Matthew Stafford takes a shot at Cris Carter

AP

Last month, former NFL receiver and current ESPN analyst Cris Carter questioned Detroit’s Calvin Johnson, saying he’s not a top-five receiver. Carter later backtracked, and Johnson brushed it off, but Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford hasn’t forgotten.

On Twitter today, Stafford noted that Johnson has two touchdowns in all three of the Lions’ games this season, and he asked whether a fourth two-touchdown game against the Cowboys on Sunday might be enough to impress Carter.

Stafford’s tweet: “Does anyone think 8 tds in 4 weeks will change chris carters mind about an ‘elite’ receiver? #megatron.”

Carter himself owns the all-time NFL record for consecutive two-touchdown games, with four in a row in 1995. If Johnson ties that record on Sunday, one would think Carter would reconsider his opinion that Johnson is only great in video games, not real football.

Or maybe Johnson will need to break Carter’s record, with two more two-touchdown games.

136 responses to “Matthew Stafford takes a shot at Cris Carter

  1. Cris Carter – All he does is catch touchdown passes… and also criticize current players.

  2. “Does anyone think 8 tds in 4 weeks will change chris carters mind about an “elite” receiver? #megatron.”

    Chris Carter doesn’t have a mind. He is a talking pile of poo.

  3. gimme Key and Rodney all day long for former players having some insight, sense and impartialty

    Carter and Jackson are the living embodiment of the phrase ” no one listens to you anymore”.

  4. With guys like Plaxico Burress, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Cook, and Tank Johnson all having issues with guns in the past, the media should really re-think the way they use the phrase, “..takes a shot at..”

  5. The real ironic part is Stafford’s head is getting bigger than most doorways on his 3 wins, 2 of which came against teams with 0-3 records (one they needed OT to beat).

    Detroit is also behind the Buffalo Bills in the standings & the scoreboard total, so I’d sit back & call out when you beat some real teams.

  6. Carter is an idiot. I cant stand watching him on ESPN and his analysis is usually way off. On this one he whiffed so hard he even missed the air. CJ is easily an elite recieve and he deserves his fair share of credit for Detroits turnaround.

  7. I hope he has another 2 touchdown day to tie the record and then breaks it with a 3 td performance in week 5.

    He’s on most of my fantasy teams, afterall.

  8. Megatron is the best receiver in the NFL so far this season, and could be for seasons to come. He is the most physically gifted WR in the game and now with a legit QB throwing to him he should be unstoppable. Especially if teams continue to single cover him, which is just bizarre.

  9. I don’t even need to read this articl to give it a HUGE thumbs up! Woooo.

    Matty Stafford just became one of my favorite NFL players.

    I might make a twitter account just to follow him…. I don’t even know if he tweets or whatever.

    This is awesome. I wish more athletes would call Cris Carter out for not knowing what he’s talking about yet always running his stupid mouth!

    I hate you Crist Carter!
    #Staffordspeakstruth

  10. Carter wouldn’t be a top 20 receiver in todays NFL. I’d like to see Carter come out from behind his desk and say that to megatrons face.

  11. Carter was a good WR but I have to question his analytical skills as a broadcaster if he does not think Megatron is a BEAST. Not a Lions fan, but who could not recognize the talent? Really?!

  12. Cris carter had some amazing sideline catches..which we havn’t seen from Johnson YET!, but johnson has such strong hands that he is never giong to drop a ball. Calvin Johsnon, #1 reciever in the NFL.

  13. I think Chris carter just wants people to notice him since he not in the spot light anymore. Even if it means saying stupid stuff.

  14. Megatron is a stud, but at the same time Stafford should keep his mouth shut until he makes it through more than 2 games a year. He is made of glass.

  15. Carter was always the bridesmaid, never the bride so it makes since he would take his shots at Megatron. Carter was a very good receiver, but he always took a back seat to the likes of Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, Tim Brown, and emerging stars in Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. His first 5 years were also horrendous, so I can see why he feels uneasy about one of the top 3 receivers in the game. Those top 3 are pretty much interchangeable too.

