Wild-card weekend picks

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We’ve decided to extend the Rosenthal-Florio picks battle into the postseason.

In a nutshell, I’ve got to close a four-game gap in only 11 games.

Before I can close the gap, however, we’ve got to disagree on some of the picks.

Through 17 weeks, Rosenthal pulled off an impressive record of 167-89, capping off the regular season with a mark of 11-5.  I won Week 17 with a record of 12-4, but I’m lagging at 163-93 for the year to date.

Saints at Seahawks

Florio’s take:  Before dismissing Seattle’s chances, keep in mind the fact that an 8-8 Chargers team beat the Colts two years ago in the wild-card round, and that the 9-7 Cardinals nearly won the Super Bowl that same season.  Then again, the Chargers and the Cardinals had:  (1) very good quarterbacks; and (2) a collection of other very good players.  The Seahawks have neither, and even though the Saints are traveling 2,100 miles on a short week with plenty of injuries in an outdoor game at the loudest open-air stadium in the league, it’s impossible to pick the upset here, even if it would be great to see.  Except for Saints fans.

Florio’s pick:  Saints 35, Seahawks 14.

Rosenthal’s take: You are going to hear a lot of arguments saying this game will be closer than expected. Matt Hasselbeck played well against New Orleans last time around, the Saints are banged up, it’s a short week, the 12th man, yada yada yada.  Bull.  The Seahawks faced three winning teams at Qwest Field in the second half of the season.  The Chiefs, Giants, and Falcons won by an average of 23 points.  This will be a rout.

Rosenthal’s pick: Saints 33, Seahawks 14.

Jets at Colts

Florio’s take:  Colts quarterback Peyton Manning consistently beats Rex Ryan defenses.  This year, Ryan’s defense is better and Manning’s weapons are worse.  But Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning and Mark Sanchez is still trying to be something remotely close to Peyton Manning.  In a quarterback’s league, the future Hall of Famer who has won four in a row with his back to the wall isn’t ready to call it a season just yet.

Florio’s pick:  Colts 27, Jets 17.

Rosenthal’s take: One year later, both of these teams aren’t quite the same.  The Colts offense lacks big plays, and Peyton Manning has to overcome mistakes from usually precise pass-catchers.  They were very lucky to beat the Titans last week.  In New York, the big bad Jets defense can be soft in the middle.  (To runs and throws up the seam.) Rex Ryan talks tough, but my gut says the Colts are a mentally tougher team.  I’d take the Jets at home, but not in Lucas Oil Stadium.

Rosenthal’s pick: Colts 26, Jets 21.

Ravens at Chiefs

Florio’s take:  Baltimore is playing its sixth playoff road game since 2008.  The Chiefs lost some of their luster with an uninspired Week 17 performance against the Raiders.  The decision of offensive coordinator Charlie Weis to take the same job at the college level speaks to a certain amount of dysfunction in the organization — just enough to keep them from finishing their unlikely playoff run with a victory over a better team.

Florio’s pick:  Ravens 20, Chiefs 14.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Ravens don’t have an offense that can put teams away, which is dangerous for a team whose defense has struggled in the fourth quarter all year.  The Chiefs don’t have an offense that can threaten you through the air, especially if Dwayne Bowe is out.  Jamaal Charles is the best player in this game and can keep it close.  But Kansas City’s lack of weapons will ultimately cost them.

Rosenthal’s pick: Ravens 16, Chiefs 14.

Packers at Eagles

Florio‘s take:  In Week One, the Packers went to Philly and knocked out Kevin Kolb and opened the door for Mike Vick’s historic resurgence.  A full 17 weeks later, the rest of the NFL seems to be catching up with Vick.  Though he’s impossible to stop, the Packers need only to outscore the Eagles, and the gap between Green Bay’s offense and Philly’s defense is bigger than the gap between the Eagles‘ offense and the Packers‘ defense.

Florio’s pick:  Packers 28, Eagles 24.

