League moving closer to L.A. return

Fifteen years after the Raiders and Rams vacated Los Angeles, the league is moving closer to a return.

We’ve been posting from time to time stories regarding the two stadium projects in L.A. — Ed Roski’s “if they come, we will build it” proposal in City of Industry and the Casey Wasserman/Tim Leiweke downtown digs.

Peter King of SI.com and NBC reports that, once the labor situation is resolved, the league will “get cracking” on bringing a team back to L.A., with the Wasserman/Leiweke project being the preferred option.

King speculates that the Chargers, or maybe the Raiders, would be the primary candidates to move back to L.A.  (Each franchise once was headquartered there.)

Any team without a long-term stadium solution could be in the mix, including the Vikings and, in time, the Rams, another former L.A. team.

38 responses to “League moving closer to L.A. return

  1. With the current economic situation in California, there is absolutely no way that any team outside the state will move to L.A. I realize that it is the second largest market but Los Angeles has consistently proved to be apathetic towards supporting any NFL team. A brand new stadium that will be 1/2 empty is hardly a selling point. If the Chargers wind up moving, maybe the fans in San Diego could actually see home games on TV more often

  2. I’m a Vikes fan and I hope they move to LA.

    Don’t live in Minnesota and don’t care about the states money issues.

    If you can’t afford a NFL team then tell them you have no interest in keeping the team. Yes I know about these billionaire owners wanting you to pay for the stadium. Still don’t care about you and your state. Make a decision ASAP.

  3. How can the rams be in the conversation? They just moved from LA 15 years ago. What the hell is going in here? They can only get 15 years out of a stadium? How is that possible? Especially considering how much it costs to build one. What a waste.

  4. FinFan68 you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You must not be from California. There are 10 million people in the greater Los Angeles area alone. The stadium would never, ever be half full. All of our sporting events here sell out on a regular basis.

  5. I am a Chargers fan and live in San Diego but wouldn’t be that heart broken if the Chargers lose as I can’t really afford to go to that many games.

    Not to mention LA is not THAT far away, so if I decided to go to a game or 2 I wouldn’t mind the 2 hour drive. Especially since Qualcomm is horrible when it comes to traffic so it usually takes me close to 2 hours to go to and from a game anyways

  6. @pigpen

    LA has had two NFL teams. They had the Rams and the Raiders, and for whatever reason they couldn’t keep those two teams in LA. I believe attendance is part of the equation. Everything can’t be blamed on stadium issues alone.

    The reason I am not mentioning the Chargers, is because they were an AFL team when they first started out in LA, not an NFL team.

    IMO, at some point in time the NFL is going to lose all of their leverage when it comes to building stadiums. The fans at some point are going to say no to the NFL. I believe they will start refusing to help fund any of the stadiums.

  7. As a long suffering Bengals fan I was holding out hope that Mike Brown would sell the team to an owner who would hire a GM who would pick good players, hire good coaches and move the team to LA. That way I could watch all of the games on TV and travel to the west coast a couple of times a year to see games. Now all of my hopes have been dashed.

  8. Yea there must be something wrong with LA. What was the reason they kicked the Rams and Raiders out? If it wasn’t the attendance. Is it the team colors? I watch dodger games and I never see the stands full even with playoff implications. I don’t see this happening for a while. The NFL has balanced divisions and LA has failed twice already.

  9. PLEASE PLEASE send the raider down there.. can you take their fans in a package deal? The bay area would be a much better place to live in without them :), crime would go down by 50%! !! hahaha

  10. Vikings and Lakers have the same colors…it’s a match!!! Wonder if Favre will be playing in LA??

  11. florio why do you keep beating this dead horse nobody but you and the league care about a team in la. the people there don’t or they would not have let the 2 teams they had go. spare me your excuses as to why they left the fact is they left. I can see the next team that moves there leaving after the excitement of having a team dies down after about 5 years and people stop going to games and after 10 when the owner demands a new stadium. and just because people do not like being blackmailed into paying for a new stadium does not mean people don’t deserve a team. it just means they have their priorities straight about spending money. why should they make billionaire owners richer when there is no more money to pay for cops and teachers?2 things that are more important than wasting money on a football team.

  12. When the time comes for this to happen, the Vikings will still be digging out of the massive hole Brad Childress has put the franchise in. The NFL better pray the new LA team isn’t coming from Minnesota.

    The team that seems to make the most sense now is the Chargers. They already can’t sell out their games, their management is classless enough to pull up stakes and leave, and the cost of getting out of their current lease goes down with every passing year. The Chargers already have a fan base in LA and they’re a decent enough team that they won’t turn off LA fans by moving in and sucking for five years. The move would also be the best-case scenario for keeping the current division alignments.

