McNabb mess only gets messier

With the Raiders and the Bills believed to be exploring the possibility of trading for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, there’s suddenly a catch.

McNabb told coach Andy Reid on Thursday that McNabb prefers staying in Philly to playing for Oakland or Buffalo, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

Of course, McNabb ultimately doesn’t have any say in whether he’s traded.  But it’s one thing for the Raiders to trade for defensive end Richard Seymour when Seymour didn’t want to be a Raider; it’s quite another to make a trade for a reluctant quarterback.

That said, ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio points out that the Eagles might have no choice but to move McNabb.  Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third-round draft pick.

But, per Paolantonio, the Eagles have concluded that a decision must be made soon.  If the situation lingers, it will be impossible for McNabb to return as the starter in 2010.

135 responses to “McNabb mess only gets messier

  1. could you picture him going to the bills and playing with T.O again haha i kinda feel bad for mcnabb and i’ll be sad to see him leaving philly

  2. Didn’t Philly go through this situation a few years ago with someone that was a disease to the locker room and organization? I want to say it was some receiver named Owens or something. I think he was referred to as TO…

  3. Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third-round draft pick.
    __________
    That’s beyond dumb.

  4. An hour and a half between this and the last McNabb update? Unacceptable. You probably missed a plethora of McNabb-related activity in that time.

  5. you wont see any movements until draft day.
    i dont know why i even pay attention to the NFL until post draft. Theres so much BS that gets thrown around.
    Teams do all sorts of things that no one expects.
    Every mock draft is worthless
    No writer can ever predict what the EAGLES do
    tell SalPal Vermeil is finished he can get off his knees

  6. The toothpaste is out of the tube. There’s no putting it back in. If he gets his wish to stay in Philly this year what do the Eagles get next year! Nothing more then another choke job and Donny riding off into the sunset with another big fat contract from the team of his choice and his choice won’t be philly!

  7. this is pretty sad. Thanks for the post Mike, keep them coming! cause im watching. but Reid is almost at a stand still himself because I believe he may want to trade McNabb to silence the accusations that he doesn’t care about what the fans or city think.. he is trying to move on but would u almost take nothing for McNabb in a trade? Thats disrespectful to the best QB of our franchise. I hope we get great compensation or fair.

  8. Eagles are really blowing it, everyonre is aware this will be his last season in Philly. At this point they will be lucky to get just a 2nd.

  9. hahaha, this is all mumble jumble
    he’s not going anywhere
    somebody somewhere in charge said “hey Vick is still an Eagle, Roethlisberger hasn’t been charged yet, TO hasn’t been talking, so F it, lets make up rumors about McNabb”

  10. It’s interesting that McNabb didn’t mention the Rams in his list of teams that he didnt want traded to….

  11. Ah, Sal Pal. Basically take everything he says and assume the opposite is true.
    The notion of trading a franchise quarterback in the prime of his career for a third round pick (that the Eagles would receive as compensatory anyway if McNabb left) is ludicrous beyond belief. And Brandon Marshall is supposed to go for a first rounder?
    Can I trade Sal Palantonio and a pack of wet cigarettes for a cup of coffee? OK, I’ll add a dollar to the trade.

  12. Send him to the Panthers. I think we have one draft pick left and it may be a third-rounder

  13. Won’t be a popular opinion, but after everything he’s done for the Eagles, I would hope McNabb would have some say in his future.

  14. He is no longer an elite quarterback and is not good enough to pick who he wants to play for. I never considered him an elite qb. He was good when he ran and once he decided to not be a running qb half of his skill set was lost.
    Sign him to a new deal that either Oakland or Buffalo will agree to then trade him to whichever team offers the most. He would then be under contract and obligated to play for the team that holds his contract.

  15. Someone is going to pick him up. There are too many teams that need immediate help at the QB position. He can also provide guidance for one of these incoming QBs. However I do agree with a lot of you guys. He chokes in pressure situations.

  16. An organization that turns down the kinda draft picks they were reportedly offered for a 30 something qb that maybe only has 2 good years left and they have the heir apperent growing restless and more then ready to take over the reins; and now know why Philly fans are so hostile towards the home team

  17. Please come to washington…Oh, thats right we got Rex the Hex instead. What the F!!!!!!

  18. The Bills and Raiders are still in the NFL? Why don’t they consolidate the two teams, and develop a team for LA? No one would miss them, and if they want to watch the good ol days, tune in to NFLN. 🙂

  19. ummm the teams are only willing to give up a 3rd round pick for McNabb`????
    loool wait until week 1
    STL
    ARI
    BUF
    CLE
    NYJ
    KC
    OAK
    SF
    DEN
    MIN

    will be willing to pay a 1st
    i reallyt hink that Arizona or Minnesota would be a perfect fit.

  20. No one in the NFL wants “the greatest QB in the history of the city and a top 5 QB in the league”.
    Not one.
    You can’t even get a Matt McCoy level pick for him.
    What a waste. Reid watched “Wall Street” 3 times in a row and started thinking he was a mogul who could command the market.
    He has failed miserably on this one, and looks like a fool.

  21. Time for Brett Favre to step forward and announce his retirement (again). Then Donny could go to the team of his choice and everyone would be happy.

  22. Doesn’t make sense to trade him for a 3rd. I would think they’d get a 3rd round compensatory pick after McNabb leaves anyway, so why trade him now for a 3rd when you’d get one regardless? I’d rather just give him another season. If they can get the right trade, then they should do it, but otherwise they should just hold onto him.

