Cards can forget about calling Kurt Warner

After last night’s three-pack of three-and-outs from quarterback Matt Leinart and a couple of flashes of promise, but not nearly enough, from backup Derek Anderson, Cardinals fans have to be hoping that Kurt Warner can be lured out of his First Annual Retirement.

It’s not happening.

As Peter King pointed out during his Tuesday morning stint with Ross Tucker of Sirius NFL Radio, Warner continued to reiterate his retirement during Monday night’s loss by the Cardinals to the Titans.

I am not coming back,” Warner said, via Twitter.  He then asked whether Twitter users, plenty of whom surely were begging him to come back, know the definition of “retire.”  (The problem is that, given the meanderings of Brett Favre over the past two-plus years, plenty of us no longer do.)

Warner later thanked the Monday Night Football crew for throwing him a bouquet during the game, but Warner again said, “I am done.”

So while coach Ken Whisenhunt could be tempted to bend a knee in the hopes of bringing Warner back, it likely would take a lot more money than the Cardinals ever would spend even to get Warner’s attention. 

Instead, the Cardinals should have offered up a much smaller chunk of money to Marc Bulger.  Better still, they should have traded for Donovan McNabb.

56 responses to “Cards can forget about calling Kurt Warner

  1. The Cardboards need to ride Max Hall!! Sure it was vs. the Titans scrubs but so were the receivers that Hall was gunning the ball to. Did you see Fitz on the sidelines? He was pumped! Hall was delivering the ball with authority and kept his head and eyes downfield at all times. He got the ball out quick and had good movement in and out of the pocket.

  2. All those dillusional Cardinals fans that said they would be fine without Warner, Boldin, Dansby, Rolle, etc must really be worried now. I said it then and I’ll say it now… sorry Arizona fans but you’ll be picking in the top 8 of the draft.

  3. There has to be a point where his wife would crack the whip and make him play. The question is, what’s the majic number?
    If the Cards struggle it will be the perfect example of what a Franchise QB, or lack there of, means to an organization.

  4. Kurt Warner is no Brett Farve. Brett is tougher…and a bigger knucklehead.
    Besides, Cards need to stick with Leinart. That was the horse you picked, work with it.

  5. There wasn’t much the Cards could do that would not have undermined the confidence of Leinart. He was a first round pick, paid like a high first round, and they had to back him and put him in the best position to win. If he cannot succeed with all this support, put a fork in him. If he performs poorly, don’t be surprised if he is benched early with a mysterious ‘ injury’.

  6. McNabb lives in Phoenix, made perfect sense to persue him especially after seeing what the Skins gave up.
    Just looks like the Cards are becoming the West Coast Bucs. Management tightening the purse strings, slowly but surely the fade back to obscurity is coming.

  7. Seemsw hen Kurt Warner says something he actually sticks to it. All religion comments aside its called Conviction. I feel like that word is used a lot on PFT just under different context

  8. # tonka says: August 24, 2010 9:32 AM
    “They could probably go get Sage Rosenfels for cheap.”
    I think that’s a good idea, but would’ve been a better idea prior to training camp. I think that Rosenfels would be hungry enough for a chance at starting that he’d play his ass off.

  9. The cards have a pretty good team that will go to waste with those qbs. The 9ers just have to show up and they’ll win the weak division.

  10. Given the opportunity, Anderson can be solid. He has proven that. Most will glare at the fact of a few very pourous seasons with Cleveland after a Pro Bowl one. BUT, one has to take into account the surroundings in Cleveland. Edwards couldn’t catch aids in a gay bath house (though I am sure he acquired the disease at some gay bath house at some point, or will), the right side of the line was god awful after Tucker went down, JLew provided no running game in 08′ or 09′, the changing of the guard frequently alllowing for the only consistency to be inconsistency, and worst of all, who can play under the boo’s from Cleveland fans that have stared bad QB play in the eyes since 1999.
    Given the opportunity to succeed under normal football circumstances, DA can be more than sufficient. I do not see him struggling behind the AZ line, running game, & receiving weapons like Fitz, Breaston, Ducet, & the Delaware TE *cannot remember his name at this time but I was surprised he slipped like he did and was pissed that Cleveland didn’t pick him*.

  11. Brohamma says:
    The Cardboards need to ride Max Hall!!
    Oh come on. Most 3rd QB’s look great in preseason against lowly backups. Let Hall start a game in the 1Q against an opposing teams starters and he’ll fail.
    Usual armchair fan who loves the backup (or 3rd string) QB as always

  12. It is no coincidence that good NFL organizations never stay down for too long, but historical losers like the Cardinals quickly revert back to their natural state of mediocrity.

