Jay Feely says “we’re always willing to negotiate”

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Earlier today, Adam Schefter of ESPN quoted an unnamed NFLPA* source who said there’s “no chance” additional negotiations will continue between the league and the players before the April 6 hearing on the motion for preliminary injunction, aimed at lifting the lockout.

Even earlier in the day, Cardinals kicker Jay Feely, who directly participated in the negotiations, said that talks can continue.

“I don’t know the exact legal ramifications for how and when we would have to negotiate and continue to negotiate, we’re always willing to negotiate so, we have no desire to be stagnant in a litigation system and our desire is to play football,” Feely said.

So who’s really calling the shots?  The players, or the unnamed source who sufficiently persuaded Schefter to put his own reputation on the line by declaring that there will be no talks for the next three weeks, after nearly three weeks of continuous discussions?

70 responses to “Jay Feely says “we’re always willing to negotiate”

  1. Jay, you might be a good guy and all that but the lawyers are running the show and I know your a kicker but I don’t know if you are a lawyer because if your not the lawyers for the union are not paying any attention to you. I love the comment you post that “Schefter is putting his own reputation on the line” Al Davis said it right when last year he called Schefter a rumor monger and now that Adam is an insider with ESPN he has to come up with something.

  2. Maybe the cognitive dissonance I’m experiencing comes from every one of the players put into PR duty today being on a different page. It’s almost entertaining, in a dark sort of way. Just get back to the damn table and hammer out a deal, please.

  3. Oh thank god. Jay Feely, my savior. *rolls eyes* At this point nothing either side says can be taken seriously.

  4. This is just it. It sounds like the players are all on a different page.

    The owners, whether right or wrong, at least seem to have their thoughts/stories together.

  5. I have a feeling some of the players are after “baseball” money…and an end to salary-caps. The NFL is the most popular sport but their biggest stars aren’t the highest paid athletes in the US. Don’t be think for a second these players don’t think about this kind of stuff….the players want more mandatory guaranteed contracts for veteran players…Brees and Mawae are two players that have a bad history with owners.

  6. Why is it that it is always Feely that is talking? I’d like to hear from someone who has more credibility and the pull to get something done. Not Arizona’s kicker.

  7. “So who’s really calling the shots?”

    Feely, like most players, have no grasp of the law, (“I don’t know the exact legal ramifications for how and when we would have to negotiate and continue to negotiate”).

    You Mike, profess to know the law, and have many ‘sources’.
    So tell us, who is calling the shots?
    I visit this site for answers, not union rhetoric.

  8. The players are calling the shots now. I haven’t heard a single player spokesperson state they weren’t ready to negotiate anytime, anyplace. However, the first time they sit at the negotiating table and the owners don’t show up on schedule, they will feel justified to leave and tell the media why they left.

  9. My money is on Adam Schefter.
    The only reason Feely is saying this nonsense is because someone in MEmaurice litigation camp spilled the beans and it bolsters the leagues contention that decertifying is a sham.

    The players didn’t negotiate. They don’t want to negotiate UNTIL the judges rule against the owners on the lockout issue.
    If the judge sides with the owners THEN the players will certainly want to negotiate. Hell I bet they run to the table

  10. It rings a bit hollow now that the players have chosen the lawyers to do their negotiating for them. I suppose the fans have to watch this unfold in a long, painful process. Maybe there is more than money at stake here? Could egos be also involved?

  11. Do any of you boneheads making more money than the average fan in one game than we make in a year realize how long its going to take to piss all of us off to the point we stop buying season tickets,stop buying player jerseys,cancel NFL ticket and just decide to teach all you rich s.o.b.s a very valuable lesson?….I am getting to that point and I hope to pass that message to EVERYONE I can reach…

    We gotta worry cuz gas is getting too expensive to even drive to work and you guys cant divide 9 billion dollars?…Give me a Break!!!

    I am asking everyone out there to boycott everything NFL…we as fans are paying for their yachts,BMW’S,ect…..cmon people if we all stand together and just cancel season tickets,stop buying anything NFL and be serious about it we can bring these pricks to their knees…

    They need us more than we need them…

  12. Mike, your coverage has been aces. But couldn’t help giggling at the part about Schefter putting his reputation on the line. Seems he’s lost that once or twice before. In this case, though, both may be right. Think the players are willing to keep negotiating as they were earlier in the year when the owners left the table. The owners have been planning the lockout for at least two years. Doubt they’d come back to the table while Boies is working on their legal strategy.