  23. Question…people say they wont believe McNabb is going to stay in Philly until Philly gives him an extension…Teams are saying nobody is willing to give a first rounder for Mac because they would want him signed to an extension that he won’t sign…So why wouldnt the eagles have signed him to an extension then traded him prior to all of this talk which would undoubtedly require McNabb to request a no trade clause to any extension offer at this point…What am I missing? Should have signed him to a 3-4 year extension with know no trade clause that the raiders/bills would have agreed to pay ahead of time….then shipped his ass off…yea its bad in the way of screwing someone who has gotten us to the playoffs year after year but its good business

  24. Wait… I thought the Eagles were getting the Rams pick #33 and Otogwe… or was it the Raiders #1 and Asomugha… no wait, it was 10 #1’s … I forgot the team… and and and…

  25. Wow, as far as cities go that is like having to choose between prostate cancer, rectum cancer and…..well, I guess herpes because Buffalo isn’t THAT bad, just inconvenient in a lot of ways.

  26. “If the situation lingers, it will be impossible for McNabb to return as the starter in 2010.”
    Well them, linger on. Let the Kolb era begin.

  27. @ rob
    “could you picture him going to the bills and playing with T.O again haha i kinda feel bad for mcnabb and i’ll be sad to see him leaving philly”
    T.O. no longer plays in Buffalo… but good analysis

  28. As an Eagles fan, I have been critical of McNabb myself and I would prefer to move on… IF we get fair value in return. Anything short of a 1st round pick for a Pro Bowl QB is not good enough. The Eagles brass appears to have screwed the pooch.

  29. You know your team sucks when a guy doesn’t would rather stay on a team that has a bunch of a-hole, unappreciative fans.

  30. Common Sense : you are correct, Seymour not wanting to be a raider is a lie but keep in mind, it was the media that created that lie so you you need to realize if the media says it then they cant be liars, lol. Great journalism there Profootballtalk!

  31. @common sense lolwhat? It was pretty obvious that seymour was upset about having to go play in Oakland. If he wanted to be there, he’d sign an extension.

  32. Thank you Jimmy, how could this even be possible? Listen, I know the guy has not played his best football in NFC championship games and people looove to recall that superbowl game he had, but this guy has seen EVERYTHING there is to be seen as an NFL QB.
    I haven’t gone back to add it up, but I’m set to believe that Donovan McNabb has played in more playoff games than any other QB in the NFL not named Peyton or Tom. And his record’s not bad, either. And personally, I think that Eli Manning is the only QB of the past 4 superbowl winners that had to go so far above and beyond his level of play to bring home a trophy. Big Ben played with 2 very complete Steelers’ teams. Peyton Manning is the only QB to win a superbowl while throwing more picks than TD’s in the postseason (his postseason QB rating that year was worse than Mr. Grossman). Brees played awesome once again, but it was the defense that elevated to the next level in the post-season, Drew didn’t add anything new.
    It shouldn’t be a concern to other NFL teams poised to start guys named Delhomme, Gradkowski, Moore, Rosenfels/Jackson (assuming no Favre), A. Smith, Orton, D. Anderson, even Cassel at this point.
    And speaking of which, Cassel cost a 2nd round pick, but people flipped because evidently a 1st rounder was on the table. And nobody will pay more than a 3rd round pick for McNabb?? Cassel’s 28 people, he wasn’t like Houston trading for Schaub, or even Chicago for Cutler, each of those guys was 3 years younger when traded for. McNabb is 34, but worth at least 3-4 more years in my opinion, and should have as high an asking price as Cassel.
    If I’m Carolina, Favre-less Minnesota, Arizona or Cleveland, I’d slap that 2nd round pick on the table in a heartbeat. Carolina and Cleveland still played decent football despite abysmal QB performance, and McNabb could get more mileage out of that panther tandem and Steve Smith than delhomme ever did.

  33. If I’m buffalo I got my #41 pick wrapped in a $5 footlong and I’m fedexing that directly to Andy Reid’s banded stomach

  34. Florio keeps forgetting this scenerio:
    McNabb is the week #1 starter for Philly, and team has until the 2010 trade DEADLINE to move him if they so choose.
    Worst case scenerio, he does 3yr deal and retires an Eagle.
    I think the only person wanting McNabb to move is Florio and the legion of idiot Philly fans that have bashed McNabb since day #1.
    Did Dan Marino receive this much hate?

  35. Favre is better then Mcnabb is. Minnesota would be better off waiting for Farve. I think they know what he’s going to do anyway. HE just doesn’t want to deal with training camp. He obviously didn’t need it last year.

  36. @ SomeGuyInIowa
    “The Bills and Raiders are still in the NFL? Why don’t they consolidate the two teams, and develop a team for LA? No one would miss them, and if they want to watch the good ol days, tune in to NFLN. :)”
    They should consolidate Iowa and Missouri and develop a new state, no one would miss them… P.S. cute smiley face at the end of a really intelligent post. :):):):)

  37. does it really matter? the beagles are going nowhere are they are as bad as the 4skins. LMAO.

