging, fat slob with a lame mullet and crappy mustache. No amount of trolling or acting cool on PFT will change that.

  102. “OK. Cling to floating feces the next time a hurricane destroys that filthyy, corrupt town that exists below sea level and surrounded by water. Wait, you did that last time!”
    Vox, your really a sad person to make fun of what happened with Katrina. That just proves my point about you. you just make me want to puke with that comment. that is so uncalled for but look at the source it came from. A cocky arrogant selfish Texan.
    “I own your soul.”
    you dont own shit Vox! Heck you dont even have a soul with the crap your talking. take your arrogant Cowboys and shove them up your ass!! you just wished you had Drew Brees as your quarterback!
    GEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXX SAINTS!!
    SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS XLIV
    WHO DAT….. DAT’S WHO!!!
    last comment from me. your not worth wasting my time!

  103. Vox: So basically, if you’re saying that nothing from the 2009 season matters in regards to team superiority – i.e. you argue that the 2010 season is now, and the Saints Super Bowl victory is meaningless – then surely the Cowboys and 0-3agles are on the same footing then?
    This is why you can’t have your cake and eat it too – because if you eat it, it’s no longer there in front of you and you can’t “have it”.
    Similarly, you need to make up your mind as to whether the past matters or not. The Saints won the Super Bowl most recently, and thus are more successful than the Cowboys. The Cowboys beat the Eagles 3 times, and thus are a better team than the Eagles. All this changes in 2010, of course, but RIGHT NOW, in the offseason, the Saints are the best team, and the Cowboys are chokers. Also, 2010 could easily see a 7-9 or 4-12 Cowboys team too.

  104. All I know is Sean Payton drank Jerry Jone’s wine.
    And that means Payton rules the Jone’s right now!!

  105. SixBurgh6 says:
    “Again, any fan of a team that has not won a Super Bowl in the past 10 years needs to just can it.”
    Did you feel that way before SB 40, when your own drought was approaching 30 years? Not likely.
    “Their chances of winning another Super Bowl any time soon are slim, at best. Until they do, they are clearly in the middle / bottom rungs of the NFL ladder.”
    You do realize that the Cowboys have had 5 straight winning seasons and won the division 2 out of the last 3 seasons, right? That isn’t the most impressive record in the league but it is certainly enough for any rational observer to not place a team “clearly” in the middle/bottom rungs. Unless, of course, that team is the Cowboys, in which case all common sense disappears from this board. Not that there is a lot in the first place.

  106. @ Vox Veritas
    The Katrina comment was way out of line, but you made it to elicit a reaction, so I won’t really dwell on it.
    Also, if you are demented enough to believe that you are on here to manipulate the behavior of individuals on an internet message board, what does that say about your life and how you spend your time? Furthermore, if you believe you somehow control the actions of these people, then what does that say about Florio’s ability to impose his will upon you? You take the bait for every post that bashes the Cowboys, expresses a political point of view, or criticizes a way of life you associate with. With a passing glance of this website, a visitor can find evidence that you spend inordinate sums of time on here, posting about topics such as abortion late on a Saturday night. It’s more than pathetic. You even went to the length of creating an imaginary wife, so as to justify why you were posting on here about some mundane topic, instead of going out on Valentine’s Day. You feel the need to make excuses for time spent here.
    Picture this: What would happen if Florio pulled the plug on this site tomorrow? How much time would that free up from your day? That’s power. A former lawyer whom you’ve never met and often disagree with wields the power to substantially change the activities of your daily life.

  107. Hordak: Before SB 40? Why does that matter NOW, when the Steelers have won not only SB 40 but also SB 43?
    I know you Cowgirls fans like to live in the past, but I mean, come on, that’s just ridiculous.
    The fact of the matter is that the Steelers DID end their SB drought, and ended it in a big way by becoming a 2000s dynasty. The Cowboys haven’t done jack shit since the Clinton administration except piss away alot of talent, and until they something noteworthy except beat a crappy NFC East rival and then get blown out of the water in the divisional round, they remain a barely above average team. The Arizona Cardinals had the exact same level of success that the Cowboys had last year in terms of playoff games, for the record. And this was probably the best year, success-wise, for the Cowboys since 1996. So, yeah, not that impressive, guys.
    So, until you guys actually END that SB drought like the Steelers did, please shut up and know your role in the modern-day NFL: NOT among the elite.

  108. “I know you Cowgirls fans like to live in the past, but I mean, come on, that’s just ridiculous”
    And yet, you continue to mention the Clinton Administration. Last I checked, that’s the PAST.

  109. # toe-to-toe bird law says: March 2, 2010 1:26 PM
    Good response.
    Vox’s last post was seriously Sociopathic.

  110. Peoples Champ: So would you rather I talk about recent history then?
    2006: Tony Romo, Botched Snap, ‘Nuff Said.
    2007: One-and-done to Giants you beat twice in regular season
    2008: 44-6 to Eagles with playoffs on the line
    2009: Blown out by Minnesota in the divisional round.
    I mention the Clinton Administration because that’s the last decent Cowboys team you guys had with any kind of real playoff success.

