Jerry Angelo taking increased heat in Chicago

AP

Back-t0-back beatdowns of the Bears are bound to cause a lot of finger pointing in Chicago.

The fans are up in arms about Mike Martz’s no-dimensional offense. Media folks are pointing the finger higher up.

Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times writes that Jay Cutler’s career is being “held hostage” by G.M. Jerry Angelo.  The team’s lack of talent at receiver and offensive line are Hayes’ biggest complaints.

“Angelo has hoped Cutler could elevate mediocre offensive talent while he tries to reload a defense undermined by years of poor drafts,” Hayes writes.  Later on: “Cutler isn’t failing the Bears. The Bears are failing Cutler.”

ESPN’s Michael Wilbon also targeted Angelo, saying his performance this year “stinks.”  The free agent crop has been a bust and Angelo’s promises about the improved offensive line ring hollow.

We will hold off on hot seat talk in Chicago (for the coach and G.M.) until the Bears start losing games we expect them to win. That hasn’t happened yet.

It could this Sunday against the Panthers.

73 responses to “Jerry Angelo taking increased heat in Chicago

  1. I think he deserves the heat.

    I really hope I’m not the only person that thinks its silly that, one of thier best WRs over the past few seasons was a DB in college.

  2. as he should! Martz is not a good match for Cutler, and Cutler is just not buying into, you can see the quit in his eyes after every 3 and out…

  3. It kind of seems like the Bears have needed help at WR nearly as long as I’ve been watching football… and I’m 27. Oh, well, at least Roy Williams is working out lol.

  4. I think cutler is the modern day Jeff George, All the talent in the world, and he has that dis interested look all the time

    Briggs is still a good Player, But Urlacher although he made a nice Pic got gashed on those inside runs. Clifton Dominated Julius Peppers all day, 2 tackles, and 1 sack for a loss of 2 yards. When they moved Peppers over to the other side he had no luck against a second year player playing in his first game.

    Everyone said the Bears D had the Packers number?

    300 yds Passing, 100 yds rushing, 24 first downs, dominated time of possesion and most of all 27 points.

    Face it Bears, the D is getting older and slower as we speak…………………………

  5. Whats Angelo’s biggest problem?

    Being in the same division as dynasty-in-the-making Green Bay Packers

  6. packattack1967 says:
    Sep 27, 2011 3:16 PM
    I do agree with one point, Cutler takes too much heat. If he had a line and some weapons they would light it up.
    ______________

    He does take a lot of heat, but when I do give him heat its from watching him mope around.

    He is a world class athlete and the head scratching after INTs, no enthusiasm. He gets most of the heat from me for that.

  7. As a Bears fan, as was so happy when I read this headline. I must say, for how awful the roster is on paper, the Bears somehow perform pretty well.

  8. Didn’t the Bears fire Ron Rivera after he led that Defense to the Superbowl? Then they trade their best player to Carolina for a draft pick?

    Rivera and Olsen will want this game big time. I think the Panthers come away with this one on Sunday.

  9. Cutler has been a bear for what, 4 seasons, and hasn’t sniffed the pro bowl since. Obviously, mike shanahan was on to something with cutler in the west coast offense, with the boots and play action, no? So why in the world wouldn’t you bring in an OC that runs the wc offense. Cutler already knows the system so dont give me that “3 different coordinators in 4 years” crap.

  10. When I first read this I was happy thinking someone had actually lit Jerry Angelo on fire. Unfortunetly that is not the case. Yet.

  11. Ugh. Two weeks ago the Bears were “the team nobody was talking about” coming off a big win against last years 1st seed in the NFC. Now the GM is horrible and the team is in disaray. Sometimes the overreactions of NFL fans and media gets seriously old.

    The Bears are pretty good. Whats wrong with saying that?

  12. Cutler to INDY! Please! Chi is tired of Cutler and Cutler is tired of Chi… Put him on a team where he has a chance and he will light it up!

