James Harrison says he can’t and won’t change the way he plays

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Shortly after he was suspended for a game for another helmet-to-helmet hit on another opponent, Steelers linebacker James Harrison told a former teammate that he has no intention of changing the way he plays.

Harrison had a conversation with former Steelers running back Jerome Bettis, who said on ESPN’s NFL Live that Harrison told him he’s going to keep playing the way he has always played, despite the league office cracking down on him for his head shot on Browns quarterback Colt McCoy.

“He told me he can’t,” Bettis said when asked if Harrison would change the way he plays.

Bettis said Harrison doesn’t think he did anything wrong when he hit McCoy, and that he could have hurt McCoy a lot worse if he had wanted to.

“He told me that it was laughable that this was the case — it wasn’t a funny situation but it’s laughable that he would get suspended over what he felt was a very, very small incident,” Bettis said. “In his words, ‘If I would have really hit him I would have close to knocked him out.'”

Asked if Harrison is likely to keep getting in trouble for helmet-to-helmet hits, Bettis answered, “Absolutely.”

“James said that he’s concerned this will happen again and then there will be a larger suspension,” Bettis said, “But he said to me, ‘I’m not going to worry about it. I’m going to play my game. If they suspend me they suspend me, but I’m not going to change the way I play football.'”

158 responses to “James Harrison says he can’t and won’t change the way he plays

  1. Perfect. Answer. The Steelers aren’t a top-3 defense every year because theyr’e good at making ankle tackles. I’m sure that hit made Greg Lloyd and Mean Joe Green proud.

    Keep doing you James, we love you for it.

  2. all someone has to do is CHOP BLOCK HIM at his knees and he wont do anything again

    SWEEP THE LEG – karate kid…

    ha,

    or just take out big ben,

    they play dirty, you play dirty

  3. So ign’ant…I think he seems to think people are mad for hitting McCoy hard. They mad that he specifically went helmet to helmet. Just spear players as hard as you want Harrison. It’s not that hard! He seems to want to talk about playing and his livelihood. He should be a little more inclined to look out for others’ livelihoods as well!

  4. Start fining the organization(100k per suspension per game). They will automatically start reigning in their players regardless of how the players want to play it.

  5. Lawrence Taylor , Mean Joe , Ronnie Lott , Dick Butkus , Dexter Manly etc would all be suspended in todays NFL . Hall of famers made famous by killing QB’s and todays players dont do half the stuff the former players do today . Its a shame . Advocate helmet to helmet with ALL PLAYERS but the QB . Either make all helmet to helmet hits illegal . Or make them all legal . Hate double standard rules .

  6. If Harrison really said this and truly means it, the league should ban him indefinitely.

    The fines haven’t gotten the message across, the one game suspension hasn’t either.

    Does he actually have to permanently injure or kill someone first?

  7. If he “can’t and won’t” change the way he plays then the NFL should tell him he “can’t and won’t” be an employee of the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right. He should be suspended indefinitly. The NFL isn’t fining him and suspending him because they need the money or don’t like him. They are doing it to change the way he plays. If he can’t or won’t play the way the NFL wants him to play then he can go to the CFL. I think I would be more productive if I could work naked but my employer still wouldn’t let me do it. If I refused to take thier warning, I would be let go.

  8. Dont change your ways. You will be broke from fines and missed games
    Then you can change careers

  9. i dont get it, QB is viewed as a runner when he scrambles out of the pocket, said QB starts running, sees Harrison coming and flicks the ball away in a panic, closes his eyes, and braces himself by looking down, how exactly was harrison supposed to avoid hitting him?

  10. Funny how God-del has big ones when dealing with individual players as on this latest and greatest suspensdion on the name of SAFETY. But where did God-del leave them when it comes to the blood test to find illegal drugs that may cause these players health problems later on. What happen to that threat that was to be adminstered game one??? I don’t care who or what gets suspended but it becomes clearer and clearer why fans arern’t shelling out the three big ones to see a game. You can see it can’t you…fantasy football will be on the way side and ther new game …fines and suspensions. These hard hitters contracts will be going through the roof pushed by the fans. QB’s will be getting min wage, Harrison just signed an extension for 250 million over three yeasrs. Help pay those fines you know.

