Coughlin claims Giants didn’t get a chance to match Steve Smith offer

AP

Giants coach Tom Coughlin currently has plenty of reasons to be unhappy.  The latest reason comes from the manner in which the team’s single-season leader in receptions exited the building.

Coughlin said Thursday that the Giants didn’t get a chance to match the one-year contract offer receiver Steve Smith obtained from the Eagles.  “And we were told we were going to,” Coughlin said, per Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger.  Coughlin also said, according to Garafolo, that the “situation was like running a race but being in the locker room and not told the race had started.”  (That’s Garafolo’s quote, not Coughlin’s.)

Adds Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post:  “I’ve covered Coughlin a long time. He seems not only very [pissed] about how Steve Smith handled his exit, but genuinely hurt, too.”

That’s fine, but if the Giants wanted a chance to match any offer Smith received, they could have used the transition tag.  Of course, that would have cost much more than what the Eagles ultimately paid.

Moreover, there’s a chance that the Giants had already made it clear to Smith and/or his agent that the team wasn’t willing to guarantee any money in 2011 — or possibly that the Giants wanted to wait to sign Smith after Week One, at which point his base salary wouldn’t have been guaranteed.

Besides, the Giants had more than two full weeks to work something out with Smith, who by all appearances gave the Giants the first crack at keeping him around.  When Coughlin declared on Wednesday that Smith faces a “long haul,” maybe Smith decided that Coughlin was trying to scare away any other suitors in the hopes that Smith eventually would accept whatever the Giants had on the table.

Either way, Coughlin probably shouldn’t blame Smith for mishandling the situation.  Coughlin should probably blame himself, or at a minimum his front office.

115 responses to “Coughlin claims Giants didn’t get a chance to match Steve Smith offer

  1. Thats bs hes doing damage control because all of the Giants fans are rightfully pissed off at how their front office has dropped the ball over and over this offseason.

  2. You shouldn’t have waited for an offer to match, you should have offered first if you really wanted him.

  3. Coughlin’s just mad because he knows he can’t beat the Cowboys anymore without Steve Smith aka The Marlboro Man aka The Cowboy Killer. Not to mention Smith went to a strong division rival.

  4. Uhh you had forever to sign him. He’s been a free agent for weeks. And it wasn’t exactly a surprise he hit free agency this year, could of extended his deal a long time ago.

  5. You have gotta be kidding me. He is mad because a free agent accepted an offer with another team without first going back to the old team to see if they would now be serious about signing him. He is only upset because Smith is going to a division rival. Giants had plenty of time to make a deal so either he wasn’t a priority or they played a game with Smith and loss.

  6. Giants had the right of first refusal and didn’t even make an offer.

    Here’s a clue: when you offer NOTHING, there’s a good chance someone else will outbid you.

  7. Still boggles my mind that this team won a Super Bowl. They got hot at the right time and had a little help from a once in a lifetime catch by a below-average player…

  8. bull. steve smith sold out to the highest bidder. he is benedict arnold. dont give me this crap about it being a business. he waa offered 5 yrs 35 mill with 15 guqranteed laat year and the greedy back stabber balked then got hurt. now he goes to the enemy. f’him and his knee.

  9. Coughlin: We were expecting–no, promised–that Smith would wait around until whenever we got around to possibly making an offer.

  10. The Giants could have just offered him a contract to begin with and not wait to low ball the guy. If you want a guy on your team, show him you want him on your team. Steve Smith has to worry about his career, not wait around for the Giants to do nothing.
    Not a fan of Philly, but they are doing everything to make their fans happy after the lockout. They are going to be number one in the league in new merchandise sales.

  11. Exactly why would he want to go back to the Giants!? Losing team! He would of come to the Steelers but we don’t want him and his taint. LOL I love how we own you…

  12. Its safe to say the Skins are looking better than the G men going into this season..

    Hail suckas

  13. hey new york: CRY ABOUT IT SOME MORE. you lost a good player because of your hapless management and the eagles got him. my guess is he catches 4 tds in 2 games against you.

  14. Misinformation being spread on this post by the commenters:

    1. The Giants made an offer, Steve Smith didn’t accept it, and according to the Giants, didn’t give them the chance to match his higher offer from the Eagles.

    2. The Giants DID try to extend Smith during the season with a pretty big offer for a WR2, but he turned them down to test free agency…and then blew his knee out two weeks later.

  15. It’s Hakeem Nicks time to shine. And I cant think of another Giants receiver of the top of my head.

  16. At least he will have someone else to blame other than Matt Dodge when they blow another 4th quarter lead against the Eagles this year.

  17. Is Coughlin picking his nose in that picture?

    Is that how the giants pick their draft picks?

  18. fonetiklee says: Aug 11, 2011 12:35 PM

    The Eagles now have Eli’s top 2 favorite targets: Steve Smith and Asante Samuel

    AWESOME!!!!!!!

    Choke-lin is cryin the blues now, team is in ruins!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. You snooze, you lose.

    I wonder when Coughlin will be joining the likes of Chilly, Gruden and other overthehill HC’s that are no longer wanted in the NFL. Could Chin Cowher be headed to New York???