Rosenthal’s take:  Everyone is picking the Packers, which means the Eagles will win.  Yet I still want to pick the Packers.   The quarterbacks almost cancel each other out.  I’d take the Eagles talent at the skill positions, but Green Bay’s continuity and experience is superior.  The major edge here goes to Green Bay’s defense, which is capable of winning a game by itself.  Philly needs Vick to be extraordinary to win.  That could happen, but I’ll bet on the more complete team.

Rosenthal’s pick:  Packers 34, Eagles 30.

70 responses to “Wild-card weekend picks

  1. I have a feeling about these Seahawks. Pete Carroll always seems to have things fall into his lap, and the Saints have Reggie Bush as their only option at RB.

  2. How could you both pick against the Jets? How many time has Rex said they are winning the Super Bowl?

    The Seattle/NO game is going to be closer than people think.

  3. I don’t mean this to offend the Saints, but I too really hope the Seahawks win.

  4. Actually I think Philly needs its defense to have an extraordinary game, not Vick.

    I have this sneaking suspicion that Vick’s quad is not going to last very long (or will impede his mobility) once he starts subjecting it maximum stress in a game. Quad injuries (similar to hamstrings) have a tendency to linger and recur.

  5. Saints – 34
    Seahawks – 10

    Eagles – 27
    Packers – 17

    Jets – 23
    Colts – 17

    Chiefs – 31
    Ravens 14

  6. I think the Saints are a good team but do you really think they are going to win by 2 touchdowns…

    1. On the road at a loud stadium
    2. With a short week
    3. With Chris Ivory on IR
    4. With Pierre Thomas on IR
    5. With both TE’s hurting
    6. With Colston coming off surgery
    7. With the big ego boost that Seattle has along with the chip on their shoulder

    …Just asking

  7. This year, Ryan’s defense is better and Manning’s weapons are worse.
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    Flabio, explain to me how the Jets defense is better this year than last? Last year they were number 1, this year what are they 10th? How is that better? Someone has some splaining to do. And you are some kind of expert? I like the Colt 27-13.

  8. “In a nutshell, I’ve got to close a four-game gap in only 11 games.”

    In a nutshell you are now down to 7 games…

  9. Stat everyone seems to be ignoring about this Packers/Eagles game: Eagles are 3-0 under Andy Reid in the Wild Card round. It’ll be a close game, possibly even OT, but Eagles win, 27-23.

    Looking ahead to next weekend’s (possible) matchups, which AFC divisional round game would be more awesome – Patriots/Ravens or Colts/Steelers? Talk about crazy.

  10. Rodgers is going to go the way of his baseball namesake, A-Rod, and continue his postseason drought. The guy might be good, but he’s shaping up to be a perennial playoff choke artist. Maybe this time when he punt passes the ball, he’ll at least get it out of bounds – Masthay should give him some pointers.

  11. If you break it down, the Packers look like a winner. But if you look at the intangibles, the Eagles will win. What is Andy Reid’s record after the bye? What was last week for the Eagles essentially? (a bye.) And the Packers are coming off a big emotional victory against the Bears to get it. That math tells me the Eagles will win.

  12. I have no beef with the Saints and wouldn’t mind if they repeat.

    But.

    I’d love to see the 7-9 Seahawks advance, just because. They shouldn’t win this game, but they hardly should be there at all. So let’s compound the mockery and root for them to advance.

  13. southpaw2k:

    I know it’s tempting to forget, but Andy is 3-1 in the wild card round… The Cowboys decided to come out of hibernation and actually win a playoff game for the first time in 15 years last year. They knocked us out in the wild card round. Luckily they returned almost immediately to modern form.

  14. Thanks for extending the weekly picks into the playoffs. Let’s take this all the way to the Super Bowl!

  15. I dont think the Ravens Chiefs game could be decided before the 4th quarter but knowing the current Ravens history this game could be a Chiefs win. The Ravens play up or even down to there competition too often.