  16. The fact is, Chris Carter was not a winner. He had 4 playoff wins in 16 years – his production was always about individual accomplishments – he was not a team player.

    In comparison, Hines Ward has played in 3 times as many payoff wins, in 3 fewer seasons.

  17. Ahh Cris will backtrack soon what can he do but take it back THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS is putting it to the world by having a good year.(16-0) I didn’t say that.

  18. Carter was on Mike and Mike this morning and reconfirmed he didn’t believe Megatron was elite…yet. His top 4 were RWhite, RWayne, AJohnson, & GJennings. He felt consistent production over several years qualifies you for elite and Megatron hasn’t gotten there yet. I could easily argue he hasn’t had an elite QB throwing to him like the others until now. But, really almost anybody else who knows anything about football knows Megatron is probably the best wr in the NFL so, who really cares what a washed up WR thinks

  19. RULE CHANGES REALLY BENEFITING WR’S/TE’S AND QB’S.
    Don’t get me wrong I love Megatron and I do think he is elite but he is no Cris Carter. Cris Carter is statistically the 2nd greatest WR of all time, he had the greatest hands pf all time and he was the greatest sideline/back of endzone make the catch and keep the toes in WR ever.

    Megatron top 3 in the NFL no doubt, Carter top 2 All time. He is wrong about Megatron though.

  20. Here’s his list in order:

    Andre Johnson
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Greg Jennings
    Reggie Wayne
    Roddy White
    DeSean Jackson
    Santonio Holmes
    Anquan Boldin
    Mile Austin
    Calvin Johnson
    _____

    No offense to any of the recievers above Calvin, but c’mon! Chris I used to respect you.

  21. I honestly wish ESPN would stick to just having analysts like Bill Parcells, and drop the “wish I was still in the spotlight” former diva, yet still diva wide receivers in Carter and Johnson….

    I can’t take any of them seriously… Same goes for Tedy Bruschi…..

    All of their bias and ego prevents them from giving unbiased opinions!

  22. skoobyfl says:
    Sep 27, 2011 5:59 PM
    The real ironic part is Stafford’s head is getting bigger than most doorways on his 3 wins, 2 of which came against teams with 0-3 records (one they needed OT to beat).

    Detroit is also behind the Buffalo Bills in the standings & the scoreboard total, so I’d sit back & call out when you beat some real teams.

    ****************************************
    I disagreeLook at the facts.. The teams the Lions beat..

    Bucs. 2-1
    Chiefs 0-3 (record of opponents 8-1)
    Vikings 0-3( record of opponents 7-3)
    The teams they are beating aren’t necessarily bad, they just have hard schedules.

  23. Not to defend Chris Carter but catching 2 tds in 4 straight back in 1995 when actual hitting was allowed is much different than doing it now when players should be wearing skirts.

    As for Stafford twittering….relax dude. You’ve done absolutely nothing but win 3 games. Beat the Pack, then Tweet.

  24. Carter is a jealous, bitter maniac. Great young wideouts are extremely threatening to him, even though this clown hung up his cleats years ago.

  25. ruggerlad says: Sep 27, 2011 6:13 PM

    RULE CHANGES REALLY BENEFITING WR’S/TE’S AND QB’S.
    Don’t get me wrong I love Megatron and I do think he is elite but he is no Cris Carter. Cris Carter is statistically the 2nd greatest WR of all time, he had the greatest hands pf all time and he was the greatest sideline/back of endzone make the catch and keep the toes in WR ever.

    Megatron top 3 in the NFL no doubt, Carter top 2 All time. He is wrong about Megatron though.