  11. Then he will continue to be fined and suspended until the league just bans him. It’s no skin off their back.

  12. rskills, he did exactly that with Fitzpatrick., He did not go helmet to helmet. He aimed lower, led with his shoulder(his helmet is attached to his head which is next to his neck, so obviously it will be there at impact). yet he got fined. So explain that. Why did Harrison get fined when he made an effort to go lower on a QB last year?

  13. These guys are a dying breed and it is a shame as I remember the day when the NFL was loaded with these types of players, Football Players.

    Today you have a bunch of soft players running around, they are better at acting for Flags after EVERY PLAY then they are at tackling or blocking.

    They brag they are breaking all these records, what records?, it is pitch and catch today. Hope Harrison keeps playing Football as it was meant to be played.

  14. @mjbulls45 – What do you suggest people do to “take out Big ben?” Run him over with a train? Expolde him with a nuke?

  15. trollhammer20 says:
    Dec 13, 2011 4:47 PM
    Hey, did you know that Jerome Bettis is from Detroit?
    ———————————————-

    This became common knowledge 1n 1993 when he came into the league, and got done to death when he played in the SB in 2006 in Detroit then retired.

  16. If he admits that he can’t and won’t play within the rules, then maybe his suspension should be permanent. Is the NFL waiting for him to cripple or paralyze someone first?

  17. Time to retire homie, you can’t play by the rules of the NFL perhaps it’s time for a career change. That or go ahead start your own league with only one team in it like your delusional fans tout.

  18. These are the comments of a guy who just doesn’t get it.

    There are rules in all our lives we don’t like, be it the speed limit on a seemingly desolate stretch of road or some office/corporate policy. We also recognize that that we have to conform our behavior to those rules for the greater benefit of the whole.

    It’s not as though he can’t form tackle – he just chooses not to do it. The way he leads with the crown of his helmet is dangerous to himself and others. He’s one tackle away from a broken neck if he keeps spearing people like that.

    He’s the kind of player you show on tape to your linebackers and say “play with his passion, but don’t tackle like him.”

  19. they aren’t double standard rules. spearing is, and always has been, illegal. simple as that. citing what the old players would do is really dumb as we didnt have the evidence of the effects of repeated brain trauma. i love sports, but i have no interest in watching men kill themselves.

  20. I never thought I could wish kharmatic retaliation on someone before, but I would LOVE to see this guy paralyze himself by playing this way.

    I can’t say it’s an accident if he’s making a choice to do this knowing the risks. Better for him to injure himself than to injure someone else. No one cries for the drunk driver that hits a tree and hurts himself.

  21. So everyone else has to follow the rules and change their way of playing except you! The rules changed, therefore you must change to play within the rules.
    You obviously think these rules don’t or shouldn’t apply to you.
    Arrogant, idiot Steeler.
    Wow, didn’t realize how redundant that last statement was!

  22. He made a tackle at full speed. He didn’t hit him in the head on purpose. His arms were out to wrap up and its an automatic reaction to lower your head when you tackle. Thats what he is saying, he is not going to slow his game down to the detriment of hurting his ability to tackle an opponent. It was an accident and Goodell doesn’t understand squat in regards to the game because he never played either. These things will continue to happen because its the nature of the game. You can tell when someone does it intentionally, and this wasn’t the case. Goodell is an idiot who is going to ruin the game for all of us. I bet 90 percent of you never even played, but you run your mouth like you know how to tackle.

  23. With punishing employees in any business, you want it to be strong enough to get a message across in hopes the employee will take action to correct the behavior.

    If you run late to work a few times, you get a written warning. If you continue to run late, you might get a suspended for a day or week. After that, you might get fired.

    With Harrison, you can’t really fire the guy, but he is a repeat offender and the suspension is warranted. With his new comments, however, it is clear he is not getting the message and perhaps a lengthier suspension or more punitive fine will turn up the heat if this pattern continues.

  24. Nata breaks Ben’s nose and nothing happens. Harrison hits a RUNNING QB and gets suspended? Keep playing that way and K.O. Rodgers in the Super Bowl!

  25. btaggs says: Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM

    If he “can’t and won’t” change the way he plays then the NFL should tell him he “can’t and won’t” be an employee of the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right. He should be suspended indefinitly. The NFL isn’t fining him and suspending him because they need the money or don’t like him. They are doing it to change the way he plays. If he can’t or won’t play the way the NFL wants him to play then he can go to the CFL. I think I would be more productive if I could work naked but my employer still wouldn’t let me do it. If I refused to take thier warning, I would be let go.

