Harbaugh: Steelers-Ravens rivalry takes you to “dark place”

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There’s just something different about Ravens-Steelers.

I’ve called it the best rivalry in the NFL more than once because the games between the two AFC North rivals are always intense, memorable, and meaningful.

In a conversation with NFL.com’s Albert Breer, Ravens coach John Harbaugh puts the matchup in perspective.

“It’s almost surreal,” Harbaugh said. “All of a sudden, everything’s different. You go into this dark place. It’s like you’re in this globe, in a good way, and suddenly there’s nothing outside of that moment, outside of that stadium.

“It’s unique to these games, and yet, both teams are so comfortable in that place. It’s where we’re supposed to be. It’s where they’re supposed to be. It’s hard to describe.”

That did the trick pretty well.

Part of football’s appeal: It can sometimes be played in a dark place. The Ravens and Steelers matchup embody the game’s mix of hitting, toughness, and competitive play at the highest level. It’s a blast to watch.

Week One’s matchup didn’t live up the rivalry’s usual high standards.  This one means more.

Something tells me Sunday night will be different.

83 responses to “Harbaugh: Steelers-Ravens rivalry takes you to “dark place”

  1. it is still a crime they will have played both of the regular season games before thanksgiving. at least we still will probably have the AFC Championship, which we’ll hopefully win this time.

  2. This rivalry is more overrated than Pats/Jets, and I didn’t think that was possible.

    I doubt I’ll even watch it, the opener was a snoozer.

  3. “All of a sudden, everything’s different. You go into this dark place.”

    C’mon John, the fans might be mongoloids but Pittsburgh is actually a pretty nice city.

  4. To all you real fan here’s to another great game. Huge game and it’s just beginning of November. Time to shine under the lights.

    LET’S GO RAVENS!!!

  5. We have had some horrible national games the past few weeks, with the Ravens/Jags taking the prize.

    I am looking forward to this one and hoping they live up to the hype and play at the highest level. Should be 1 hell of a game.

    Beat each other up for the Niners too, please.

  6. It’s not only the best rivalry in football it’s so far above second place it’s scary. Don’t care if you don’t like either team if you don’t watch these two go at and not wish your team played that way you are lying to yourself. I hate Baltimore more than I can say but I love how they play us.

  7. @YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou

    Is it? I mean come on. Is it really that nice of a city?

  8. This is usually a great game. The first game was an aberration. I suspect Sunday’s game to be the typical smashmouth game though.

    With that said, let’s hope nobody gets seriously hurt and the best team wins.

  9. @ mvpolamalu says: Nov 3, 2011 6:33 PM

    Flaccos gunna need to throw for more than 1 yard in the first half to win this one!

    So he should do what he did to you week #1? Stupid comment

  10. “Week One’s matchup didn’t live up the rivalry’s usual high standards. ”

    Not sure what you mean, I thought the first game was awesome!!!

  11. I agree the first game was not as good as the hype. Additionally a game between the 5th and 6th best teams in the NFL doesn’t exactly excite me but whatever I guess some people get giddy about bronze medals.

  12. I hate the Steelers. I hate most of their fans. I can’t stand the city and saying all that, it is without question the best rivalry in football.

    The Browns fans are jealous. The Bengals fans aren’t even in the same time zone.

    This game gives me the shakes it is so damned intense. When we are at the stadium it is so loud it actually hurts to listen. When I watch on TV, I pace in front of the picture until the game is over.

    And while we may come out on the short end of the stick, we know the Squealers will go home limping just like us.

    That being said, I just believe that the Ravens have the better team this year. The game rests on how well our offense plays against your defense. Ben will get his plays. He is going to account for about 17 – 20 points and pay for every one of them. The question is whether or not our offense will outplay your defense. With your injuries and our skill position players, I think the answer is yes. But we will see.

  13. These last few years have been glorious moments for this rivalry, its close to being perfect. Both teams respect each other, both teams hate each other, and its gonna be one hell of a Sunday night.

    Here we go Steelers.

  14. Flaccos gunna need to throw for more than 1 yard in the first half to win this one!

    So he should do what he did to you week #1? Stupid comment

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    There aren’t 9 months to come up with a gameplan that completely catches them off guard this time.