    ___________________________________________

    Carter has been surpassed by Harrison, Owens, and Moss in many of the receiving categories. put the kool-aid down

  26. egls7 says:
    Sep 27, 2011 6:13 PM
    I would foam in the mouth if johnson did that. He’s my fantasy receiver
    ———–
    the words “foam in mouth” and “fantasy” should not be used in the same sentence unless you’re one of Charlie’s goddesses. Then again, what else can one expect from a she-gals fan.

  27. Taking nothing away from his talents, I would merely point out Calvin Johnson has never had had 80 receptions in any season – and has exceeded 70 only twice. Dozens of WR’s and TE’s do so every year.

  28. @ skoobyfl

    Alright be a big boy and try and learn your facts. Try not to cry to hard as someone lays some real facts on you. Yes the Bills have scored alot of points but because they had to fight back and barely win on last second scores. Lets look at defence who has the better redzone defence between the Bills and Lions? The Lions. Who has less points aginst? The Lions. Who has a better turnover differential? The Lions. Oh and lets not forget this little fact. Who holds the NFL’s longest active winning streak? Lets see, at 7-0 (11-0 including preseason) is the , yup you guessed it, The Lions.

    So why the Bills have got to 3-0, by the grace of the football gods, the Lions are the team to beat (between the two). They bot have great offences, but if the Bills meet the Detroit Defence, they will be exposed for the frauds they are.

  29. Carter deserves more thn one shot. How Bommer hasn’t run him off the MNF set is beyond me.

  30. Carter’s entitled to his opinions. And ought to be in the HOF. It’s not right to disrespect a guy’s accomplishments because you disagree with his opinion. I do think he’s wrong about Megatron, however.

  31. ajknox88 says:Sep 27, 2011 6:15 PM

    No offense to any of the recievers above Calvin, but c’mon! Chris I used to respect you.

    ____

    You “respect” Chris? Well, apparently not enough to get his first name spelled correctly….

  32. Calvin Johnson says and does all the right things. He has as much athletic ability as Randy Moss but Johnson’s not an ignorant a-hole. If Stafford stays relatively healthy for the next 10 years, Johnson will be known as one of the greats. As a Packer fan, i’m suprised that Greg Jennings is being mentioned as a better receiver. Johnson is simply a game changer through and through. I don’t know if Jennings could put up the same numbers if he had some of the qb’s that Johnson has had to play with.

  33. The funny thing is Carter didn’t develop into an elite receiver til his 7th year. And while I’m sure he watches alot more film than I do, I’m just not sure what he’s watching. Just because Calvin was on a bad team (historically) shouldn’t hurt his grade as a player.

  34. I would really really love to see Calvin Johnson now go out and break the big mouths record. Chris Carter is constant shooting his big mouth off and his comments are almost always dripping with his own personal bias.

    Calvin…..GO GET IT MAN!

  35. Megatron… all he does is catch (2) touchdowns.

    Cris Carter was a Hall of Fame player, but Megatron is going to bring me a lot of painful moments as a Viking fan in the years ahead.

  36. Andre, Calvin, and Fitzgerald in no particular order. Then the rest of the NFL. Desean is really close, but those 3 are in a league by themselves.

    While I don’t agree with Chris Carter, that doesn’t change the fact that he was one of the top 5 receivers in his era. I would put him behind Jerry rice and that is it, unless you consider Randy moss in the same era. Personally I think that moss belongs in a later generation. But anyone who thinks that Chris carter was a loser or anything other than a top flight wr in the history of the NFL has no clue. Carter was the greatest possession receiver since Raymond berry

  37. It’s his job to say stuff that gets people talking. Johnson is great but I want to see him do it for years. CJ more physically gifted than Cris Carter but he might have LEARNED some of his moves from Carter. Get back to me in 5 years to see how he stacks up.

  38. mossholder , Jennings’ approach is more cerebral and better at a fine-tuned level. Johnson is probably more gifted physically.

  39. Speaking as a huge Buckeye fan, Carter is an idiot. He’s the most unapproachable athlete I’ve ever seen. Pains me not to watch his son Duron shame the family name.

