Brett Favre’s streak safe for years, maybe forever

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Today’s news that Peyton Manning will miss the first start of his NFL career on Sunday means that Manning’s streak of consecutive regular-season starts will end at 208 games. And that means Brett Favre’s record for consecutive starts by a quarterback is safe for a long, long time.

Favre started 297 straight regular-season games, a streak that began in September of 1992 and ended in December of 2010. That record will definitely stand for many years, and will probably stand for many decades.

When Peyton Manning sits out Sunday, he’ll hand the longest active streak to his younger brother, Giants quarterback Eli Manning, who is set to start his 104th consecutive game on Sunday against the Redskins. That’s an impressive achievement — but a long, long way from Favre.

Eli can play every game for the next 12 seasons and still not catch Favre. Assuming the NFL sticks to 16-game seasons, Eli wouldn’t break Favre’s record until the 2023 season, when he’ll be 42 years old.

After Eli, the next-longest active streak belongs to Chargers quarterback Phillip Rivers, who currently stands at 80 starts in a row. Rivers has started every game for five straight years, but he can play 13 more full seasons and still not break Favre’s record: Rivers would have to play every single game through 2024, the season when he’ll turn 43, to break Favre’s record.

As impressive as the streaks belonging to Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers are, it’s just not realistic to think they would keep playing into their 40s and never miss a game. So don’t count on Favre’s record being broken by either of them.

And once you get past Manning and Rivers, it’s anyone’s guess which quarterback might break Favre’s consecutive starts record. Joe Flacco, who has started the first 48 games of his NFL career? Maybe, but he’d have to play every week into 2026. Sam Bradford, who has started the first 16 games of his NFL career? Maybe, but he’d have to play every week into 2028.

Future quarterbacks hoping to break Favre’s record might need fewer years to do it, because the NFL might expand to 18-game seasons. But even if NFL seasons last 18 games, a quarterback will have to play 17 seasons without missing a game to break Favre’s record. That’s awfully hard to do — and might become harder if longer seasons lead to more injuries.

If Peyton Manning eventually gets healthy and gets back on the field, we’ll probably see him break Favre’s NFL records for pass attempts, completions, yards and touchdowns. But we won’t see him break Favre’s record for consecutive starts. We may never see anyone break that record.

101 responses to “Brett Favre’s streak safe for years, maybe forever

  1. Iron man Favre’s Record will stand for quite a long time, just as Emmitr Smith’s rushing record will. Players today are bigger stronger and faster. AND MOST JUST DONT HAVE THE GUTS OF AN EMMITT OR FAVRE

  2. Agreed. Favre was on the field the last two seasons mainly because he is Brett Favre. Manning wouldn’t take such pride in using his name to keep playing when his body wasn’t able. Sure, Favre had a great year in 2009 but at what cost? 2010 was a disaster because he took a beating in 09. Still, Manning would likely think more of his future as a functional human being than trying for such a record – he holds a record himself that may never be broken – most consecutive starts to begin a career. Flacco is the only one who is close so far at QB.

  3. The media makes such a big deal out of this “consecutive game starting streak”.

    Kinda like winning the award for perfect attendance throughout high school.

    It’s nice, but it doesn’t mean anything.

  4. Heard he might miss the season after having a 3rd surgery a couple days ago.

    “Jake Query, a radio host for WNDE in Indianapolis, is reporting that Colts’ QB Peyton Manning had a third neck procedure – either Sunday or Monday – and is out for the season. Nobody else has confirmed this and the Colts have not commented on Query’s report.”

  5. This is the third or fouth post mentioning Eli as the next in line. I kinda wish you would post the players who are next in line who arent QB’s. I dont think their is a specific statistic for each postion and consecutive starts. I know Ronde Barber, Jeff Backus, and a few others are 150+, several seasons ahead of Eli. You posts just make it seem that Eli as of Sunday will have started more consecutive games actively than anyone else and thats just simply not true.

  6. Say what you want about Eli, the dude is tough as nails.

    And before all the “he avoids hits by throwing off his back foot comments” are made, lets talk about when he played with a sprained shoulder in his SB year that Mort said would keep him out 2 months.

    There are countless other examples as well (playing 2 weeks after deep laceration suffered in Jets pre-season game)…off the top of my head.

  7. Jim Marshall played 282 straight games as a defensive end. 20 years. Thats WAY more impressive than Farve’s streak. It isn’t mentioned enough.