  20. fonetiklee says:
    Aug 11, 2011 12:35 PM
    The Eagles now have Eli’s top 2 favorite targets: Steve Smith and Asante Samuel
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    too bad you jacked this out of the “Most Popular” tab in the comments section for the ESPN.com article about smith joining the eagles.. you can at least give some credit to whomever was actually clever enough to think of it in the first place – i hope your pirated comment is saddled with endless DISLIKES, you unoriginal piece

  21. Tom – No One Likes you in the Locker Room—All your cap space is in 8 D Linemen (you can only play 4 at a time)–the GMen dropped the Ball… the Eagles continue to manipulate the Cap at will- and still have room to make Vick and DJax long term.

  22. last four season win totals, NY giants: 10, 12, 8, 10.

    although im not happy with the ultimate outcomes of the last three seasons….averaging 10 wins a year isnt exactly bad football. if reese doesnt know how to run a franchise, as one azzclown above opined, then what the heck are 75% of all the other gm’s in football doing who havent had near the success over the last four years that reese has had?

    as for smith….miss him and wish he was still a giant….but he wont do anything this year. hopefully he gets his career back on track in 2012.

  23. Coughlin wins “most crotchety” award every year! It seems like everything he says sounds like it came from a 19th century prospector.

  24. Eagles fans, please come on here knowing the facts. Giants offered him $35 mil last year (pre-injury), he declined. Giants also made him a guaranteed offer before he went to the Eagles, but it was a lower guarantee #. He simply went to the highest bidder. It’s not like the Giants DIDN’T offer a contract.

    Giants are up against the cap, and need to have room to sign players who will be ready in Week One. I hate that they lost Smith, but I understand what they did.

  25. Coughlin would have more of a complaint if Steve Smith wouldn’t have been a free agent for the 3 weeks prior … when the Giants could have freely signed him without even having to match an offer.

  26. “z0inks says: Aug 11, 2011 12:36 PM

    Giants had the right of first refusal and didn’t even make an offer.

    Here’s a clue: when you offer NOTHING, there’s a good chance someone else will outbid you.”

    Try not to make yourself look this asinine. The Giants did make smith an offer. Smith and his agent NEVER count-offered.
    Lets call a spade a spade. Smith is most likely pissed over a few things. He passed up a big contract last year and then got hurt (again). He was not going to be the #1 receiver in New York unless Nicks got hurt and may have not even been #2 with the way Manningham can play. Being out of training camp Victor Cruz, Michael Clayton or Calhoun might have pushed him to #4.

  27. It’s called “CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS” Coughlin. Maybe you should read a book???

    He who gets there first with the most $$ wins.

    Now you can watch S. Smith LIGHT UP your secondary and Ross for the next 10 years.

    So glad that NYG pompous front office got smacked in the face with Boss and Smith.

    6-10

  28. Coughlin is always blaming his players.

    Sounds like he thought SS wouldn’t get much action anywhere so he was low balling him. Eagles swooped in made a much better offer so SS signed. Was he supposed to keep begging the giants?

  29. Thanks Steve, we’ll always appreciate your short but memorable NFL career… Good luck in your next endeavour, whatever it may be.

  30. I love when Eagles fans and other NYG haters try to act like the NYG and Tom Coughlin aren’t some of the most respected people in the business. If it weren’t for the Giants, the height of the current television popularity, and the growth of the NFL as a whole wouldn’t have been possible, do your research. No one, and I repeat, NO ONE goes to Philadelphia to win a ring. This organization is a joke, there is a paper champ every season, and every season that team either misses the playoffs or is one-and-done. Mike Vick is still their QB, and VINCE YOUNG is their backup, what a joke. That kid couldn’t handle Tennessee, now he thinks he’s going to enjoy the “Dream Team” in Philadelphia. Babin had one good season, Nhamdi is 30 years old, and Steve Smith will miss at least 5 weeks, bet. Maclin is done, any one who thinks that kid isn’t going to miss at least a number of weeks is out of their mind, and oh yea, Mike VIck is their QB. SS is being paid about 4 times the amount of money D Jackson is, good luck with that. SS will also be hurt the week after he actually returns, if he at all, because he’ll be trying to hard to prove his haters wrong. And one last thing, the NYG offered SS a lucrative, long term contract extension last season, BEFORE he was hurt and he turned it down, to test the market.

  31. Giants have done sheet in a long time as far as free agents are concerned. Both new York teams can go fishing.

  32. Just like it was the punters fault that you gave up a 31-17 lead with 7 minutes to go.

    I love how Coughlin made sure that the whole world new he told him to punt it out of bounds by coming onto the field and saying “I told u to punt it out of bounds” over and over and over again so that everyone would see. I have never seen a coach do anything like that

  33. @melon, yea very smart idea, because the head coach of the team is the guy who offers the contracts to the players.

  34. djstat says:
    Aug 11, 2011 12:36 PM
    bull. steve smith sold out to the highest bidder. he is benedict arnold. dont give me this crap about it being a business. he waa offered 5 yrs 35 mill with 15 guqranteed laat year and the greedy back stabber balked then got hurt. now he goes to the enemy. f’him and his knee.
    ————————-

    What, are you going to cry? LOL. It IS a freaking business, champ. Go wipe your tears into She-li Manning’s period stained underwear.

  35. Yes the giants are idiots! Thanks for smith, he’ll be nice in the second half of the season…. Really good possession WR.