  16. iluvwikileaks says:
    Jan 7, 2011 8:13 AM
    Saints – 34
    Seahawks – 10

    Eagles – 27
    Packers – 17

    Jets – 23
    Colts – 17

    Chiefs – 31
    Ravens 14

    You are on crack . . . the Ravens have given up 30 points 1x this year – noway the Chiefs score 30+

  17. So… you went the safe way with your picks…

    To make it exciting, I say that the Seahawks will beat the Saints in a close one, and the Eagles will buuurn the Packers!

    Go Eagles!

  18. flasaint…

    I think, just as Mike Mayock said on the NFL Network…Seahawks have a punchers chance. I think the Saints will win but I think it will be a close game. News this morning also listed Malcolm Jenkins as not going to play since I put my first posting. There is just a laundry list of players either not playing or playing hurt for me to say that they are going to win by more than 2 touchdowns. Do you agree?

  19. The Eagles can win with a ball control offense. Unfortunately, Andy Reid has never heard of that approach. Running the ball consistently would take the pressure off Vick. We have good backs and the O-Line can actually run block. The Packers do not excel against the run. Nevertheless, Andy has this latent desire to get his QB killed, so the Pack will win.

  20. Ravens will blow out the Chiefs (if Cam Cameron is suddenly struck by an illness and the towel boy takes over as O.C.). Seriously though – I’m obviously not an NFL O.C. so what the hell do I know? – but it seems to me that they really need to take the reigns off of Flacco and the entire offense. Joe is always staring down his receivers and holding on too long because he has to follow the play call and hit the predetermined receiver on a predetermined route. Joe is smart and our receivers know when they have a good match up. They need more freedom to utilize their talent. And PLEASE stop with the Rice up the middle on every down. Use McClain up the middle, with an occassional dose of Rice… hit Rice on the screen pass as much as possible— guaranteed 1st down!!

    Go Ravens I know you can do it! Let’s roll into Pittsburgh (assuming Colts win) and knock ’em out of the playoffs for once!!!

  21. I don’t see the Seahawks winning the game, but I will certainly be taking them +10. I see them staying in the game, even though Brees will not let the Saints lose late.

  22. I figured out how the Eagles are going to win this week: I’m putting $100 down on GB.

  23. Rodgers is going to go the way of his baseball namesake, A-Rod, and continue his postseason drought. The guy might be good, but he’s shaping up to be a perennial playoff choke artist. Maybe this time when he punt passes the ball, he’ll at least get it out of bounds – Masthay should give him some pointers.
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    Please explain how one playoff loss is “perennial”. I keep hearing this argument that Rodgers can’t win a playoff game…..he’s been in one so far! And outside of the last play of the game, he played spectacularly(423 YDS passing , 4 TD, 1 INT plus a rushing TD). The defense lost that game(multiple times) long before overtime started.

  24. audient says:
    Jan 7, 2011 9:16 AM

    I’d love to see the 7-9 Seahawks advance, just because. They shouldn’t win this game, but they hardly should be there at all. So let’s compound the mockery and root for them to advance.

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    xactly

  25. How is Rodgers a “choke artist”?

    He rallied his team from down 24 in the 3rd quarter.

    Problem last year was GB just couldn’t stop any team with a good QB. Blown coverage everywhere.

    That’s what happens with guys like Jarrett Bush, Matt Giordano, Josh Bell playing in the secondary.

    T. Williams, C. Woodson, N. Collins, and C. Peprah will have a little something different to say.

    Green Bay 34, Philly 20
    Indy 27, NYJ 13
    NO 20, SEA 17
    BAL 13, KC 9

  26. ngatachance says:
    Jan 7, 2011 10:45 AM

    Go Ravens I know you can do it! Let’s roll into Pittsburgh (assuming Colts win) and knock ‘em out of the playoffs for once!!!
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    If the Colts win you’ll be rolling into Foxboro. Good luck with that.

  27. #ngatachance says: Jan 7, 2011 10:45 AM

    “Go Ravens I know you can do it! Let’s roll into Pittsburgh (assuming Colts win) and knock ‘em out of the playoffs for once!!!”

    Not gonna happen.

