Jay Feely: Fans are the ones who suffer

When Cardinals kicker Jay Feely joined ProFootballTalk Live a month ago, he said he worried that emotions were getting in the way of the players and the owners getting a deal done.

When Feely joined PFT Live again today — after the owners and the players did, in fact, fail to get a deal done — Feely said he doesn’t think emotions were the problem at the negotiating table. But he did say that he realizes fans are going to have an emotional reaction to the inability to reach an agreement.

“Emotions, obviously, have been heightened, but I think both sides at the end of the day understand that they’re making business decisions,” Feely said, adding that if those business decisions can’t get worked out, “fans are the ones who suffer.”

Feely dismissed the claim from the owners’ side that the players always wanted to go to court, rather than come to an agreement at the bargaining table.

“All emotions aside, we went to the negotiations last week — and I was there — with the intent of getting a deal done,” Feely said.

And Feely, who praised the federal mediator, George Cohen, said the union and the owners did, in fact, make progress during the mediation sessions.

“We made a lot of progress in mediation in the health and safety issues . . . and the offseason program,” Feely said.

Just not enough progress to prevent a lockout.

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34 responses to “Jay Feely: Fans are the ones who suffer

  1. “We made a lot of progress in mediation in the health and safety issues . . . and the offseason program,” Feely said

    Translation: We got 95% of everything we wanted while giving nothing. They just wouldn’t budge on that last 5%.

    Jay, just like Drew Brees, shut up. Stop telling us that we are the ones suffering.

  2. The owners treatment of the fans borders somewhere between neglect and abuse.

    They players treatment of the fans lies somewhere between indifference and hostility.

    A complete contempt of the fans is one of the few things these two parties have in common.

  3. Fans are also the only ones without an organized voice. If someone could ever put some lobby group like that together, we may see a lesser likelihood of lock-outs, strikes, escalating ticket prices and ludicrous revenue bases. But, the NFL is quite certain that no matter what, we’ll never, in meaningful numbers, stop watching or stop attending games. So, Feely has it right — we’re screwed.

  4. “We made a lot of progress in mediation in the health and safety issues . . . and the offseason program,” Feely said.

    Just not enough progress to prevent a lockout.
    Be honest Jay, the owners gave you pretty much everything you wanted except they still wanted some of their money back. It makes for a good sound bite but the players never really cared about improving health and safety issues. All they care about is that the salary cap keep going up.

  5. If 100,000 fans buy one less beer at the stadiums that takes $1,000,000 away from these greed-heads.

    Do the same with jerseys… autographs… caps… etc.

    Send them a message.

  6. If it wasn’t for the football, Jay Feely would be pumping gas and playing in some amateur soccer league. I somehow think fans will be suffering less.

  7. The three components in this are the owners who provide the building, the players who preform and the fans who pays the bills. The owners and the players assume since the NFL is so popular the fans will condone anything as long as they eventually will get football better get this thing settled.

  8. Please! Suffering, who is suffering? Stop placating fans with ridiculous comments.

    You know who is suffering, the Japanese.

    NFL players throughout the year, do whatever they can to avoid fan contact, now fans are important.

    I wish the owners and players alike would stop trying get the fans on their side. Most don’t give a toss; most won’t even be concerned until about 01 Aug, when they go to pick their fantasy football teams.

  9. Ah, nothing like a guy who goes anti-union/working class on Fox with his buddies and then takes the other side when it comes to his own pockets. He’s learned well.

  10. So, Mr Feely, if the players wanted negotiations, why did your leader walk away from them? Why not keep at it until there was a settlement? I’m sorry, but if there was progress and the owners were giving as much as was reported and verified, why not keep at it? It makes no sense, if there was progress being made just to walk away from negotiations, and then give the owners an ultimatum–because that’s what it was–an ultimatum–15 minutes before your leader decided to pull the plug on the whole thing and decertify–and then, within hours, not days, but hours, have a 58 page document filed in federal court suing the NFL?

  11. I beg to differ Jay Feely. We football fans do not need player sympathy. Players do not realize that we hold the power. Do not pity us for our “suffering”. Will I miss football? Greatly. Will I still get up and go to work the next day? Absolutely. Question is Jay Feely, where will you go when fans stop coming to games? Take the last deal and play football or risk fan apathy. We fans can take that last bit of money you are arguing over (it is our money after all) and invest in a different form of entertainment.

  12. @krow101,
    The only ones who would suffer from that are the ones who pay for the right to make NFL-licensed merchandise or run concessions at stadiums. It would take years of boycotts before the bids these companies make to win their contracts start to impact the NFL’s bottom line.

  13. Come on, MAN! Enough of the pious, hypocritical talk……this is not about the fans suffering, this is about GREED….the players meant to litigate all along (Why not? It worked before!)…The owners prepared for the obvious….

    Behavior Modification 101: A behavior that is rewarded is more likely to be repeated. (The players won the first litigation and reaped outrageous rewards. Did they want to litigate all along? DUH!)

  14. After reading/listening what both sides have to say, I’m slowly getting the feeling this isn’t about money and 18 games. It’s more about egos.

    I don’t think either side wants to walk away looking like the “loser” considering it’s Goodell’s and Smith’s first real labor negotiation. Each side wants to appear like they were willing to accept the other side’s offer, when in reality, it looks like neither side really wanted to budge.