  36. Looks like this one goes on NY Sports Torture Checklist for 2011

    1) Steal Asomugha from the Jets
    2) Steal Steve Smith from the Giants
    3) TBD

    Last year’s list (2010)

    1) Eliminate Rangers from playoffs during last game.
    2) Steal Cliff Lee from Yankees
    3) Beat the Giants at home by overcoming a 21 point deficit in 8 minutes with Jackson scoring on a walk-off PR.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  37. Wow…..Giants are a mess. I hate to see the division go to the Eagles…….the only team more arrogant than the Jets.

  38. I feel like Giants have been on a slight downslope since their superbowl victory, and this year is going to be where the stope gets steep. Yikes.

    Hopefully the Eagles don’t pull a Vikings and bankrupt their future on a failed run, I’d enjoy that too much.

  39. The giants will go 7-9 this year. Coughlin will lose that locker room. Not his fault though, reese doesn’t want to pay anyone.

  40. So the Giants said “we only value you as much as another team values you” and then gets upset when he goes to the other team that actually wants him?

  41. What diff does it make that they offered him a contract worth 35 mil last year? That has nothing to do with this year. He was a free agent this year. You didnt offer him a contract this year. How can coughlin be upset he wasn’t able to resign him? Because he declined last years offer, you knew he was going to be a free agent this year. You had 3 weeks to make him an offer this year and you didn’t do it. Now your crying because he left? Too funny.

  42. torturedraiderfan says:
    Aug 11, 2011 1:14 PM
    Wow…..Giants are a mess. I hate to see the division go to the Eagles…….the only team more arrogant than the Jets.
    —————

    Arrogant is not usually a word you hear with the Eagles, especially the fans.

    There is a saying I’m fond of: “No one hates the Eagles more than Eagles fans.”

  43. I used to have some respect for Coughlin, he always came across as a hard-nosed, old-school, no nonsense kind of guy.

    He royally screwed this one up though. Why go in the media and talk about a guy’s injury like that? Then turn around and bitch you couldn’t sign him?

    CLEARLY the G-Men could have signed Smith

    OBVIOUSLY they offered him some dinky contract

    If anything, you tell the player to his face “You have a long haul”. You don’t talk to the media like about a player you want to keep around

  44. djstat says:Aug 11, 2011 12:36 PM

    bull. steve smith sold out to the highest bidder. he is benedict arnold. dont give me this crap about it being a business. he waa offered 5 yrs 35 mill with 15 guqranteed laat year and the greedy back stabber balked then got hurt. now he goes to the enemy. f’him and his knee.

    ———

    You, sir, are a complete moron

  45. nygwvu2011 says: Aug 11, 2011 1:01 PM

    I love when Eagles fans and other NYG haters try to act like the NYG and Tom Coughlin aren’t some of the most respected people in the business. If it weren’t for the Giants, the height of the current television popularity, and the growth of the NFL as a whole wouldn’t have been possible, do your research. No one, and I repeat, NO ONE goes to Philadelphia to win a ring. This organization is a joke, there is a paper champ every season, and every season that team either misses the playoffs or is one-and-done. Mike Vick is still their QB, and VINCE YOUNG is their backup, what a joke. That kid couldn’t handle Tennessee, now he thinks he’s going to enjoy the “Dream Team” in Philadelphia. Babin had one good season, Nhamdi is 30 years old, and Steve Smith will miss at least 5 weeks, bet. Maclin is done, any one who thinks that kid isn’t going to miss at least a number of weeks is out of their mind, and oh yea, Mike VIck is their QB. SS is being paid about 4 times the amount of money D Jackson is, good luck with that. SS will also be hurt the week after he actually returns, if he at all, because he’ll be trying to hard to prove his haters wrong. And one last thing, the NYG offered SS a lucrative, long term contract extension last season, BEFORE he was hurt and he turned it down, to test the market.
    ===================================

    Do you feel better now? Here, have a Tums. It must be awful to see this “joke” of an organization pull ahead of “some of the most respected people in the business” both in the FO and on the field. And my apologies if I give more credibility to Nnamdi’s opinion than yours on whether people go to Philadelphia because they want to win. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself more than anyone else.

  46. A bit of a slap to the face of the Giants by Smith, but who knows what was going on behind the scenes to make Smith not even allow the Giants to see if they would match or increase the Eagles’ offer. Manningham and Nicks will both be very good, but Smith, when healthy, was a clutch guy, and was a big part of the offense. Looks like Cruz and Hixon will get their chances now. Cruz could be a sleeper this year if he is named the 3rd WR. Boss is gone, so that relief valve will have to be effectively replaced, and I don’t think Beckum is that guy, but time will tell.

  47. Reid seems to be accepting chaos in the first few games, with all the new players, so he has a powerhouse down the stretch. Smith’s signing makes me think Maclin may be further away from playing than Reid hopes.

  48. If Coughlin should be pissed at anyone, it should be Jerry Reese and the FO. They thought that BS comment about Smith being “a ways away from playing”, would scare off other teams ,but they were wrong. Eagles were just a smarter organization.

  49. Right, they minimized S.Smith once, by not offering a fair deal he was satisfied with. Coughlin expects a player to open himself up to be marginalized again by not matching an offer they bring to the table?

    I’ve worked for people like that. Sentimentality is nice, but it’s generally regarded as a two-way street. Business is business.

