A note regarding our stake in the lockout

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We’ve been trying hard to strike a fair balance in the labor dispute, urging both sides to be fair and criticizing statements, positions, and tactics that need to be criticized.  As a result, some folks who get upset when we criticize one side overlook  that we’ve also criticized the other side, and vice-versa.  Thus, we’ve been accused of being shills for the NFL, and we’ve been accused of being in the tank for the players.

Frankly, we don’t care how they figure out the proper procedures for cutting up a pie that soon will exceed $10 billion per year in revenue.  There’s enough money to go around, and the challenge at this point seems to be striking the right long-term balance.  Regardless of the percentage points on which the parties agree, no one on either side of the table will be going broke.

That said, we think it’s fair and appropriate at this point to disclose our stake in the situation.  Because our overall interests are driven by site traffic (Charlie Sheen says, “duh”), we want our traffic to be higher.  Right now, our traffic is lower than it would be if a lockout hadn’t happened.

So, yes, it’s in our interests for the lockout to end.  Preferably, it’ll happen through a negotiated compromise that allows everyone to move forward cooperatively and successfully, before significant long-term damage is done to the game — which in turn would diminish fan interest in the sport and thus impact our long-term traffic projections.  If a deal can’t be reached by April 6, it’s in our interests for the players to prevail on their motion for preliminary injunction, since that would end the lockout, launch free agency (the biggest traffic week of the year for us), and allow football to continue while the Brady case plays out in a Minnesota court.

We believe that our interests mesh completely with the fans’ interests.  The fans want this to end, before the game they love suffers harm that could take years to heal.  Though the league and the players can pretend to care about the fans, they only care about their own interests.  Anything they do that also benefits the fans’ interests is coincidental.

Thus, we acknowledge our bias in this regard — we want the lockout to end, quickly.  Since we’d feel the same way if we were merely fans and not financially invested in the process, it won’t be affecting our opinions or our coverage in any way.

Meanwhile, we fully expect the NFL to disagree with some of the things we say about the situation, and we fully expect the players to disagree with some of the things we say.  It only means that we’re maintaining objectivity as it relates to the two sides, and that we’re pursuing aggressively the overlap between our interests and the fans’ interests — getting this nonsense resolved as soon as possible so that we can all get back to enjoying the NFL offseason.

UPDATE:  As at least one reader has pointed out, NBC is one of the networks that agreed to pay the NFL during a lockout.  That same reader inaccurately claims that NBC owns PFT.  NBC doesn’t own PFT.  Our content is exclusively licensed to NBC, and PFT retains full editorial control over that content.  So we have the ability to say whatever we want on any topic that we desire.  For example, The Office isn’t nearly as funny and clever as it used to be.

60 responses to “A note regarding our stake in the lockout

  1. Yeah, we knew that. People are going to get tired of coming here just to read stories about lawyers, or your bank account. Thanks for owning it, though.

  2. Naw. No buying it, you’ve been a shill for the owners from the outset. Only in the last couple of days after you got called out, have you become unbias and coverage has been balanced. I’m actually enjoying the post’s now, since you are questioning both sides, which is good.

  3. Mike, I have posted 2 letters to you regarding the labor strife that have not come through. What else can I do differently to post?

  4. It looks like things are working for now so here goes.
    Dear Mike, We as fans need to make a substantial statement to let the owners and players know that the fans are important. You hit the nail on the head when you said the main argument is over future higher revenues. The big boys need to know that revenues can go down and significantly.
    So far we have threatened to cancel our season tickets, Direct TV sunday tickets, and avoid buying game jerseys for our favorite terrier. The big boys think we’ll be right back with money in hand.
    I propose a fan lockout/blackout on April 1st. We fans should avoid all media outlets that are connected to NFL, i.e. ESPN, NFL network and radio, and heaven-forgive-me, PFT. Your site is now the elephant in the room. I hear many of the media boys quoting your reports when discussing a hot topic. If we all would stay away on the first of April, the silence would be DEAFENING. The billionaires and millionaires might believe we are serious about spending elsewhere in the future.
    If that does not work, I propose a total fan avoidance of the NFL draft on that day. Hopefully, the initial effort would stimulate a resolution before the draft so that our offseason rebuilding could commence immediately.
    Though a one day hit to your traffic would hurt, it would hopefully grease the rails for a quick resolution to the labor strife. It would be a loud statement so please consider promoting/reporting this fan initiative.
    C’MON FANS, LET’S BE HEARD ON APRIL FIRST. STAY AWAY THAT DAY.