  38. myeaglescantwin says: March 26, 2010 2:30 PM
    “you wont see any movements until draft day.”
    ================
    No team in their right mind is going to trade for McNabb unless he agrees to a long term contract before hand. That means that a deal has to be done before draft day, and the Eagles have to get what they feel is adequate compensation out of the deal. That type of deal can’t be struck on draft day, too many moving parts, and not enough time.
    This is a similar problem that the Chargers have if they intend on trading Sproles. Not only do they have to find a team that is willing to trade for him, they also have to find a team that Sproles is willing to sign a long term contract with, and at the same time give adequate compensation to the Chargers for Sproles.
    I am very surprised that Florio hasn’t brought up the Sproles situation more often. IMO, if the Chargers don’t trade Sproles, they are going to have a very tough time time re-signing some of those other players that they have tagged with a 1st and 3rd to long term deals. The Chargers are probably going to have to re-sign Gates next year.
    Having to pay Sproles 7.3 million dollars, if he signs that tender, to stay with the Chargers, IMO isn’t in the Chargers best interest.

  39. Seymour didn’t want to be a Patriot. I still can’t believe we kept Wilfork after he ran his mouth.
    Anyway, back to McNabb. A third round pick? That’s it? Insane.

  40. they waited too long to move him. Everyone called his bluff. Reid said he was happy having all 3 QBS demanded a first rounder and now he has a mess.

  41. this really is stupid. a third round pick for a proven franchise qb? doesnt make sense at all. no wonder he works for espn

  42. This is absurd. The Eagles don’t have to do anything. Not once have they said “McNabb is on the block and will not be our QB next year”. A 3rd round pick for a top 12 QB is insulting and if they can’t get anything better, they should hold on to him. Didn’t the Cowboys trade a 1st AND 3rd for Roy freaking Williams? Didn’t Charlie Whitehurst just get traded for a swap of 20 spots AND a 3rd rounder next year? If McNabb walks after next year, won’t the Eagles(barring a big FA signing) get a 3rd round compensatory pick anyway? He is under contract and I don’t see any reason the Eagles HAVE to trade McNabb. Just because everyone has ADD and the internet has created a 5-second news cycle doesn’t mean that anything HAS to happen. And if the Eagles feel forced to trade McNabb, it will only be because they want very badly to start Kolb instead next year.

  43. ESPN is reporting a “developing story” when Florio reported this over 20 hours ago!

  44. With each passing day, it becomes more likely that McNabb will get cut.
    Anybody who might want him, sees that McNabb’s days are numbered. Why give up anybody for someone is headed out the door?

  45. Wait, another update.
    Ben Roethlisberger got up this morning and promptly brushed his teeth. The possibility that this could be related to his alleged assault in GA has to be looked at although there has been no comment from the police in GA at this time. Yet.

  46. “Teams only offering a 3rd rounder for him.”
    I could have sworn someone on an earlier comments section said taht before Florio and Sal Pal did.
    Always the brides maid florio. And damn you are one ugly brides maid.

  47. Seymour said he never did not want to be a Raider. Of course you ignore that statement as an ignoramus would.
    Donovan could be perfectly happy in OAK. For all the FUD you throw around they sure seem to keep the players they want.

  48. What the heck he all ready mentioned he would like to go to the winning team VIKINGS

  49. This is why you don’t say sh*t until the deal goes down. That being said, I gotta love it. Eagles=losers yet again. Sweet! Eagle fans deserve this.

  50. Seymour never said that he didn’t want to be a Raider, more Florio lies and speculation

  51. Donovan McNabbs career would come to an end if he goes to the Raiders and Bills. Neither one of those teams have a wr like Desean Jackson.

  52. “# Common Sense says: March 26, 2010 2:27 PM
    “Seymour didn’t want to be a Raider” That’s a lie.”
    Please present your proof. None you say? Another mouthy Raider fan you say?! Mouths agape in shock the world over…..

  53. @ Rob.. TO is no longer a Buffalo Bill not sure if you have been paying attention to the NFL at all… and @ Florio..Sal Paolantonio is a dope and anything he says shouldn’t be taken too seriously

  54. “Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third-round draft pick.”
    ———————————————-
    Teams are being smart, because McNabb isn’t worth more than a 3rd rounder. Age and injury history are numbers that dont lie.

  55. I just renewed my season tickets for the Bills….. I would like a reason to actually go to the games, and this would be it!!
    Bills have 2 options to make fans happy:
    Trade for McNabb (They did this with Drew Bledsoe)
    or
    Trade up and get Tebow (They did this with JP Losman)
    Both options shut us up for a few days and give us false hope…
    -Annoyed

  56. It’s clear Seymour wanted to be a Patriot, but it has never once been reported that he “didn’t want to be a Raider.” In fact, quite the opposite.
    Florio, that was an outright lie.

  57. Can you really blame him for not wanting to play for the Raiders?
    That’s the corporate equivalent on being shipped to the Fargo branch office.
    Hopefully, he’ll find a winning team to play for….

  58. Oh, by all means. Dude gets you to the playoffs 8 times in 10 years, with FIVE Championship Game appearances, and 1 Super Bowl. Yeah, he sucks. Kolb will definitely do better…..idiots.

  59. As for McNabb, he’s an older, oft-injured QB and probably isn’t worth much more than a 3rd or 4th.

  60. Where ever he goes I just hope he suffers a career ending injury so I don’t have to read, or hear about him anymore. Such a crybaby who’s also watered down. Farve just f’n retire already. Tired of hearing about him too. There is no way in hell he’s coming to Oakland. Hopefully JR suffers a career ending injury as well so No one has to hear his name again, or see his fat ass in a uniform. Especially a raiders uniform. Well stick with Gradkowski, draft an under the radar QB in the draft to have Hue Jackson build him up like he did withJoe Flacco. Eventually well have our guy just please no D McScabb.

