Childress-led Vikings still in turmoil

Think the Vikings solved their in-house problems with a stunning, late-game turnaround against the Cardinals, which saw a 14-point deficit erased and a three-point win achieved in overtime?

Think again.

Former Vikings beat writer Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times, who now covers the Bears, writes in advance of Sunday’s game between the two teams that the Vikings remain chilly toward Childress.

“We know that Childress doesn’t have our backs, so
why should we have his?” one player told Jensen.  “We’re playing for us, and
we’re winning despite
him.”

“He has absolutely no people skills,” another team source said regarding Childress.

Per Jensen, Childress’ post-game rip of quarterback Brett Favre following a narrow loss to the Packers pissed off more players than Favre.  “For a lot of guys, that was a turning point,” an unnamed player told Jensen.

And while three players told Jensen that they supported the controversial decision to get rid of receiver Randy Moss, they’d apparently like to see Childress go, too.

“As much as I hate Childress,” another unnamed player said, “I will keep playing.”

And Childress will keep coaching.  As long as the Vikings keep winning.

88 responses to “Childress-led Vikings still in turmoil

  1. These “anonymous” players are losers. Then again this is the same group of players who soiled their undies at the thought of being Favre-less and went to Mississippi to grovel and beg. Fire Chilly tomorrow. Not enough winners in that locker room to have it matter.

  2. I’m not a Chilly fan by any means but if the players and unnamed sources had any balls, they would tell Wilf. If the entire team or even a majority feels the same, then stage a mutiny. Man up, take a vote, sign a petition, and pass it up to the owner. If he makes a change great. If not, at least you had the decency to let your position be know. If Wilf doesn’t fie Chilly, then just shut up and play. Plenty of bosses have poor people skills and sometime you don’t control who your boss is but still have to be a pro. Enough with the 2nd grade school girl crap in the papers/internet/tv.

  3. Shut up with this garbage, Florio! More anonymous sources quoted by obscure or mostly unknown “journalists.” You’re hatred of this man is unreal.

  4. The unnamed player?
    Randy Moss.
    Come on Jensen, I thought you were better than this. Those who remember you in Minny know you were a Moss Jockey too. I guess he has to do something to stir the pot this week though.
    I’m sure some of the players are against Chilly, but they know he is the boss and can deal with it on a professional level.

  5. When you are playing at home and a team as pathetic as AZ takes you to OT…yeah, I’ll say you still have major issues…
    You would think Vikes just came back to beat the Steelers the way media reacted to that game.

  6. Unnamed players, another team source,one player said this, more players than Favre pissed off, he said she said,another unnamed player. The only thing this thread lacks is proof. These are professional athletes and this is still a free country. Name the sources or STFU!

  7. Skol Skisms!
    If the troops don’t like you, that’s life. If they don’t respect you, that’s death. Thanks for playing the 2010 version of the NFL, Vikings. We’ve got some lovely parting gifts for you.

  8. “As much as I hate Childress,” another unnamed player said, “I will keep playing.”
    Wow, what a hero. He’ll keep doing the job he is paid an immense sum of money to do despite the fact he doesn’t like his boss. He’s bearing quite the cross. This is one of the big problems with the vikings, they don’t have leadership or character.

  9. Wow, I realized it was bad but not this bad. We desperately need the Vikings to keep on winning until a point where Col Clueless Klink is safe again.
    His coaching skills have always been on display, 12 men in the huddle in the NFC Championship game, 4 straight running plays in the loss to the Dolphins, he lost his red flag on the Packer TD two weeks ago but everybody outside of the clueless CryQueen fans already knew he isn’t (or has ever been) a real head coach.
    So let’s all attack these baseless rumors attributed to “unnamed’ sources. This is yellow journalism at its worst. It seems unfair that these writers can smear a man’s good name while hiding behind the 1st amendment. Childress must stay!

  10. Gotta love those proverbial “unnamed sources” – classic. A long-accepted method of writing anything you want, I suppose.
    But, I’m not convinced the best NFL head coaches have ever been well-liked. It’s not their job to be liked and if you find a coach being liked, then that coach probably has one foot in the grave.
    Maybe it would have been better to use “respected”, as opposed to “liked”.

  11. When they showed a repeat of their game against the Cardinals on NFL Network, I noticed the fire in B. Berrian’s eyes after his big gain. That’s what the Vikings need to recover, the passion they had last year. If they recover that, and I hope that was the turning point, they’ll be back in the thick of it.