    Sincerely, Tommy the K

  5. @duane … I actually disagree with you a bit. Early on, I thought the coverage was really slanted in favor of the players but, when they walked away and decertified, it definitely swung more towards the owners.

    Personally, I don’t really care. I just want them to get it sorted out and get back to work.

  6. I never thought you were driven by bias. Nor is it driven by insane rants either by the writers or readers. That’s why PFT is a great place – it’s fun, entertaining, and has an intelligent following.

    I believe the comments by readers are very diverse – but if your slant is too much one way, you can always find a pattern of opposite opinions and be blinded in seeing the diversity. I welcome the differing opinions, for it only serves for a more entertaining experience.

    You guys give equal coverage to all to both sides – and equal as in taking shots when the either party deserves it and painting them in a good light when earned.

    I have,though, noticed recently that there is a faction of readers – seemingly long time readers- who think the newer readers are all NFL owner blog-stuffers. A totally ridiculous charge, probably inspired by having to share a growingly popular site with more people and having the little cliques get trampled on.

    The new readers are probably like me, looking for a good group to interact with and get through this crap. We mean no harm and have no agenda other than to talk football with some sane people instead of knuckleheads.

  7. It is in our (all of our) interests to do all lockout all the time.

    Inundating ourselves with no other football news will increase anger and in turn apathy.

    Both owners and players have shown a keen interest in our emotions. Strong anger (and definitely apathy) will place strong pressure on both parties to get back to the business of football.

    It is already working as both sides have made motions this week toward continuing talks through settlement. Now is the time to increase pressure.

    They have shown in the past that they are interested in getting a deal done only insofar as we demand it loud enough. When we back off and start patting one side or another on the back talks break down.

    We behave as if it is owners vr players when really it is them (players and owners) vr us (fans)

  8. orbearider66 says:
    Mar 20, 2011 3:05 PM
    @duane … I actually disagree with you a bit. Early on, I thought the coverage was really slanted in favor of the players but, when they walked away and decertified, it definitely swung more towards the owners.

    Personally, I don’t really care. I just want them to get it sorted out and get back to work.

    Agree 100% with your last sentence. 9 Billion Dollars and growing, get the deal done and back to work!

  9. I don’t think PFT itself has been shills for the owners as much as the posters sent here by the NFL/league. In duanethomas’ post above, his approval of a balanced presentation was heavily ‘thumbs down’ – take a guess by whom. If PFT is getting less traffic, part of the reason might be regular posters have grown tired of the comments filled with league propaganda.

  10. @tommythek
    “I have posted 2 letters to you regarding the labor strife that have not come through. What else can I do differently to post?”

    Are you sure you included the correct postage on your envelope?

  11. If the owner’s books were filled with nothing but legitimate business expenses, and cracking them open (in private) would be all that was necessary to put this whole conflict to rest, don’t you think they’d have done it – rather than devoting all their resources towards preventing it?

    Exactly.

  12. duanethomas says: Mar 20, 2011 2:49 PM

    “Naw. No buying it, …”

    At least you’ve given up on hollering “1st” in every article…

  13. “I have,though, noticed recently that there is a faction of readers – seemingly long time readers- who think the newer readers are all NFL owner blog-stuffers. A totally ridiculous charge…”

    @Kave Krew: How would you know it is ridiculous? What is ridiculous : posters calling other posters ridiculous.