  13. This has been recurring conversation for every Bears fan paying attention for the past 5 years. Nothing new under the Angelo dictatorship. Horrible drafting, failed free agency experiments, stubborn dogmatic philosophies, nepotism and cronyism, complete reluctance to reward proven veterans- this is the hallmark of the Bear front office. The fact that they haven’t gone 4-12 every season has been a blessing and a curse. A curse because the McCaskey family keeps prolonging the regime every 3-4 years when there is a successful season.
    It’s to the point where I see players like Kreutz, Olsen, D.Manning on other teams and I feel happy that they are finally being treated properly.

  14. mypackersownyourteam says:
    Sep 27, 2011 3:29 PM
    Whats Angelo’s biggest problem?

    Being in the same division as dynasty-in-the-making Green Bay Packers

    —————————
    Please don’t start with the embarassing Packer-homer attitude on here…we already have the annoying, obnoxious, delusional PFT troll with steeler “fan” 7thlombardiontheway…

    I’m a diehard Packers fan, so please don’t start this crap that will bring embarassment to general Packer fans on this board. If you’re going to post, please at least make it intelligent and contribute to the actual topic.

    Anyways on topic, Cutler needs guys who not only can stretch the field but know how to run multiple routes, block, and most importantly CATCH the ball. Knox and Hester have incredible speed, but aren’t the complete package that Martz had for Kurt Warner in St. Louis with having Holt and Isaac Bruce.

    Trading Greg Olson, though he wasn’t the best fit for the Martz offense, resulted in Culter losing his most trusted receiver.

  15. I wish they had like an extra 20 mil or so during the offseason to upgrade o-line and receivers. Oh well, Angelo said nobody did more than the Bears to upgrade the line, so it must be true.

    Fire Jerry and Martz. I’m neutral on Lovie.

  16. The Bears won their division last year, but did so on the backs of the defense and with an easy schedule.

    Their one playoff victory was against the Seahawks, arguably the worst team to make the playoffs ever.

    Their GM refuses to do anything but small patches to fix their O line situation. He acts like the problem will resolve itself.

    Their coach refuses to take control of the team, even though he knows the play calling needs to change.

    Their Offensive Coordinator continues to call plays the way it worked in that lethal pass offense in StL, instead of opening his eyes and realizing he has no real receivers and has a monster RB.

    Their francise QB has tons of talent but gets frustrated easily. A few more seasons of getting hit every other play and he will give up on the team for good.

    So yes, it is absolutely time to panic!

    If I was a Bears fan, I wouldn’t care that my defense keeps me in games, they will never win the big one with an offense that can’t lead you to victory and at least contribute.

    They will never get anywhere unless things change in Chicago. So as a Packer fan, I am a HUGE fan of Smith and Angelo.

  17. Tom Landry had no enthusiasm. He just stood there. Maybe I’ll give him some posthumous heat, since it’s the criteria on how to judge athletes. Maybe lump Mariano Rivera in there too.

    Angelo has come out in the Chicago media and said he has done as much as anyone else to improve his offensive line. That’s as arrogant as everything that comes out of Lovie Smith’s mouth. They treat the fans like idiots.

  18. I would love it if Angelo’s incompetence got Lovie fired too. Angelo’s a dunce, but Lovie is one of the more underrated coaches in the league. The fact that he’s taken those Bears teams as far as he has despite the incompetence of Angelo’s team building goes to show that the guy is a solid coach.

    As a Packer fan, I was bummed when the Vikings fired Childress. He was a dolt. But I’d be thrilled if the Bears canned Lovie — the man is a good coach and his teams give the Packers fits year-in and year-out.

  19. Panthers will win this game. Ron Rivera is hyping this game up to his players. Jay Cutler will have a long day against this panthers defense. They were looking great last week against the jags before the monsoon happened. Only reason jags had 10 points was because we jumped offside on a punt which lead to a FG, and the last plays before halftime were a fluke plays since you couldn’t even see five feet in front of you. Panthers 28 bears 17

  20. 2 more weeks….detroit is waiting, salivating at the opportunity to destroy cutler and this team that stole 2 wins from them last year.