  61. The Eagles overvalue assets all the time: Trying to trade Winston Justice (prior to this season), Jerome McDougal, Hank Baskett. But hell, I am shocked that they received anyone in return for Lido Sheppard and Reggie Brown. Yet they undervalue the draft – trading a pick to Dallas so everyone sees how smart the Eagles are only to have Anthony Spencer in McNabb’s face all day two years later.
    I would fire Reid, Lurie, and Banner before McNabb. But as I keep saying, that will not happen, so McNabb has to go.

  62. Mcnabb will be an eagle until next year….no ones going to give up what the Eagles want.

  63. FACT:
    Eagles will NOT do any Trade Until at Least Next Week
    CSNPhilly.com
    Eagles fans, take the weekend off. Stop scouring the internet for the latest trade rumors regarding your quarterbacks.
    Why?
    Because a league source has informed CSN’s Derrick Gunn that no deal is expected to happen for at least the next three to four days.
    Eagles president Joe Banner is in Florida, and head coach Andy Reid is in Utah. Both are combining a little business with vacation.
    So sit back and enjoy the NCAA tournament (while constantly checking CSNPhilly.com, of course).

  64. Let’s re-cap.
    He’s a year younger than Manning and a year older than Brady.
    He’s started 44 out of a possible 48 games over the past three seasons.
    Has a career passer rating of 88.2.
    Has a career TD:INT ratio of 2:1.
    Has a career winning percentage of 64.8% as a starter (92-49-1).
    And he’s *only* worth a third rounder?
    ————————————
    There are at least 24 teams in the NFL that need to make that deal tomorrow.

  65. Actually, Fuschu Mang, the burden of proof is on the one making the assertion. It’s impossible to prove a negative. They only proof I can point you to is that it’s never been reported that he said anything like “I didn’t want to be with the Raiders.” Quite the contrary.
    If you think it’s true then why don’t you prove it? Find the link and post it.

  66. purpleman527 says:
    March 26, 2010 2:58 PM
    With each passing day, it becomes more likely that McNabb will get cut.
    Anybody who might want him, sees that McNabb’s days are numbered. Why give up anybody for someone is headed out the door?
    ————————————————–
    the absolute DUMBEST post i’ve ever read on this site, hands down
    purpleman – you are a moron

  67. So, in summary:
    The Eagles have publicly announced, numerous times, that he’s their starting quarterback;
    They’ve announced that they’ve made nobody offers to move him;
    McNabb himself has said, numerous times, that he wants to be an Eagle;
    Per all reports, nobody in the league is offering anything worthwhile to the team for him, their franchise quarterback with plenty of years left of great play, who has led them time and again to championship games, and division crowns, a proven thing, who is still actually getting better;
    and yet, still the story is they are going to trade him. Why, because people are checking your sites for news when there is none worth checking for?
    Because stories like “Cowboys keep Cory Proctor” just aren’t revenue producing enough to keep sites like this and others going?
    This is all utterly ridiculous at this point. They have no choice to trade him because they apparently couldn’t trade him when they didn’t want to. Right.
    When a coach says teams are making them offers for a player, it doesn’t mean their intent is to deal the player. If someone makes them an offer they can’t refuse, of course they’d think about it. Who wouldn’t with two other capable quarterbacks on the roster? Fact is, nobody outside the Eagles knows what the Eagles plan to do, ever.

  68. ESPN is reporting from Adam Schefter that Oakland will part with Asomugha for Mcnabb!! Eagles should jump all over this!!

  69. Rickah888-
    I’m not going to bash you as much as this recent tradition of judging a QB solely on his number of super bowl wins. it’s the trend – i get it.
    but this generation really needs to get off Dan Marino. he played with very few, mildly, well-rounded teams and he never had a running game. he had some decent receivers his first few years. after that our current corps is pretty much what he had all those years – minus the running game and minus the mediocre defense the fins have now.
    comparing Dmac to Dan Marino is ……. seriously man – you hurt my feelings.

  70. This is great. Where are all those coaches and managers who can’t say enough how great they think McNabb is? Here’s your chance. A QB, who if all your quotes are to be believed, was and is still a franchise caliber signal caller with a few years in him. And you can have him for a 2nd rounder. What a steal. So everybody must be lining up for this bargain? No? Thats odd.

  71. Eagle suck always will…… I hope McChoke plays this year for the Eagles so all of their white trash fans can have freakouts about a team that they do not play for nor does any player really care about them….. its only a game i love to watch eagles fans get annoyed because it only proves my point about what second class people the are …. Win a Superbowl already then come talk to all of the other fans on this site

  72. Franchise – his “worth” or “value” is what the highest bidder is willing to pay.
    Fact is, several teams with a need at QB settled on a solution while Reid wasted time posturing. Not only did he play his way out of a Vick deal, he now has severely diminished the pool of suitors for McNabb.
    And now, with Reid spinning and flailing, teams know he’s desperate. So that further weakens his hand.
    It’s a disaster.

  73. agreen182 don’t the raiders have to be offering a contract he wants to agree to? just curious. i didn’t think it was that one sided or cut and dry?

  74. Rams should trade their 2nd and 3rd for Philly’s 2nd and McNabb …. Then draft Suh

  75. Wait, another update.
    Ben Roethlisberger got up this morning and promptly brushed his teeth. The possibility that this could be related to his alleged assault in GA has to be looked at although there has been no comment from the police in GA at this time. Yet.
    ————————————————-
    Scratch that, his tooth brush has now made sexaul assault allegations against him

  76. If they can’t pull the trigger on a deal, will they owe McNabb a “financial apology”.
    Seriously, a hissy fit should be expected.