    It was cute to see Flacco think he was a decent QB in Week 1 during a 1 PM game in his own stadium, but now bigger things are at stake, the pressure is much higher, and Fluke-o will be on the road in a primetime November game. This is where the truest form of Joe always shines through.

    I can’t wait to watch him completely implode like he always does.

  15. That “Dark Place” is going to be Hines Ward getting FUBAR’d again by Jarret Johnson. The last thing he will remember before being cut after this year.

  16. No other games will be on Sunday night except this one. If you are a fan of another team, you can watch this game without missing your team play. If you are not interested in watching this game, YOU are not a true football fan, because it pits 2 of the toughest teams in the same division against each other, with leadership of the AFC at stake. What true football, with no other game on, wouldn’t want to watch this game?

    I guanrantee you this, fans of both the Steelers and Ravens are counting down the seconds until this game. Sunday will seem like a day that lasts about a week until the game starts!

    Good luck to all, but here’s hoping the Steelers get some payback for that first game!

    GO STEELERS!!

  17. It certainly is the best rivalry in the NFL. It might not end up being the best rivalry 10 years from now, but it certainly is right now.

  18. ravensfan4life52 says:
    Nov 3, 2011 6:51 PM

    Is it? I mean come on. Is it really that nice of a city?

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    It was just named as one of only two “Must see” places in the US (other was Sonoma, CA) by Travel Magazine. It also was named second most beautiful view in America – Nighttime view from Mount Washington – by USA Weekend (second to Sedona Red Rock Country. It also finishes near or at the top for politest, most livable, cleanest (by Forbes), best / most stable economy and employment. So, yea, it is that nice. Most people just can’t get past the image of the smoke and mills that are no longer there. That line of thinking belongs to the dinosaurs (oh, and Pittsburgh has been named one of the best place to see Dinosaurs, according to Travel Channel, thanks to the Carnegie Museum or Natural History and its outstanding dinosaur collection.)

  19. This game is a back yard brawl.
    These two teams LOVE to HIT each other.
    It’s legal… but really physical.
    They just enjoy tearing each other apart and I enjoy watching it.
    This is called HATE.
    This game is like pouring gasoline on a kickoff and lighting a match.

  20. The dark place is this : Repeat week # 1.
    Yea, though we walk through the valley of the dark place, we fear no evil. Why ? Because we are the meanest muthas in the valley.

  21. Childressrulz says:

    I agree the first game was not as good as the hype. Additionally a game between the 5th and 6th best teams in the NFL doesn’t exactly excite me but whatever I guess some people get giddy about bronze medals.

    Guess he would prefer watching the 28th best team get whipped by just about anybody to watching two competitive teams play. If we are playing for a bronze medal are you playing for a participation ribbon? You know the ones – you likely have a shoe box full of them from your high school days.

  22. The Steelers have won 62% of the meetings with the Ravens. If they played 16 games a year the Steelers would be 10 and 6 and the Ravens 6 and 10. Rivalry? Yes with a small r.

  23. It was just named as one of only two “Must see” places in the US (other was Sonoma, CA) by Travel Magazine. It also was named second most beautiful view in America – Nighttime view from Mount Washington – by USA Weekend (second to Sedona Red Rock Country. It also finishes near or at the top for politest, most livable, cleanest (by Forbes), best / most stable economy and employment. So, yea, it is that nice. Most people just can’t get past the image of the smoke and mills that are no longer there. That line of thinking belongs to the dinosaurs (oh, and Pittsburgh has been named one of the best place to see Dinosaurs, according to Travel Channel, thanks to the Carnegie Museum or Natural History and its outstanding dinosaur collection.)

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    Meh, I was born, raised, and still live in Pittsburgh. I’ve done some extensive traveling throughout the U.S. and really don’t understand how Pittsburgh is a “must-see” city. I have to say there are much better looking places out there. There’s some fun stuff to do here, but dinosaurs? Yeah, maybe to see once every few years. Seriously, they don’t change.