  12. Unnamed player? I can believe every word….however doesn’t carry much weight unless sources are confirmed. If the Vikes pull off a 3-4 game win streak you can bet the coach will be liked just fine in the locker room by MOST of the players. How many people in any organization/work place like their bosses?
    This is a non story.

  13. I may be reading too much into this but it seems like there may be a schism in the Viking locker room.

  14. I am literally shocked every second that this incompetent boob remains the head coach of the Vikings. Chilly is the millstone around the Vikings’ necks that prevents them from playing up to their talents, that they have to overcome in order to win games.

  15. The inmates are running the asylum in Minnesota which never works.
    How important is the head coach? Take a look at the top teams in the NFL
    NY Giants 6-2 (Coughlin; Super Bowl Ring)
    New England 6-2 (Belicheck; Super BWowl Ring)
    Pittsburgh 6-2 (Tomlin; Super Bowl Ring)
    New Orleans 6-3 (Payton; Super Bowl Ring)
    The other top teams are coached by what most consider the up and comers:
    NY Jets 6-2 (Ryan)
    Baltimore 6-2 (Harbaugh)
    Atlanta 6-2 (White)
    Quarterbacks league? I say Coaches league.
    When was the last Super Bowl Champion Team that wasn’t coached by a solid leader?
    26 Coaches have won Super Bowls – There have been 43 games played – Do the math.

  16. I’d be willing to be you could go into any locker room and find a player that says they hate their coach. There is a big difference between hating someone and not respecting someone.

  17. As much as I love hearing about the implosion that is this franchise’s well-deserved destiny, I’ve got to wonder what delusional player they interviewed thinks the Vikings are ‘winning despite’ Childress. A 3-5 record with a 1 game winning streak which was only eeked out in the last minute of the game against the 28th ranked defense and a bad quarterback constitutes them continuing to win?

  18. As a Packer fan, I couldn’t be more happy watching the implosion of the Vikings and Cowboys.

  19. This is just another hits grab. It brings out the Packer fan sheep in droves. Florio plays those morons like a violin, every day.

  20. Another example why this is one of the most hapless franchises in the league and has never won anything of note. Players whining about the coach……….really? So every team that ever won a championship has to love their coach? Really?
    Pathetic……..enjoy your season losers! Nice signature win against the……………cardinals.

  21. Me thinks Sean Jensen is a fabricator. Even if true do you actually think every player on that team, or any team is going to like the coach? Maybe the players in question are mini-Moss types …. a-holes.

  22. First of all how many players really like their coach. You’ll have many who don’t like their coach whether it’s because they don’t get enough playing time or disputes over play calling and on and on. My present manager at my job is terrific. My last manager at U.S. Bank was a short, obese homely as hell woman who I wouldn’t use to wipe my ass-so how many of us really get along with our bosses be it supervisor, manager coach or whatever. Let’s just concentrate on not getting illegal procedures, lining up wrong, holding penaties, offsides etc and play football……..O.K. Minnesota Vikings?

  23. Jensen was in MSP for a long time and I believe he told the guys he wouldn’t publish the names out of respect. Jesen didn’t make that stuff up.
    The Vikes may win a game or two for themselves but it will not last when the team is broken like this.
    Number questions- When Zygi finally drops the hammer will this guy even sniff another job. I’m thinking nobody will touch his kick ass offense and leadership ability.
    Zig- C’mon,,,,,,,,,Rick Stays,,,,,,,,,Chilly has to go.

  24. They could fire Childress today and they’d still have the same structural problems: INT-happy QB, bad O-line, lackluster defense.
    But go ahead, players. Blame the coach, because if you don’t, then there’s only one group you can blame — the guys with the numbers on their shirts.

  25. Again….who does like their boss? Bottom line is you do your job to keep you job. Nothing to see here people just move along.

  26. I’m not a Chilly fan by any means but if the players and unnamed sources had any balls, they would tell Wilf.
    ________________________
    uh, DP, according to reports, many did tell Wilf when he met with a bunch of people. Them taking the initiative and going to Wilf, however, isn’t a great idea for most of them. As long as he’s the head coach, his contract gives him the authority to make personnel moves. Why do you think Moss isn’t still there? He wasn’t waived because of the bit with the caterer, he was waived because he told Wilf that Childress was a lousy coach and should be fired.

  27. You people wanting them to name their sources need to get real. You wouldn’t name them either, it’s how their job works. Name them and all of a sudden they never have sources again.