  77. Why don’t the Steelers and Eagles trade QBs? They’re both proven winners and would give each a fresh start.

  78. I would fire Reid, Lurie, and Banner before McNabb. But as I keep saying, that will not happen, so McNabb has to go
    Typical dumb ass cowgirl fan. How do you fire the owner? Finish grade school before trying to prove how witty you are.

  79. Let’s re-cap.
    He’s a year younger than Manning and a year older than Brady.
    He’s started 44 out of a possible 48 games over the past three seasons.
    Has a career passer rating of 88.2.
    Has a career TD:INT ratio of 2:1.
    Has a career winning percentage of 64.8% as a starter (92-49-1).
    And he’s *only* worth a third rounder?
    ———————————————
    Yes. Having trouble following along? He’s not what he once was, he chokes in big games, and he’s not getting any younger. He should have had at least one ring in this past decade and came up empty handed. People like to blame everyone and everything else but Mcnabb for it, but he is LARGELY to blame, as is Reid.
    I’m a Giants fan, so I hope he and Reid stick around for a long time, but I can also see, as a football fan, what the problems are on that team. McNabb and Reid. Lose one or both of them and you’ll see a parade down Broad St in February

  80. I was blogging last week that I think the Eagles waited to long and that McNabb, given the condition of the market and a deep draft lessens McNabb’s worth to a 3rd and maybe a lesser pick\comp pick based on performance in 2011.
    For all those that want a 2nd round pick, think about the qulaity of this draft where as many as 50 guys have 1st round grade, a high 2nd is a 1st round in value this year. Teams aren’t going to do that.
    Let history show you the parameters for this deal:
    http://blogs.nbcsports.com/system/mt-cp.cgi

  81. The Franchise says: March 26, 2010 3:39 PM
    Let’s re-cap.
    He’s a year younger than Manning and a year older than Brady.
    He’s started 44 out of a possible 48 games over the past three seasons.
    Has a career passer rating of 88.2.
    Has a career TD:INT ratio of 2:1.
    Has a career winning percentage of 64.8% as a starter (92-49-1).
    And he’s *only* worth a third rounder?
    There are at least 24 teams in the NFL that need to make that deal tomorrow.
    ______________________________________
    Yeah, but he smiles when we’re losing, he threw up in the Super Bowl (a few plays before throwing a 30-yard TD), we’re bored with him, and Kevin Kolb is Joe Montana, Jr.
    Signed,
    Idiot Eagle Fan

  82. @Fuschu Mang
    “Please present your proof. None you say? Another mouthy Raider fan you say?! Mouths agape in shock the world over…..”
    Show me the proof he didn’t want to be a Raider. Oh because PFT said so, yeah becasue everything they say is true, just ask Terry Bradshaw, wait he’s dead isn’t he?

  83. @AndyReidIsABadCoach
    “I would fire Reid, Lurie, and Banner before McNabb”???
    How does one fire the owner?

  84. I would welcome him in DC but for only a few years. He would be able to mentor a young QB and he is still a valuable play maker. He is undervalued in Philly and those terrible fans are awfully critical of a guy who took them to a super bowl just like Jaws did. I guess it is because he is black. Philly is a pretty racist city.

  85. While you fellow footballers have made good comments, you have failed to mention what most teams are considering most. His aging knees who have been repaired more than twice and he has had atleast one concussion if not two in the last 3 years.
    Now on to substantial implications, McNabb has been in a west coast set for all of his career and has problems with the reads…thats having receivers like Desean, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown. All receivers who produce after the catch, McNabb while having a big strong arm is not very accurate on the long ball, his pocket presence is not all that great either, it is his strength that keeps opposing defenders from bringing him down.
    McNabbs release is not exactly the best, it is more that he has had a big line to hold off the pressure to allow him to atleast get the ball out even if not accurately…if im not mistaken the O line has atleast five years together, with addition pro ball caliber draft picks For the Line in 06 and 07. So is it McNabb or that Line?
    Don’t get me wrong McNabb is a good QB, but I would not put him above Ron Jaworski or Randall Cunnigham to whom both won Championships with Philadephia and less Talented O Lines.

  86. DieHard
    You won stupidest post of the day. Congrats.
    This is such a racist city. Ask Randall Cunningham. Or Rodney Peete. Or Jeff Blake. Or Don McPherson. Or Allen Iverson. Or Ryan Howard. Or Jimmy Rollins.
    And yeah, we really undervalue him. We wanted a #2 and apparently no GM will give up more than a 3. Oh, wait…
    Get out of your gated community and learn about the places you claim to have knowledge of.

  87. DieHard
    You won stupidest post of the day. Congrats.
    This is such a racist city. Ask Randall Cunningham. Or Rodney Peete. Or Jeff Blake. Or Don McPherson. Or Allen Iverson. Or Ryan Howard. Or Jimmy Rollins.
    And yeah, we really undervalue him. We wanted a #2 and apparently no GM will give up more than a 3. Oh, wait…
    Get out of your gated community and learn about the places you claim to have knowledge of.

  88. The fact that NO team will give up anything other then a 3rd rounder for McNabb proves what the smart Philly fans have been saying for years now.
    McNabb is OVER RATED.
    As a liberal this pains me to say, Rush was right. But its the only time that has EVER happened

  89. @Jaydub
    “I’m a Giants fan, so I hope he and Reid stick around for a long time, but I can also see, as a football fan, what the problems are on that team. McNabb and Reid. Lose one or both of them and you’ll see a parade down Broad St in February”
    ___________________________________
    Didn’t McNabb and the Eagles own your beloved Giants last year?