  40. “skoobyfl says:
    Sep 27, 2011 5:59 PM
    The real ironic part is Stafford’s head is getting bigger than most doorways on his 3 wins, 2 of which came against teams with 0-3 records (one they needed OT to beat).

    Detroit is also behind the Buffalo Bills in the standings & the scoreboard total, so I’d sit back & call out when you beat some real teams.”

    Hmmm…behind the Bills exactly how?? Looks like the same record to me. Exactly how is Staffords head getting ” bigger than most doorways”? I live in Michigan, and Stafford is most calm and mild mannered athlete in Detroit. Your motto is clearly “need a story…make one up”. You’re a tool…

  41. I’m actually predicting 3 touchdowns for megatron this week..eh but who’s counting:) start praying Dallas Staffords playing back Home and he’s gonna have a monster game.

  42. As a Viking and a huge Cris Carter fan, Cris needs to stop doing analysis on players. Calvin Johnson is a beast and is one of the top 5 WRs in the league. This guy has more yards receiving than any other WR since he’s been in the league and has done it without a decent QB throwing to him. Yes he has Stafford now and that’s not designed to say he’s bad. Stafford is a good QB but he hasn’t had a full season yet. Cris seems to put his foot in his mouth a lot.

  43. Cris Carter was a good receiver, but he is a terrible analyst. Nothing he says makes any sense. He is the Joe Morgan of football. You should need an IQ of at least 75 in order to be given a microphone.

  44. Forget all these individual stats, and especially forget Chris Carter…. just GET TO THE PLAYOFFS! I don’t care what team you cheer for, most football fans have GOT to be pulling for the Lions to finally break out of the post-Barry Sanders slump. We WANT that Thanksgiving Day game to mean something! We WANT to see special players like Megatron in the playoffs.

    So please, just keep doing what you’ve been doing… which is playing good football and winning.

  45. I agree Megaron, Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson are the top three 100% for sure. You can make an argument for each guy, I still may say Calvin but I may be a little biased lol.

  46. There’s only one retired WR who’s qualified to say anything about anybody:

    Jerry Rice.

    Carter, Moss and all the rest of those punks can sit down and shut up.

  47. i love seeing stafford stick up for his reciever. he knows that he needs johnson.

    im a giants fan and i havent missed one of the lions games this season bc im a HUGE suh fan and watching stafford and johnson hook up repeatedly has made my sundays even better

  48. 2 TDs??

    Not this week. Stafford likely won’t have time to setup, let alone connect consistently.

  49. @BigBoi
    Alright be a big boy and try and learn your facts. Try not to cry to hard as someone lays some real facts on you. Yes the Bills have scored alot of points but because they had to fight back and barely win on last second scores. Lets look at defence who has the better redzone defence between the Bills and Lions? The Lions. Who has less points aginst? The Lions. Who has a better turnover differential? The Lions. Oh and lets not forget this little fact. Who holds the NFL’s longest active winning streak? Lets see, at 7-0 (11-0 including preseason) is the , yup you guessed it, The Lions.

    So why the Bills have got to 3-0, by the grace of the football gods, the Lions are the team to beat (between the two). They bot have great offences, but if the Bills meet the Detroit Defence, they will be exposed for the frauds they are.

    *******************************************

    Brady had 4 INT in 2010, the Bills turned 4 on him in the past game. Who we’re your turnovers against ?? Two 0-3 teams ?? Let’s see how the Lions handle their division leader on defense before claiming superiority. The Bills also fought back against Tom Brady / NE, you guys fought back against the Mr. Washed-up / Vikings. Preseason victory claims are a real stretch & I’d like to see them play anyone that might make the playoffs this year first.

    I hope to see you guys in the Superbowl.

  50. You should seriously change the headline.

    He’s not taking a shot, he’s backing up his teammate.

    A shot would have been something like “CALVIN JOHNSON > CRIS CARTER – U HRD IT HERE 1ST”

    Stupid twitter.