  28. The issue isn’t about Childress being LIKED, it’s about the team not respecting him and his decision-making. If they don’t trust him or believe he can make the right decisions then they’re less apt to play 100%, or will ad lib on the field because they think they know better.
    Childress has proven time and again that he is an awful game manager and game planner. If your boss at work constantly screws up and puts you in a hole, why would you want to continue to work for him?

  29. That whole division is a mess. GB is a wild card team at best and they will probably lose in the 1st round anyway.
    Something must be in that hillbilly, Midwest water.

  30. @ Tim Snead,
    Normally I would agree to you that anonymous players are lame… However, you do realize what just happened to the last guy that criticized Childress openly don’t you?
    I’m glad the Vikings said these things because I think the perception was getting around that they were doing this FOR him, and that certainly is not the case.

  31. Stop the presses, a news report about players disliking their coach and what he says. Regardless of whether Klink is a dope (which he seems to be), the team still plays hard — unlike Dallas which caves and gets blown out. They’ll keep him until the season is over to avoid mid-season disruption and then dump him. At that point, we’ll get a real coach, and with Klink and Lovie gone, McLardy will be the lone remaining NFCN coaching dope.

  32. As the great Casey Stengel once said, “The secret to managing is to keep the 5 players who hate you away from the 5 players who are undecided.”

  33. I am not a Childress fan and you could say that anything that happens on the field is his responsibility. But , a STeam’s TD where the return man is not touched? – coach is to blame?? QB throws an INT from the 2-yd line? Coach is to blame? LB drops a sure INT (perhaps for a TD) Coach is to blame? All 3 were game-changing plays — the guys on the field must perform — the coach does not control each and every play. Yeh, his game-calling stinks,as do his challenges,but that game is much different if Greenway, Favre, and the STeams did their job early in the game. That is reality.

  34. That’s funny, Jay Glazer reported after that loss that many of the Vikings players were extremely concerned with Favre’s turnovers. Somehow I doubt they had a problem with Chilly ripping Favre for his game-killing INT’s. Kinda like how the Jets players were ripping Favre in the press for his turnovers in New York.
    And i’m sure the mood hasn’t changed in Minny following their narrow OT win over one of the worst teams in the league………they realize they gained zero ground in their division and, thus, the playoff race since Green Bay and Chicago both won as well.

  35. “As much as I hate Childress,” another unnamed player said, “I will keep playing.”
    Wow, what a hero. He’ll keep doing the job he is paid an immense sum of money to do despite the fact he doesn’t like his boss. He’s bearing quite the cross. This is one of the big problems with the vikings, they don’t have leadership or character.
    —————————-
    Spot on post.

  36. Does anyone think the Vikings are going to go 6-2 the rest of the year to hit 9 wins? Even that might not be enough to make the playoffs. Realistically, they will need ten wins and have to go 7-1 to make the playoffs.
    Not. Going. To. Happen.
    This is a flawed team that almost lost at home to the horrible Arizona Cardinals. The Vikings might get better but they aren’t going 7-1.
    Long term it is just better for this team to fold which forces Wilf to fire Childress.

  37. Green Bay won’t be a “wild card team at best” since they will win the division. They manhandled the supposed then-NFL best NYJ in their own crib. They are 6-3, no NFL team has less than 2 losses. Yeah, Green Bay sucks. They may not win the Super Bowl but get a clue man.

  38. “As long as the Vikings keep winning …”
    Since their 12-men in the huddle debacle last season, they’ve beaten the Lions, the Cowboys and the Cardinals …
    Way to keep winning … vikings …
    And … they’re playing for themselves?
    More like, with themselves.

  39. I’d like to ask–when’s the last time any of you worked for a company where all employees liked your boss?
    Who cares? You don’t have to like your boss to produce quality results.
    Let’s all be sure to put extra stock in yet more unidentified sources. Because that is always a well informed decision.

  40. Why, oh, why will Zygi wait until the next loss to fire him????
    With Childress around another lose will come sooner than later, WHY WAIT THAT LONG ZYGI????
    Can him now and give us a chance to win out!!!

  41. Let’s see a Chicago sports writer quoting unnamed players, trying to stir up controversy the week leading up to the Vikings Bears game.
    Brilliant!!!!