  8. Foolish record – relies more on luck than anything else. If a lineman comes down on your knee, you’re going to miss games. It has nothing to do with skill – it’s pure luck. If two players have the same number of starts, but one misses one game halfway through, did one of them do something better than the other?

    In-a-row records are lame. Who cares if a guy hits safely in 56 baseball games? I’d rather have someone go without a hit in one game and have a higher on base percentage.

  9. What is the big deal about PEYTON starting so many games in a row? How bout the games he STARTED and then QUIT? QUITTING the chase for an unbeaten season will forever define him.

  10. britishraven says: Sep 7, 2011 5:57 PM

    Looks like Favre’s interception record is safe forever

    I give Cutler and Eli a shot at breaking it.

  11. Why do I have this feeling I can’t shake that Manning’s injury is much more than a 1 game event? Why do I have this feeling that we have seen Peyton’s last game as a pro?

    Neck injuries……not good. Huge risk with paralysis, especially in a world where 325 lb mean-spirited men are paid to hit you…..hard.
    Over and over.

    Peyton seems to be a pretty smart fella, and could make oodles in the color commentator market, ala Collinsworth.

  12. all Haters! good for Brett, sucks for Peyton, but just cause you dont like a guy doesnt mean his record of toughness is questionable. half the people on here including me wouldnt last an NFL practice, much less a game…

  13. You can just hear his head(s) swelling from here.

    ‘Awesome, I’m being mentioned again…just awesome. I bet I can still thow this ball over those mountains.’

  14. @joker 65:

    20 years as a QB is far more impressive than 20 years as a DE. A DE can take defensive plays off, the QB is out there every offensive down getting hit. A QB relies on every body part to remain healthy in order to function. A DE can have a broken finger, hand, dinged knee and still play.

  15. Non-quarterback start streaks are much more impressive and it doesn’t make sense to me that they aren’t accounted for.

    A guy like Ronde Barber, who makes contact on every single play, starting over 170 straight games is downright remarkable. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a tall task, but a quarterback like Peyton — who has had an outstanding offensive line for the large majority of his career and gets rid of the ball before you can blink — isn’t quite as much.

  16. Regarding Brett Favre, what streak? Retiring then coming back? Thank goodness that streak is done.

    On the Manning note, based on what was weak in his arm, I think the surgeons nicked his Axillary nerve, which is why he felt numbness over his deltoid (what initial reports said). From an anatomy standpoint, it will take time to rebuild the deltoid muscles and the teres minor…both very important in throwing, or throwing with any force. If he misses the season, I would not be surprised, although I doubt he will allow that to happen.

  17. “Jim Marshall played 282 straight games as a defensive end. 20 years. Thats WAY more impressive than Farve’s streak. It isn’t mentioned enough.”

    Are you kidding me? The streak of a defensive end who started fewer games is WAY more impressive?

    Jim Marshall’s job was to set the edge and pressure the QB.

    Farve’s job was to lead the team, win games, and do so with 11 elite athletes hunting him on every single play.

  18. Ben Roethlisberger might not beat his consecutive start record, but I’ll bet he beats his record for most sexts in a season. Roethlisberger is a real man, he doesn’t stop at harassment like that wuss Favre.

  19. Looks like Favre’s interception record is safe forever

    Give Eli some time. He already has 113. If he continues at 25 a season he will catch Farve in about 9 seasons.

  20. ilovefoolsball says:
    Sep 7, 2011 5:59 PM
    The media makes such a big deal out of this “consecutive game starting streak”.

    Kinda like winning the award for perfect attendance throughout high school.

    It’s nice, but it doesn’t mean anything

    duece5 says:

    Well, you’re name, foolsball, says it all! You’ve NEVER done either of two.

    And, I couldn’t disagree with you any more. The consecutive games streak is an impressive account of longevity and toughness. Love or hate Favre, he had both of those qualities.

    Sounds like you never made perfect attendance, OR were chosen to play on the playground. Sorry dude, life is tough sometimes!!

  21. People make too big a deal about INT record. The guy had over 10k attempts with over 6k completions. In the grand scheme of things 300 is not that big a deal with especially with over 500TD’s. It was just the timing of those that really hurt.

  22. It’s even more remarkable considering Brett did it after the hip/car accident, back when rules didn’t protect qbs as much and back when Steve “Atwater” type guys were allowed to “Pop” players and before there were Tuck Rules or Brady Rules.