  50. as a giants fan I was upset about the lack of movement and how ill prepared the organization was in this free agency and then I thought about it. While Boss and Smith WERE Eli’s favorite targets Nicks (who only played in 12 games I think or 13) and Manningham (who was also cut short bc of injury) stepped up huge and wound up to be more go to than those guys. Also, management has trimmed the fat on the payroll now, while everybody is saying how poorly they are managing the cap that’s exactly what they are doing by NOT re-signing these players for way over their price tags. The Giants went through a microfracture surgery (Kenny Phillips) and knows what to look for in rehab so I am confident Smith is nowhere near ready if they said so and Boss is not worth what the Raiders gave him. As for the O-Line, they released 3 lineman (2 over-the-hill coming off major surgery and Seubert coming off a 2nd) that weren’t going to be ready either. All in all they cut their losses where they should have and still retained a core group of guys. Co hurts but they didn’t have the money but that is why Joseph or Austin must step up.

  51. I Love the post about Eli losing his one of his top two favorite targets, point being is Giants dropped the ball this offseason with losing Boss and Smith, Giants fans are always so mad for some reason, do they still have Matt Dodge??

  52. seabreezes51 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 1:53 PM
    This is great news for the Redskins. They have a great chance of finishing second in the NFC East now.
    ——————-

    HAHA. Well done.

  53. nygwvu2011 says: Aug 11, 2011 1:01 PM

    I love when Eagles fans and other NYG haters try to act like the NYG and Tom Coughlin aren’t some of the most respected people in the business. If it weren’t for the Giants, the height of the current television popularity, and the growth of the NFL as a whole wouldn’t have been possible, do your research. No one, and I repeat, NO ONE goes to Philadelphia to win a ring. This organization is a joke, there is a paper champ every season, and every season that team either misses the playoffs or is one-and-done. Mike Vick is still their QB, and VINCE YOUNG is their backup, what a joke. That kid couldn’t handle Tennessee, now he thinks he’s going to enjoy the “Dream Team” in Philadelphia. Babin had one good season, Nhamdi is 30 years old, and Steve Smith will miss at least 5 weeks, bet. Maclin is done, any one who thinks that kid isn’t going to miss at least a number of weeks is out of their mind, and oh yea, Mike VIck is their QB. SS is being paid about 4 times the amount of money D Jackson is, good luck with that. SS will also be hurt the week after he actually returns, if he at all, because he’ll be trying to hard to prove his haters wrong. And one last thing, the NYG offered SS a lucrative, long term contract extension last season, BEFORE he was hurt and he turned it down, to test the market.
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    1. Coughlin is a joke. He was about to get fired before Spagnulo’s defense turned it around. The defense and an amazing fluke catch won that Super Bowl. Otherwise, Coughlin would already be gone.

    2. If it weren’t for the Giants? This comment makes zero sense. It’s a large market. All large markets are important. Do YOUR research.

    3. Vick: ROTFL! You’e criticizing the guy who just about single-handedly dismantled your entire SEASON last year!?

    4. Young: Young will be a great backup for Vick. In fact, he’s probably the ideal backup because the playbook won’t change if Vick goes down.

    5. Nnamdi, Smith, Maclin: You have no effing idea what you’re talking about. You have no new info on Maclin or Smith, and you’re actually criticizing a guy who is arguably the CB in football…because he’s a whopping 30 years old?

    Watching you Giants fans go batshi* over the Eagles this year is truly, truly entertaining. Off to make popcorn.

  54. cardmagnet says: Aug 11, 2011 12:31 PM

    Coughlin’s just mad because he knows he can’t beat the Cowboys anymore without Steve Smith aka The Marlboro Man aka The Cowboy Killer. Not to mention Smith went to a strong division rival.

    Yeah it wasn’t Steve Smith that blew up Romo’s shoulder last year, dude. Go ahead and youtube that beautiful moment.

  55. Giants are the NFC version of the Pats. Make tough but smart decisions on well-liked players. What has that gotten us while all the other teams are out buying up overrated free agents??? Just a SB win and a bunch of playoff appearances the last decade.

    What have the Giants really lost this offseason?? Two lineman that still haven’t been picked up yet. An injury prone TE that caught a grand total of 35 passes last year and can’t run block for sheet. A WR who’s career is all but finished. Their 5th CB who was slated for extended ST duty.

    What have they gained?? Filling their only weaknesses….A bona fide return man (Hixon), another killer pash rusher (Kiwi), a 29 yr old DE who now is 2 yrs removed from knee surgery (Osi), and a bunch of 2nd/3rd year players primed to break out in a major way (Nicks, Manningham, JPP, healthy Bradshaw, healthy Kenny Phillips)

    To fans of the Bengals, I mean Eagles (sorry, I get your teams confused….you each have as many rings after all), Giants’ fans do not fear the paper crows.

  56. racerx2k11 says: Aug 11, 2011 1:45 PM

    Right, they minimized S.Smith once, by not offering a fair deal he was satisfied with. Coughlin expects a player to open himself up to be marginalized again by not matching an offer they bring to the table?
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    $35 mil over 5 years for a 4th year receiver is minimized? $15 mil guaranteed? Please realize we are NOT talking about a gamebreaker, ala Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, or Larry Fitzgerald. Steve Smith was an excellent receiver and a great chain mover/security blanket, but he was NOT a Top Tier WR.
    What about the offer made by the Giants was not fair?