  42. # EasyDrinkingBuschLight says: November 10, 2010 9:54 AM
    The issue isn’t about Childress being LIKED, it’s about the team not respecting him and his decision-making. If they don’t trust him or believe he can make the right decisions then they’re less apt to play 100%, or will ad lib on the field because they think they know better.
    Childress has proven time and again that he is an awful game manager and game planner. If your boss at work constantly screws up and puts you in a hole, why would you want to continue to work for him?
    _____________________________
    Well said.
    I will also add that it doesn’t help players respect level for Chilly when he calls out Favre and other players (I think he did this to AP also)several times by name and seems to love to air their lockerroom laundry to the press. I DESPISE Favre…very, very much but that was a total bitch move by Childress. You can’t expect the players to have your back when you don’t have theirs. Even though Favre has (in his passive aggressive way) been pretty public with his distaste for Chilly, Chilly is OSTENSIBLY in the position of authority and should put himself above responding childishly. You as the HC have to set the example, not jump into the fray of bitching and whining.

  43. Curious, why you wouldn’t try to talk to Judd Zulgad, the current beat writer for the Vikings before taking the word of the beat writer for the Vikings next opponent.
    Even if true, there is something to be said for someone afraid to step up, be a man and say what is on their mind. Then again, it is common knowledge that the players and fans alike want Chilly gone, sooner rather than later!
    Oh wait, you did it for site hits, something achieved………
    Come’on son………

  44. For the folks in Minny who hate Brad, whom would you choose? Gruden was fired for cursing at players. Wade Phillips is available. He’d definitely settle down the locker room. How about John Fox when he gets fired? Panthers look outstanding don’t they? Then there’s always Andy Reid who seems to be loathed by the stupidist fan base in America. (I’m an Eagles fan who actually supports Andy – but I’ve been watching the Birds since I was a kid in the 50’s and I remember all the bad coaches.) Maybe the fans in Philly can get him canned. Better still, bring back Mike Tice or Denny Green. Be careful what you wish for in Minnesota. You may get it.

  45. # kinghill says: November 10, 2010 11:43 AM
    For the folks in Minny who hate Brad, whom would you choose? Gruden was fired for cursing at players. Wade Phillips is available. He’d definitely settle down the locker room. How about John Fox when he gets fired? Panthers look outstanding don’t they? Then there’s always Andy Reid who seems to be loathed by the stupidist fan base in America. (I’m an Eagles fan who actually supports Andy – but I’ve been watching the Birds since I was a kid in the 50’s and I remember all the bad coaches.) Maybe the fans in Philly can get him canned. Better still, bring back Mike Tice or Denny Green. Be careful what you wish for in Minnesota. You may get it.
    _________________________________
    I’m sure it will never happen, but I’d be happy with Gruden or Cowher as the next Vikings coach. Beyond that, I’m all for giving Frazier a shot at it.

  46. Bears fan here. I think the Vikings will beat the Bears this weekend, simply because they have more talent. Had they fired Childress this week, I think the Vikings would come out storming on Sunday and absolutely crush the Bears. Keeping Childress and the turmoil around gives the Bears a chance.
    There is no good football reason to keep Childress right now, and this Viking team would immediately rally around Leslie Frazier. The only thing that I can guess is that Wilf has his attorneys combing through Childress’ contract and looking for an out in regards to paying him.

  47. Everywhere I’ve worked there was a group of employees who thought they could do a better job than the boss. You can always find someone who is upset about something. It makes a big difference who these unnamed sources are. If they are a bunch of second and third-stringers who are really upset about playing time and money, who cares? If it’s starters like Ray Edwards, who is upset that he didn’t get a big contract on the basis of the playoff game with Dallas, who cares? But if it’s team guys like Pat Williams or Winfield, that’s a problem. It’s not Peterson. That’s not his style, plus he gave Childress a hug before the Arizona game. Wait! That’s a problem because Childress did get a hug and he never acknowledged it during that infamous press conference. How did Florio miss this?

  48. One of my sources, which wall remain unnamed, told me that Florio has a picture of Favre and Chilly hanging over his bed. This unnamed source also confirmed Florio has 4 locks of Jared Allens hair weaved into his toupee. Furthermore, 3 unnamed sources at NBC have stated that if the Vikings were an non-issue in the NFL then PFT would lose any sort of substance and clicks thus prompting Florio’s termination. Lastly, 2 unnamed sources told me that Florio has no life.

  49. @-z- Awesome quote!
    Here’s another, from Wade’s dad, O.A. “Bum” Phillips… “there are two kinds of coaches… the are the ones that’s been fired, and the ones that are gonna be fired.”

  50. I have to believe that Chilly is on very thin ice &
    I don’t expect him to be the head coach around here next season.
    The winds of change are blowing in Minnesota!