    I hate the dude for not puttin’ the team on his back (stabbin’ the team in the back don’t count), but man. You gotta respect the dude’s toughness.

  23. canetic –

    interesting argument in whose streak is more impressive Favre vs. Marshall. I might have to disagree with you and go with Marshall. QBs take half the plays off handing off to RBs and Marshall played in an era where refs didn’t throw flags for breathing too hard on a guy.

  24. joker65 says:

    Jim Marshall played 282 straight games as a defensive end. 20 years. Thats WAY more impressive than Farve’s streak. It isn’t mentioned enough.

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    It’s been mentioned and has NOTHING to do with the subject of Quarter Back play… And what makes it more impressive? Favre still had more starts, 297. And Jim’s job was to punish the QB!!!

  25. People need to relax on Eli catching Favre’s interception’s record. Last year was a fluky high year for Eli and half of the INTs were tipped balls not overthrows or CBs jumping routes. He’d still need to play to age 40 to catch Favre if he threw 25 per year. Haters need to worry about having the likes of Gross Rexman, the vastly overrated Mark Sanchez and 9-game season Vick before ragging on Eli

  26. Jim Marshall’s 270, considering the position he played and how violently he played it, still strikes me as more impressive than Favre’s, not to take anything away from Brett’s.

    It is odd that 5 of the 11 longest non-kicker streaks in the NFL were for players who played for the Vikings. Tough like the people there I guess.

  27. I hear Brett wants to come back — he feels pretty strongly he can break his own record — starting as he now must from “1.”

  28. You people are all forgetting about who owns the real iron man streak…

    Jeff Feagles – look it up

    All kidding aside, big Packer fan and Farve hatters suck on this one, but I have to give props to old school streaks. Marshall, Page and some guy named tinkerbell (sorry couldn’t help it not a big Viking fan. Yes still respected Farve when he put on the purple, but didn’t help the hopeless organization. It’s a business, get over it.)

    Nevertheless, Medical help and training was no where near the same for the old school guys, should give those guys credit for 2 games played for every one of today’s players.

    As we say it in GB, the only streak that matters is Lombardi trophies.

    Go Pack Go

  29. joker65 says:
    Sep 7, 2011 6:04 PM
    Jim Marshall played 282 straight games as a defensive end. 20 years. Thats WAY more impressive than Farve’s streak. It isn’t mentioned enough.

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    Not even close. For starters Jim Marshall PLAYED, not started in 282 games. Impressive yes but not as impressive as being the starter. He started at 270 and no one was hitting him on his blind side. Favre started in all his games. Its more impressive whether you like him or not.

  30. ilovefoolsball says:
    Sep 7, 2011 5:59 PM
    The media makes such a big deal out of this “consecutive game starting streak”.

    Kinda like winning the award for perfect attendance throughout high school.

    It’s nice, but it doesn’t mean anything

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    actually it means everything. Best thing a player can provide for his team is availability

  31. Rivers deserves some attention, that mofo is as tough as them come, remember the playoff game with the knee injury, he reminds me of Favre in some ways, mainly, good luck getting him to sit down. If he breaks the record, I’ll have 6 years left until retirement, and good chance I’ll miss a start by then. If not Rivers, Stafford is my next choice 🙂 ( a little reverse mojo as he is my fantasy qb this year).

  32. With the way QBs keep getting protected more and more Favre’s record(s) will eventually get broken. As they say records are made to be broken. [Boy my mom was mad when I smashed her LPs as a kid and told her that.]

    Peyton Manning isn’t going to break Favre’s other records either. Sorry but he is slowing down and if you think he will be healthy the rest of his career you are only fooling yourself. These kind of injuries tend to be degenerative, remember this is his 2nd and now possibly 3rd operation on the same injury. It wasn’t just a few months ago Ed Reed said he wouldn’t even try to continue his career with such an injury. His career isn’t over yet but the light at the end of the tunnel is closer than people think. The Colts need to think of the future next year. If Manning is gone all year they just might be in position to do so.

  33. Why would you mention Sam Bradford as breaking the streak when Josh Freeman is over a year younger, has 9 more games started in a row, plus he’s never missed a start (other than preseason) for injury (while Bradford missed the majority of his last season in college).

  34. Manning isn’t breaking Favres career records for anything. This injury closed that door.

  35. “Foolish record – relies more on luck than anything else. If a lineman comes down on your knee, you’re going to miss games. It has nothing to do with skill – it’s pure luck. If two players have the same number of starts, but one misses one game halfway through, did one of them do something better than the other?