  90. Die Hard…
    But I thank you, Mr. Racial Sensitivity.
    What is your team’s name again?

  91. last starfighter says:
    March 26, 2010 2:29 PM
    Reid needs to keep his mouth shut. He keeps sticking his foot in it
    By the looks of Andy Reid, I am guessing he is sticking something in his mouth more often than not. i.e. cheese steak,cheese fries, cheese burger.

  92. @AndyReidIsABadCoach
    Reid has defeated the Cowboys more than any coach in NFL history. I believe that McNabb was the starting QB for most if not all of those games, right?
    The Eagles are 16-9 against the Cowboys since Reid took over in 1999, with five seasonal sweeps – in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2006. Three of those five years the Eagles went on to the NFC Championship Game, and they went to the playoffs all five years.
    I would think that the people that most want to see McNabb go are the Cowboys. Maybe the Giants too as the Eagles consistently own them as well.
    I can almost hear it now, the collective “Well that’s all in the past” from the Cowboys fans.. which peculiarly comes right before the “We’ve got 5 rings” argument.
    The point is that McNabb is worth more than a 3rd. And while Andy Reid may be fat, he is not a bad coach.

  93. McNabb will be a Oakland Raider and the team will fix its Oline in the draft. Starting with OT at #8
    More help will come for McNabb when Al Davis finally gets his player in Terrell Owens.
    Age has never been a factor to the Raiders owner who Gets what he wants.. if he really wants it that bad.
    Highest Bidder wins.. aka. Al Davis.

  94. Bleed Green,
    Rush did in fact pick up on a weird fact – the national media had a strange love affair with McNabb.
    What he did wrong was misdiagnose why (as he usually does) – he thought it was because of race (because then it tied in with his radio clown act).
    In reality, the media’s affinity for McNabb was because of the pity they felt for “poor old Donovan” who was booed on draft day.
    McNabb lives off pity, he cultivates it in order to cover up for his shortcomings. That is why I have no doubt he is setting it all up to show how he was “wronged” by the Eagles organization and fans by being dealt.

  95. As a liberal this pains me to say, Rush was right. But its the only time that has EVER happened
    ————————————————————
    He said he was overrated because the , cough, “liberal media” wanted a black qb to look good. Whether or not McNabb is overrated is actually overrated is moot. He was wrong about the secret agenda and as usual was pushing his wimpy, played out, race baiting politics.

  96. To all the Non-football followers: T.O. is currently not a Buffalo Bill and WILL NOT be returning to Buffalo!! McNabb will be welcomed in B-lo!!

  97. Jaydub – are you really using McNabb’s name alongside Brady and Manning’s? Those dudes have some hardware to go along with multiple losing trips to the superbowl. McNabb’s gone once, performed poorly and doesn’t have much more than a decent QB rating to prop his career on. He’s an upgrade over JaMarcus Russell, but then again so is Bruce Gradkowski. I’m not saying McNabb’s not a very good QB, but he’s not in the Brady/Manning strata.
    I’d say, at McNabb’s age, with his record of success with teams built to “win now” that he’s worth no more than a 3rd or 4th rounder.

  98. I wasn’t going to comment on specific posts, but:
    @ Dolphinized: you sir, are just plain “dirt dumb.”
    @ Jaydub: you are only a tick higher on the food chain than dolphinized.
    _______________________________
    This is lunacy, but someone did post the obvious: this is the only type of post generating any eyeballs. So, to recap:
    “The floated rumors, then, were not just premature. They were ill-conceived.”
    _______________________________
    Take your opinion of DNabb out of the equation and look @ the situation logically. I know it’s tough for some of you.
    What would you give up for Philip Rivers? Then re-think what you’re reading re: offers for DNabb.
    ________________________________
    As for Florio and Gregg (w/3 G’s): “you two are a couple of boobies.”

  99. I don’t understand the over-rated stuff. He is a starting NFL QB. He’s probably going to be like Elway, once he gets a probowl RB, he’ll win a couple of Super bowls.
    McNabb’s only knock is he hasn’t won the big one. In the last 10 years only one team from the NFC East has won, and that was a Cinderella story.
    That being said they aren’t going to get value for McNabb, not before the draft.
    Either McNabb ends up with Vikings or the Eagles.
    If I’m McNabb I tell the Phili fans to sit on it! Why sign an extension with a team who is SB ready? Would you do it? No.
    Would you trade for player that only has one year on his contract? I wouldn’t do it.
    You want someone to blame? Blame the Eagles front office for not busting their ass to a pro-bowl chain mover. For letting Dawkins walk. For not getting their OL right. For not getting WRs, that make a difference. Blame the person calling the play, they pass the ball more than 60 percent of time.
    Honestly, if I’m a NFL defense, I’m going to let you complete passes all day all the while I’m jacking up your QB. Hard to make 16 games as QB gettting hit so much.
    If I’m the eagles. I want to win now. The Eagles have enought to win it all within 2 to 3 years with McNabb. With Kolb, I doubt they make the playoffs. With Vick, I see the Eagles loosing because he isn’t a true passer and Reid likes to pass. So where is the value? Eagles can’t move McNabb because of the contract, which I’m sorry sinks his value.

  100. Btw Andy Reid running a pass heavy O and McNab’s inaccuracy PHI was atrocious on the road last year. Maybe McNab will be ok in some run heavy O with dink and dunk passing where thinking and reading defenses are removed from the process.