    Best of luck on MNF Cutler – you’re going to need it with that “offensive line”

  21. danl311 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:34 PM

    Cutler to INDY! Please! Chi is tired of Cutler and Cutler is tired of Chi… Put him on a team where he has a chance and he will light it up!

    ————————————–

    why would the “luck-iest” team in football want to trade for Cutler?

  22. I am super happy the Bears keep lovie and mike. They will turn it around as soon as they bench jay. He has no heart, we all saw that in the championship game last year. Good thing Atlanta is starting so poor or we would be 0-3.

  23. As a Bear fan for the past 48 years I can say that Neil Hayes correctly summed up the situation. The Bears can turn anyone into a failure at QB. They could have done it with Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers even Peyton Manning. Tom Brady would have been a nobody if he would up in Chicago.

  24. Jerry Angelo has been a pathetic. His drafts are terrible. This guy hasn’t had a clue as a talent evaluator. I’ve been saying it for years. He is to Chicago, what Matt Millen was to Detroit. I just hope it doesn’t take a 2 and 14 record for George Mckaskey to realize it…

  25. “I think cutler is the modern day Jeff George, All the talent in the world, and he has that dis interested look all the time”

    ———————–

    That is dead on accurate.

  26. You Packer fans kill me. If Rodgers was a Bear last year do you think he still wins a Super Bowl ? Really ? Really? Bears have an undrafted rookie with no speed playing the slot, a 7th round pick at Left Tackle and Roy Williams as their # 1. Any QB who has to play with that garbage would struggle.

  27. I love these threads! Packer fans have such an inferiority complex. If you want to know the intimate details of what’s happening at Halas Hall, ask a Packer fan. Why can’t you rubes worry about your team – or at least have a relevant point?

    When Ted Phillips was put in charge and signed Angelo, I had some hope. At least the incompetent Michael was out of the way. Things haven’t improved all that much, unfortunately.

    Being at the top of the NFC is almost an insult. This conference is an embarrasment to the sport, and having the Bears be in the hunt for the Halas trophy has made me uncomfortable, when it’s come up in recent years. I could go on about the league as a whole, but I’ll spare you.

    Angelo hasn’t done much of anything to make the team better. Rather, the competition around him has gotten worse. He’s made a few good defensive draft picks, but his overall record is a disgrace. Acquiring Cutler and providing no O-line or receivers for him is practically thumbing his nose at the fans.

    I find myself hoping for the bottom to fall out, just so someone in the front office will consider making a change. The Bears will continue to be mediocre at best until they do.

  28. The problem isn’t Cutler or Martz.

    The problem isn’t necessarily Jerry Angelo (kinda)

    The problem is the McCaskey ownership. They continue to be notoriously cheap and short-sighted.

    There is no way Angelo can be on the hot seat, because that means the McCaskey’s would have to fire him, and pay out his contract. Not gonna happen.

    They like cheap coaches, and cheaper players. Only time the organization has spent money is on Peppers and Cutler.

  29. Mike Martz is an amazing OC, as long as you have in their primes Orlando Pace and Adam Timmerman on your O-Line, Marshall Faulk as your all purpose back, Issac Bruce and Tory Holt as your WRs, and Kurt Warner as your QB.

  30. pilot2011 – You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. The year they went to the Superbowl, first 4 or 5 games the D was lights out. Then injuires on the D line started and the D slipped. Then Injuries in the secondary occured, the D slipped. The Bears Statistically weren’t even a top 15 defense when the season ended, the Colts were rated higher. Rivera is a great coach when his best players are healthy. He couldn’t coach up other players.

  31. As bad as Angelo is – Martz is worse and for the life of me I can’t figure out why Smith doesn’t use that headset to tell Martz to call a run play once in a while.

    It must go to someone. If the games in the crapper – tell Martz to shut his hole, I’m calling the plays.

    THAT’S what a leader would do if he sees someone burning down the house.