  13. Sage couldnt start for the dolphins when they were trying every QB to replace Marino…SAGE IS A BACK-UP, nothing more

  14. BEST OBSERVATION OF THE NIGHT:
    Ron Jaworski said after a very nice Vince Young downfield pass “A Quarterback is supposed to lead his receiver to the opening.” Doesn’t sound like much, but it says it all about field vision. Anderson did a better job of that, but Leinart appears to still not get it. He’s waiting for someone to get open, or if no one is open tries to drill it into a small space. Neither QB does a good job of leading into space, the way Manning, Brees, Rivers and Romo do. Both Arizona QB’s appear to have more Cutler in them than fans would like. Ask Billy The Kid what happens to Gunslingers…..

  15. Brohamma says:
    August 24, 2010 9:30 AM
    The Cardboards need to ride Max Hall!! Sure it was vs. the Titans scrubs but so were the receivers that Hall was gunning the ball to. Did you see Fitz on the sidelines? He was pumped! Hall was delivering the ball with authority and kept his head and eyes downfield at all times. He got the ball out quick and had good movement in and out of the pocket.
    I agree. Max Hall deserves the job. He’s the only one that shows creativity under pressure, and the Cards will see a lot of that. He also doesn’t show quit in his eyes. Leinhart knows he is done, especially since the first teamers don’t like him….and don’t want to play for him. Anderson is a little better, but he’s got the same disease that Brady Quinn has got….something to do with sucking.

  16. Derek Anderson will never be an NFL quarterback. He has been around the league long enough to learn how to lead a receiver, how to hit his man in the numbers from 15 yards away rather than heave it 6 feet over their head, when to throw to the back shoulder and that it’s tough to catch an 8 yard pass when it’s only thrown 6 yards. For the life of me I cannot figure out why he can’t fix that. There can be very little blame put on the O line, his receivers or his running backs for him being so lousy. He was a 6th round pick for a reason.

  17. I’m surprised you didn’t say they should have signed Dante Culpepper. After all he was the best free agent QB available in the offseason, right Florio?

  18. Matt Leinhart was not brought into to NFL the right way. The cardinals should have thrown him into the fire right after he was drafted while he was still hot. He was ready for NFL style play right away. Instead they let him get heavier/slower and less ready mentally by sitting him on the sideline. Its gonna be a long time before he is shocked back into playing the way he was.

  19. Leinart is fine. The guy was 4 out of 6 with no picks while he was in. Averaging 12 ypa. Don’t blame the problems on him. His passer rating for the game was better than Anderson or Hall.
    No one is calling Kurt Warner. He is done because he’s DONE. Totally different situation from Favre who is still at the top of the game.

  20. I think Kurt saw the writing on the wall. Even though he is ten times the QB as those on their roster, the Cards weren’t going to amount to much this year, with or without him. Kurt got going while the gettin’ was good. Cards fans might as well get used to things being the way there once were. Their short run is over, and nobody could have saved them. Not Warner, not even Favre, or Joe Montana in his prime.

  21. The Cards also could have had Jason Campbell for a song. Matt’s noodle arm just can’t get it done. Look back at his USC days and all those lofty perfect spirals that hung in the air forever. Yeh they were perfectly places and yeh they were perfect spirals, but the closing speed of NFL defenders is just too much for his arm.

  22. I just wish we were playing the cards in week one.. would love to shut them up.. starting with Docket, we’ll see how far he runs his mouth after an ass whooping.

  23. John Skelton looked pretty good in his first game didnt watch last nights game in a few years could start but this year they need a run game and a solid defense just to stay in competition for the division front runners will be 49ers if smith can follow up from last season and gore stays healthy pass game should improve for the 49ers with a year of experience for crabtree davis needs another big year defense should be great for them

  24. Anderson had ONE good pass the whole game and while he moved the offense on the ONE play, he short-circuited the drive with his last two passes, which could have been TDs. There’s no doubt that he’s got the arm but he also doesn’t have the accuracy to be consistent and that’s why he’s no longer in Cleveland.

  25. Wait. I’m confused. I thought “retire” meant “hang out at my farm until training camp is over and then have the team send a plane for me.”

  26. Long year for you Cardinal fan, issues at the the QB position and Vince young and Co. went up and down the field on your defense. Looks like a prolonged rebuilding stage for you guys especially with a TIGHT ASS owner who doesn’t like to take care of his CORE players.
    Hardly the blueprint for success.

  27. jwawker says: August 24, 2010 10:00 AM
    It is no coincidence that good NFL organizations never stay down for too long, but historical losers like the Cardinals quickly revert back to their natural state of mediocrity.
    ————————————————-
    Great point & one I completely agree w/. As a Rams fan I was LIVID when they cut KW. Side stepping all the pros & cons of that decision & where they were at the time? Look at the Lambs now! Some old sorry **sed Rams like Dana Stubblefield so eloquently put it in 98. Same losers just like they were all through the 90s b4 Warner took them to the promised land. SOMEHOW that sorry organization found a way to take a Super bowl contender, & turn it into a 1-15 squad 8 yrs. later.
    Warner took TWO perennial NFL losers and helped turn them into contenders over night. Kurt almost didn’t get a second chance w/ AZ due to dense Denny Green, & the stupid Leinart pick. (Psst Denny….there was a reason why Matty sunk so low in that draft). Luckily for Cards fans Wizz righted that wrong. Now though I’m afraid if the Lambs are any indication? It could be a long wait for Cards fans b4 they sniff another SB birth. Is it any coincidence that Bill Bidwell’s Cards used to reside in St. Louis b4 jumping ship for AZ? Are these two franchises linked/cursed because of that? Now there’s a hot topic for Unsolved Mysteries!