  101. I wasn’t going to comment on specific posts, but:
    @ Dolphinized: you sir, are just plain “dirt dumb.”
    @ Jaydub: you are only a tick higher on the food chain than dolphinized.
    ———————————————-
    So what do you think is fair market value for McNabb, genius? A 1st round pick? Maybe a 2nd? If so, you are obviously alone in that land of idiocy, because look how many other teams are busting down the door to grab him up for the reported price that the Eagles are rumored to be looking for.
    How does it feel to be dumber than dirt dumb? The chain doesn’t even go that far down. Tell the person typing and reading this for you that you quit and have nothing further to add.

  102. The reason article like this are posted is to get people like Jaydub and Dolphinized to show how football ILLITERATE they really are. If the Eagles were going to trade Mcnabb not one person with media credentials would know about the deal until it was done.
    IF Mcnabb were going to be traded he would have the say so as to where he would be going because he still needs a new contract. Hell all he has to do is fall down in practice “hurt” himself and wait until the following year to play for the team he wants.
    To any and every “idiot” that has posted the words OVERRATED regarding this QB…. that’s like saying Larry Bird was good but if he was black he would be just an average player.

  103. rob says: March 26, 2010 2:29 PM
    “could you picture him going to the bills and playing with T.O again haha i kinda feel bad for mcnabb and i’ll be sad to see him leaving philly”
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    Except TO doesn’t play for Buffalo anymore…

  104. “IF Mcnabb were going to be traded he would have the say so as to where he would be going”
    ———————————————-
    And you have the balls to call someone else football illiterate? He goes to the team they trade him to because they own his rights. He may tell them where he wants to go, but they are under ZERO legal obligation to listen to him. This is a business, moron. They’re gonna send him to whoever offers the best deal for THEM, not for HIM. What he does after the trade is made is his business, but the Eagles dont have to confer with McNabb about where he’s going or who they’re talking to. They may, as a professional courtesy, tell him who they’re talking to(if anyone), but they dont have to. He doesn’t run the show, nor does he sign the paychecks.

  105. Vick has no value, they’ve botched any move of McNabb.
    Unless something logical happens by the time the draft is over, this is looking like the keystone cops.

  106. Jaydub you are right it is a business decision. And as a business decision if you want to get the most out of your investment pon a trade you would want the investment to be happy where it is going so that it will sign a new deal with the new team upon trading it.
    If these trade rumors are true one must realize that the reason for the offers being so low is not because Mcnabb is not an elite QB but, because a trade would only be for ONE YEAR unless IT IS SOMWEHERE HE WANTS TO BE AND WILL AGREE TO SIGN A CONTRACT EXTENSION.
    So with that so vividly pointed out to you:
    1st Why would a team trade their high 2nd round pick for a guy that is only going to be there for ONE YEAR?
    2nd Why would the Eagles trade their FRANCHISE QB for a 3rd round pick when they would get the same thing if they just let him walk after the season?
    Put your business cap on regardless of who has who’s rights Mcnabb still has more power than the front office on where he goes FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT. JACKA$$

  107. @ Jaydub says: “Tell the person typing and reading this for you that you quit and have nothing further to add.”
    I’ll tell her, but your Mom is kinda busy right now. hard to read out loud when her mouth is full.
    _______________________________
    @ Jaydub: onto your incorrect assumption that “all” they are receiving is 3rd round offers. 1st as someone has already pointed out, that would be the least they receive if he leaves. It’s called a compensatory pick. As for his value – that would be whatever someone is willing to pony up and the Eagles would accept.
    As I mentioned before, in another post, use a little common sense. Charlie Whitehurst was good enough for a 3rd, hell Delhomme was out of work for what….a week? You’ve got to take emotion out of it, but obviously you can’t.
    My opinion, is all this is doing is driving up the market/value for Vick and Kolb. You don’t trade a 33 year old All Pro qb for a 3rd round pick. Oakland isn’t trading their best player and the Rams aren’t trading their best defender either + a 2nd rounder, etc.
    I’m almost sorry about the Mom comment, but I doubt you’ll get it…

  108. Of course Florio’s to biggest sources in Philly are the two biggest Jack Asses in the city Sal Pal and Eskin.
    Saying that their is no way he goes for a 3.
    Teams like the Raiders or Bills have to realize that they really have 3 years to get the team good enough for Mcnabb to want to stay. Hes under contract for this year then the team can franchise him the next 2 years.
    That is plenty of time for a team to get good enough to compete. Any team in the league even the Eagles dont expect Mcnabb to play for more then 4 more years anyway. So trading a 1st or 2nd round pick to get a franchise qb for 3 years is a pretty good deal. And like I said if the team is able to get good enough to compete in that time Im sure Mcnabb would sign a contract with the team. They might not even have to franchise him if they have a good season in 2010.
    Honestly I think the Raiders have a good enough team right now that all they need is a qb to get back in the playoffs. So the only real problem is if a team is willing to pay the money it would take to franchise him. But come on Mcnabb is going to want that much money regardless . So any team that trades for him will have to pay him as much as a franchise tag would cost anyway.
    So I dont think it matters if Mcnabb wants to go somewhere or not. He is not the kind of person to give up because hes not happy. He actually plays better when he feels like hes been wronged.
    Personally I dont want Mcnabb to be traded Im just giving my two cents on the subject.