  32. The Bears will never win it all until they offer Ted Thompson 1 billion dollars a year to come to Halas Hall as G.M.

    Angelo is a stiff.

  33. I’m 44 years old and been a die-hard Bears fan since the ’77-78 season and yeah, Angelo is an arrogant blowhard who has proven he is no great football personnel mind. I would be happy to bid him adieu. Lovie Smith has shown very little football acumen and has made boneheafed blunders that have me questioning his football IQ as well. The players like him but I’m not a fan. He could go too.
    But Chicago is NOT getting tired of Cutler. We know he’s in a bad spot with an inept O-line and average at best receivers and the fans I know all want to give him the tools he needs to win. We stand by Cutler and are done with Angelo and Lovie.

  34. Angelo should be taking increased heat.

    What were the three major problems at the end of last season? What, coincidentally, are the three major problems so far this season:

    1) bad offensive line. He gets rid of the best player on the line, gets a first round rookie which is great, and a center that the Seahawks didn’t want, which isn’t so great. He ignored all the All-Pro talent out there because they might have cost money.

    2) Legit #1 receiver. This is the only one he gets a pass on. The Martz offense is complicated to learn, and since Martz wasn’t going anywhere (a shame) Roy Williams really was the best option because of his familiarity with the offense. He gets a pass but he’s not excused, because Johnny Knox and Devin Hester have clearly not been starting material since 2009 and there have been no extra moves made to fix that.

    3) DB depth. On Sunday the Bears had two safeties suit up because everyone else was injured. They let Danieal Manning, the 5th ranked safety last season, go because they didn’t want to pay him and believed Major “wiff” Wright was the future at the position. Angelo drafts a safety every draft and the only two that have worked out he let walk or traded (though he did get Chris Harris back).

    The Bears have been two competent offenses away from two Super Bowl appearances and probably victories in the last 5 years.

  35. In my opinion this article is right on the money…
    Being a life long Bears fan I have seen a lot with this team. Since Angelo has been in control our drafts (all of them) have been miss after miss. For anyone with common sense..please explain how I am to understand how Angelo gets Cutler and gives him no O line to block and no recievers to throw to? On the D side..how do you spend that money for Peppers and get no secondary help? Angelo is a bust, and the cover two D scheme is a complete bust and has been for years. Why does any head coach worth his salt need former head coaches all around him to make decisions for him??? Please George McCaskey, I hope you clean house and soon. Make Angelo your first firing along with Phillips and Ruskell….

  36. Who were all these stud WRs in free agency available? And Olinemen?

    They bid more money for Willie Colon, and he elected to stay with Pittsburgh – and is now out for the season.

    The Bears are now paying for the mistakes in the draft from the past several years. They drafted firs round OT Chris Williams, who’s been a bust imho – moved to OG. And now first rounder Gabe Carimi is out with the same knee injury from college.

    Time will tell… But I don’t feel Martz structures his offense around the talent, it’s always the other way around.

  37. “Angelo has hoped Cutler could elevate mediocre offensive talent while he tries to reload a defense undermined by years of poor drafts,” Hayes writes. Later on: ”Cutler isn’t failing the Bears. The Bears are failing Cutler.”

    That last quote sounds a little to me like a writer not wanting to lose his ability to get interviews from Cutler.

  38. Panthers and Cam will rock the Bears this Sunday. Take a look at an athletic QB with leadership skills! Cam has sack and his team plays hard for him unlike J Cut.

    Go Panthers

  39. It starts @ the top. The McCaskey family wants the cash. $30 mil under the cap last year, $19 mil under cap this year. Soldier field is sold out. The McCaskeys cannot make any more money by putting a good team on the field.

    Lovie got a raise for getting under paid, lackluster talent to overperform.

    The McCaskeys do not own anything else. The Bears are the McCaskeys sole income. When George Halas’ daughter dies, Virginia McCaskey, the grand kids and the great grand kids and great great grand kids will cash out and sell.

    Angelo is just doing the McCaskey’s bidding.