    If #3 Indy & #5 Baltimore both win this weekend, Indy will travel to #2 Pittsburgh and Baltimore will go to #1 New England…

  28. Rodgers has been in one playoff game and he played great in it. How in the he’ll could anyone call him a perennial choke artist? Really dumb post there….

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    bobbyhoying says: Jan 7, 2011 10:42 AM

    The Eagles can win with a ball control offense. Unfortunately, Andy Reid has never heard of that approach. Running the ball consistently would take the pressure off Vick. We have good backs and the O-Line can actually run block. The Packers do not excel against the run. Nevertheless, Andy has this latent desire to get his QB killed, so the Pack will win.

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    I couldn’t have said it better myself. So I won’t 🙂

  30. For those of you who are hoping for a Seattle win over the Saints…I think you’ll have to take your hope into next season.

    I do NOT think it will be a blow-out though. The Saints are so dinged AND injury prone. Without Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory…well, the running game will suffer, for sure. But, and this is a big BUT, more than any other this is a TEAM, not one or two stars. Other teams talk about next man up, but the Saints actually put that on the field.

    Reggie Bush has something to prove. I think he and Julius Jones will provide just enough of a run game to open up play action for Drew Brees.

    Jimmy Graham injured? Watch Jeremy Shockey to be the guy. He plays hurt ALL the time. This game will be no different, and he will score a TD.

    Malcolm Jenkins hurt? Gee whiz, I guess the Saints will have to roll out their pro bowl Darren Sharper. Watch him roam the seondary, closing routes and I believe he’ll be motivated to jump one of those routes for an INT when the Seahawks get down and are forced to go to the air. He’s hungry for one of those…I believe he’ll get one.

    Having said all this. I don’t think it will be a blow-out. Look for the Saints to come out fast and score in the first quarter. They’re looking to take the crowd out of it. Seahawks answer in the second quarter. Saints adjust at half time and pull ahead and although Seattle uses their kicker to come close they never take the lead. Saints – 24, Seahawks – 17.

  31. Eagles vs. Packers
    I vaguely remember Mike Vick Goin to Green Bay and beating the Hell out of a Green Bay Packer team with their Saviour Brett Farve at QB…..He had less talent on that Atlanta Falcon team than he does now…..i mean his leading receiver in that game was Warrick Dunn come on and lets not forget wat cud of happened if vick wud have played the Whole game against the Packers earlier this Year…….AJ Hawk and Clay gon have they hands full chasing Mike and Charles Woodson is a great DB but lets face it He is aging and i believe Desean Jackson is a little to Fast for Charles Likings…..

    Eagles 27 Packers 14

    Ravens vs. Chiefs
    Simple an experienced playoff team in the Ravens going against a young athletic KC team….Due to lack of playoff experience in key areas such as QB they mite faulter….i no everyone says wat about Baltimores offense well Flaccos 3rd playoff appearence, Anquan Boldins bn to the SuperBowl, Derrick Masons has not bn to the Super Bowl since that devastating loss to Kurt and The Rams in the Super Bowl…..i no they are tired of the flack they offense has been receiving so i think they ready to take the next step…….

    Baltimore 35 KC 12

  32. dukemarc says:
    Jan 7, 2011 10:49 AM
    Rodgers is going to go the way of his baseball namesake, A-Rod, and continue his postseason drought. The guy might be good, but he’s shaping up to be a perennial playoff choke artist. Maybe this time when he punt passes the ball, he’ll at least get it out of bounds – Masthay should give him some pointers.
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    Please explain how one playoff loss is “perennial”. I keep hearing this argument that Rodgers can’t win a playoff game…..he’s been in one so far! And outside of the last play of the game, he played spectacularly(423 YDS passing , 4 TD, 1 INT plus a rushing TD). The defense lost that game(multiple times) long before overtime started.
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    @dukemarc
    You beat me to it. It’s amazing to me the fantastic football minds on these forums. 1 playoff loss (That was by no means, Rogers fault) apparently means your a “choke” artist.

