Roddy White admits to pass interference on game-winning play

On one hand, a penalty is a penalty only if a penalty is called.

On the other hand, if a guy admits to a committing a penalty that wasn’t called, plenty of people will think it was a penalty.

That’s precisely what Falcons receiver Roddy White did after Thursday night’s thrilling come-from-behind-after-blowing-a-double-digit-lead win.  On the decisive play, it appeared that White shoved Ravens defensive back Josh Wilson.  With Wilson out of the way and no help over the top, White caught a pass at the Baltimore 19 and sauntered into the end zone.

White admits that he got away with one.

“Yeah, you’ve got to do whatever you’ve got to do to win,” White said, per the Associated Press.  “It was one-on-one coverage with one guy.  But he was kind of flat-footed, and he tried to grab me, so I just pushed him down.”

Though Ravens fans rightfully should feel that their team was ripped off, the reality is that a Ray Lewis-led defense has no business allowing a team to march right down the field after Baltimore pulled ahead by a point with only 65 seconds to play, with or without an interference penalty that wasn’t called.

UPDATE:  White has responded to our item, via Twitter.  “I would never admit to pass interference and it’s only interference when they call it,” White said.  We stand corrected.  He didn’t admit to pass interference.  He only admitting to pushing Wilson down.

90 responses to “Roddy White admits to pass interference on game-winning play

  1. Notice he said “he tried to grab me”. So if a smaller DB tries to commit a penalty (defensive holding) and is overpowered in the act of committing said penalty by a more physical WR, the WR should be penalized?

  2. Watching him jump up and down, and plead his case, and beg the official for a flag, like a 4 year old brought back memories of Bart Scott’s epic meltdown against the Pats in 2007…..does the Ravens coaching staff teach that crap? Or maybe that is the type of thing the front office looks for during pre draft research. The Dolphins, for example, ask a player about his prostitute mom, and the Ravens ask him to perform his best impression of a 4 year old throwing a tantrum, to demonstrate his reaction when a call goes against him….

  3. ckeltner – actually not. Move them back 10 yards and they are at the 43, which is probably out of field goal range.

  4. Falcons got every zebra call their way last night and won because of it.

    In addition to this horrible non-call, the Ravens were earlier called for a facemask when the replay showed a Falcon player ALSO facemasking.

    That was on a 3rd down, so the ref gaffe kept yet another scoring drive alive.

  5. Wonder if the league will send a public apology ala the way they did their beloved Steelers? Even though the missed call caused the Ravens the game. Doubt it.

    They feared the missed payment at the end of the month from the Steal City. If the Ravens want the same treatment… They know what to do.

  6. I thought the ending to the script was acted out the way it was supposed too. Didn’t everybody hear the narrators all night? Who was surprised by the ending?

  7. I’ll quote the NFL rules on this to help everyone understand what is a penalty and what is not.

    Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

    (a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

    ( b ) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

    ( c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

    Actions that do not constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

    (a) Incidental contact by a receiver’s hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball or neither player is looking for the ball.

    ( b ) Inadvertent touching of feet when both players are playing the ball or neither player is playing the ball.

    ( c ) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the ball is clearly uncatchable by involved players.

    Note 1: If there is any question whether player contact is incidental, the ruling should be no interference.
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    Note that Roddy says ‘he tried to grab me’. He did not initiate the contact. The defender did, and it was past the 5 yard line. Defensive PI.

  8. ckeltner says:
    Nov 12, 2010 2:36 PM
    They were still in FG range for the win anyways

    ——-

    Falcons were at the 33…add the offensive pass interference and they are out of range with 2o seconds left

  9. It looked like the shove happened before the ball was in the air. Is that still PI? It would be illegal contact if it was a defender shoving a receiver before the ball was thrown, but what if it is an offensive player initiating contact?

  10. Game is over. Falcons won. Congrats you earned it.

    Ravens fought back but came up short. Poop happens. Ryan is 18-1 at home. Chalk it up as a tough loss. Time to move on.

    Next week Carolina.

    GO RAVENS!!!

  11. ckeltner says:
    Nov 12, 2010 2:36 PM
    They were still in FG range for the win anyways
    _____________________________

    So were the Saints when they were playing the Falcons…

  12. Watch the replay, the DB was off balance before the push so his falling down was really an extension on his losing his balance. Still, he acted like he got robbed, an act worthy of being a Viking, a team that really has been robbed.