    It’d suck for San Diego fans, but they need to pull a Jacksonville and start showing up to games if they want to keep the team.

  13. If the Vikings move to Los Angeles they can join the other former Minnesota team (Lakers) in being totally out of place with their name and colors.

    Better yet, lets ship the Vikings to London (and take the Lakers with you).

    I heard Buffalo is looking for an NFL team.

  14. Not a real big fan of anything California for a million or so reasons. I’d recommend to the NFL to relocate an existing California team to L.A. if it firmly believes that L.A. will support the team. I do not.

    Anyhow, that way when the big quake comes, and it is coming, at most only three teams will be disrupted and 2 games on that particular weekend. What happened in 1989 during the World Series was but a small sample of what is to come and real warning. According to many experts I’ll live to see it.

    As to public stadium funding, I can’t see how in this new era of fiscal austerity that many populations are going vote “YEA” on a proposition to spend hundreds of millions on these things when the infrastructure is in serious decay.

  15. Let the Vikes go to LA, and have them swap divisions.

    I’d suggest that the Panthers and Cowboys swap divisions, as there are seven teams east of Dallas that aren’t even in the East, but that would just be too dumb for me to say.

    Oh wait… crap.

  16. ninerdynasty says: Nov 15, 2010 1:07 PM

    PLEASE PLEASE send the raider down there.. can you take their fans in a package deal? The bay area would be a much better place to live in without them 🙂 , crime would go down by 50%! !! hahaha
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    Whiner fan, before you cast the RAIDERS off you better worry about Jed York. He may have eyes for LA too since it will be a cold day in hell before that billion-dollar Whiner stadium is built in Santa Clara.

  17. @FinFan68

    You do know that the Lakers came from Minnesota to LA right? And since when has the NFL cared about the “economic” climate. Have you seen a decrease in season tickets, single game day tickets or the NFL Ticket on Directv?

  18. i love how some people are actually supporting the LA market…..I remember blacked out raiders games when they were in LA.

    For the market to have 10 million people and still have blacked out games is absolutely unnacceptable. I can’t beleive the NFL would want to alienate an entire fanbase just to try and make this mistake all over again.

    LA is not an NFL town….maybe it used to be, but this year is not a good year to compare fan loyalty and ticket sales….The teams in California should get a pass because California and it’s residents are broke.

  19. @allgreenbay
    Yes, most sports fans are aware that the lakers moved from minnesota…a long time ago, back when California wasn’t quite so bad. The NFL may not care about the economic climate but only a moron would think that a business owner doesn’t. Cali has ridiculous taxes, zero fiscal responsibility, and no care to attempt to fix it. There is no way that the people of LA are going to be supportive of even more taxes geared at publically funding a high-priced stadium. No owner/CEO of a billion dollar business would think about moving to California. Wake up and take a look around. The NFL has been touting an increase in TV viewership (on the “free” games) while actual attendance is down across the board.

  20. As long as the Raiders get the new stadium they’ve been promised for the last 20 years…

  21. If the RAIDERS could go home then the Chargers can too. For the record, I want to retire to San Diego but I would rather see the Chargers in Los Angeles County than the RAIDERS leaving Alameda County again. Now if the league can get KC to return to Dallas and the Titans return to Houston then the NFL will have the AFL back in their original cities of birth.

  22. Florio is just toting the NBC company line with this constant beating of a dead horse NFL to LA crap. No one west of the Arizona state line gives a tinkers damn about the NFL moving back to LA. That experiment has failed not one, Not twice, But three times already. Let it go Florio, The state of California is on the verge of bankruptcy, Taxes are sky high in that state as is unemployment and the folks out there are concentrating on just surviving and not even thinking about the NFL. Goodell is going to ruin all Rozzell built by this constant LA talk. No one has the money out there to build a stadium, Plus you know the environmentalist will be lined up to oppose any construction because of their sacred cows.

  23. Being a Raider fan that lives in LA, I hope it’s the Raiders that move back down here. If it’s not the Silver & Black then I’d prefer it to be an NFC team such as the Vikings. No way in hell do I want the San Diego Chargers moving in to my town. Keep that crap down south.

  24. @ ninerdynasty: Poly want a cracker? Yeah, and blacks, asians and mexicans don’t wear Whiner rags? Would be funny if the Whiners took to LA. Karmic really. So watch out what you wish for your team might end up in LA or worse Santa Clara.