  13. Ummm …hello. Planet Earth to Jay Feely. You decertified… you broke off negotiations… you walked out. This isn’t Fox News… people know when you’re lying.

  14. Indeed, my guess is that Friday’s owner proposal was not a “drop dead”—take it or leave it—offer, but rather an invitation by the NFL for the NFLPA to walk toward them. Instead, the players union—motivated more by a sense of entitlement than a desire to bargain—did a 180-degree about-face, and walked out the door. That can change. If Jay Feely’s willingness to negotiate is shared by the players, then NOW is the time to make their voices heard and win back the hearts of NFL fans, many of whom don’t see the NFLPA* and “Norma Rae” in the same light.

  15. In good faith? I doubt it. Your greed has clouded your judgement. No matter what the owners offer, you guys jet want more.

  16. He said She said. The players who are ill prepared will cry the loudest to get a deal. The owners who are ill-prepared are all ready laying off employees and cutting expenses. This is laughable. The 6th is the date, and the owners could care less about the players or fans. Both will come back, except the fans have no say or leverage. Daniel Snyder sells old peanuts for 10.00 a bag, puts an inferior product on the field and the fans still sell-out the stadium…LOL. Typical and most fans side with the owners…lmao!

  17. I guess the existent/nonexistent union is willing to negotiate/non-negotiate on a collective basis when and if it suits them, despite the fact they have supposedly decertified. The nonexistent organization has also non-advised prospective draftees to not show up or to show up at the NFL draft meeting next month. Kind of makes you wonder if he NFLPA exists or not. The NFLPA materializes and then dematerializes like some sort of weird 1960s Star Trek special effect. The players never intended to negotiate fairly, they always wanted to go to court. I hope the now non-existent union gets blown up. They deserve it.

  18. You’re sure being hard on Schefter because of his alleged “unnamed sources”.
    If it weren’t for “unnamed sources”, your writing material and article content would be cut by 75%.

  19. Actions speak louder than words…. quit talking about how you guys are willing to talk… JUST START TALKING AND GET IT DONE!

  20. If both sides are willing to negotiate, then they’d be negotiating. The players started the ball rolling when they decertified…add the unnamed source…and I call BS on the players. I hope the owners win the injunction, and maintain the lockout until the players capitulate. They need to learn that playing in the NFL is voluntary, and extremely lucrative. 1/4 of their salary is better than anything they could find if they went looking for real work.

    And please…the average player career is 3-4 years? Are we including training camp fodder here? If you’re good, you play a long time. If you’re average, you play a long time. If you suck, nobody cares about you…but you still made 1/2 a million dollars.

  21. If by negotiate you mean sit stubbornly at a table unwilling to budge and trash talk your negotiating partner at every turn then I agree….what part of the being willing to negotiating is leaving the table with an offer on it and cutting off all talks again?

  22. All Player BS, the owners moved towards getting a deal done. Sixty percent raise in Retired Players Pensions, no 18 Games Schedule and a cut back in money they wanted off the top.

    It could have been a Negotiating start point but the players blew off any extension because they want a deal only under their terms.

    It does not help having all your Snot Nose Rich Boys, Manning, Brady and others Representing the Players in Filing the Lawsuit. Do you really think a Fan that works 80 hours a week and is high jacked for Direct TV Season Ticket, Season Tickets and the price of Gear have any sympathy for these Greedy Players fighting over how to split a Billion Dollars out of a 8 Billion Dollar Pie.

    They could give two &^%$# for the Fans and unlike the players that came before that played for little money and the love of the game this bunch are all about the MONEY and care nothing for the Game or the Fans that PAY THEIR SALARY.

    I hope the Owners bury the players and if they do my Family and I might just come back should this ever be worked out. So tell the Players to Cool it and stop pulling on my Tit.

  23. The “he said, she said” stuff from both sides is truly enough to turn me off the sport for good.

    They’re both completely full of crap.

    It’s sickening and it’s totally diminishing the overall product. Even when the inevitable settlement occurs, you have a deal that probably could have been done a year ago and you know both sides despise each other.

    Let’s go Red Sox!

  24. I told my Kids if they want to wear Team Gear Fine, if I ever see them wearing Gear with a Players Name on it again I told them they can find a new place to live.