  24. Love the ravens, hate the steelers, but these are the top two teams in the AFC. Pats are overated and the playoffs will go through whoever wins this game. Also, i know that both teams fans can agree with me, when you have to laugh at the NFC fans who come on here and call this rivalry overated. Nobody in the NFC wants a piece of either of these teams……

  25. I don’t even want to read most of these comments because I know there will be fans from each team talking sh*t on each other or fans from other teams talking sh*t on both teams.

    This is truly the best rivalry there is in the NFL. And I guarantee you that while the fans loathe the other team EVERY Steeler fan would love to have Suggs, Rice, Lewis or Reed just like EVERY Ravens fan would love to have Roethlisberger, Polamalu, Harrison and Wallace.

    I’m a true blue Steelers fan and would welcome those Ravens on my team any time.

    That’s what makes this rivalry so great. We hate each other’s team almost as bad as cancer, yet we’d love to have the other team’s players playing for our team.

    That’s why this game is so damn special.

  26. I’m a diehard Viking fan and I must say that this rivalry has almost entertained me as much as the Vikes versus the Pack. It’s always a hard fought matchup and I think that the previous bout between these two teams will increase the tenacity even more on both sides of the ball.

  27. @squealcity

    im sorry, every team has bad games. if you dont believe me, go watch that jaguars/ravens game tape

  28. tk1966 says: Nov 3, 2011 7:55 PM

    It was just named as one of only two “Must see” places in the US (other was Sonoma, CA) by Travel Magazine.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    A person would have to be an complete moron to believe that statement. You would absolutely have to be the most narrow-minded, sheltered, uneducated idiot to walk the planet to think that.

    Or you’d have to be a Steeler fan. I know, “narrow minded, sheltered, uneducated idiot” and “Steeler fan” is redundant, but oh well.

    There are only two “must see places” in the country, and Pittsburgh is one of them????? LOL!!!

    Seriously? Seriously.

    I wonder how much money the Burg of Pits paid Travel magazine to write that. There are approximately 3,726 cities I’d rather visit than Pittsburgh, and that includes Newark NJ, Cleveland, and Cincinnatti.

    Let’s face some reality here. It’s well known that Steeler fans “travel well”, meaning, they show up at other stadiums when their team is playing there. But why?

    Well, the reason Steelers fans “travel so well” is because no one from Pittsburgh actually lives there. They spread like rats, infesting other cities throughout this great land of ours, like they are escaping a sinking ship.

    It’s a great place to “be from” not “be in”.

  29. This is football the way that football SHOULD be played.

    Goodell should do the NFL a favor, and tell the ref’s that the rules for this game should be those of the 1970’s. Let these guys beat and batter each other, and let the best team win.

    As a Steelers fan, as much as I hate the Ravens, I respect them more than any other team in football. As I believe Suggs said, we are built to beat them, and they are built to beat us.

    What Harbaugh said in this article is exactly how Ravens and Steelers fans feel. Every time these two teams play each other SHOULD be in Prime Time.

    HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!

  30. bengalsown – yes….you are used to yawning…watching the futility of one of the worst franchises in the history of pro sports should make you yawn……but that’s what most do when the Bungals highlights appear on Sportscenter…..if not “click”

  31. I wonder if sweeping a division happens in another time zone? Hmmm, I’m thinking 2009….I LOVE the Bengal haters. Makes me smile 🙂

  32. chains23522 says: Nov 3, 2011 7:37 PM

    This is HARDLY the best rivalry in the NFL. Rivalries take decades to form not 16 years.

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    Alright, smart guy. Which team is the expansion team: the Brown or the Ravens?

    At least know your history before making stuff up.

  33. eaglesandravens says:
    Nov 3, 2011 6:54 PM
    @Nevis

    You must not be a football fan. This isn’t a dr. phil forum….

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    Or, I’m tired of watching the Steelers and Ravens and have no interest in either team. Ben is a scumbag and Flacco sucks. The defenses, while good, are 105 years old.

    In the opener, the Ravens made it a completely one-sided game and was over by the end of the first quarter.

    Oh no, what will I do if I miss it?

    But I’m sure that can’t be a possibility of why I won’t watch it.

  34. Sophie,
    you are absolutely entitled to your opinion – your whiney opinion filled with childish name calling. I, on the other hand, presented facts. Feel free to disagree all you want. But the whining and name calling makes you sound a wee bit childish.