  51. skooby / bigboi –

    If you think Detroit and Buffalo are playing in the SB after 3 weeks, I have a nice shiny Brooklyn Bridge to sell you.

  52. Ok listen, Carter is a terrible analyst at times, but you guys taking that to the next level and actually questioning his ability on the field need to STOP right now.

    Carter took a back seat to nobody in his prime except for Jerry Rice (who wouldn’t)

    He is top 5 all time and the king of clutch sideline catches. That is not up for debate, it’s fact. So please just stop right now.

  53. Geez, why does Stafford care what Cris thinks?
    —————————————————–
    because it’s his WR that Carter talked about.

    As for his head getting bigger and bigger, uh, how???? Did he say about Carter that “I” am great and talk about how he’s better than Brady??? no, he was defending his WR, he’s talking up his WR, not himself, big headed guys talk up themselves, not others.

    Normally, i am NOT a fan of talking trash off the field, but here i tend to agree with Stafford. he is just proud of how Johnson played and is letting Carter know that he thinks he’s top 5 and i agree.

  54. Chris carter had, will have the best ball catching ability of all time…everyone boasts rice, and now megatron…I agree that these are great wideouts, but look at who was throwing the ball to carter…talk about making the best out of the worst

  55. Carter’s a tool; intimidates because he fears his record will be broken and doesn’t want it to be.

  56. Cris Carter is delusional. He’s obviously using alcohol and large amounts of ecstasy and marijuana AGAIN.

    Last time I checked, Calvin Johnson is not a drug addict like Cris Carter so he’s already a better MAN than him which is more important.

  57. Megatron is outstanding and obviously a top 3 receiver. However, those of you giving “thumbs down” to posts about C(h)ris Carter as one of the greats know nothing about football. Carter’s QBs could throw the ball anywhere and he would catch it. He would go over the middle or run the sideline like a tightrope. He was not nearly as physically gifted as others, but he was the quintessential receiver, who reinvented the fade route in the red zone. In retirement, Carter has proven to be an a-hole. That’s not unusual.

    @soulman45,

    Dude, I have resisted for several weeks, but your abuse of the English language is brutal. If it is unintentional, I apologize.

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!

  58. “Or maybe Johnson will need to break Carter’s record, with two more two-touchdown games.”

    If anyone can get it done it’s megatron and stafford. Carter can kiss his record goodbye and tie his napkin round his neck for his serving of humble pie.

  59. and,he looks like mr edthe talking horse’s grandson and john elways cousin in that pic you have posted with this story! just feed him carrots all day,and he’s happy!

  60. Now, now Matty. Let’s see if you two can actually make it through a whole season before you start giving Mr. Carter lip.

    As of right now, Megatron has LONG way to go before anyone can say he’s remotely close to being as good as Carter.

  61. 1. Fitzgerald
    2. Andre Johnson
    3. Reggie wayne
    4-6. Jennings, Welker, Megatron, in no particular order

    Guess what. Rankings are subjective. He may not be top five on everyones list, get over it. What we really need to address is the incessant need to rank every freaking position all the time. Stop it with the rankings.

  62. Carter’s mouth has been ticking me off lately, but my gosh Matthew….if you can’t spell his first name correctly, you don’t deserve to criticize him.

  63. Hey Jakek2:

    He didn’t use “foam in the mouth” and “fantasy” in the same sentence, you see that period? That’s what separates sentences.

    As for everyone else, keep talking about how the Lions haven’t won anything but 3 games. Keep talking about how Stafford and Cal will get hurt. We’ll just keep torching ya:-) No one can stop Megatron, so get ready to triple team him and watch Burleson and Titus Young walk into the endzone

  64. @ sckoobyfl and jakek2

    Seriously, what the h*ll is in your drinking water? Or is it just good old fashioned imbreeding? Not sure but ok, ill indulge you. Read my comment over, if you know how to read. Bills squeaked by the Patriots. How bad did you beat up on Oakland? Lol. And where in the h*ll did I say anything about the Superbowl? Seriously? At this point you dumb*sses are predicting that? In a year were the lockout messed everything up, your both are calling it? Wow, let me take you to Vegas. You both deserve each other, cause your doth a couple of Tools.