  25. Seems like the lawyers are calling the shots and the NFLPA main reps. The players have to trust they have their best interests at heart, even if they may not.
    I think the players want to play football, and get paid LOTS of money.

    BTW – How can they tell new recruits that are going to be players not to show up for the draft, when they are not in the “union” and the union has disbanded. This truly is a “sham” and everyone knows it. They must be going to re-create the union after this is all over, otherwise, why would the players care about the new draft people?

  26. Really is that what Jay Feely says!!?

    Why does my favorite league have these kind of people speaking for it?

    Wheres Peyton Manning or Tom Brady?

    Where are the 10 year pros who made millions off of this league?

    You would think the players who have made millions on millions would actually protect the business that helped them…

  27. I would love to ask Jay what his plan is if they lock out..

    What do Kickers do when they cant kick field goals? Maybe he can collect unemployment like 25% of the nation and cry from his house instead of talking like a big boy at union meetingts..

  28. To borrow a tennis analogy:

    The ball is in the NFLPA’s court.

    All the fans know this.

    Thus far they’ve refused to hit the ball back.

    That doesn’t look good for them.

    It’s not all that complicated.

  29. 1. I KNOW owners are worth alot of money. 2. They bought their teams as an investment/gamble so they deserve both bad and good consequences. 3. I KNOW players sacrifice alot. However, they are paid alot of money for a job others would love to do for one minute. 4. Encouraging incoming rookies to boycott the draft is total B.S. by the union. 5. College football will place the NFL and union from page 1 news to page 5 comics. Enjoy the company of “Ziggy” and “Family Circus”.

  30. Hi Pardner, or, should I say “wannabe partner”…..negotiations are fine as long as you keep both feet firmly on the ground….you see, you WORK for the OWNERS….they sign your paychecks……

    Maybe, this will help: OWNER= TARZAN
    PLAYER= CHEETAH

  31. One thing seems to be true…the owners’ side is better organized as to what they are presenting as a message than the players’ side is.

  32. Schefter put his reputation on the line? I thought he worked at ESPN. What reputation?

  33. Guaranteed it’s two people–Jeffrey Kessler and Kevin Mawae. There’s an aritcle on Yahoo Sports where Mawae comes out and says that “the owners are fabricating lies”–funny, since some of the owners, such as Mara and Rooney were at the negotiating sessions, have come out and said what the owners’ offer was. Even the president of the Broncos has said they’re willing to show their books.

    Mawae has nothing to lose, really as an active player–no one wanted to sign him last year, and after this, I don’t think anyocoach will want to sign him. But, if he and Kessler are leading the players down the proverbial garden path, he has plenty to lose in that respect.

    I think there’s a split among some of the players who were negotiating as evidenced by Peter King’s report yesterday that on the night before everything went to pot, Jeff Saturday and Roger Goodell were seen in a restaurant having a serious conversation–and “not being too pleased when tghey realized they were spotted”. I just wonder how much the players are educated in all of this.

    I don’t care how “late” the owners’ offer came–it was a chance to keep negitiating and the players walked out.

  34. Yes, Jay Feely and DeMaurice Hussein Smith are always willing to negotiate. That’s why they left the bargaining table to opt for litigation. Makes perfect sense! At least when the owners opted out of the previous CBA it was because the long term sustainability of the game was in jeopardy due to the outrageous increase in year to year player salaries and the rise in the cost of doing business. The players just got up and walked away from valuable concessions they may never see again and for what? To retire insanely rich and leave the franchises broke?

    When individual players start earning more money than several franchises take in, you’ve got a recipe for a broke, dead league down the road! You’ve got to be blind not to see it coming. It’s economics 101. If you don’t get it, you probably still support Obama.

    Anyway, I’ll just enjoy the college football season and some MLB from time to time. I hope the owners cancel the season and force the players to find work elsewhere and see how they like it. Either that or fire everyone and start a brand new system of doing business with the long-term financial health of each franchise in mind. Don’t worry, college football will make us some new stars. Dump the current group of ingrates.

  35. feely should just shut his pie hole he aint helping he`s not even a real football player he `s a kicker

  36. iknowfootballandyoudont says:
    Mar 14, 2011 9:26 PM
    All the owners have to do is talk, act like they are negotiating(kinda like the NFLPA did for the last 2 weeks) and let this thing carry on into the start of the season.
    Once the players start missing checks, I promise you, no I GUARENTEE you. You will not here Brees spouting off, you won’t here MEmaurice spouting off, or Cindy Brady. What you will here is players sweating, worrying, and preparing to cave.