  14. I think PFT has been open and even handed from the get go. The writers here may be professional smart as_ses but owners & players get treated alike.

    Every marketing campaign these days has a viral element – twitter, blogs. It’s taught in schools. It’s business as usual.

    It’s blindingly obvious to me that the owners have mobilized such a campaign on several high profile blogs such as this one.

    It’s got to ridiculous lengths with routine articles here getting dozens of comments 100% slamming the players with many of them showing amazing ignorance of the game of football and the players.

    These are not football fans blowing off steam. They are not a true indicator of the feelings of fans at large.

  15. In the end actually lawyers and laws are ruining this sport. Labor law, antitrust law, player lawsuits, collective agreements as we see can take over the business.

    It would have been better if the NFL had started/stayed as one business w franchise wide rules like the cap and FA. Then if you wanted to ‘work’ as a football player you could for what would have been ridiculous comp in any event.

  16. I Don’t think the writers/ staff here shill as much as the outside people/shills told to make new accounts and post. Clearly the site has been inundated with new posters heavily slanted in the owners favor. And clearly they are being told to disseminate a message to that effect. By whom? I’ll give you 3 guesses and the first 2 don’t count.

  17. endzonezombie says: Mar 20, 2011 4:03 PM

    “I have,though, noticed recently that there is a faction of readers – seemingly long time readers- who think the newer readers are all NFL owner blog-stuffers. A totally ridiculous charge…”

    @Kave Krew: How would you know it is ridiculous? What is ridiculous : posters calling other posters ridiculous.

    _________________________________________________

    No doubt you believe that man didn’t land on the moon, that aliens have landed and that 9/11 was a CIA plot.

    He called it ridiculous because the only people that really think that walk around with tin-foil caps.

  18. How many times do some of you have to be told, the owners offered to show 5 years of the books and the union declined!

  19. I know I am a lone voice in the wilderness here, and will undoubtedly get tons of thumbs down, but I am going to make my point anyway.

    I think everyone’s overreacting. I am stunned by the amount of people that DIDN’T think this was going to happen. It was heading in this direction all along, and all is going according to plan.

    The fact is, the players and owners haven’t deprived us of ANYTHING, and won’t until the first Sunday in September comes along with no football.

    Saying that they have deprived us of the pleasure of enjoying the free agent process that would be going on now is like saying you are angry that Ford deprived you of the pleasure of watching your car being built.

    The NFL “product” is games on Sundays. And merchandise, which is still available. Just because there is so much off-season activity that you enjoy following, you don’t pay for it and don’t have a “right” to it.

    Right now, two groups of businessmen (and that’s what players, who each negotiate their own contracts in terms of their individual compensation, really are) are renegotiating their partnership. Happens all of the time in business.

    If the first Sunday in September comes and there are no games, I will be yelling right alongside you. For now, I will relax and enjoy the coming Spring.

  20. I’ve seen newbies show up on both sides…union and owners. These conspiracy theorists are mostly of the slant that the newbies are pro owner. If you make the charge, you should have something to back it up. How do we KNOW that the newbs on either side weren’t longtime readers or new readers simply spurred to post by a topic that affects all of us fans? We don’t.

    That said, who cares if there are shills on either side? Is this a matter of us being the decision makers on world peace or something?

    I try to evaluate each post for the points it makes and the methods it uses, not what “side” it is on. I’ve seen intelligence and ignorance on both sides.

  21. I think if you’re a real fan you don’t want it to end QUICKLY, you want it to end CORRECTLY — as in a deal that is fair to all parties and fosters the long-term success of the game of professional football. Those may not be the same thing.

  22. realitypolice…tsk tsk…didn’t you say you weren’t going to post on any more labor related posts? 😉 (I don’t care, just had to rag on you after your point about people who said they’d quit football continuing to post when gamedays arrive) 😀

  23. @realfann

    Sadly, I don’t think it IS a concerted effort by the NFL. With the current attitudes toward Unions and collective bargaining in general that has swept this country, I honestly think people STILL blame Unions for this country’s economic downturn and are taking it out by siding with the owners.