    In-a-row records are lame. Who cares if a guy hits safely in 56 baseball games? I’d rather have someone go without a hit in one game and have a higher on base percentage.”

    – Pardon me for sounding harsh, but the above comment has to be one of the most embarrassingly ignorant statements ever posted on this board. Really. Have you ever seen a pro football game? Have you ever witnessed the incredible punishment every quarterback takes during any one season? Did you ever see how a QB like Favre got blasted (blindsided) in the small of the back numerous times, or had his hand crash against the helmet of an onrushing lineman? Or had his legs twisted and mangled (like in that NFC Championship game)?

    As for baseball, almost every KNOWLEDGEABLE sportswriter or historian agrees that hitting a major league baseball is probably the single most difficult thing to do consistently in all of sports. You may not agree, but aside from the Iron man accomplishments, the sheer act of being a success who stands out among all their peers should impress even the most lead-brained lunkhead out there.

    Peyton Manning is tougher than most humans, and has endured his share of incredible hits, played when sick (ill), played through fractured bones, pinched nerves, concussions, and much more. Your comment is as insipid as could be.

  36. Say what you want about Brett Favre now, but it’s damn impressive to start every game at quarterback, especially the way Favre got beat up sometimes, for almost 19 seasons.

    They say records are meant to be broken, but there’s always an exception to everything, and Favre’s start streak is it. This record will never be broken.

  37. So, let me get this straight….a guy who runs up against an offensive lineman every single play, gets cut blocked and chipped frpm all different angles on every single play, has to shed a block and then make tackles and has to go all out every single play for 270 games for 20 years (remember 14 game seasons) is less impressive than a guy who gets hit maybe 1/4th of all the plays he is in, if that? That’s assinine. A longevity streak is all about toughness and overcoming injury. You ever wonder why no DL or OL are on this list idiots? Because they are tougher positions to play and injuries occur more there than playing QB.

    Try watching the line play instead of of just watching the qb drop back sometime fancy boys….you might learn something.

  38. canetic says:
    Sep 7, 2011 6:19 PM
    @joker 65:

    20 years as a QB is far more impressive than 20 years as a DE. A DE can take defensive plays off, the QB is out there every offensive down getting hit. A QB relies on every body part to remain healthy in order to function. A DE can have a broken finger, hand, dinged knee and still play.

    ================================
    And to you 4 other turds that think it’s easier.

    He was getting hit every play in the trenches, not to mention being chipped by rb’s and Tes.

    Also:
    Jim Marshall was known as the NFL’s “Iron Man.” He defined durability and commitment. He played a record setting 282 consecutive career games, 270 with the Minnesota Vikings. Counting his playoff appearances, his games played total is 302. Jim Marshall’s durability was amazing considering that, at 235 pounds, he usually faced players bigger than him.

    Jim Marshall further established his “Iron Man” persona playing through injuries and pain. Bud Grant, his coach, called him a “physiological impossibility. He just doesn’t rip, bust, or tear.” Twice he kept his consecutive games streak intact by walking out of hospitals where he was recuperating from pneumonia and ulcers. On another occasion, he played after accidentally shooting himself in the side while cleaning his shotgun.

    Yeah, but the guy wasn’t a tough sob and it doesn’t mean anything.

    It’s unfortunate that disliking a team or it’s fans leads to idiots(packer /saints fans) making dumb comments as the ones in this thread.

    You come to expect it out of them though.

  39. When Peyton Manning sits out Sunday, he’ll hand the longest active streak to his younger brother, Giants quarterback Eli Manning, who is set to start his 104th consecutive game on Sunday against the Redskins.
    __________

    Uh, no. Eli has the second longest consecutive streak for QBs. Ronde Barber is next on the list with 183 consecutive starts.

  40. kmart0319 , uh, Favre didn’t do that. He coulda done it the game his streak ended (because he played the following week) but he chose not too. Stupid post by you.

    joker and the other guy, you do realize def. ends sub in and out often and certainly don’t play every down, right. And while they get blocked, they rarely get hit, chased, hammered in the back in the middle of a throw, etc. etc. You guys need to try playing qb before running your mouth.

  41. Also keep in mind that most defensive ends are working against people their own size…..whereas the qb is generally one of the smaller, more fragile positions. To a 300 lb. de, going up against a 300 lb. guard is no big deal. To a 220 lb. qb, getting hit by 300+ lbs at full steam is quite a big deal. Favre’s streak is the MOST impressive in sports…period.

