Judge takes request for ongoing StarCaps injunction under advisement

At a Thursday afternoon hearing regarding whether an injunction preventing the NFL from suspending Vikings defensive tackles Pat and Kevin Williams (and, in turn, Saints defensive end Will Smith) for violating the steroids policy pending the appeal of Judge Gary Larson’s ruling clearing the way for the suspensions to be imposed, Judge Larson has taken the matter under advisement, requesting written briefs from the parties.

Attorney Peter Ginsberg, who represents the players, tells us that a ruling is expect by the end of next week.

It’s also possible — but hardly likely — that the NFL and the players could settle the case with an agreement not to suspend the players, if the ruling that the NFL is a joint employer of the players and that the NFL violated the Minnesota drug testing statutes is in turn wiped off the books.  That way, the outcome couldn’t be used as precedent in the event the league faces similar claims in the future.

Then again, the mere fact that the ruling was issued surely will be cited by any future player who makes similar claims — or by any third party who tries to sue not only the team but also the NFL for injuries inflicted by a player.

23 responses to “Judge takes request for ongoing StarCaps injunction under advisement

  1. Get ready for all the non-Viking fans to bring up New Orleans, new stadium, Brett Favre, etc….

  2. is this still happening? seriously, just stop. we didnt care that much to begin with, we certainly dont care now.

  3. 4 games for starcaps! That is fricking ridiculous! 1 game seems more than enough. Vikings will make the playoffs no matter what and that includes with or without the warrior Brett Favre!

  4. What up Johnny Randle I know you can still get after it! Best DT of all time! No doubt!

  5. Yea thats pretty ridiculous that starcaps is in the same league as some of the other crap getting 4 game suspensions.

  6. 4 games for starcaps! That is fricking ridiculous! 1 game seems more than enough. Vikings will make the playoffs no matter what and that includes with or without the warrior Brett Favre!
    Really??? just a little biased maybe?? Rules are rules…

  7. That’s the whole point Packerfan…they didn’t know they were breaking the rules until the NFL told them after the fact.
    It would have taken two minutes for the NFL to draft up a league memo letting all players know that Starcaps contained a banned substance not listed on the label.
    Then, their ass is covered and this whole mess would’ve been avoided.

  8. what the hell does all this mean? the nfl will never settle out of court.goodell has to big of an ego

  9. man – i LOVE the far side…this reminds me of those cows drivin’ by the people in field sayin’ yakety yak yakety yak…

  10. man up, take the punishment and stop crying like a bunch of little babies, or more accurately, like the Viking fan base.
    Have you ever met a bunch of bigger excuse-makers ? You play for a coach that is a cross dresser for crying out loud, how bad can a 4 game suspension be, at least you don’t have to listen to the guy for a quarter of the season.

  11. Goodel really screwed the pooch on this one.
    Other players had already “walked” for taking Star Caps. The NFL did not proplerly disclose that it contained bumentidide.
    All they had to do was disclose that Star Caps was banned and inforce it going forward.
    Instead they given themselves a “black eye” by not dealing fairly with the Williamsons, et al.
    Additionally, there is now presidence for treating the NFL as an employer, drastically hurting their standing in other issues.
    The league stands to reap everything they deserve on this one.