  40. I personally think the staff over in Chicago is doing a great job. I love it. I hope they keep the GM and Head coach positions in place. I am a huge fan. Also, I think going and getting all of the NFC’s ex head coaches, like Tice, Marinelli and lets not forget Martz although different division. I mean he made Kurt Warner and the greatest show on earth. They had no talent until he showed up. I hope they extend the contracts all of these guys for years to come. Urlacher was right when he said they are better than us. Were so lucky.

    From my lips to Vince’s ears.

  41. “I love these threads! Packer fans have such an inferiority complex. If you want to know the intimate details of what’s happening at Halas Hall, ask a Packer fan. Why can’t you rubes worry about your team – or at least have a relevant point?”

    —————————————————–

    Says the Bears fan who decided to make the first sentence of his post all about the Green Bay Packers.

    Why would Packers fans have an inferiority complex? (Other than the half of Packers Nation who sold out their allegiance to the team for Brett Lorenzo Favre in 2008)

    I could care less whats happening in Halas Hall. And “we can’t worry about our own team” because theres really nothing to worry about. Everything is peaches. LOL!

  42. I’m no Angelo fan, certainly not a McCasky fan, and admittedly a Viking fan, but come on, they’ve played the Falcons, Saints and Packers, not the little sisters of the poor. I wouldn’t start freaking out quite yet.

  43. Is it possible that Angelo is under orders to try to do this on the cheap, while there is no salary floor?

  44. Why the hell would packer fans have an inferiority complex? I could a damn what is happening in Hallas Hall.

    Bears fans seem to forget,

    The Superbowl is call the Lombardi Trophy
    The Conference trophy is called George Halas trophy.

    We have 4 superbowls and you have 1. We have won two since your last win.

    We have had two QB’s in the last twenty years and you have had well over 20.

    There is a pattern here.

    I respect the rivalry, my next door neighbors are from Chicago and diehard bear fans so I respect most of your fans but start talking crap and it’s time for a reality check.

  45. “The problem is the McCaskey ownership. They continue to be notoriously cheap and short-sighted.”

    You can call them a lot of things, but they’re not cheap. They bankrolled Angelo’s free-agency binge last year.

    And LOL @ Lion fans. Bears didn’t steal that second game.

  46. “Cam has sack and his team plays hard for him unlike J Cut. ”

    Ah, the whole “Jay Cutler is a wussy quitter.”

    Never stops being old.
    Never stops being incorrect.

    Thanks, Fox Sports.

  47. I have zero sympathy for Cutler. He whined his way out of Denver and is getting the beat down he richly deserves.

  48. I’m a die hard Bears fan and I have supported Angelo up until now. I think Lovie is a decent coach, he has the players respect and I think they want to play hard for him but now we need a coach who isn’t a good ‘ol boy . I believe we need a a coach that defines tough Bear football. Lovie is a good guy but I don’t think he is really smart enough to take us over the hump. And Martz is just a flat out moron not helping Cutler out with his pass protections and play calling and his inability to make adjustments fast enough. The lack of receivers was very evident against the packers.
    Here is what I suggest. Moving Hester to mainly kick offs and punt returns. Maybe use him occasionally as a slot receiver. Draft or sign a free agent receiver who is big and mean. Put Cutler in shotgun more with some pass protections especially on 3rd and 15 I mean any one can figure that out. And design some plays that fit into Cutlers strengths like some s roll outs like Aaron Rodgers was doing.

  49. A good coach adjusts his playcalling and schemes to the players’ abilities on the roster. Martz needs to realize that he doesn’t have Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce, and Marshall Faulk playing for him anymore. Trading away Greg Olson was a huge mistake and the WRs they’ve brought in stink. Hester is just not a starting WR in this league. Cutler may have great physical ability but his leadership ability doesn’t scream confidence.