  15. Really? The fans are suffering? I thought that only the millionaire-players were suffering because they don’t make enough money. I didn’t realize that showing up to our jobs every day without crying about money defined “suffering”.
    Maybe us “suffering” fans should decertify and sue the players because we have nothing to watch on Sunday’s besides my hot neighbor wash her car. Maybe we need some of that money to ease our “suffering”. First I need to get some financial advice from my cousin, Vinny.

  16. I’m sorry, but Feely did a disservice to his fellow players with his appearance today.

    He clearly stated the leagues last offer was nearly identical to the offer the players offered regarding the starting point not being on percentage, but on overall dollar amounts and then figuring out the percentages from there. He said the hangup came from the players missing out on future growth in the NFL’s proposal.

    If, in the end, you’re getting a percentage of the profits, you’re still reaping the reward of a growing pie. A small percentage of a big number is often bigger than a big percentage of a small number. One more reason why these guys aren’t financially sound.

    Then he says that players who blow their money are looked at as foolish for not having financial advisers but that when the NFLPA* acquired financial advisers they were looked down upon for it.

    This is inaccurate, and an insult to my intelligence. If more players were financially sound, maybe they wouldn’t need to be splitting hairs over money now.

    Nobody with more than a million dollars should ever go broke. Ever. Ever. I was looking into an apartment complex this weekend in the midwest for 650k. Yes, it’s way out of my league, but I look so I’m prepared when it’s not.

    Estimated cash flow(with 20% down, or 160k out of pocket) was 6k per month. So after mortgage, maintenace, tax, insurance, and property management it was around 40% cash on cash return.

    That means for 1.6 million somebody could theoretically have 10 of them for a cash flow of 60k per month. And the property manager would do all the work. Sit back, collect, and pay enough accountants to know that nobody’s screwing you.

    So, Jay Feely:

    Hiring people to help you milk more money that players will flush away doesn’t make any of us with business sense think you’re being smarter. It makes us think you’re being greedier since once you get what you want, most of you will go right back to throwing it away and still not be financially sound.

    I sit at home and pray that somebody hands me a piece of paper worth half of what a bench sitter gets. Enough is enough.

  17. benh999 says: Mar 14, 2011 1:13 PM

    If it wasn’t for the football, Jay Feely would be pumping gas and playing in some amateur soccer league. I somehow think fans will be suffering less.


    Its funny but I was going to say that about Mike Brown….

  18. fans suffer when feely misses 3 fgs for giants at seatlle or when he chokes for 2 more for jets vs. cinci.

  19. Jay, the fans will miss football for the time being but the players will miss paychecks and years off their playing time and the owners will miss the bucks also. The fans will get over it and even have some extra money to spend on their families instead of the NFL.

  20. I wonder if Jay actually read the comments and what is his thinking after reading them. It would be interesting to know. If he has the guts to do so.

  21. Well said, touchdownroddywhite.

    I’m sick of these money-hungry players who have blinders on with regards to how the real world functions. They truly have no idea of how fortunate they are to be able to play a game they supposedly love while being paid handsomely for it. Hell, if I had the skills, I’d be out there for $50,000 a year and loving life. For $100K a year I’d wash the team owners car too. It would beat the hell out what most of us do for a living.

  22. ???

    I’m probably suffering the least.

    I have hockey, college football and other choices to enjoy athletes competing.

    Owners? No revenue and big stadiums to pay for.

    Players? No paycheck and many are living close to the edge already.

    How exactly am I suffering?

  23. I don’t think Cardinals fans will be suffering at all. Last season was so nauseating, not having to watch Derek Anderson or Max Hall will make us feel like you do when you finish that final barf and you know all the grunge is gone.

  24. Fans don’t suffer. The employees getting screwed by their management working in this industry suffer. See the New York Jets.

  25. as a fan im pretty ticked off… im all about better health insurance for players but more money?!?! us fans have been bent over grabbing our ankles for long enough paying outrageous ticket and concession prices (not to mention parking)… the thousands of dollars i spend each year for my team and the players want MORE MONEY?!?! what the hell are these guys doing with there wealth anyway? is it too much to ask for the players to say “Thank You” to us fans for obnoxiously supporting them and their outrageous salaries every year? religiously going to games, home and away, and spending our hard earned money on our favorite team over and over again… we just want to feel appreciated because, in the end, we are the ones that make their profession and high salaries possible and don’t have a voice or a leg to stand on in any negotiations that go along with the business… where’s the love guys? show us that we are appreciated for making your amazing life happen

  26. I have no problem…i say just play the game without you.

    You can stay home while you swallow your pride. Plus you will no longer have to risk your life everyday. Get real pal.

  27. Jay the only one who is going to suffer is the poor jerks who agree to pay for the higher season ticket prices and yes they are going way up.
    The rest of us don’t give a rats ass if you play next year or not. We’ll just drink beer and find something else to do.

    Were just a little tired of all these professional athletes and their incredible greed factor.

  28. Duh! You will be the one suffering when you start missing game checks. Then it’ll be about you and NOT the fans. Jerks!

  29. If anything the fans are the only ones benefitting from this. While they workout their differences, we will have a chance to ween off this drug, called the NFL, that drains our time, money, and Sundays.

    We needed to stand up for lower ticket prices and concessions and perhaps the only way to do that was to give less demand to the NFL. Since we don’t have the ability to give up our love for the game, this is probably the best thing that could have happened to decrease demand.

    It should also rebalance the NFL if a season is missed because two drafts can go by and the older experienced players will get older by a year.

    I’ll be the first to say that I’ll be excited if I get a refund for my season tickets for this year.

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