  12. # paoconno says: May 6, 2010 5:43 PM
    That’s the whole point Packerfan…they didn’t know they were breaking the rules until the NFL told them after the fact.
    It would have taken two minutes for the NFL to draft up a league memo letting all players know that Starcaps contained a banned substance not listed on the label.
    Then, their ass is covered and this whole mess would’ve been avoided.
    ——
    I once got a ticket for driving through a “red” light. When I went to court to plead my case, two things happened: 1) I was required to plead guilty to have a chance to speak to the Judge and hence get a chance to reduce the idiotic $180 ticket [this was back in the mid 90s] 2) when I did so, and the Judge asked me what happened, and I said the light was yellow, Your Honor, it was not red.” She folded her arms on the bench and said, like it was known to the whole universe, “Yellow means stop.” Dumbfounded, I said, “Excuse, me, Judge?” and explained that driver’s training says yellow means proceed with caution, etc. She repeated herself and lectured me on being more cautious and reduced my fine by $50.
    Not knowing the rules, indeed.
    There were many people in that courtroom with much more dire circumstances than me. The one ahead of me was there for throwing a lit cigarette out the window into a tinder-dry clearcut forested area in July while being followed by a police officer. The cop was about to arrest him for his 9th moving violation of the year and take his license away, again. And this dweeb adds $500 to it with the lit butt. The kid was in traffic court, not in handcuffs or anything.
    In my opinion, the NFL is there to protect players and protect the game’s integrity from tarnish. Big Ben got harsh penalties because he besmirched the game, like Vick did. Ben didn’t legally commit any crimes. Neither did the Williams boys, but they made the league and the game look bad. Pacman Jones has committed numerous crimes yet continues to get opportunities to play in the NFL.
    Pat and Kevin Williams went through an NFL yellow light. Another idiotic fine.

  13. Maybe the nfl should start their own pharmacy and that might clear up some of the meds they can use

  14. Watch and see…
    Big Ben will only serve four games. His sentence will them be equal to guys taking over the counter suppliments.
    Let’s see….
    Forcing yourself on young girls = taking legal suppliments….right….
    I say again, Goodel screwed the pooch on this one.

  15. Look at all the Vikings’ fans continuing to ignore the FACT that the NFL banned all products made by Balance Health Products almost a year and a half before the Williams tested positive. They ignored that ban, ignored a warning on all supplements not on an approved list, and whined like their fan base when busted. Sit those fat asses down.

  16. The suspension should not be limited to 4 games for the original infraction.
    There ought to be one game for insubordination in taking the league to court and another game for delaying taking their discipline.
    Make it 6 games.

  17. Take your suspension? Mindless sheep you are. Wake up and stop bending over you lug-heads.
    The NFL brain trust needs to take a hard look at their stupid broad stroke policies and get them in order. The judge knows that it’s out of line and needs to be challenged, which is why this case is being drawn out.
    I’m glad they’re fighting it – their careers will be coming to a close soon and I would want this crap off my record.

  18. I had no problem with the players taking the legal avenue if they felt their situation was handled unfairly. Most people would do the same. I also don’t have a problem, even as a Viking fan, if after due process the decision goes against them and they still have to serve a suspension. They got their day in court.
    There are however, some other interesting and perhaps disturbing aspects of this case.
    I find it odd that at a time when the league, in response to the uproar over the plight of retired players, insists it cares about the players, and yet decided to withhold from the current players information about a potentially dangerous spiked diuretic.
    One of the quickest and surest ways for a business to get itself into legal action is to be uneven when dispensing discipline for the same offense. Companies lose lawsuits when they let employees A & B get away with breaking a rule, but drop the hammer on employees C & D for the same thing. The legitimacy to the NFL’s outcry over how their drug policy needs to be handled the same with each player in every state (and how the Minnesota state law , if upheld, would disrupt that balance) loses all credibility when the league admittedly has already let players commiting the same offense as the Williams Wall go without punishment. This is one of the most disturbing aspects of this case.
    This may very well end up being a classic case of winning the battle but losing the war for the NFL. The fact the court found the league a joint employer may in the future damage the NFL far more than a suspension would the Williams duo or the Vikings. The NFL has tried to have it both ways when it considers itself employers or not, and that ploy won’t be so easy to carry out from now on. Good luck with that now!

  19. JimmySmith says:
    May 6, 2010 6:25 PM
    man up, take the punishment and stop crying like a bunch of little babies, or more accurately, like the Viking fan base.
    Have you ever met a bunch of bigger excuse-makers ?
    —————————————–
    Yes – Packer fans! Did you read any of the comments for the Jolly stories?
    Carolina Homie –
    You ignore the FACT that the NFL let others go unpunished after testing positive for the same thing they are trying to suspend the Williams duo.
    Bob Nelson –
    You have crafted the very definition of retaliation, which is in violation of labor laws in every state in the union. Kevin & Pat could only hope Goodell would try that stunt, so they could go to court for a slam dunk in their favor.

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