  13. Actually, the penalty would have knocked ’em back a bit, brother-man.

    No matter. It wasn’t called, so hats off to to Mr. White. Take what you get.

  14. That certainly wasn’t the only questionable call that drive or the game for that matter. What a coincidence that the Ravens have game-changing calls go against them from Ron Winter’s crew. Last time the Ravens saw him it was against Tom “Take off Your Skirt” Brady and the Patriots when Brady called his own flags. I’m not like a lot of Ravens fans who think there is a conspiracy Lethe refs hate them, just Ron Winter and his geriatric crew.

  15. a) They were pretty much in FG range anyways.
    b) The Ravens are pretty much blaming themselves for the loss. This is one game where they probably blame themselves than the Falcons for the loss.

  16. Wilson initiated the contact. All White did was use a one arm swim move to get around him on the route. If that little move takes a man to the ground he had to be off balance to start with. No way that was pass interference.

  17. Exactly. Atlanta was going to win with a field goal one way or another. It’s not like the pass interference (or lack of getting called) was going to affect the outcome of the game. The play started at the 33 yard line. Even if the interference call had been made, it would only have marched the Falcons back 10 yards (to the Baltimore 43), and it would have been first down and 20.

    The fact is…with 20 seconds left, a full set of downs, one timeout left (the Falcons didn’t take their final timeout until after the TD) and really only needing to get to the 35-yard line, there was still plenty of opportunity to get in position to score and still win the game. That the interference penalty wasn’t called did NOT change the outcome.

  18. Ravens never lose, just ask them. The referees are out to get them or the other team played with knives or shanks.

  19. What about the “he tried to grab me part”??? They were way beyond 5 yards downfield and Wilson attempted to hold. Where is the flag on the Ravens????

  20. It is a lot easier to pull off that drive when you get a 33 yard touchdown pass as a result of the penalty. If the refs make the call it would have been 1st and 20 from the Baltimore 43 yard line with 27 seconds left. While there is no guarantee that the Falcons would not have gained the 10 yards back and made a long FG, it is still tough to criticize a team for allowing a quick 80 yard TD drive when it got a big help from the missed call in the title of the post.

  21. I’ll take Make Up Call for $100 Alex!

    If you watched the previous play, Ryan tried to find Tony Gonzalez over the middle and was absolutely mugged by Ravens ILB Tavares Gooden (#56 in your program).

    Josh Wilson also acted like he was shot by an archer. Stop with all that non-sense!

    Great win by the Falcons!

  22. that was the 2nd massive push off by White at the end of the game. I’m not even a Falcons fan and I thought those two no-calls were ridiculous.

  23. The TD was 33 yards, that would’ve been a 50 yard FG…IF offensive PI was called, it could have been a 60 yarder.
    But I digress…

  24. Florio–

    You Sir are a bonafide idiot.

    I am no Ravens fan at all but your comment about the “Ray Lewis led defense has no business allowing a 65 yard drive…” is just plain stupid.

    A football game is not won or lost on “drives” but on specific PLAYS. The official should be severely disciplined for not making the correct call. This is just the latest example of the god awful state of officiating in the NFL.

    You can always look back in time and second guess and critique. Sports is about what happens in the moment–the crucial game turning play.

    Most NFL games come down to 5-7 plays; they can be be plays that are made/not made offensively, defensively or with teams. Unfortunately, the “other” factor also remains; the boneheaded official gaffe play {See Hochuli v. Chargers and the offensive interference last night}.

    As a lawyer, you ought to understand the concept of the “poison fruit from the poison tree.”

    C’mon Florio.

  25. no outrage over the pass interference that Josh Wilson was committing at the same time?

  26. The penalty yardage for an offensive pass interference penalty would have taken them out of FG range though. They were on the 33 and it would have been a 10 yard penalty, moving them to the 43….not in field goal range.

  27. Watching last night’s game was interesting because I dislike both the Falcons and Ravens intensely. The outcome made me realize that I dislike the Falcons less than I dislike the Ravens.

  28. @ckeltner
    They were at the 33 yard line. Add 10 yards for the PI, they are at the 43. If they don’t make another yard (they would have had about 15 secs and 1 Time Out), you are talking about a 60 yard FG for Matt Bryant. I think Baltimore would have been happy if they had that scenario. I wouldn’t call a 60 yarder “FG range” for most kickers.