  51. Only in pro sports can the employees get their supervisor/boss fired because they don’t like him. TFB. Show of hands, how many employees like the person(s) they work for? Thought so.

  52. God I love being a Vikings fan!
    This team is too much fun to move, I can’t stand the thought of no more Minnesota Vikings. This is almost as good as prime time television in the late 90’s. And if they start really winning some games and making a playoff push, well, that’ll be just fine too!
    Skol.
    Admit it, all you other fans of the NFL, the Vikings are the most intersting week in and week out. Oh, and everyone hates us too! Ha!

  53. There is no turmoil. Childress has been told by players to stand quietly off to the side and he gets to keep his job.

  54. Its not based upon likes or dislikes. I may like a guy but if the end result is if he isn’t producing up to the expectations that have been set and agreed upon and he has been given the tools to sucede, well its time for him to kick rocks. Identify the problem, come up with solution and implement it. The problem is execution, game planning, management and adjustments. One thing that bothers me is going into the season, Coach Clueless should have recognized the OL problem. Nothing was done. You can have all-pros at all the skill positions but if the blocking ain’t there, there worthless. You have 9 million for a WR for 12 games but you don’t look for OL before and during season. Just one example of bad decisions. You can be a apologist for Clueless all you want, stay focused on the finished product, what you see on game day. It has become a embarrassment. Identified.

  55. Everywhere I’ve worked there was a group of employees who thought they could do a better job than the boss. You can always find someone who is upset about something. It makes a big difference who these unnamed sources are. If they are a bunch of second and third-stringers who are really upset about playing time and money, who cares? If it’s starters like Ray Edwards, who is upset that he didn’t get a big contract on the basis of the playoff game with Dallas, who cares? But if it’s team guys like Pat Williams or Winfield, that’s a problem. It’s not Peterson. That’s not his style, plus he gave Childress a hug before the Arizona game. Wait! That’s a problem because Childress did get a hug and he never acknowledged it during that infamous press conference. How did Florio miss this?

  56. TiceWasBetter says :Admit it, all you other fans of the NFL, the Vikings are the most intersting week in and week out. Oh, and everyone hates us too! Ha!
    ===================================
    Correct! Why do so many people hate the Vikings? Jealousy breeds hate. There are many reasons….
    -Vikings have the most talent in the NFL. AD,Percy,Favre. Says it all…
    -We are always in the news. Tired of our stories and not your teams ?
    -Our owner is the best,opens the wallet for good players.
    -We pick the best in the draft…ROY almost expected from us.
    -MN is the best state in the US. Health,education,jobs,recreation above the rest.
    -Last,but not least, we are very good looking people. Thus the hate from ugly WI residents who are riddled with cellulite and pickled livers…

  57. TiceWasBetter says:
    November 10, 2010 12:39 PM
    God I love being a Vikings fan!
    This team is too much fun to move, I can’t stand the thought of no more Minnesota Vikings. This is almost as good as prime time television in the late 90’s. And if they start really winning some games and making a playoff push, well, that’ll be just fine too!
    Skol.
    Admit it, all you other fans of the NFL, the Vikings are the most intersting week in and week out. Oh, and everyone hates us too! Ha!
    ———–
    Only if by “interesting” you mean funny and/or pathetic.
    And this is not by any means comparable to prime time television in the late 90s. Daytime television (soap operas) in any decade? Yes. But this is almost weirder than an American soap opera. This is like Mexican soap opera stuff. That’s how weird and dysfunctional things are at Winter Park.

  58. There’s a big difference between liking your boss and respecting your boss. I take away from this article that some of the players don’t respect Chilly (“We know that Childress doesn’t have our backs, so why should we have his?”). I can’t respect anyone who would throw me under the bus since that indicates a lack of integrity & character.
    Consequently, I’m not going to like that person very much either. One thing leads to another. But, we don’t know who the complaining players are. Maybe they are bitter 3rd stringers who never see the field? Not that they are any less believable. But that would make them more likely to air the dirty locker room laundry even though it’s anonymously.

  59. I’m not a Childress fan. I hope the Vikings have a new coach next year. But this anonymous sourcing to stir the pot is ridiculous.

  60. A lot of people don’t like their bosses but they keep on working! Imagine if you or I talked about out bosses that way. We’d be looking for another job. Not these high paid whiny babies.

  61. slegeir says:
    November 10, 2010 2:45 PM
    To Pervey Harvin: You are one mixed up person!
    ===================================
    Please call me sir. Yes,I am very mixed up …and confused. Can’t decide wether to pop a brewski or just start hammering the vodka..