  111. @ SixBurgh6
    LOL Still tryna cover your tracks. I know it’s hard for you being blindly biased and all. “Recent history” is STILL the PAST, loser. Your wann talk about Cowboy fans living in the past but your hypocracy is unmatched. Everything you just mentioned happened, wait for it…………IN THE PAST. But hey, by all means, do you. I have nothing against your Steelers but history shows they have had a longer period of mediocrity than the Cowboys. i.e droughts between titles. (Just a page out of your book lol) It also shows that your Steelers had a mediocre season this past year and the Cowboys’ went longer than theirs. Right NOW, in my opinion, ‘Cowboys have more to look forward to than the Steelers in the 2010. (Cue the, “Well if Romo doesn’t choke away late season games” crap) lol

  112. I will be glad when next season is here and the people of Dallas can get a mouth full of what everybody else got.
    If you think that the Saints ‘lost’ that game because Dallas is better, then we can all assume that Dallas should have been in the Super Bowl… not!

  113. Awwwwhhhhhh poor cowboys fans cannot take a joke. hey you beat the saints but they won the ring. hummmm. I know which I rather have. Payton that was a very funny joke

  114. I think behind the scenes most of these guys are good friends. (case in point – Reid and Childress fish together.) I think fans and reporters take this stuff far more seriously than do the participants. If it really happened this way, and Payton and Jones are friends, Jerry probably laughed at it.

  115. who cares about the Saints, they were lucky to have Minnesota give them the game to go to the Superbowl, next year they are 9-7
    Payton is having fun with his 15 minutes of fame, in a couple years he will be a coordinator some where? who dat care ?

  116. I hate the cowgurls, their fans, their toupe wearing owner, that stadium, and pretty much the whole state of tejas. I wish the mexicans had won the alamo.
    Dallass sucks and so does vox.

  117. Everyone in this country knows the Saints will be successful and become a dynasty for years to come, but since the fact that Florio reports stories such as these about Sean Payton to make him seem like he’s an arrogant, cocky SOB makes people want to see the Saints fail and say they’ll be 9-7 or 8-8. I mean, why would a team with that much talent and young go downhill? What has the Saints ever done to anyone, but win? I know this is an unjust world and nothing can be fallible from hate, but the insulting and idiotic comments on here pretaining to the Saints are pointless and childish.

  118. Vox,
    You are a huge tool that only wishes they had Sean Payton and Drew Brees and their HC and QB. Two guys that will probably end up in the Hall of Fame one day, instead of some choke artist qb (botched snapped, countless playoff loses) and a dumb redneck for a coach. You got incredibly lucky this year in the Superdome, when our two starting cornerbacks, Tracy Porter (SB hero), and Jabari Greer (2nd only to Revis in passes defended), and our starting TE Jeremy Shockey (15-0 while in the lineup) were all out with injuries. Not to mention we were 13-0 and on cruise control, while your pathetic team was fighting for their playoff lives. Keep trolling in your mother’s basement, while we will enjoy a whole year as SB Champions. Oh yeah, Saints SB was most watched television show in history, so you can say hello to the new “America’s Team”. In fact, you can have America. We are the World’s Team!!
    -Im out

  119. I love how everyone gets upset over something so dumb.. Who cares do you think Jerry Jones was that upset over some wine? The dude probably has the same bottle in his limo. I am sure it was just being playfull and the Cowboys have nothing to be upset about! But, then again I think both teams will get thier feelings hurt this season..

  120. “Everyone in this country knows the Saints will be successful and become a dynasty for years to come”
    LOL, right! Dynasty maybe everyone in N.O. knows that, the rest of the country knows better, 9-7 if their lucky, like they were this year! enjoy it now, its the last one you will see for a long time!

  121. I’m a diehard Vikings fan, but I love Sean Payton and wish he was the coach of my team. Does anyone question that he is a way better offensive mind than Chilly?? The way he called that Super bowl ought to be a template for all NFL coaches. P.S. anyone downing Saint’s fans for katrina is classless.

  122. Gay-duck:
    “the rest of the country know better, 9-7 if their lucky, like they were this year!”
    We were 13-3 jackass. And even if we were 9-7, we still beat the cowgirls and reck shop in the playoff on our way back to the bowl in Dallas. Keep hating losers. What was the Vikings score again 37-3 or something like that? Reality check: Everyone outside of Dallas thinks your team’s a joke.
    Sign, your present day Super Bowl Champions.

  123. “Rect shop in the playoffs” yes, really blew the Vikings away? the Vikes gave NO the game, you hardly had 200 yds of offense!

  124. Gay-duck:
    Who won the game? Barely or not means nothing. Your argument is pretty weak my friend. Saints were the last team standing no matter how it happened. The Vikings didn’t execute down the stretch and it cost them. I’m just really happy it pisses you off this much, hahaha.

  125. NOwewillnotrepeat: I’m glad your happy, enjoy it until next season starts when your overated team ends up 9-7
    hope things work out for you!

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