    Ok wait, here is my backwoods comback to you idiots.
    You will see us in the Superbowl, on your a**es at home infront of your t.v. Like the rest of your teams.

    There, now get typing you pathetic comeback, while your thinking “Oh no he didnt”

  65. Buffalo fans should not wish to meet anyone in the superbowl. Superbowl + Buffalo = high possibility of another blowout loss. Buffalo is riding fluke games just like KC last year. The proof is in the pudding and KC worked on adding more talent. Nobody wanted to go to Buffalo. At least Detroit has been building up the team the past few years. Buffalo was a week 1 favorite to land the #1 overall pick. Everyone expected Detroit to be improved

  66. Please stop wrongly reporting what happened. Everybody is doing it. Stafford was poking fun at Carter because he reiterated his position on Calvin Johnson today, not because of what he said earlier. You can have an opinion. But to lie and say you have that opinion because you watch the tape and Calvin is never double teamed or is no game changer is just sad.

    Just admit you hate the Lions and, therefore, will not put Calvin Johnson in the elite category as a result.

    No worries Cris…..Almost nobody sees you as an elite analyst. Get ready to eat your humble pie if Stafford stays healthy.

    For God sake. Calvin Johnson had better stats in the last 4 years than anybody and his QBs were Kitna, Orlovsky, Hill, Stanton, the rookie version of Stafford and now the first 3 games of the new and improved Stafford. 12 TDs in an 0-16 season……12 wins before this year and he was the only weapon on the team….This will be his breakout year and there will be no doubt by the end of this year who the best WR is.

  67. Chris C started the vertical passing attack. The game has evolved and now Mega is in the prime of the NFL attack.

  68. Ok, I will be the “old man” here and speak the truth for you all. Cris Carter was a badass. Simple as that. You are an idiot if you try to dispute that. Try and quote that Berman BS of “all he does” etc if you choose, but that was Buddy Ryan covering for the man and his addictions when he was forced to cut him. Carter rebounded quite nicely in Minnesota if nobody took notice. He should be in the HOF without a doubt. Now, be realistic and look at what your little “megatron” did coming into this year. He fell far short of potential. Carter was correct, and he said what he said because Calvin should dominate. Because he is finally making big plays that matter doesn’t make Carter wrong. Wake up people.

  69. @skoobyfl

    3rd game of the year man, 13 more games to go.

    @coolzog

    Kitna actually talked poo before the season if I remember right….and regardless, it didn’t work out ha

  70. This is another non-story that’s supposed to stir the pot for page hits. Here’s what Carter said Tuesday morning: “Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now and he’s beating single coverage. They had double-coverage in the red zone. Him and Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-5 level. But before this season, he wasn’t better than the other four guys. He’s starting to come into his own, which he should be. … He should be coming into his prime and he’s only going to get better. He’s a phenomenal player.”

  71. i guess cris didn’t learn any lesson from when buddy ryan said “carter only catches touchdowns”

    he didn’t learn how easy it is to stick one’s foot in one’s mouth

  72. coolzog says:
    Sep 27, 2011 10:07 PM
    Hey remember when the Lions were 6-2 and Kitna start talking sh*t? Yah, that didn’t work out so well for them…
    =============================
    Rest assured, your beatdown is coming , Packer Fan.

    Hail Megatron!

  73. Bears fan here, Johnson is a top 3 every year and this year probably the best WR in the league

  74. Folks – ESPN analysts aren’t paid for expertise. They’re paid and in turn, rewarded with more air time, for headline grabbing comments they make. (See Teddy Bruschi, Mark Schlereth, Herm Edwards and now CC). You’re not being talked to anymore by analysts, you’re being yelled at. And sometimes being told things that simply aren’t true.