  25. @ raiders4life : If you are a true Raider fan you won’t want them to go to LA. Move up to Oakland if you’re a lifer.

  26. There is no possibility of a team ever moving to LA. The market doesn’t want a team, these proposed new stadiums do not come across as economically viable (Minnesota will get a new stadium for the Vikings before LA builds a new one), and the league’s push for a team in LA is alienating. Why the league doesn’t just give up on the LA pipe dream remains mystifying.

  27. I agree that Los Angeles has not supported the franchises that have recently (as far back as the Rams) been there. Why does the league think that they will now? Is there a rabid fan base that will fill up a new stadium? Why is it that a new stadium will fix the fan base problem? As successful as the program has been at USC, they did not sell out their last home game. Someone please help me understand.

  28. Los Angeles lost its two NFL teams because they couldn’t get new stadiums, not because nobody in LA supported them. The Coliseum is a massive building, that’s why the Raiders struggled to fill the stadium when they had a couple down years and they had to deal with television blackouts. The Raiders wanted a newer, modern stadium with lower capacity, and they couldn’t get it in LA, so they moved back to Oakland. Now the Trojans are feeling the same effect. For those who say USC can’t sell out games, you wouldn’t be saying that if the Coliseum was a 75,000 seat stadium.

    For those of you crying about LA not deserving a team because they couldn’t sell out NFL games the last time, why are you not shouting and screaming about Jacksonville who can’t even sell out a tarped-off 55,000 seat stadium?

  29. Los Angeles lost its two NFL teams because they couldn’t get new stadiums, not because nobody in LA supported them. The Coliseum is a massive building, that’s why the Raiders struggled to fill the stadium when they had a couple down years and they had to deal with television blackouts. The Raiders wanted a newer, modern stadium with lower capacity, and they couldn’t get it in LA, so they moved back to Oakland. Now the Trojans are feeling the same effect. For those who say USC can’t sell out games, you wouldn’t be saying that if the Coliseum was a 75,000 seat stadium.

    For those of you crying about LA not deserving a team because they couldn’t sell out NFL games the last time, why are you not shouting and screaming about Jacksonville who can’t even sell out a tarped-off 55,000 seat stadium?
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    Hey jerk, L.A is a bad sports town just accwept it and move on because you’re whining like a spoil baby. Did you look at the espn documentary 30 for 30 on the L.A situation? They did leave in part of lack of fan support so shut the blank up you clown. LA has 20 million people in that area and you can’t support your teams. Don’t call out Jacksonville wihout stating the facts because we sold 15,000 new season tickets in this ecomony and sold out every game this year in a tarped out 67, 000 seat stadium. Next time do your homework and don’t ever jusified your lack of fan support in a bad sports town in L.A.

  30. Wow, calling names are we? Who’s the one whining? Did I hit a too little close to home on the Jax comment? And I know all about the Raiders, and yes people stopped showing up when they began to suck and the association with gangs turned many away.

    BTW bud, do you understand how the free market (i.e. business) works? When people have options, like they do in LA, if your offering sucks, don’t expect people to consume your product. And the football product sucked in LA. Turning down a bad product might make them “bad” fans, but that means they are actually more rational than all you blind-loyalists who continue to shell out your cash for mediocre entertainment. More power to you “true” fans! So on second thought, maybe it wouldn’t be a smart move for the Jags to move to LA…people in LA know ineptitude when they see it.

    And when you say LA is a bad sports town, do you mean the fact that the city has more sports championships than the next top 5 cities combined? Or do you mean the fact that people in LA aren’t totally obsessed with sports and actually have lives. Attending a sporting event is probably about the 27th most interesting thing to do in LA. What is it in Jacksonville? Probably 2nd, right behind spending your weekends in 94% humidity noodling catfish in stagnant larvae infested sewage.

  31. As a citizen of Los Angeles I’ll be honest and say that the people of LA did not attend Rams and Raiders games in the needed numbers, causing both teams to leave town – but the fans stayed away for the following reasons; first, the Colisseum is a horrible stadium in every respect. Uncomfotable, no amenities, bad seating terrible viewing from just being too damn big. Second, hardly any parking – you have to go around to houses nearby who charge you $50 for the joy of parking on their lawns, with no security. Third, it’s in probably the most dangerous and crime-ridden area of the city, so if you bring your family you get to walk in the dark from the stadium, through the gang wars back to whatever remains of your car. Fans will NEVER attend games at the Colisseum for any team, it’s not worth your life. It’s either a brand new stadium in a new area or it’s not gonna happen.

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