    I laugh when I read comments about Andy Reids wild card round record etc. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Stats mean absolutely nothing in this situation. We saw the same thing before the Pack played the Eagles the first game of the year. Have not won in Philly since 1962…blah, blah, blah. Speaking from experience I too was way overconfident when Atlanta came into Green Bay years ago with Vick. All I read was GB had NEVER lost a home playoff game so they magically would win that one. Guess what? We lost.

    While I feel the Eagles are a very good team, I don’t think they can keep up with the Packers offense. The Eagles D is very suspect to the run (Even to the Packers run game) and Asante Samuel takes way to many risks to be effective against a beast like Jennings.

    The key here is the Packers defense. Vick better be rested because he’s going to be pressured and hit hard and often. Also, if you want stats I’ll give you one from this year. The Packers have NEVER trailed by more than 7 points in ANY game this year. So, by that reasoning you need to start looking at who has the better D against the better O. The Pack wins.

    It should be a great game to watch. Philly you had a good year, but the Packers will not fold like the Giants (Who you barely beat……Oh yeah, what was the score of the Packers-Giants game again?)

  33. Eagles have been preparing for the Packers since the Minn game.

    The Eagles track record with that much time to prepare is almost flawless.

    They will win this game going away.

    Eagles 38

    Pack 17

  34. High winds in Philly deflate the passing games for these two. (if the weather channel is right and that’s a big if). The Packers can’t run the ball at all so the nod goes to the Iggles despite the Cheeseheads superior defense. Iggles 13-9.

  35. So we lose to the Saints 34-19 in their house earlier this year , and people are predicting a bigger blowout this time around and it’s in our house ?! They lose to the Bucs and only score 13 points in that game , and have more than a few key players not available or hurt for this game ( Ivory , Pierre-Thomas , Jenkins , Colston with a bad knee ) but we’re gonna get our asses kicked , at home , in the pouring freezing rain , with 67,000 Hawks fans screaming their brains out the entire game huh ?

    That’s just F’n stupid people . Grow a brain stem . I don’t see us getting blown out by the kind of scores people are talking about … look , I have all the respect in the world for the Saints , they’re a great team . They should probably win the game . But unless Hasselbeck starts throwing multiple picks again , the score is going to be a lot closer than that . This game is not going to be the blowout people think it is . And I won’t be all that surprised by the upset if it happens .

    GO HAWKS !!

  36. “Cold and Windy” for the game in Philly?

    Well, I’m a Pack fan all the way, but I’m also realistic. The Packers have no running game to speak of. The Eagles do have a running game, in many more ways than one. If it is cold and windy to the extent that it affects the passing game, this is totally in the Eagles favor. I mean, even if it were mild and not windy, giving the Packer’s lack of a running game their chances against the Eagles (and in the playoffs in general) were always going to fall on Rodger’s shoulders in terms of the passing game.

    So if Philly fans wake up to a crappy, cold and windy day on Sunday, then smile. That is highly a good sign for your Eagles chances. The only chance the Packer’s have IS their passing game–without that, heck, even Detroit would beat us. (Oh, yeah, they DID!) So in this case, the only way I see the Eagles losing is if the Packers Defense somehow has the most incredible performance ever, combined with the Eagles beating themselves. Other than that, this Packer fan’s money is on the Eagles to win.

  37. …dwhitehurst…

    Man Up dwhitehurst. If you are a true Pack fan then you shouldn’t be talking that way. Didn’t the Pack just beat the Bears who have a somewhat mobile quarterback and a run game in bad weather conditions. The bad weather conditions is what will force Vick to throw more. As a Falcons fan I know not to bank on that.

    Or wait…are you just being sarcastic?

  38. “The Seahawks faced three winning teams at Qwest Field in the second half of the season. The Chiefs, Giants, and Falcons won by an average of 23 points. This will be a rout.”

    Pretty poor gloss over. They were missing the starting QB vs the NYG and had inj to their top 2 WRs for the other 2. NO wins on the road but narrowly, SF, CIN, ATL ex. The line is +10.5. This line wasn’t set to just hand out money to a big popular public favourite.

    NO wins but it will be closer to that # ie 26-16.