  29. ckeltner says:
    Nov 12, 2010 2:36 PM
    They were still in FG range for the win anyways

    Yeah but the penalty for offensive PI would have moved them back and possibly made the FG attempt that much harder.

  30. Star WRs will always get the calls over noname DBs.

    It’s happened so many times this season it is ridiculous. I know the NFL likes high scoring games because they’re exciting, but some of these calls or non calls are ridiculous.

  31. They were still in FG range for the win anyways
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    Not if the 15 yard PI was called. I think that is the point. They called a very weak PI on the play before. Should go both ways, but the Falcons got lucky once again.

  32. So many times, fans point to one play and scream, “We got screwed. What a bad call. We should’ve won the game.” However, like you said Mike, the defense shouldn’t have allowed Atlanta to move down the field and even get in that position.

    Furthermore, they had 2 turnovers earlier in the game. Atlanta still put up 20 points aside from this one play.

    Bad calls happen, it sucks. Get over it. Next time, don’t get down by 13 to a team in their home where they are almost unbeatable. Don’t let them throw a perfect bench route. Don’t let White catch another pass. Don’t get a PI call on Tony Gonzalez. Etc….

  33. I would hardly call this admitting to pass interference. Technically, yes, he did push off, but this is never going to be called. If you have a defensive player trying to grab a receiver and the receiver is pushing back, half the time its going to be called defensive pass interference, the other half nothing will be called at all. This was exactly the case.

  34. Hard to feel sorry for the Ravens when I keep having flashbacks to a play clock hitting zero on Flacco, a couple more seconds going by, and he still doesn’t called for delay of game before converting a key third down pass late in the fourth quarter.

    Of a divisional playoff game. To help set up a game-winning FG.

    Sometimes, the no-calls also go the Ravens’ way.

  35. This is such a non-issue. First of all, if Wilson wouldn’t have gone down faster than a bag of dirt, no one would have even questioned it. Either Roddy White has superhuman strength to be able to pull down another athlete that easily with one hand and not eveing facing the defender, or Wilson simply got burned or flopped to try and get the call.

    And second, anyone who watched the game could easily see that even if a bad call was made against White, Atlanta still had the time, timeouts, and momentum to get another 20 yards to kick the gimmie figgie from Bryant.

  36. Well, the Ravens only won the Super Bowl because of a phanton defensive holding penalty that was called.

    Payback is a bitch Baltimore.

  37. The PI would’ve pushed them out of FG range to the 43, which is roughly a 61-yard FG. Though they would’ve still had 20ish seconds to get closer, who know what would’ve happened. On that drive alone, they needed a fingertip “catch” and a defensive PI to convert on 3rd down.

  38. I’d love to know what beer goggles those who think Wilson hit White first are looking out of. Watch the replay. In high-def. Sober. Wilson moves to make contact but NEVER DOES. White puts his right arm on Wilson’s shoulder and shoves him down.

  39. They were still in FG range for the win anyways
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    Well, for some folks, a FG wouldn’t have made the game “over”. A touchdown sure did!

  40. “This is such a non-issue. First of all, if Wilson wouldn’t have gone down faster than a bag of dirt, no one would have even questioned it. Either Roddy White has superhuman strength to be able to pull down another athlete that easily with one hand and not eveing facing the defender, or Wilson simply got burned or flopped to try and get the call.”
    —————————————————-
    2 weeks ago in the Dallas-Minnesota game, Miles Austin did the same thing as White (knocked over a CB as he went into his break) and was called for PI. It doesn’t take a lot of strength to knock someone down when their momentum is headed in one direction and you redirect it unexpectedly. Especially when there is a tremendous size difference, as there is between White and Wilson. How

  41. “This is such a non-issue. First of all, if Wilson wouldn’t have gone down faster than a bag of dirt, no one would have even questioned it. Either Roddy White has superhuman strength to be able to pull down another athlete that easily with one hand and not eveing facing the defender, or Wilson simply got burned or flopped to try and get the call.”
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    2 weeks ago in the Dallas-Minnesota game, Miles Austin did the same thing as White (knocked over a CB as he went into his break) and was called for PI. It doesn’t take a lot of strength to knock someone down when their momentum is headed in one direction and you redirect it unexpectedly. Especially when there is a tremendous size difference, as there is between White and Wilson.

  42. @bobulated:

    Happens to Randy Moss 4-5 time a year.