  57. People…please take the time out to read nygwvu2011’s post! SS was offered a lucrative contract during the 2010 season but wanted top 10 money…then got hurt…the guy may not even play this year! So wake up people… He is damaged goods now so we wish him well! Can we play some football first before all the doom and gloom… I mean take your emotions out of it please!

  58. Wow, Eli’s top 3 targets will all be wearing Green this year……Plax, Steve Smith and Asante Samuel

  59. HAHA I can just picture Tommie with his wrists planted on his hips, all red in the face with that “somebody stole my lunch” look on his face. YOu know the one he had on his face as DJack was running down the field.

  60. It would be bad faith for the agent to go back to the Giants and offer them the same deal that he just negotiated with Philadelphia. It would also burn bridges between the agent and the Eagles.

    It’s just not an option that Steve Smith realistically would have had, to allow the Giants to match.

  61. The Giants tried to lowball Smith because of his injury and it backfired. Coughlin is so overrated. Spagnulo’s defense won the NY the superbowl. They have done nothing since he left.

  62. @ FONETIKLEE……….

    The Eagles now have Eli’s top 2 favorite targets: Steve Smith and Asante Samuel

    ___________________________________

    THATS THE FUNNIEST THREAD I READ IN A LONGGGGG TIME PROPS TO YOU !!!!!

  63. sdw2001 says:
    Looks like this one goes on NY Sports Torture Checklist for 2011

    1) Steal Asomugha from the Jets
    2) Steal Steve Smith from the Giants
    3) TBD

    Last year’s list (2010)

    1) Eliminate Rangers from playoffs during last game.
    2) Steal Cliff Lee from Yankees
    3) Beat the Giants at home by overcoming a 21 point deficit in 8 minutes with Jackson scoring on a walk-off PR.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    __________________________________

    Thats funny, how about the 09 list with the Yankees beating the Phillies in the World Series huh hahaha. Also you didnt steal Lee from the Yanks and you didnt steal Nnamdi from the Jets cause they were never on the teams to begin with. Im no Giants fan at all but when was the last time the Eagles won the SB compared to the Giants? Even though the Eagles have owned the Giants as of late their franchise hasnt won d**k compared to the Giants. Cant believe you actually made me defend the Giants but your offbase..

  64. No that losers right, I’m a ARROGANT EAGLES FAN! What my team has accomplished this year has never been done before, so there’s NO COMPARISIONS. And before you haters try that weak skins argument please remember you can’t compare washed up players they got with the pro bowlers in their primes we got. So hate on suckers
    …..GO EAGLES

  65. New chant at the Meadowlands this year:

    Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Jerry Reese has to go!

    Jerry – DO YOUR JOB. Show up like we do!

  66. As a Giants’ fan….I am SOOOO happy the team is being written off. Every time this happens, we kick arse like clockwork!! Its when we’re expected to win, we blow chunks.

    To Eagles’ fans….please keep the chest pumping comments coming. Especially the one with Smith and Assante being Eli’s two favorite targets (I actually liked that one!! props to the Eagles’ fan for some actual wittiness. That is hard to come by from Eagles’ fans since most live in homes that can be moved with a 3/4 ton pick up)

    By the way….you know deep down that when Smith shows the team his 07′ ring, that is as close to a ring as the Eags will get! 🙂

  67. I am picturing Eagles fans taunting Coughlin as they taste the sweet tears of his sorrows, much like Cartman did with Scott Tenorman after revealing the protein source of his special chili.

    Will only be funny if you know South Park, circa 2001.

  68. “…To fans of the Bengals, I mean Eagles (sorry, I get your teams confused….you each have as many rings after all), Giants’ fans do not fear the paper crows. …”

    NFC East Conference Titles Since 2000:
    Philadelphia = 6
    NY = 3
    Dallas = 2

    So, tell me again who is the best NFC East team in recent history?

    (BTW, NFC East Lombaries Since 2000 = 0, so all are equal on that front…)

    And just to comfort ourselves, Eagle fans can always replay the tapes of the original “Miracle at The Meadowlands”, or the “Miracle at The New Meadowlands” for laughs. Personally, I like Jackson’s return better than Edward’s, but they both are equally good for a memory of the Giants ineptitude. And for a HUGE amounts of laughs.

  69. Coach Coughlin is turning into as big a fool as Jerry Reese whom he works for. To dare cry that the Giants weren’t allowed to match another teams offer is ludicrious. This is a BUSINESS Tom and you clowns tried to lowball some folks. They not only called you on it but both Boss and Smith won the pot and you guys lose. LEARN from your mistakes and quit your bellyaching. Oh, and I’m a Giants fan.

  70. Mara is just happy to have sold out all his PSL’s, the front office could care less about making money, they have turned this proud franchise into a laughing stock, and I am pretty certain I will not watch 1 game this year.

    This old fool, and his pal Reese will be gone by this time next year, and Cowher will hopefully be there to try to right the ship, let’s see how many f-ups did the Giants make this off season??????

    1) Nearly lost Bradshaw
    2) Lost Cofield
    3) Lost Boss
    4) Lost Smith
    5) Could not close on Plex
    6) Could not sign ANY FA linebacker
    7) Drafted an injury prone greedy punk
    8) Did NOT draft Ingram
    9) Cut loose the anchors of their O-Line
    10) Signed some worthless center who has played 6 games in 3 seasons
    11) Did NOT cut Will Beatty who gained 30 pounds of pure fat this year

    I could keep going, but it’s making me sick to my stomach to continue!