  39. gafraidh says: Jan 7, 2011 8:53 AM

    “In a nutshell, I’ve got to close a four-game gap in only 11 games.”

    In a nutshell you are now down to 7 games

    Couldn’t have put it better myself.

  40. pedsaregoodforsports –

    Your post illustrates exactly why the Packers are gonna win. Nobody fears Andy Reid and his “great” record after byes, and your reasoning that they’ve been planning for the Packers since the Minny loss is absurd. Good luck to the Eagles getting back into the groove after weeks of offensive and defensive strugggles – I’m sure the Packers are real scared of Andy Reid and his two week game plan for them.

  41. The fact is that if the deities looking in from an alternative universe will go to the trouble of getting Seattle to this point, they will make them win somehow.
    37/35 Seattle

  42. key match up for eagles, packers is desean jackson vs sam shields speed on speed like the fastest of the fast 4.30. if green bay wins the eagles have no chance!

  43. kennyrogerschicken says:
    Jan 7, 2011 9:01 PM
    pedsaregoodforsports –

    Your post illustrates exactly why the Packers are gonna win. Nobody fears Andy Reid and his “great” record after byes, and your reasoning that they’ve been planning for the Packers since the Minny loss is absurd. Good luck to the Eagles getting back into the groove after weeks of offensive and defensive strugggles – I’m sure the Packers are real scared of Andy Reid and his two week game plan for them.

    —It’s a tough game for both teams. But not fearing Andy Reid after a bye is stupid. Be afraid. Be very afraid. He’s something like 15-0 after byes including the playoffs. 12- regular season. That is impressive. It’s not a real bye, but Andy’s greatest strength is game planning. That could even be the difference in this one. Who knows. Should be a good game.

  44. pedsaregoodforsports says:
    Jan 7, 2011 1:10 PM
    Eagles have been preparing for the Packers since the Minn game.

    The Eagles track record with that much time to prepare is almost flawless.

    They will win this game going away.

    Eagles 38

    Pack 17
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    howd that work out for ya?

  45. Die Eagles Die
    On the road to history.
    I love it I love it I love it………………………………..

    It was worth the Giants getting knocked out of the playoffs just to see the Eagles lose in the first round.

    Jackson you are a loser and next time put up or shut up…

  46. I listened for weeks about the Eagles going to the super bowl. Now at least I can enjoy them crying about this and that about to many penalties and 2 missed field goals and all the bs that fatso has to say about his great Eagles. Angelo and the rest of 610wip
    start your crying. I have a whole year to hear the bs about the Eagles………………..

    How about a new head coach???????????????

  47. iluvwikileaks says:
    Jan 7, 2011 8:13 AM
    Saints – 34
    Seahawks – 10

    Eagles – 27
    Packers – 17

    Jets – 23
    Colts – 17

    Chiefs – 31
    Ravens 14
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    wow….my 7 year old daughter picked them better. 1 for 4….man, you’re good.

  48. Us Seahawks fans are laughing our asses off at all the naysayers who derided us as not deserving of a playoff spot. Laughing all the way to Chicago while the Saints go marching home (in shame).

  49. I listened for weeks about the Eagles going to the super bowl. Now at least I can enjoy them crying about this and that about to many penalties and 2 missed field goals and all the bs that fatso has to say about his great Eagles. Angelo and the rest of 610wip
    start your crying. I have a whole year to hear the bs about the Eagles………………..

    How about a new head coach???????????????
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    dolphins4 says:
    Jan 12, 2011 1:28 AM
    The Eagles will never win a Superbowl.

    ___________________________

    1. It depends on who is out there. Andy has some real strengths. Unfortunately the run game and in-game decisions are not on the list. If we could get Cowher, I would jump at it.

    2. Never? That’s dumb. It really is. There is no way to know. At least we are in it almost every year. Andy Reid has made the playoffs at about 75% of the time, has gone to 5 NFC championships, and 1 Super Bowl. That is an amazing record.

    3. The above notwithstanding, it’s not good enough for we Philly fans. Not sure what the solution is.

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