  35. Steeler Fans,
    You seem to think YOU have payback for us. You fail to realize we aint done for the atrocities of the last few years. Week One wasn’t any where close to payback. JJ – please finish it this time- He single handedly shortened the career of the greatest safety of all time.

  36. @ MVPOLAMALU

    You are the one who first posted a ridicolous comment about how Flacco better throw for more than 1 yard in the first half to beat the Steelers. Well I think he did a tad bit better than that against the Steelers week #1, wouldn’t you agree genius. Your right, Flacco had a horrific game against the Jags, but, every match up is different. But based on your statements, I guess the Jags have a better Defense and game plan than the Steelers since Flacco scorched the Steelers week #1.

  37. 808raiderinparadise says:Nov 3, 2011 8:15 PM

    Dark place? Pitt and Blatimore? More like a dirty place.
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    Hahahaha…..Wow, coming from an Oakland fan! This is the same town where the riots are taking place right now over an imaginary Wall Street revolution! That city needs something to believe in I guess…Pretty soon the Raiders will be playing their home games at San Quentin Prison so all of their season ticket holders won’t miss the game… “The Black Hole”, couldn’t be more accurate for the armpit of America!

  38. Just be sure not to walk into that dark place with Ray Ray, otherwise you’ll come out looking like a colander.

    And if he wasn’t responsible, he’ll still jump around and preen for the cameras as if he were.

  39. To tk1966: Certainly you must be referring to the Stoolers offensive line as to the Dinosaur findings! As for the 2nd meeting of this rivalry, Pitttosaurus will be AGAIN found choking in the tarpits!
    R*A*V*E*N*S*R*U*L*E*!

  40. The Steelers own the Ravens in the playoffs.
    When the Ravens and Flako actually beat the Steelers, even once in the playoffs, you might have a great rivalry. Even the wins Baltimore has mustered against the Steelers does not put them on top of that stat either. They are not on the top of this rivalry in any way shape or form, except trash talking maybe. They respect each other sure. They have had close games sure.
    When they actually limp out of Pittsburgh with a win, thats an accomplishment. Thats how much better the Steelers are. Close doesnt cut it. It is a fact the Steelers can close the deal. A Ravens win Sunday would really do a lot to make it a better
    rivalry. Ravens loss Sunday is expected. At least thats what the history of these two teams dictate.

  41. I just finished watching the first game again, and as a Steeler fan, i don’t feel nearly as bad about it as I did when it happened. On the first TD, McFadden was right there, he just didn’t make the play. [he is on the bench now] On Rice’s big runs there was someone there to make the tackle each time, they either whiffed or overran the play. On his big catch and run, there was a mix-up and both the LB and DB followed the TE, leaving Rice alone. On another big 3rd down conversion by the TE, Timmons got picked off by the DB. Both of the big fumbles were mix-ups on the O Line, leaving Suggs and Ngata untouched. With both Ben’s picks to Reed he had open receivers, he just threw bad balls. The Steelers ran the ball very well, until they got so far behind they had to abandon. No doubt it was a butt-kicking . . . but most of it is correctable. Now, we just have to hope they’ve corrected it.

  42. Week 1 meeting between Steelers and Ravens was a perfect storm for Ravens. Opening day AT HOME, screwy off seaon with the lockout, and a Steeler team out of sync on both sides of the ball. These two teams will be within 7 points of each other 9 out of the next 10 times they play (as we have seen over the past several years). It was a fluke and anybody who doesn’t think so doesn’t know football, or is a passion blinded Raven fan. Now it’s at Steelers, they have righted the ship on both sides of the ball (Ravens have regressed badly on offense), and the Steelers have a big chip on their shoulders after that FLUKE game. Should be a good one, “CAN’T WAIT”. Oh, bye the way Raven fans who ran their keyboards after that FLUKE game… It’s still tilted toward the Steelers until you can beat them when the division is on the line or in the playoffs and get to the Superbowl, like the STEELERS JUST KEEP DOING. If Flacco can’t beat the Steelers in Heinz Field this week with 3 out of 4 starting linebackers out of the game… HE NEVER WILL WHEN IT COUNTS. Lets see what ya got Joey!!!