  75. Chris Carter, everyone at ESPN, Harrison they are all in it for shock value. To get you to watch their shows.

    Reporting / Analysis is a joke these days.

    Great to see the Lions kicking some tail.

  76. Recently Andre Johnson, who may be the best receiver in the league today, was asked who the best receiver in the league is. Without hesitation, he said “Calvin Johnson”.

    Carter should have his feet planted in dirt and get watered three times a week, because he’s just that stupid.

    Calvin is an elite receiver, just ask any CB that has to face him, and needs to have a safety over the top to make sure he doesn’t get owned.

  77. Cris how’s that HOF induction working out for ya? Megatron is one of the sickest WR’s i’ve ever seen play the game, and Blackmon coming out of Ok St. reminds me exactly of megatron at G Tech. Love if my Ravens could grab him but we’ll have too low of a 1st rounder.

  78. Hate to say it Lions fans but Detroit will probably not make the playoffs. They’ll go on some 6 or 7 game losing streak or Stafford will get knocked out for a large part of the season. They are cursed and Stafford just keep your mouth shut and play ball.

    GO PACK GO!

  79. 1. Fitzgerald
    2. Andre Johnson
    3. Reggie wayne
    4-6. Jennings, Welker, Megatron, in no particular order

    Guess what. Rankings are subjective. He may not be top five on everyones list, get over it. What we really need to address is the incessant need to rank every freaking position all the time. Stop it with the rankings.

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    seriously? alright first off, i went to school with greg jennings at K Central, and at Western and know him fairly well. My brother does lots of work with his charity group and fundraisers he holds. Fact is Jennings is a great WR, vastly underrated, but even he will tell you, he’s not ahead of Calvin.

    I’m sorry, Andre, Fitz, and Calvin (no particular order) are 1-3. That shouldn’t even be a discussion. Nobody else has the combination of skill, and physical ability as these 3 combined to match proven results. Wayne?? maybe a couple years ago but he can’t stretch the field.

    from #4 down you can put a lot of names as they’re all solid within their own abilities but they’re all tough to compare because of the different skill sets. Andre, Fitz, and Calvin are legit #1 guys, they can do it all and have the physical size to dominate, unfortunately nobody else in the “second tier” have the combination of all those factors.

  80. I was a Carter fan too, when he was playing…. He still to this day has one of the best set of hands to ever play the game. I am quite sure MOST of you never even watched him play.
    NOW, as for his read on Calvin, he’s wrong, but no one can rightfully beat on him for his time as a player. As for Carter as an analyst? Put him in the same group as Gruden, Jaws, Irvin and Sapp… they just don’t have the knack for it.

  81. Carter is an overblown gas bag who makes half baked analysis to back up his sketchy opinions.

    It’s still hilarious to listen to Mike Greenberg crawl all over his jock to ingratiate himself to “C. C.” after being chewed out for disagreeing with him a year ago.

    Having said that Johnson may not be “elite” in the sense of holding a single season or career record. But he has been ridiculously good and is on the cusp of elite.

  82. Who us calvin johnson? Does he play fir a team that went 0-16? Or dors he play for the team that hadnt gone to the playoffs since barry sanders? Maybe if this cj guy plays a few years, breaks a record or 3, wins a couple playoff games, he might be considered elite.

  83. @skolvikesskol

    Right. Because Megatron plays quarterback, cornerback, linebacker, d-lineman and special teams in addition to his wide receiver duties.

    So why shouldn’t he be considered elite?