    Poor Wellington has to be rolling in his grave!!!!

  71. No Steve Smith & no Kevin Boss is fine. Not the best offseason outcomes, but I still have faith. With the team they have, the Giants are still better than the Cowboys & Redskins. They’ll make a run at the Wild Card & go 10-6. Their defense will be shut-down this season & Eli will have the chance the finally air it out. I’m not worried. Coughlin is still a good coach & they have a lot of key players returning.

  72. laeagle –

    NFC East titles??? HAHAHA! Really? Us Giants’ fans could care less about those. That is what non-Lombardi winners measure success with. Go have that convo with Lions’ fans! HA

    Since 2000….you know you’d trade everything the everything the Giants have accomplished for everything the Eagles have accomplished quicker than you can count the teeth in an average Eagles’ fans’ mouth?

    Keep replaying your dopey Miracle at the Meadowlands II (a/k/a the game where the Eagles blew their nut). I’ll keep replaying Alford piledriving Brady to seal the greatest upset in the history of sports!!

  73. bdawk20 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 12:36 PM
    Still boggles my mind that this team won a Super Bowl. They got hot at the right time and had a little help from a once in a lifetime catch by a below-average player…
    _______________________________

    Good call. Cause the Cowboys and Packers teams that we beat were a fluke too. Right?

    Still soooo much chatter from the empty trophy case clan in green. If anyone is envious, it’s Philly. YOU’VE HAD ONE GOAL FOR 50 YEARS AND HAVE FAILED MISERABLY!

    Congrats on all the money you spent.

    Congrats on your Superbowl win in August.

    CHOKE ARTISTS OF THE CENTURY!!!

  74. jakek2 says:Aug 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    As a Giants’ fan….I am SOOOO happy the team is being written off. Every time this happens, we kick arse like clockwork!! Its when we’re expected to win, we blow chunks.

    To Eagles’ fans….please keep the chest pumping comments coming. Especially the one with Smith and Assante being Eli’s two favorite targets (I actually liked that one!! props to the Eagles’ fan for some actual wittiness. That is hard to come by from Eagles’ fans since most live in homes that can be moved with a 3/4 ton pick up)

    By the way….you know deep down that when Smith shows the team his 07′ ring, that is as close to a ring as the Eags will get!

    ———————

    Yes, I am sure you are super excited at the Giants prospects of winning this year.

    You should go pay $150,000 for a set of season tickets.

    Or perhaps, donate your money so the Giants open their free-agent pocketbooks next year.

  75. leagle911 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:05 PM
    “…To fans of the Bengals, I mean Eagles (sorry, I get your teams confused….you each have as many rings after all), Giants’ fans do not fear the paper crows. …”

    NFC East Conference Titles Since 2000:
    Philadelphia = 6
    NY = 3
    Dallas = 2

    So, tell me again who is the best NFC East team in recent history?

    (BTW, NFC East Lombaries Since 2000 = 0, so all are equal on that front…)

    And just to comfort ourselves, Eagle fans can always replay the tapes of the original “Miracle at The Meadowlands”, or the “Miracle at The New Meadowlands” for laughs. Personally, I like Jackson’s return better than Edward’s, but they both are equally good for a memory of the Giants ineptitude. And for a HUGE amounts of laughs.

    _______________________________

    NFC EAST Lombardi’s since 2000 = 0?!?!

    This is exactly what I expect from a true Philly fan.

    DO YOU EVEN WATCH FOOTBALL?!?!?!

  76. Of course you did not get chance to match the offer Couglin because you purposely put out false information in the media the day before to make him sound more injured than he was to try to hurt his value in he market so no one else would sign him. Control freaks like you Couglin what you do not realize is doctors can look for themselves for other teams and people like you with the invincability factor are to stupid to realize that and think they can influence a situation but you couldn’t Couglin and it is no coincidence the day after you tried to hurt the players value for your own selfishness that he picks the other team. He obviously considered coming back or he would not have waited till after your comments but Couglin what you did was bad business and for all practical purposes was an outright lie considering Smith says he is already cutting and thinks he can be ready in week one or two. Bottom line is what you did was not the Christian thing it was something of the Devils’s path not that you are always on that path but making someone sound more injuired then they are to try to make other teams stay away is plain and simple a devils action because any good actiuon of the world is of god should of studied more ethics and less manipulation Couglin.

  77. @elisnopunkbitch
    If they didn’t take Prince, (imo) the only players worth taking were Anthony Costanzo, Jimmy Smith, Phil Taylor, or trading down and taking Dent or Wisniewski, or Ryan Williams, not Ingram.

    And they didn’t lose Bradshaw, so how is that a f-up? They also didn’t overpay to keep Cofield.
    Not signing a linebacker sucked though.

  78. Polish your rod –

    Why shouldn’t I be excited? We’ve won a SB in the last 4 years, been to the playoffs a bunch of times, average 10 wins a year and were a fluky gun shot and bad turnover season away from doing much more damage.

    Like a Jets’ fan, Eag fans know that their seasons will most likely end with a big, fat, juicy “L”. On the other hand, us Giants’ fans know that we are always a late season hot streak away from adding ANOTHER shiny Lombardi trophy to our collection.

    I’m sorry that your team is jinxed.

  79. Yes, I am sure you are super excited at the Giants prospects of winning this year.

    You should go pay $150,000 for a set of season tickets.