  43. I love it. We got the coach saying stuff. Ee got some mediocre LB 55 saying stuff. Isn’t it usually the teams that lose that are always trying to talk crap? Suggs is only good against the steelers. And man is that not the ugliest face you ever did see? Shew! This little brother syndrome is really kicken in! Big brother gettin ready to stomp all over little brother again! In a MEANINGFUL game!!!!!!

  44. “Dark place”?

    The “dark place” he is referring to is the same place the doctor sticks his hand up after he snaps on that rubber glove.

    A place more commonly known as “Pittsburgh”…

  45. Looks like Harrison will likely play, but Sanders probably won’t. Having the meanest man in the NFL playing again will be a nice boost for the Steelers.

    Hold on tight because Heinz Field will be LOUD on Sunday night, and the Steelers want to even the score this season with the Ravens.

    GO STEELERS!!

  46. @wtf2812 ,
    I’m with you 100%, I can’t stand Suggs, but he is a beast. Mr. Ray Lewis you just have to respect no matter who you root for the man is a great player and team leader. I’m a Steelers fan but would love to have these guys on our team.
    Just like the days when it was Pittsburg and the Raiders, what I wouldn’t give to turn back the clock and see The Snake Stabler and Bradshaw again.
    I dispise the Ravens players, but will miss them when they retire.

  47. Check your history, Flacco has won in Pittsburgh. I seem to remember a late game drive capped off by a Houshmandzadeh TD catch. Oh wait, never mind. That game doesn’t count in the minds of Pittsburgh fans because Ben wasn’t playing. My bad.

  48. To all of you doubting this rivalry, please tell me an NFL “rivalry” that is precisely even by your definitions of rivalries? Packers-Bears is 92-86-6 for the Pack, that’s not even so must not be a rivalry right? We always heard about Cowboys-Redskins and Eagles-Giants rivalries right? Cowboys beating the Redskins 61-40-2 and Giants beating the Eagles 81-72-2, hmmm neither is even. The Steelers are winning this rivalry 18-13 in the regular season, I see nothing any more uneven in that small sample size than any of the other “great” rivalries. The difference that makes this the best currnt rivalry is its recent history of being ratcheted way up. These particular teams don’t like eachother, there’s no dynasties from the past in involved, these 2 present teams flat out don’t like each other but the respect is there? Please show me another rivalry that is CURRENTLY like this one?

  49. Real Steeler fans know it’s a rivalry. The ones saying it isn’t, just like tweaking sensitive Raven fans who take the bait. And if the Ravens win this weekend, we’ll hear about the playoffs. And when the Ravens finally beat the Steelers in the playoffs, we’ll hear about Super Bowls. Why? Because they need something they think they can hold over Ravens fans and they know it will gnaw at Ravens fans. You can always find something to cling to, if you have to.

    It’s a fun game between probably the two best AFC teams. Just enjoy it.

  50. on a side note…the pro bowl should consist of the ravens/steelers/raiders/scott and revis/ with Brady at qb against the rest of the NFC…tell me the AFC wouldn’t win?

    But either way it will be a great game…I would much rather the Ravens lose and beat the Steelers in the playoffs though…I find it nearly impossible to beat the Steelers 3 times in a single season (even though I would love for that to happen)

  51. antibenapalooza says:

    My user name says it all

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    No kidding 🙄 Since you’re finally admitting to being a Ravens fan, guess this means we’ll be spared more ridiculous stories about how you were delivered by Chuck Noll during halftime at Three Rivers, married in Pitt Chapel, yada yada. Most Ravens fans are proud to admit their allegiance and manage to come on the site and talk intelligently about our rivalry instead of pretending to be Steelers fans who hate us from within. But I think they’re all grownups.

  52. first off Flaco will not have a good game..27th rated QB in the league against the number one pass defense in the league?lol not a chance for flaco..if brady cant get 200 yrds in a game against that defense flaco will be lucky to get 100.

    if anyone says this isn’t the best rivalry in the NFL i guess they never watched them play 2 and 3 times a year..this is the hardest played game you will ever see in this game..these 2 teams respect each other and hate each other at same time..they play the same style physical and hard nosed.it will be a close game but i think the steelers will win by at least 6..

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