  42. Come on, nobody grows up thinking “I wanna break the record for consecutive games started.” You know why? Because it is all about luck. While Favre was a tough player, if he breaks arm or tears an ACL he’s out, period. Do you think Peyton Manning is missing these games because he’s not tough? It doesn’t matter if you’re the toughest guy in the world, if your arm, leg, or back doesn’t work, you don’t play. Of all of #4’s records, this one has by far the least meaning.

  43. duece5 says:

    Well, you’re name, foolsball, says it all! You’ve NEVER done either of two.

    And, I couldn’t disagree with you any more. The consecutive games streak is an impressive account of longevity and toughness. Love or hate Favre, he had both of those qualities.

    Sounds like you never made perfect attendance, OR were chosen to play on the playground. Sorry dude, life is tough sometimes!!
    ___________
    actually I did get perfect attendance, several years. I got a ribbon and a certificate.
    …and I was always chosen on the playground for foolsball. They called me lightning. I had a patented move where I would play like the ball was coming my way and the db covering me would look for the ball, then I go, and ZOOM I’m gone!!

    LIGHTNING!!!

  44. If the guidelines regarding concussions today had been in place early in Favre’s career we wouldn’t even be talking about this because he would have missed a game years and years ago.

  45. What is the big deal about PEYTON starting so many games in a row? How bout the games he STARTED and then QUIT? QUITTING the chase for an unbeaten season will forever define him.

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    Would like to add.. The Colts have never been the same since that moment. They have been in a tailspin ever since that poor poor choice.

  46. Who else is going to let a selfish, prima donna with a football God Complex play that long even after he is clearly hurting the team and is only in it for himself?

  47. The Colts need Favre and they know it… the only person who can throw a season ending interception and throw teammates under the bus better than Manning is Favre. The Colts will not fulfill their destiny without Favre at this point.

  48. Brett Favre: toughest SOB to ever play the quarterback position, maybe any position.

    say what you want about favre, that guy just flat out had more guts than anyone.

  49. Not only is Ronde Barber the new “Iron Man” now, but he has 26 Sacks, 40 Interceptions & 1165 tackles. Not too Shabby.

  50. A lot of experts have been predicting that Manning would break Favre’s records including the TD pass record. Now it doesn’t look like a sure thing any longer. They forgot about things like injury, the fact that the Colts are not as explosive as they once were when they had Marvin Harrison, etc. These were also the same people that predicted that Tiger Woods would break Jack Nicklaus’ record. The point is that predicting the future is very difficult.

  51. kmart0319 says:
    Sep 7, 2011 6:09 PM
    All Peyton has to do is be like Favre and come in for one play then leave. His streak will be intact then.

    So when did Favre ever do that? Don’t worry, I’ll answer for you. He never did.

  52. randolph32 says:
    Sep 7, 2011 6:21 PM
    You’re right Joker65, and a hell of a human being, something Brett can’t say….

    Yep, you’re right. He waffled on retirement. Probably the most evil guy in the world.

  53. Favre’s record in the violent world of the NFL is suspicious, to say the least. His career was very Roger Clemons-like, and it’s probably no coincidence his final retirement came just prior to the new CBA and its new drug-testing methods. It would be foolish to believe that only baseball had records tainted by performance enhancing drugs.

  54. Favre’s record should stand. It was built on being an Iron Man, not on showing up for a play or two to keep the streak going, then sitting down while his team threw games rather than keep alive an undefeated streak.

    @wannstache …

    You have absolutely nothing to back up your assertions about Favre and steroid use. The idea that he decided to retire at 41 following the worst season of his career and nagging injuries because (unknown to him) the new CBA might include HGH testing is just about the silliest thing ever said on PFT. Congrats. You get the boob prize.

  55. Peyton has already said that he wouldn’t come in for a snap just to extend his streak. He respects the game.

  56. All those games started and just Super Bowl wins between them, I guess the streaks don’t mean a thing when it comes to what matters.

  57. Wow all I can say is thank god I’m so sick of manning say what u want he’s a good qb bit he’s so overrated he’s good but not god and everyone worships him not unlike favre he showed what a flop he was but no one noticed til he played with the jets not slot of difference b4 just no one saw it for some reason. Manning is boring to watch! So slow no excitement not flashy not a god can’t wait for him to retire!!!!!