    Or perhaps, donate your money so the Giants open their free-agent pocketbooks next year.

    _______________________________

    Actually, I paid $1500 for two seats.. Way to educate yourself moron.

    The Giants don’t break the bank for free agents. Never have, never will. Yet, we still have more rings than you? How does that happen bro?

    Good talk loser.

  80. raijinnokumo says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:43 PM
    @elisnopunkbitch
    If they didn’t take Prince, (imo) the only players worth taking were Anthony Costanzo, Jimmy Smith, Phil Taylor, or trading down and taking Dent or Wisniewski, or Ryan Williams, not Ingram.

    And they didn’t lose Bradshaw, so how is that a f-up? They also didn’t overpay to keep Cofield.
    Not signing a linebacker sucked though.
    —————
    Let me add….Prince is a 4th CB and ST-er. Ingram is Dayne 2.0. Bradshaw was signed for a song. Linval Joseph and Marvin Austin will make you forget about Cofield (a/k/a Cornelius Griffin) quick and Kiwi is like signing a LB. We’ll be just fine. If Eagles’ fans truly thought we’re the NFC East cellar dwellars, they’d be concentrating their hate on Dallas fans. They know perfectly well that we were a few too many fluky turnovers away from being 12-4 last year. No worries!

  81. jakek2 says:Aug 11, 2011 4:10 PM

    raijinnokumo says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:43 PM
    @elisnopunkbitch
    If they didn’t take Prince, (imo) the only players worth taking were Anthony Costanzo, Jimmy Smith, Phil Taylor, or trading down and taking Dent or Wisniewski, or Ryan Williams, not Ingram.

    And they didn’t lose Bradshaw, so how is that a f-up? They also didn’t overpay to keep Cofield.
    Not signing a linebacker sucked though.
    —————
    Let me add….Prince is a 4th CB and ST-er. Ingram is Dayne 2.0. Bradshaw was signed for a song. Linval Joseph and Marvin Austin will make you forget about Cofield (a/k/a Cornelius Griffin) quick and Kiwi is like signing a LB. We’ll be just fine. If Eagles’ fans truly thought we’re the NFC East cellar dwellars, they’d be concentrating their hate on Dallas fans. They know perfectly well that we were a few too many fluky turnovers away from being 12-4 last year. No worries!

    ——–

    Oh, how nice. You took away a couple of turnovers and won 2 more games….. So in your delusional mind, exactly how many turnovers = 1 win? That’s some serious voodoo math right there

    Also, your basically hedging your season on 3 rookies and a guy who nobody wanted to sign because he was coming off major neck surgery.

    By chance, did the Giants hire Mike Brown as a football consultant this off-season??

  82. This is the first season the Eagles have broken the bank, hell this is the first year we’ve opened the checkbook amd thats an understatement, we will def see what happens, going to be a great season

  83. polish the rod –

    I’m starting to think you don’t really watch football. Are you one of those Dungeons & Dragons fantasy football fans or what?

    1) Kiwi didn’t have surgery. Know your facts.
    2) What 3 rookies are you talking about? Austin is the only rook, who are the other two? Know your facts.
    3) We had 5+ Turnovers that bounced off receivers hands inside the 10 yd line and countless others after long drives that led to close losses.

    Why are you more concerned about my team than yours? Afraid much? Worry about your team and their lack of a decent OL, DL, LBs and safeties. Like every year, Eags are vastly O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D

  84. jakek2 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:21 PM
    laeagle –

    NFC East titles??? HAHAHA! Really? Us Giants’ fans could care less about those. That is what non-Lombardi winners measure success with. Go have that convo with Lions’ fans! HA

    Since 2000….you know you’d trade everything the everything the Giants have accomplished for everything the Eagles have accomplished quicker than you can count the teeth in an average Eagles’ fans’ mouth?

    Keep replaying your dopey Miracle at the Meadowlands II (a/k/a the game where the Eagles blew their nut). I’ll keep replaying Alford piledriving Brady to seal the greatest upset in the history of sports!!
    ———————–

    Let’s see. The Giants won a Super Bowl with a defense crafted by a former Eagles defensive coach and a fluke amazing catch by Tyree.

    And believe me, I for one wouldn’t trade being a classless dolt fan of a team with an effeminate barely-average QB for that one fluke of a SB.

    And the Miracle? Ha. That was almost as good as a SB. You guys were utterly humiliated by Michael Vick and DeSean Jackson in a period of 7.5 minutes…on national television. I’ll take it.

  85. jakek2 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:45 PM
    Polish your rod –

    Why shouldn’t I be excited? We’ve won a SB in the last 4 years, been to the playoffs a bunch of times, average 10 wins a year and were a fluky gun shot and bad turnover season away from doing much more damage.

    Like a Jets’ fan, Eag fans know that their seasons will most likely end with a big, fat, juicy “L”. On the other hand, us Giants’ fans know that we are always a late season hot streak away from adding ANOTHER shiny Lombardi trophy to our collection.

    I’m sorry that your team is jinxed.

    —————————

    Yes, you won a Super Bowl…against a Patriots team that was leaking oil and with a defense built by Steve Spagnulo…and with the help of a the greatest catch in SB history. You’ve done precisely NOTHING since that moment.

    And tell me…WHICH team get hot in December?