    You might know football but you don’t know how to read, if the ruling is in favor of the players then the lockout is over so the owners can’t let this carry into the season because the players will be getting paid and the owners will go out and pay for FA’s.

    The best thing for the fans that want football is to have the ruling go in favor of the players.

  37. “I don’t know the exact legal ramifications for how and when we would have to negotiate and continue to negotiate,….”

    Enough said, Jay! Get back to solitary practice kicking field goals at the high school.

  38. KMDP4 Says:
    “You might know football but you don’t know how to read, if the ruling is in favor of the players then the lockout is over so the owners can’t let this carry into the season because the players will be getting paid and the owners will go out and pay for FA’s.”

    Really? Maybe you haven’t heard but there is no CBA, it’s over, expired.

  39. txchief:

    Well said. Maybe they’d listen to a petition from millions fans all over the world, maybe.

  40. Guys, plz lose Jay Feeley’s number.

    If he calls you, let it go to voicemail. If he texts you, delete it without reading.

    I am BEGGING you – no more Jay Feeley headlines or stories.

  41. Why is everyone coming down hard on the “kicker.” I happen to think they are as important as any member of any team. Who the hell to you look for with .03 left on the clock and your team 40 yards from the end zone and trailing by 2 points? It happens every damn Sunday during the season somewhere. Get over it. Feely is a pro who wins and loses games just as the QB does. He has a say in this matter.

  42. so many idiots, so little time. the position you play or contribution to the team has nothing to do with your value to negotiations. He was a finance major at michigan. Often kickers are among the smarter players on the team. they know they have to take their college careers seriously because they won’t ever have huge contracts.

  43. I mean it……lose Jay Feeley.

    Leave a BLANK headline and article and we will know that the space was for a Jay Feeley comment…….it’ll be better reading

    Thks

  44. I don’t think the players want to negotiate anytime soon. If they can get the court system to help their cause, they will likely take that route. When they didn’t try to work with the owner’s last offer (which albeit was late in the game, but better late than never), that clinched it for me. I do think they had planned all along to use the court system and didn’t plan to seriously negotiate. Come September, if nothing is happening, then the players might become more serious about negotiating.

    Sorry, but the inmates can’t run the asylum 100%.

  45. I’m getting tired of Captain Positive here. The Union was picking a fight and headed to litigation from the time they voted in their new head. And I think their conduct supports my assertion.

    First, we have a demand for 10-years of financials. That was an outrageous, horses’-ass demand that no reasonable businessman should have to provide. When you sell a business you’re usually giving three and never more than five. Heck, even the IRS, except for deliberate, serious fraud, only looks at the last three years.

    Plus, ten-year-old financial information is worthless. Seriously, the environment, management and the CBA provisions that drive the number-one cost — player salaries — have changed so dramatically, that it’s pointless. It’s like trying to make applesauce out of bananas.

    Second, they already get (every freaking year) all the revenue information for the clubs. They already get, every year, the information from the Packers who release publicly. Using the Packers as a model, you don’t even need a rocket-scientist for an accountant to see the obvious trends in profitability when one of the best managed teams in the NFL can barely turn a profit, and not even a significant one. Everyone, not ideologically driven, can watch the Packers go from a reasonably profitable organization (for one worth close to a billion dollars) to one that produced one percent profit on worth.

    Just one freaking percent on worth! Compare that to a five-year T-Bill, the safest possible investment you can get, is paying 2.11%! And you don’t have to work, deal with idiot agents, dog-killing QBs, or the contempt of millions of people because they magically think that you’ll always win, despite the fact sport leagues are zero-sum endeavors. Just clip coupons and rake in the cash.

    And the Packers are in good shape when it comes to things like stadiums, sponsorships and merchandising. Look at teams that need new stadiums — 49ers, Raiders, Saints, Vikings… They couldn’t possibly afford them under the current deal. They’d never make enough money to pay them off without cutting roster salaries, thus giving people a third-rate team for decades as their franchise can’t compete in the FA market and constantly lose their good players.

    And, third, never did the NFLPA* (from all I’ve read) ever actually move off of any of their positions. When one side refuses to move, it’s not a negotiation, it’s a demand for surrender and a prequel to a litigation or pre-determined rejection of anything but complete surrender. Whereas the NFL moved, moved again, and moved again.

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