  109. McNabb mess only gets
    Filbertkiwi71 says:
    March 26, 2010 2:56 PM
    myeaglescantwin says: March 26, 2010 2:30 PM
    “you wont see any movements until draft day.”
    ================
    No team in their right mind is going to trade for McNabb unless he agrees to a long term contract before hand. That means that a deal has to be done before draft day, and the Eagles have to get what they feel is adequate compensation out of the deal. That type of deal can’t be struck on draft day, too many moving parts, and not enough time.
    _________________________________
    The guy didnt say they would start the talks on draft day he said you wont see any movement until draft day.
    Which means they could be negotating the deal and placing all the “moving parts” in the right position days or even weeks before the draft.
    All the guy is saying is he doesnt believe WE will see any movement until draft day. That doesnt mean teams wont talk about it before then.

  110. I didn’t know that you were close personal friends with McNabb. You know where he does and doesn’t want to go, and whether or not he’ll stay.
    Either way, this will play out, and you’ll be wrong.
    With everything that has happened in the last few days, they almost HAVE to trade him. He knows he’s on the block, and he also knows that he’s a lame duck. Considering his past crying fits when he doesn’t get his own way, I’d say that he’s getting moved regardless of what he wants and where he wants to go. You’ll see it soon enough.

  111. @Mooch
    You still didn’t address the fact thay philly fans do in fact undervalue his talents. While I do not live in that sh*thole I have been there more than a thousand times. I say that philly is racist is simply that because he has done way more than Jaws ever did and consistently on sportstalk radio out of philly people do nothing but complain about how he isn’t a pocket passer and that he isn’t smart enough to handle the QB position. I speak with substance and actual facts. Every other week during the season you have every philly fan I have ever met use the N-bomb to describe him and say nothing but horrible things about a pro-bowl QB. I hope this clears things up for you. In the future please don’t cite baseball and basketball players. Just stick to the football players in that s-hole city of yours.

  112. Die Hard,
    Let’s address two things you don’t know anything about – football and cities.
    First – DC is, without question, the bigger hellhole. Murder rate. Lack of any kind of fashion sense (those Sunday AM political shows look like they were shot in 1982). Ugly, ugly people. The mediocrity of all 50 states concentrated into one place, in the form of hack politicians and hangers on. AWFUL RESTAURANTS – Olive Garden is the best Italian restaurant in DC.
    Now, your Jaws comment reveals your ignorance and, frankly, laziness. You chose to make it a racial issue because it was easy to do so. You didn’t have to think or do any research. In that regard, you are much like Rush.
    If you knew anything you’d know that the QB McNabb is most compared with is Randall Cunningham. I’m not sure you know this, but Randall is black. As was Rodney Peete, who was also embraced by the fans.
    You then make up the part about sportstalk radio – in a decade of listening to WIP and Sportstalk 950 (since it launched) I have heard MAYBE 6 calls saying McNabb was too dumb to play QB. Maybe six. And they were quickly dismissed by the hosts and mocked by subsequent callers. So, you just made that up.
    As for Philly fans using the n-word to describe McNabb, that is a lie. You made that up, and didn’t even make it sound plausible (“every other week”, “every fan”).
    Half the city is black. This city is so far past that. So, again, you made that up. I can only guess that you live in some all-white racist area of the South where people have (a) fourth grade educations, (b) few teeth or shirt sleeves, (c) no jobs or heath care – only in such a backward place would anyone use that word. It’s ridiculous. This isn’t Rizzo era, dude.
    Why not be a man and make an argument? You are a coward who makes up unbelievable claims because you stated a bunch of opinions you can’t back up.
    It’s like talking to a child dealing with you. You are a total, absolute joke.

  113. At best, you took Randall Cunningham’s scenario circa 1986 and just pretended it applied to McNabb in 2010.
    But, as we know, Irish Catholic NE Philly was full of #12 jerseys by 1989.
    But you know that, right? Because you know the city so well…
    Douche. Bag.

  114. 1) Commonsense: Seymour DID NOT want to go to Oakland. NO ONE wants to Oakland, LOL !
    2) Donovan deserves better than going to Oakland or Buffalo. I’d like to see him either stay in Philly, or go to Arizona.
    3) In the event that Favre doesn’t return to Minnesota, I think Donovan would fit in well there. Frankly, i’m hoping Favre comes back. It wouldn’t be the same without him.

  115. Sage Rosenfels & Madaeu Williams to the Raiders for Nnamdi Asomugha. Then the Vikes then trade their 3rd and 7th round picks to Philly for Mcnabb. Favre will come back but at 33 years old I think Donavan would be his usual class act self and step down until the time is ready (#4 gets hurt or becomes innefective). Plus McNabb would make T-Jack a better player learning things together on the sideline watching Favre (presuming he holds up, which he will).

  116. Purple says:
    March 28, 2010 11:00 PM
    Sage Rosenfels & Madaeu Williams to the Raiders for Nnamdi Asomugha. Then the Vikes then trade their 3rd and 7th round picks to Philly for Mcnabb. Favre will come back but at 33 years old I think Donavan would be his usual class act self and step down until the time is ready (#4 gets hurt or becomes innefective). Plus McNabb would make T-Jack a better player learning things together on the sideline watching Favre (presuming he holds up, which he will).
    Yeah…THAT’LL happen..just like the Easter Bunny coming to tyour house..1.Raiders are NOT giving up Nnamdi for those 2 dopes..2.Donovan is NOT going to step aside for anyone..nice dream even though it’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on the delusuional side. What are you smoking and where can we all get some? LOLOL

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