    In fact, I’d be willing to wager 90% of all offenseive PIs are called against Randy Moss. I’m no Moss apologist, but he sure gets a lot of calls.

  43. Dont complain fans of any team , everyone is having to endure what is without a doubt the worst year of officiating Iv,e seen in 30 years of watching any professional sport…

  44. Everybody keeps saying the PI penalty would have moved them out of field goal range. This may be true, but it was STILL first down, the Falcons STILL had 1 timeout left, and the clock still had 27-seconds left. As well as Matt Ryan had thrown the entire game, I’m hard pressed to believe he wouldn’t have been able to make 1 or 2 throws to get them BACK in field goal range and stop the clock with their last TO with plenty of time to make the field goal. I mean, it was still first down. Incompletions stop the clock, and I guarantee you the Ravens would have been JUST stupid enough to dial up a blitz, which *by the way* Ryan was reading like a first grade primer ALL NIGHT, leaving the middle of the field WIDE OPEN for Tony Gonzales to make a big play to put them back into field goal range and then some.

    These folks who think that PI call could have ended the Falcons drive are clearly reacting with revisionist history of how the game was playing out.

    And let’s be honest, if they’d caught White doing it, they’d have surely caught Wilson doing it (the replay clearly shows him holding White, too). Those two penalties would have off-set each other and they’d have replayed first down with no change in the spot of the ball.

    It was not a game-changer folks. The Ravens were already doomed.

  45. All I know was I couldn’t stand listening to Joe Theismann last night. He was obnoxious and anytime Bob or Millen had a counterpoint or disagreed with him he sounded like a two year old who couldn’t have another piece of candy. I really don’t think I’ll be watching another NFLN game if he’s providing commentary.

  46. kd75 says:
    Nov 12, 2010 3:31 PM
    Well, the Ravens only won the Super Bowl because of a phanton defensive holding penalty that was called.

    Payback is a bitch Baltimore.
    ===================================
    I remember that. It caused the Giants to lose by 27 points.

    Idiot.

  47. Note that Roddy says ‘he tried to grab me’. He did not initiate the contact. The defender did, and it was past the 5 yard line. Defensive PI.
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    Note Roddy says “he tried to grab me”. He never said “he did grab me”.

    Just like you try to hook up with hot chicks and never do.

    You can not push off end of story. Should have been a flag.

  48. Wow another game decided by a zebra. When are they going to get younger refs with 20/20. Now we here Atlanta is going to the SB. Come on they should have lost that game. If baltimore didnt have to play against Atlanta and the refs. Take it easy on the SB talk. They would not even have been in that Position to win if it wasnt for the ridiculous bad call on Suggs in the fourth when they both had a hand full of facemask. Horrible!

  49. Lets have 2 super bowls this year. One for the winner as always, then a second one for the Ravens. The NFL could give it to them and say sorry for all of the times you have been screwed over. Please accept this and forgive us….

    Who wants to bet they would take it and say its about time.

  50. kd75
    Well, the Ravens only won the Super Bowl because of a phanton defensive holding penalty that was called.
    ————————————————-
    Um 34-7, so that one play accounted for 27 points???

    Do you have any clue what you are talking about???

  51. I would just like to be the 1,000,000th person to say that the offensive pass interference call would have moved them out of field goal range (assuming they didn’t also call the defensive pass interference).

    So, Florio, what’s my prize. I hope it’s a pony. Dear God, please let it be a pony.

  52. I would just like to be the 1,000,000th person to say that the offensive pass interference call would have moved them out of field goal range (assuming they didn’t also call the defensive pass interference).

    So, Florio, what’s my prize? I hope it’s a pony. Dear God, please let it be a pony.

  53. Cant agree with you jim. From that point the falcons looked doomed. Roddy dropping balls should have had a PI called on him. Still had to get back into field goal range with less than 30 seconds on the ravens defense and make the kick. They had a chance but they make the right call then Atlanta looks doomed. Baltimore got robbed.

  54. It was not a game-changer folks. The Ravens were already doomed.
    —————————————————-

    Fumble, INT, missed FG, blocked FG. Any of these can happen at any time. And many have happened in situations like this, where you think there’s no way they’re gonna lose.

    Atlanta probably does still win, but we’ll never know due to the lack of a flag on blatant OPI. I’ve seen far, far less called. But White never gets called for it so what else is new. I’m guessing Michael Irvin has taught him all the tricks because he gets away with blatant OPI all the time.