  86. jakek2 says:
    Aug 11, 2011 3:45 PM
    Polish your rod –

    Why shouldn’t I be excited? We’ve won a SB in the last 4 years, been to the playoffs a bunch of times, average 10 wins a year and were a fluky gun shot and bad turnover season away from doing much more damage.

    Like a Jets’ fan, Eag fans know that their seasons will most likely end with a big, fat, juicy “L”. On the other hand, us Giants’ fans know that we are always a late season hot streak away from adding ANOTHER shiny Lombardi trophy to our collection.

    I’m sorry that your team is jinxed.

    —————————

    Yes, you won a Super Bowl…against a Patriots team that was leaking oil and with a defense built by Steve Spagnulo…and with the help of a the greatest catch in SB history. You’ve done precisely NOTHING since that moment.

    And tell me…WHICH team gets hot in December?

  87. Yes, you won a Super Bowl…against a Patriots team that was leaking oil and with a defense built by Steve Spagnulo…and with the help of a the greatest catch in SB history. You’ve done precisely NOTHING since that moment.
    ————
    A Patriots team that was leaking oil? That’s rich! (no pun intended). Lets see, what have we done since. Well, until Plax blew a hole in his leg, were 10-1 and primed to repeat, and have averaged 10 wins since. If that is doing “precisely nothing”, then what exactly have the Eagles done except make their typical August headlines??

    By the way, the defense Spags left us is largely intact and the personnel now is actually better (save for Strahan). James Butler, Michael “toast” Johnson and Gibril Wilson have been replaced by Rolle and Phillips. The LBs are a wash and we’ve added to the DL which before included Fred Robbins (now a backup on the Rams).

    All fan talk aside…the only advantage that you have over us this year is that you left us with the second place schedule (we have GB and NO, where you have CHI and ATL).

  88. Why do grown men cry? That appears to be what every giants fan wants to do. You whine that Steve Smith disrespected the Giants – you should look at the facts and see the truth that it was Smith who he was disrespected. Many Giant’s fan have said Smith was offered a contract, and that he turned down a large contract last year. First off can someone logically tell me what turning down a long-term contract last year has to do with negotiations this year; if he was offered that this year he would have signed period, what he was offered last year is immaterial. Now for why Steve Smith left let’s look at the facts.

    Facts
    1. Smith was a free-agent and able to sign with any team
    2. Smith wanted to resign with the Giants, but the Giants disrespected him by:
    a. Offering him significantly less than the Eagles
    b. Publicly revealing an injury diagnosis to diminish his value (whether it was accurate or falsified is immaterial as it was the intention of divulging the information that mattered – I would tend to believe their public diagnosis was falsified slightly since they were upset that he left but that does not matter)
    3. If the Giants offer was significantly less than one would assume he was offered barely over the veteran minimum
    4. Smith’s agent let the Giants FO know that another team was interested in him, but instead of increasing their offer tried to diminish his value

    So what happened was the Giants FO played a game of chicken, they tried to downplay interest and diminish Smith’s value in the hopes that no one would be interested for more than the veteran minimum or slightly more which in turn he would have signed with the Giants and they were wrong. He only received 1.6% of the salary cap it is not like the eagles offered 5 million plus, they lost their player for probably less than a million dollars or less than 1% of the salary cap. There were even told someone else was interested and the arrogant bastrds thought it didn’t matter and then cry about him going elsewhere. The worst part is that following this Giants fans responded by telling Smith to f himself and wishing him injury on his facebook page. Seriously, Giants fans those comments should be directed towards your incompetent front office. I am an Eagles fan, but I am also a realist. We have a good team, I’m not going to go crazy about it like a lot of people because everyone knows they made good moves that’s not the point. The truth is I don’t know if Smith will even help us, but the idiotic rants need to stop. Wake up look at the truth and accept it. For god’s sake you should be thanking the man for what he did for your team and pissed at the FO. So now Giants fans I ask you what did Smith do to disrespect the Giants? The answer is nothing it was the Giants who disrespected him.

  89. Well Coughlin you and your front office have probably had plenty of contract conversations with Steve Smith since he got injured and during the 2 weeks or so since the lockout ended. Im sure you guys talked prices and you probably also got to a part where you were offering “this” much money and he was asking for “that” much money. And then you guys probably gave him a number and told him that you werent going to give him anymore then that.

    Well then if you guys gave him a cap for his salary this year that you wouldnt go over and that cap number was less that what the Eagles were offering him then their is no point to bring it back to you. You guys were the one that wanted to be hard asses and set a hard cap. So y bring the offer to you? You already said what you were willing to be and you lost out. Obviously you werent worried about going out of the way for Smith when u didnt extended his contract before his final year was up in NY so why should he go out of the way for you.

    It sounds like hes just whining to me. 1st you let him squirm and worry for half of 2010 season after he got injured about if you guys were going to bring him back, then you continued to do it after the lockout. Then you brought him in and low balled him. But your mad he didnt come running to you with an offer from the Eagles?

    You had your chance to sign him. You didnt think it was important enough. Just deal with it. Its your fault that he felt wanted more somewhere else, you should have shown him more respect when he was with you.

  90. While this seems to be a controversial issue I think the Fact Maclin has a serious mystery medical condition left the eagles desperate, so they decided to pick up the injured #3 receiver for the Giants who all Gmen fans know wont sniff the field and when he does will only be a shell of what he was… –

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