  58. Waiting for Manning to fall off on his pursuit is the only reason that Favre came back in the first place. It was all about him. The streak only means he was a self-centered egomaniac longer than anyone else in the NFL….and there are plenty of candidates.

  59. Couldn’t agree morre

    ”Why would you mention Sam Bradford as breaking the streak when Josh Freeman is over a year younger, has 9 more games started in a row, plus he’s never missed a start (other than preseason) for injury (while Bradford missed the majority of his last season in college).”

    Not to mention he is huge for a QB and is therefore less likely to break, indeed whenever he gets sacks they are always grabs and takedowns rather than hits since he is bigger than most LBs.

  60. I think you’re splitting hairs when you want to say which streak is more impressive (Favre’s or Marshall’s). They both were as tough as nails. A former player once described playing on the line as being in a car accident…on every single play.

    For those who don’t think the streak is a big deal – a great NFL coach once said the most important thing for a player is durability and availability. Without those two nothing else is possible.

    Finally, for the knuckleheads who continue to point out Favre’s INT record – please get a clue. His percentage of interceptions (meaning the number he throws per pass attempts) is right in line with his contemporaries who are in the Hall Of Fame. He has more overall because he has also thrown more pass attempts overall.

    Never been a big fan of Peyton, although some of his commercials have been sort of funny, but I sure hate to see something like this happen to the guy.

  61. Wisconsin77 says:
    Sep 8, 2011 6:49 AM

    Stellarperformance, Then why did he retire the first time? Opps, kind of blows your logic right out of the water .
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    Because he DIDN’T retire the first time, did he? Or the second time. Why not….because he realized Peyton could still catch him. It confirms my contention. When the streak ended last year in Minnesota, it was no longer important to him to continue, even though “his arm remains as strong as ever.” Huh….considering the fact that he had his best year ever just one season removed, it would seem to me he’d want to bring his strong arm back for the good of the team. But that wouldn’t be possible when it’s all about him and not the team, would it.

  62. @Deb…

    I still believe there may be more to Favre’s streak than we know. The truth has a way of finding it’s way to the surface, even if it takes years. After all, he was once heralded as a wonderful and loyal husband. We now know that’s not true. We all thought Roger Clemons was an ageless wonder as well, and he wasn’t even in a contact sport. Get your head out of the clouds. Things are often not what they seem.

  63. @wannstache …

    When was he heralded as a wonderful and loyal husband? His wife wrote in her autobiography that she knew he was cheating on her even before they married. Anyone who thought Brett Favre was a homebody wasn’t payng attention.

    Honey, I’m a grown woman who has seen a lot in life. My head isn’t in the clouds and I’m under no illusions that football players are saints. But I don’t pull accusations out of thin air–as you’re doing–just because I don’t like a guy.

  64. @Deb…

    I’m not accusing, as I have no proof. But I am questioning what is a highly improbable streak by a non-kicker in a very violent sport. I am a grown man who has actually played football, so I know some things too. Honey.

  65. @wannstache …

    Don’t talk to me like I’m a delusional child, and I won’t talk to you like you’re one. I haven’t played football, but after 28 surgeries, I’m pretty knowledgeable about the recovery powers of the human body.

  66. @deb…

    Again, I’m just saying the whole scenario is suspicious, to say the least. I’m sorry for whatever medical issues you’ve had, but you know well how hard it is to get through life without major injury, much less a football life. The fact that you read his wife’s book tells me you are probably a Favre fan, so will look at it differently than a fan of another team. Still, I thought Roger Clemons career was amazing and yet I got fooled. Fool me twice, shame on me. We’ll see if anything comes out down the road on Farve. All things aside, I hope you are well. Enjoyed the debate.

  67. @wannstache …

    Oh, please don’t feel bad for me. I’m blessed and to look at me, you’d never think I’d ever been ill. Actually, I’m a Steelers diehard, but have always liked the Iron Man–and that’s why. Admire those people who keep getting up and fighting through it. That’s not an endorsement of his personal character, but I loved what he brought to the game and don’t think we’ll ever see that like again. Steroids are bad news–and Favre doesn’t have the bulk to suggest he was a regular user. I don’t know much about HGH, but if all it does is speed healing, I wouldn’t have an issue with that and think the NFL needs to re-examine its views. But there may be more to HGH than I know.

    Thanks for the well wishes. I’ve enjoyed the debate, too.

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