    What’s funny is, if the NFL could pack up its business and employ Chinese or Mexican workers to play at the level of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, for the fraction of pay, the most certainly would.

    But NOT because they can’t make money with a UNION partnership. It would be because they could make RIDICULOUS profits without it. UNIONS did not send a SINGLE job overseas, EVER. GREED in the name of profit did. Unions were just a convenient scapegoat. Workers in China make less per hour RIGHT NOW, than the U.S. minimum wage was in the 1980s. HOW CAN ANYONE, even non-union workers, compete with THAT?

    But they can’t. Why? Because unlike some on this site, they KNOW without the best players IN THE WORLD being happy, they would have an operation that is more like the UFL than the NFL.

  24. @realitypolice:

    Agree, to some extent. The product on the field come September will be weaker, though, if the lockout persists for a significant enough time — to extend your analogy, maybe I don’t have to see my car being built, but I’d drive it a lot easier knowing that the builders weren’t given the blueprints only the day before. . .

  25. It’s the off season anyway. Let them (players, owners, lawyers, judges, and anyone else) get it worked.

    Meanwhile, will someone get those incompetents aka politicians in DC working fixing gas prices, because sooner than later the only people that will be able to afford to fill their tank will be those rich people mentioned in the first paragraph.

  26. Let’s get some replacement players and be done with it…on with the show!

    There’s plenty of people on the sidelines that want to get in the game, and apparently all the fans keep saying, “We just want to see some football.’

  27. Mar 20, 2011 5:19 PM
    realitypolice…tsk tsk…didn’t you say you weren’t going to post on any more labor related posts? (I don’t care, just had to rag on you after your point about people who said they’d quit football continuing to post when gamedays arrive)
    ====================

    I’m busted. 😛

    No defense, except I was getting bored only commenting on draft posts.

    I’m actually happy someone remembers what I post.

    Also, I’ve lightened up on my position about people who are claiming they will boycott football.

    I understand they are acting on emotion. I still believe most of them will not, in fact, be able to stay away, but I understand why they feel that way.

  28. Um, if the point of this post is to disclose biases/conflicts of interest, shouldn’t you mention that PFT is owned by NBC, which has a lucrative broadcast deal with the NFL, which happens to be a central issue in the lockout? Not to mention the deal that was cut between owners and cable partners about the alleged “lockout insurance.” Not suggesting that’s compromising your coverage, but if the point of the post is to dispel suspicions that you might be – and then you don’t bother to mention the so-called “elephant in the room” – it kind of defeats the purpose, right? Just saying…

  29. realitypolice says: Mar 20, 2011 5:37 PM

    I’m busted. 😛

    No defense, except I was getting bored only commenting on draft posts.

    I’m actually happy someone remembers what I post.

    Also, I’ve lightened up on my position about people who are claiming they will boycott football.

    I understand they are acting on emotion. I still believe most of them will not, in fact, be able to stay away, but I understand why they feel that way.
    ___________________________________
    You’re one of my favorite posters so I do pay att’n. 🙂

    Agreed…I look at the people who say they will quit like I look at some of the comments on my team’s (and any other team’s) board on gameday threads. “FIRE THIS PERSON, BENCH THAT PERSON, THIS GUY SUCKS!!!!!!”…emotion in the heat of the moment with some truth behind it.

  30. @gchopra1

    Good grief. Look at the name of this website in your address bar and then let your eyes gently wander to the top of the page and see what a wonderful job is being done of hiding the ownership of this blog.

  31. similis says:
    Mar 20, 2011 3:58 PM
    God, I’m getting tired of hearing the term “cut up the pie”
    ******************

    Especially since I feel as if I’m the pie.

  32. gchopra1 says:
    Mar 20, 2011 5:41 PM
    “Not suggesting that’s compromising your coverage”
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    Yes you are. That is exactly what you are suggesting.