    <_<

  84. chatttty says: Sep 27, 2011 6:04 PM

    Carter wouldn’t be a top 20 receiver in todays NFL. I’d like to see Carter come out from behind his desk and say that to megatrons face.
    _________________________________________________________________Don’t get it twisted! While I agree that alot of the older players, including Cris Carter, talk crap & are often wrong, Carter was a man in his day! He could most definitely play the game! He didn’t just talk the talk, as they say, he walked the walk! As for Calvin Johnson, he is for sure elite & can snag the ball!
    _

  85. bigboi30 says:Sep 27, 2011 6:33 PM

    @ skoobyfl

    Alright be a big boy and try and learn your facts. Try not to cry to hard as someone lays some real facts on you. Yes the Bills have scored alot of points but because they had to fight back and barely win on last second scores. Lets look at defence who has the better redzone defence between the Bills and Lions? The Lions. Who has less points aginst? The Lions. Who has a better turnover differential? The Lions. Oh and lets not forget this little fact. Who holds the NFL’s longest active winning streak? Lets see, at 7-0 (11-0 including preseason) is the , yup you guessed it, The Lions.

    So why the Bills have got to 3-0, by the grace of the football gods, the Lions are the team to beat (between the two). They bot have great offences, but if the Bills meet the Detroit Defence, they will be exposed for the frauds they are.
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    first things first. who cares that the lions went 4-0 in the preseason, they also went 4-0 then went 0-16. remember that? TO differential… 6-5 lions, but one of the Ints the bills had was in garbage time against the chiefs, (by brad smith). Longest win streak? who cares how they finished last season, that point is completely irrelevant. they are both 3-0 right now, thats all that matters. and the bills having to fight back? they came back against brady and the pats. brady is on pace to destroy marino’s record. who have the lions beat? the bucs, vikings, chiefs? both teams destroyed them. the lions were getting killed by the vikings until they stopped running the ball, didnt they have to come back? the raiders game was back and forth, and the bills had the lead over the pats, then they tied, then the bills kicked the FG. your points are irrelevant

  86. I’m definitely not a fan, but I dont have any love or hate for Detroit. Megatron on the other hand……. Well I would trade both Crabtree and Edwards for him

  87. @billsfan007 AND @skoobyfl

    How awesome is this that we are arguing whos better Bills or Lions???

    Being a Bills fan, Im loving it that The Bills and Lions are kicking butt.

    Just ENJOY IT!!!!!

  88. Who is Matt Staford again and what has he done…..I think he might want to shut his mouth and play ball……Granted i dont agree with Cris Carter’s comments about megatron not being elite because he is, but this i do know for certain, Cris Carter is a top 5 all time great receiver. Michale Irvin couldnt carry Carter’s jock strap his stats back that up. He will be in the HOF, not every one makes it the first try!. HE is BAR non the best boundary receiver EVER. HE had the best hands for a wide receiver EVER, youtube it if you like, most experts agree on this, so he does know what hes talking about most of the time, and if he played today he would be a top 5 receiver, lets see how many thumbs down i get and see how many ignornant people there are out there.

  89. Cris Carter is just Tiki Barber other than cheating on his pregnant wife.

    Then again, Carter was a drunk and a drug addict who nearly blew away a career because of what a loser he really is in life.

    So I guess they cancel each other out.

  90. I know I’m a little late to this party, but I did some stat checking. Of the guys Carter mentioned, only one had more TDs in the last 4+ years(thats the previous 4 seasons, and the first 3 games this year). That’s Fitzgerald. Also, Fitzgerald is the only one who had more yards and TDs his first 4 years in the league. Which btw, the last 4 years were CJ’s FIRST 4 YEARS! And he’s done all that on some horrible teams, including one that DIDN’T WIN A GAME. My point is, CJ has already displayed consistancy, with a revolving door of inconsistant QBs. I think it’s going to get crazy with Stafford throwing frickin’ laserbeams at him every game.

  91. I think we’re coming dangerously close to badmouthing Cris Carter here. After all, he was involved in mentoring and tutoring one of the Lions’ young receivers back in the day, so he knows of which he speaks. Of course, that receiver was Mike Williams, and we can all say THAT experiment was an unqualified success, so there you are. Cris Carter knows receivers, people!

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