  28. What do you expect when you draft yet another overrated USC QB who will flop in the NFL? The list of ‘SC QBs who’ve done anything in the NFL is at least… one line long.

  29. You em-effers want so bad to post a story “Warner thinking twice” as soon as he even says he misses it 1/100 of a percent. Right! Like it is all Favres fault you and ESPN were up his ass every second of the day. FYI – he never said he was retiring this year or last year. A-holes!!!

  30. I think Anderson is the best bet…..he did the impossible in Cleveland, he made the Browns look good.

  31. Matt Leinert should go back to USC. At least there he’d score touchdowns with the girls!

  32. That little comment in the story that we don’t know what retirement means in the Brett Favre era is silly. Warner has enough class to say no and mean it.
    Rosenfels is the obvious solution. This guy stepped in for Schaub a couple years ago and the offense didn’t miss a beat. I have no idea why the Vikes are so sold on Jackson, but Rosenfels is arguably the best b/u in the league. Grab him.

  33. Why do you guys have such love for Bulger? He is done and washed up. He’s not even a good backup QB now.

  34. LA_Rams_Fan says: August 24, 2010 11:48 AM
    Warner took TWO perennial NFL losers and helped turn them into contenders over night. ***********************
    Pssst, LAMMY, there’s a reason why they went for another QB — 2 wins and 8 losses as starter and he was 1-4 in Leinart’s rookie year while Matt was 4-7. Warner opened up the season as the starter and was pulled after he went 1-3 and then he took over for the last couple of games after Leinart was hurt.

  35. As an avid 49ers fan I just want to express my empathy to you Cards’ fans out there. Not having a capable QB hurts so much, and is really painful to watch. Now I’m not sure why things haven’t panned out well with Matt, but in my humble opinion, despite last season’s series sweep – Arizona is still the team to beat in the NFC West. You’ve got loads of talent in all phases of the team, but that lingering question mark @ QB can really hold ur team back.
    With St.Louis a few more years away, and Seattle building away steadily – the Cards have been on top of the mountain – deservedly so. I see the same thing happening with the 49ers, that happened when u guys finished 8-8. It’s never fun to be in the division’s basement, and since the 49ers were out of contention, it was great to see you take charge, and rise to the occassion – representing the West and showing the rest of the NFL how teams from the “weakest division in football” come out to play.
    Over the past few seasons, I’m glad to see a heated rivalry emerge between us – always a great game from both sides.. has a different feel to it. It’s no coincedence that our games have been aired on MNF as of late.
    I wonder if all 4 teams from the NFC West will ever be amongst the elite at the same time.. would love to see that competition.
    I genuinely dislike the Cards, Hawks and Rams; but I sincerely respect what ur franchise has been able to do – just a shame that it could be all undone because of who’s taking the snaps behind center.. Best of luck, and see u live on Monday night.

  36. It shows how little most of you clowns know about the Cardinals when you talk about having a cheap owner. Newsflash… The old man doesn’t call the shots. His son Michael does. All he’s done since taking over is build one of the best stadiums in the league, rejuve ate the fan base, win2 straight divisions and go to a Super Bowl. It’s not as if other franchises haven’t lost a great qb and stumbled momentarily. Warner being gone does not mean a long term free fall. First they have a great head coach who will hold things togeher. Second Michael Bidwill has shown he will spend money on players. Three the Cardinals as an organization are very good at identifying talent. So keep throwing out your “Cards are cheap” b.s. It just proves you don’t know shit about the NFL.

  37. TRADE FOR TROY SMITH, AT LEAST HE WAS GOING TO BE A STARTER IN BALTIMORE, BEFORE HE GOT SICK
    GET TROY SMITH NOW AND SEE WHAT HE’S GOT

  38. I love the niner fans claiming victory already. Don’t you have quarterback issues, plus an average at best secondary? The season hasn’t even started so sit back and relax. I believe your coach is good for 2 losses just for showing up. The Bears didn’t want him as a coach. Enjoy.

  39. Mike Vick wont win you a super bowl or even a division title in most divisions. But he could deffently win the NFC West for the Cardinals. 1 year 5 million for a division title and a shot at a miracle in the playoffs is worth a 2nd-3rd round conditional pick in my book.
    __________________________________
    heyguru says: August 24, 2010 10:10 AM
    BEST OBSERVATION OF THE NIGHT:
    Ron Jaworski said after a very nice Vince Young downfield pass “A Quarterback is supposed to lead his receiver to the opening.” Doesn’t sound like much, but it says it all about field vision.
    Well if you want that from your qb then your lucky the Cardinals didnt trade for Mcnabb.

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