  33. bunjy96 says:
    Mar 20, 2011 4:56 PM
    How many times do some of you have to be told, the owners offered to show 5 years of the books and the union declined!
    *****************

    Apparently I need to be told again because I was under the impression that the owners offered five years worth of partial information and nobody really knows for sure if that information was sufficient or not due to conflicting reports as to what exactly the owners offered.

  34. Realitypolice,

    hi. I’m guessing you knew you would hear from me. I really do like you and look for your posts.

    you said this:

    “The fact is, the players and owners haven’t deprived us of ANYTHING, and won’t until the first Sunday in September comes along with no football.

    Saying that they have deprived us of the pleasure of enjoying the free agent process that would be going on now is like saying you are angry that Ford deprived you of the pleasure of watching your car being built.”

    I will simply reply with this fact:

    The first day of free agency is ALWAYS the day this website is most frequently visited in both terms of individual IP addresses and total hits. Meaning that lots of different people come to this website REPEATEDLY on the first day of free agency.

    So when it comes to the NFL, we like to watch our cars being built.

  35. “The Office isn’t nearly as funny and clever as it used to be.”

    You better be careful, you might be joining Conan soon if you keep that kind of talk up.

  36. Well, Mike, I personally won’t believe [i]anything[/i] on the current status of the negotiations unless it comes from Chris Kluwe. 🙂

  37. Well, Mike, I personally won’t believe anything on the current status of the negotiations unless it comes from Chris Kluwe. 🙂

  38. Your post is BS! You occasionally say something critical of the players, just so you can write crap like in this post. You are totally in the players’ corner, but it is your blog so you can do what you want. Why not be honest about it?

  39. Since the owners are begging to have negotiations, but the players refuse, why not publish the email address, phone number, and other contact info on the NFLPA* and encourage fans to contact the NFLPA* and tell them to get back to the negotiating table?

  40. ditkadontbutkus says:
    Mar 20, 2011 5:32 PM
    @realitypolice:

    Agree, to some extent. The product on the field come September will be weaker, though, if the lockout persists for a significant enough time — to extend your analogy, maybe I don’t have to see my car being built, but I’d drive it a lot easier knowing that the builders weren’t given the blueprints only the day before. . .
    =======================

    Go point.

    If this thing stretches much past the draft, it will no doubt effect the quality of play on the field for at least the first quarter of the season.

    If that happens, I will be right there with you criticizing them for short changing the fans.

    Again, we are not there yet.

  41. @morebrocato says: Let’s get some replacement players and be done with it…on with the show!

    I happen to like the real players. How about some replacement owners!

  42. Dude what a great idea!

    The Buffalo Bills traded a second round pick for Kevin Kolb the moment after superfan “Buffalo Billy Joe” took over as replacement owner. Who would have ever thought the Bills were capable of such a sensible offseason move?

    In related moves the Indianapolis Colts resigned a defensive free agent as their first official move by replacement superfan Toe4.

  43. If a deal can’t be reached by April 6, it’s in our interests for the players to prevail on their motion for preliminary injunction, since that would end the lockout, launch free agency (the biggest traffic week of the year for us), and allow football to continue while the Brady case plays out in a Minnesota court.

    We believe that our interests mesh completely with the fans’ interests. The fans want this to end, before the game they love suffers harm that could take years to heal.
    ————————–
    I believe you. That explains all your comments for the owners to concede to virtually everything with the players. That’s explains why you want the owners to help out the players with their draft day faux pas. That explains why you want the players to meet with the owners if and only if the owners give up all their leverage in the decertification sham. The only way the offseason starts quickly is if the players win.

    Unfortunately, that’s bias under the guise of altruism. While the fans have no stake in how the money is divided up, it doesn’t mean the players are in the right. Several elements of their anti-trust lawsuit would threaten the competitive balance of the game.