  50. “Why the hell would packer fans have an inferiority complex? I could a damn what is happening in Hallas Hall.”
    ——————-

    I don’t know why, but every packer fan I meet knows everything about the Bears. I’ve been a Bears fan since 1970 and I don’t know (or care, frankly) about all these minute details they relate to me. Meanwhile, they have little to say about the Packers front office, inner workings, etc. The only conclusion to be drawn from this is that Packers fans spend a lot of time worried about the Bears. Sounds like an inferiority complex to me. YMMV.

    And before you start beating your chest about Superbowls and everything, this was going on when the Packers were bad, too.

    So, rebut all you want – and I’m sure that there will be more mentions of all the winning the Pack has done and the Bears have not – the pattern has been the same for decades.

  51. Jerry is dumb.

    How many draft picks does this guy throw away for either 30 year old players or on experiments like Dan “Lafelour”?

    You’ve got an old defense, no depth, no wrs, no oline.

    Load up on draft picks and get some competition for starting spots.

    It’s not like the scouts are bad. (matt forte?)

  52. “Why the hell would packer fans have an inferiority complex? I could a damn what is happening in Hallas Hall.”
    ——————-

    I don’t know why, but every packer fan I meet knows everything about the Bears. I’ve been a Bears fan since 1970 and I don’t know (or care, frankly) about all these minute details they relate to me. Meanwhile, they have little to say about the Packers front office, inner workings, etc. The only conclusion to be drawn from this is that Packers fans spend a lot of time worried about the Bears. Sounds like an inferiority complex to me. YMMV.

    And before you start beating your chest about Superbowls and everything, this was going on when the Packers were bad, too.

    So, rebut all you want – and I’m sure that there will be more mentions of all the winning the Pack has done and the Bears have not – the pattern has been the same for decades. You’re posting in a thread about the Bears and Jay Cutler, waving your peepee around about how much better the Packers are, proving my point.

  53. Being a Rams fan- I can tell you lovie smith is one of the most overrated defensive minds in the business. The Bears made the same mistake the Rams did with lovie- they gave him too much say in the defensive personnel selected in the draft. Look at the defensive players selected with lovie was DC in St. Louis- all busts. He even tried to rethread Archuleta and Kennedy and they failed him in Chicago too. Just remember, he got rid of London Fletcher because he wasn’t a “lovie-type player” and replaced him with Jamie Duncan. All the guy knows how to do is play the Cover 2- if he has to make an adjustment, he is finished. How did the Bears far why he was calling the defense anyway?

  54. I’ll admit that I’m not a huge Cutler fan, based on his exit from Denver and his sideline demeanor during games as a Chicago Bear (I’ve called him “Cry-Baby Cutler” on multiple occasions). At this point, I just feel sorry for him.

    After giving up so many draft picks to obtain Cutler, common sense would dictate the Bears give him the tools needed to be successful…an offensive line to protect him; a good group of receivers (including a true #1 WR); some semblance of a running game; and an offensive coordinator who would play to Cutler’s strengths.

    Instead, the offensive line is a joke and Cutler is a high priced tackling dummy. The only bigger joke is Roy Williams as a #1 WR. Adding insult to injury, they got rid of a talented young tight end who was Cutler’s best/ most reliable target in the passing game. They kept RB Matt Forte, but don’t use him nearly enough (of course, it would be nice if the O-line could run block!). Mad-Man Martz is trying to fit a round peg (Cutler) into a square hole (Martz’s scheme). And another thing, why won’t head coach Lovie Smith grow a set and order Martz to call more runs??

    What a mess!!

  55. I agree…re-sign Angelo, now, while the price is low.

    Let’s let him allow his full, 25 year plan to come to fruition.

  56. Shanahan is making a decent qb out of sexy rexy, and cutler was good under shanahan, what is that says about the front office of the bears

  57. I’ve said it many times before and here it goes again because it is STILL TRUE – As long as the McCaskey family owns the Bears they will be mediocre.

    They sell out every game, they can’t hear the boos because they’re in a luxury suite, the team is a cash cow and they know they’ll make tons of money no matter what happens – so why spend any more than they have to?

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