    It was a game-changer because it turned what would’ve been a potential loss for Baltimore into a guaranteed-unless-they-pull-the-Music-City-Miracle-out-of-their-ass loss.

  55. Nevis says: Nov 12, 2010 2:45 PM

    “Falcons got every zebra call their way last night and won because of it.”

    Why do Ravens fans never want to acknowledge calls that went their way?

    How about Reed driving a forearm into Ryan’s head after he slid? Let’s talk about that…

  56. kd75 says:
    Nov 12, 2010 3:31 PM
    Well, the Ravens only won the Super Bowl because of a phanton defensive holding penalty that was called.

    Payback is a bitch Baltimore.

    Wow.
    I’m a Giants fan and even I think that comment is ridiculous.

  57. How about Reed driving a forearm into Ryan’s head after he slid? Let’s talk about that…
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    You mean when Ryan slid as Reed was diving to tackle him? You mean when Reed was trying to avoid him? If you slide late and crooked, you’re going to get hit.

  58. that exactly the problem of fans on pro sports today. fans want the players and coaches by their stupid decisions to SOLELY decide who wins or loses or gains momentum of each game BUT their commisioners of all these pro sports want the refs to do that job – of course knowing how to make the game be in dout to the very end thus avoiding the poor ratings of tv tuenoffs in blowouts happening. not one pro sport today ever routinely ended the way all of them do today. players the same. baskets last minute could take a half hour. hockey invented shootouts. baseball invent ok its now the 6th or 7th inning of this 1-1 game time to send in the worst 6 or 7 pitchers on the team – middle relief – yeah right – and presto balls being hit all over the place , hockey invents taking shots on goalie
    and nfl tells its coaches if you have a big lead in 3rd quarter or later do not milk the clock,- keep your star qb in there even if he could get injured afterall we let you rest him and stiff your team in week 17 sometimes 16 too. and have that qb kepp lobbing the ball up for grabs so it could create the needed turnover or clock stoppage to save the other team some time for their planned comeback to hold on to that audience.

    other guys – sportsmen not entertainment promoters built the nfl – this is no longer a sport for them it is pure entertainment – show business. welcome to the future.

  59. LMAO at bitter raven fans. If anything the Ravens got the calls. On the play that roddy dropped the pass on third down, IT CLEARLY SHOW GONZALES BEING HORSECOLLARED.

    If that was correctly called, the falcons get a first down and kneel on the ball. Game over- Falcons win 20 to 13.

  60. AFC Baltimorons = the NFC Dallas Crybabies
    They cry and cry and cry and blame everybody else. Never have I seen such whining. You let the Falcons go right down the field. It should have never got to that. In addition, last night we only got one shi**y view of the call. Please STFU about the no call. The Ray Lewis led defense let Atlanta march right on down the field.

    Next time come up in here and cry about a call that went your way and ask the NFL office to reverse the call so you wont benifit from any lucky calls. Then you can get off your high horse and come down to earth and play ball where officals and players are not perfect.

  61. The comments about the Ravens D are absurd. Last week the Steelers got rolled in the 4th quarter by Cincy. Harrison made a play on the what – 3 yard line to stop the final drive. One play. They could not stop them driving down the field, same as here. One week you make the play the next week you don’t.

    Nobody is dominant. Games are close, one play, one call going your way or not.

  62. @ Florio’s Lawyer; when a qb runs he is a runner and Ryan did not give himself up in time. @ckeltner ; field goal range would’nt matter. the penalty would have moved them out of range and the clock run off would have ended the game.

  63. While I agree with the sentiment that the Ravens defense shouldn’t have allowed Atlanta to even get close to a touchdown, it’s kind of hard to say that they “let” them go down the field, considering that there were 3 bad calls on that single drive that all helped Atlanta move the ball. Or did they decide to call faskmasks on the guy being facemasked and I’m just unaware?

  64. It was not called so that the Steelers would be leading the division (no, I don’t really believe that – just thought I’d say it before some conspiracy theorist did).