  44. I brought this potential conflict of interest up in another news item, and I gotta say…+100 points for owning up to it. Ups my respect level for you guys for copping to it. Shows you are willing to practice a little of what you preach regarding other outlets.

  45. @toe4:

    Surprised it took so long.

    I agree with you. In fact, I enjoy free agency and love the draft. I’m not saying that I am jumping for joy that these things are being compromised.

    My point is that as entitled as we would like to believe we are, we don’t have a right to these things.

    We are just going to have to accept that the owners chose to make this offseason about correcting what they saw as an imbalance in the CBA when they decided to opt out early. And that the players have chosen a strategy that most of us find distasteful.

    I try to pick my battles. This lockout was inevitable. Both sides have been planning for it for two years.

    In the end, the owners and players will compromise and take less than they wanted. Our compromise as fans, whether we signed up for it or not, is that we exchange one crappy off-season for 8-10 years of labor peace that will result from the new CBA.

    I believe that as much shock and outrage as both sides express publicly, this thing is actually moving along exactly as they privately thought it would, and that it will be worked out in time for September football. Or at least there will be a permanent injunction against the lockout, in which case we still get September football.

  46. There isn’t a whole lot you just wrote that I disagree with.

    I don’t feel as if I have a “right” to the offseason so much as I feel as if I “bought into it” and am full of vile and vinegar by way of showing both sides the danger of taking this route again in x years.

    It is possible to work things out without this sort of disturbance. If we sit back and relax about it this sort of disturbance will move from being the final option to the first, best hope… which I believe it was from both sides from the start.

  47. I suppose that should have read “bile” rather than “vile” but thanks for not mentioning it.

    I bought one of those mini netbooks a few months ago and my fingers aren’t used to the smaller keyboard. My typos have increased to Rosenthalian levels.

    Oh no he didn’t! 🙂

  48. Mike, I believe you and the other writers have done a fine job in keeping PFT’s perspective balanced. PFT still attempts to pique the public interest.

    Let’s hope that later this year there’s something for PFT to write about that’s positive. With the threat of extreme rule changes and the rather cavalier attitudes on both sides of the CBA, I don’t see a good future for the NFL.

    The NFL is dead.

  49. PFT has its own interest, which is the growth and well-being of PFT. I trust what I read here.

  50. @toe4:

    Careful mentioning site writers by name. They’ve been getting awfully touchy about that around here lately.

    Hopefully “X” years will be at least 8-10. And I imagine that the owners and players will care as much about what you and I think as they did this time.

    Squadoosh.

    Spell check that for me, Apple.

  51. Would be the first to call you out for bias, but have truly been impressed with your evenhandedness. No offense, Mike, but you weren’t much use to me during Roethlisberger’s legal troubles. I was tripping over my own collection of top-notch criminal defense attorneys. But this … a former employment attorney is a gift in a labor dispute. Too bad your traffic is down because you’re doing a wonderful job of putting these important issues into comprehensible language.

    Yes, you would think any fan with half a brain would be praying for the lockout to end so we could get on with free agency, etc. You shouldn’t have to be dependent on blog traffic to want that injunction. But some people are slow on the uptake. 😉

  52. “Our content is exclusively licensed to NBC, and PFT retains full editorial control over that content”….

    Any chance you can point us to all the postings you did about the Olympics PRIOR to the Partnership between PFT and NBC?

  53. It’s also worth baring in mind your stance on things like international expansion. Of course you will be in favour of this because success will increase your traffic.

    However I’d say you weren’t representing the majority of US fans who have football taken away from them.

  54. I, for one, have noticed an influx of posters to this site that have largely been pro-NFL. It’s my opinion that it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the NFL is the real identity of these new posters, their mission being to sway public opinion to their side.

    I think that you, as the site owner, should be keen to the fact of this sort of thing happening, but you have not even remarked on this.

    No problem though, as I think the 80% of posters here that have at least one brain cell operating know what’s going on, despite the NFL’s best efforts.

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