  62. The sooner they get rid of Childress, the more inspired the players will play. I’m griping about his play call ability, not his people skills. The man screwed up just before half time in the Packer and Patriots game. With 20 secs, took a knee at mid field. At the Patriots, had a chance to take the lead, instead went for it on 4th and 1 and came up short. Total stupidity. Not too many other NFL coaches would have done that.

  63. Pervy *Harvin* says:
    November 10, 2010 3:05 PM
    slegeir says:
    November 10, 2010 2:45 PM
    To Pervey Harvin: You are one mixed up person!
    ==================== ===============
    Please call me sir. Yes,I am very mixed up …and confused. Can’t decide wether to pop a brewski or just start hammering the vodka..
    ==========
    Sir Pervy, as a Bears fan you drive me nuts with your worship of the Puple…but damn! You crack me up sometimes!! Classic! (choose the vodka…)

  64. NoRingsForYou says:
    November 10, 2010 7:53 AM
    The best word to describe that organization is hapless.
    ———————————————
    …mix in the small town realities with big city dreams and you get “Minihapless.”

  65. I knew you wouldn’t let this die after the 8-10 stories you pushed through last week trying to move this story. Good on you Florio, way to show pluck and preserverence, even if it is just in an effort to impose your opinion on your readers.

  66. snarkygurl68……ok,even though you are a Bear fan I will take your advice(even though I was already pounding shooters.)You see, I’m in a wild relationship with Grey Goose…and it’s getting very complicated.The good news is,my Grandmother is over eighty and still doesn’t need glasses. Drinks right out of the bottle…

  67. Pervy *Harvin* says:
    November 10, 2010 1:48 PM
    TiceWasBetter says :Admit it, all you other fans of the NFL, the Vikings are the most intersting week in and week out. Oh, and everyone hates us too! Ha!
    ==================== ===============
    Correct! Why do so many people hate the Vikings? Jealousy breeds hate. There are many reasons….
    -Vikings have the most talent in the NFL. AD,Percy,Favre. Says it all…
    -We are always in the news. Tired of our stories and not your teams ?
    -Our owner is the best,opens the wallet for good players.
    -We pick the best in the draft…ROY almost expected from us.
    -MN is the best state in the US. Health,education,job s,recreation above the rest.
    -Last,but not least, we are very good looking people. Thus the hate from ugly WI residents who are riddled with cellulite and pickled livers…
    ===================================
    -The Vikings are always in the news because they have the most talent, have a diva QB, a coaching mess, and are 3-5. It’s like reporting on a train wreck.
    -You’re owner is not the best. 0 Super Bowls, Childress is your coach, and you play in one of the worst venues in professional sports.
    – Other good looking people from Minnesota- Louie Anderson, Garrison Keillor, Bob Dylan, Bob Lurtsema, Jesse Ventura, Viva and Jerry.

  68. frank booth says:Other good looking people from Minnesota- Louie Anderson, Garrison Keillor, Bob Dylan, Bob Lurtsema, Jesse Ventura, Viva and Jerry.
    ===================================Not bad Yoda LOL

  69. I’m a Packer fan, and even I have to admit this is kind of a misleading story.
    Some Packer players under Lombardi hated his guts. Lots of players on teams hate their head coach. It’s part of the game. If you a good HC, you won’t be loved by all 53 players.

  70. Pervy *Harvin* says:
    November 10, 2010 6:58 PM
    frank booth says:Other good looking people from Minnesota- Louie Anderson, Garrison Keillor, Bob Dylan, Bob Lurtsema, Jesse Ventura, Viva and Jerry.
    ==================== ===============Not bad Yoda LOL
    ===================================
    I do need to be careful what I say about Minnesotan’s looks since I did marry a girl from Bloomington, MN.

  71. #
    frank booth says: Nov 10, 2010 10:01 PM

    Pervy *Harvin* says:
    November 10, 2010 6:58 PM
    frank booth says:Other good looking people from Minnesota- Louie Anderson, Garrison Keillor, Bob Dylan, Bob Lurtsema, Jesse Ventura, Viva and Jerry.
    ==================== ===============Not bad Yoda LOL
    ===================================
    I do need to be careful what I say about Minnesotan’s looks since I did marry a girl from Bloomington, MN.
    _________________________
    frank booth, how can a bear, packer, or lion fan marry a mud hen? i hope she isnt a viking fan?

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