  65. At 4:14 of this video you see Gonzo getting held from behind. Reggie Bush gets this call, the falcons do not. If this was called correctly Falcons win 20-13. Maybe the NFL just wants thier games to be filled with drama and fantastic finishes. Either way, the Ravens have NOTHING to complain about.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81c0d972/Ravens-vs-Falcons-highlights

    P.S. I love that a raider fan actually said that another team wasnt impressive. lol The Raiders are a team that got their asses handed to them by the 49ers

  66. ckeltner says:
    Nov 12, 2010 2:36 PM
    They were still in FG range for the win anyways
    ——————————

    The penalty would have put them farther back and they were only in fieldgoal range because of a previous penalty that was a bogus call also. a PI should only be called if the ball was catchable. Pass intended for Gonzalez on 3rd and 10, they may have still made a fieldgoal even on that play but it would have been a longer fieldgoal, they would have only been up by 2 points and more time would have been on the clock.

  67. The reason I say it was a bogus call was first both players were playing the ball, second the ball was over a yard of of their reach so it wasn’t catchable even if there was no contact.

  68. @mvpnis
    Wow, where to start? Well, the little bit you can see of Gonzo at that point…it sure didn’t look like a hold from behind to me (maybe if I was a Falcon fan it would look that way). Anyway, if he was contacted it was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage…perfectly legal to make contact in that area. I mean, that wasn’t even close to holding.
    And I’m sorry, I don”t want games called so their is “drama and fantastic finishes”. I want them called arbitrarily and objectively. If you want to make sure you see fantastic finishes and drama, go watch the WWE.

  69. again @ mvpnis
    I see earlier you said that the video “CLEARLY SHOWS GONZALES BEING HORSECOLLARED”. First off, a horsecollar is a TACKLE. A tackle is when someone goes to the ground. Since Gonzales finished that play on his feet and well away from the defender, it is very obvious that Gonzales was not CLEARLY HORSECOLLARED. Horsecollar does not consist of a defender bumping a receiver within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

    I have no vested interest in this game, but you obviously do. But please TRY to be realistic, OK?

    P.S. Thanks for providing the link to the video and telling me exactly where to find the “horsecollar”.

  70. OK, mvpnis, I’m going to try this one more time. Try and keep up.
    You can bump the receiver (in this case Gonzalez) within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. The defender did not put his hand on the back of his jersey until AFTER Roddy White had dropped the ball (you can see on the video you provided us the link to). At NO POINT was Gonzalez tackled (so no Horsecollar). Gonzalez NEVER got more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage, so no Illegal Contact, and he was NEVER HELD. The defender is allowed to put his hand on his back (within 5 yards), and by the time he did, the play was already over (White had dropped the ball).
    If you sill refuse to understand what the rules are here, maybe its time to pick another sport (like shuffleboard…something easy).

  71. Yeah, Stevie Wonder here DID see the video. Did you READ the rules? I’m guessing not. A Horsecollar is a TACKLE! What part of the word “TACKLE” do you not understand?!?!

    “All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Previously, the “horse-collar” tackle rule did not include the back of the shoulder pads or jersey. This increases the scope of the rule. Penalty: Loss of 15 yards”

    That’s from :

    http://profootball.scout.com/2/556118.html

    NFL Rulebook buddy. Know it, learn it, live it.

    See the part where it says “AND immediately pulling down the runner”? A defender’s hand inadvertantly going inside a receiver’s collar IS NOT a penalty…TACKLING (also known as “getting them down to the ground”) WITH A HORSECOLLAR is a PENALTY.

    Could you please point out to me where Gonzales is pulled down in that video? Go ahead, watch it again, I’ll be waiting.

  72. That “horsecollar” might would have been a hold if he had caught the ball, outside of that, no issue.

    Either way, I was there, we won, & it was awesome.

  73. mvpnis says: Nov 13, 2010 10:29 AM

    Did you see the video, stevie wonder? he was held and horcollared.

    ——————————————————

    *shakes head*

    You really should’ve listened to me. You sound like a fool.

    To make this as simple as possible, Gonzalez’s jersey was held for what appeared to be a split second, in slow motion instant replay for that matter. At no point was he tackled, dragged to the ground, etc.. Hence, no “horsecollar”. I don’t know what the hell you think a horsecollar actually is, but it’s definitely NOT what you’re thinking.

  74. Hey, Sunday, I think we are really beating our heads against a wall here.

    Some people just prefer to go through life stupid. I do believe that “mvpnis” is probably about as old/mature as his name would indicate.

  75. Pass interference or not, Wilson was clearly out of position, and either he needs to improve or the Ravens need to find somebody to replace him, cause he’s a serious liability.

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