    ^^^^^^^

    Right on! I GET that people on here want to see football played with contact. However, at the end of the day the NFL has to protect it’s players and their investment, let alone try to enable these guys to have healthy and productive lives when they are done with the league. I would imagine most of you on hear commenting about how upset you are that the game is changed haven’t dealt with a loved one with dementia or other ailments tied to severe brain issues. Yes, these guys choose to play professional football and know the risks involved, but to protest the reduction of that risk is beyond idiotic.

  26. Good thing the Steelers have some of the best young talent in the league on their defense. They will be able to overcome this

    Hood, Heyward and Mclendon are solid d linemen that will only get better.

    Woodley and Timmons make up two of the best young linebackers in the league and worilds is showing progress every game (9 tackles, 2 sacks last game) plus stevenson sylvester has played successfully

    ryan mundy is making plays in the secondary and dont forget about the young corners that were displayed against the pats (lewis and allen) and will gay is playing his best football right now

    oh ya i forgot to mention they are all under 26

    and casey hampton, james harrison, troy polamalu ,larry foote, ike taylor, brett kiesel and ryan clark still have some good football left

    The steelers defense is “old” by choice not necessity.

  27. This guy thinks he’s bigger than the league. Harrison, you are an employee! You work for the team, whos sponsored by the league. You don’t play by their rules, go find another game(oops there isn’t really one you can play is there).
    This guy must have a bigger shoe size than IQ. I can’t wait ’til he does this again(assuming the other guy lives) and he gets 5 games. ONLY thing that will get his attention and after texting LOL in response maybe even this doesn’t do it. Defiance isn’t the solution you moron.

  28. If his legs moved as fast as his mouth does he could run circles around everyone in the NFL. Maybe it’s all those head shots that makes him so stupid.

  29. It’s clear as day on the replay: Harrison intentionally aimed his helmet at a specific spot. He lined himself up for the tackle, then maneuvered his head into position for a head-leading hit into McCoy’s face.

    That’s all he has to change to get the league ‘off his back’. It doesn’t take a tough guy to lead with his head; that’s just a sucker punch that’s fit for a coward (which Harrison seems to be).

    A tough guy can hit hard and tackle with skill without doing something that could end someone else’s career. This guy is asking for a reality check to be provided to him. He doesn’t seem to get the message off the field, so maybe someone will deliver it on the field.

  30. How about Harrison and Suh just line up 5 yards apart and run full speed at each other. Do this for half time entertainment. The one that lives, wins. After a few concussions they can both go live at the old NFL farts home.

  31. As a football fan not a Steelers fan all i hear is you guys crying like little girls man up THIS IS FOOTBALL played by the baddest of the baddest men on the planet if you dont like football & harrision makes you wanna crawl under your bed go watch Toddlers and tiaras you little girls this is football.. Should James have asked Colt if he would like some tea?

  32. The only bad thing about this is that it reminds me that Harrison is one of the last of his kind. The NFL is moving in the direction of turning all tackles into sliding, arm-wrapping ankle-trippers. Harrison plays like a real man. It’s not his fault that the people on the other end want to play like little girls.

    If you get hit hard, you have two choices: take a smelling salt, or find another profession.

  33. People keep saying, “Do not lead with your helmet!”

    Show me a player who doesn’t. Ray Lewis does it all of the time. You hit with the top of your shoulder pad and your head gets in the way.

    The problem is that people just don’t like James Harrison, which is understandable, but you shouldn’t let it cloud your judgement.

  34. Did you know Harrison has restructured his game checks within his contract so as to not lose as much money for being suspended from games. What does that tell you? He knows it’s inevitable. The man is a headhunter out to paralyze someone…or worse. Some team is going to hi/lo this guy.

  35. I guess it will be ok if he starts taking out opponent’s knees and cause ACL/MCL damage.

  36. Don’t you just love how the internet has made so many people high and mighty? The guys that comment on the site know they would fall at this guy’s feet and worship him if they say saw him walking toward them. Kings of the Keyboard, and never anything more.

  37. Fact: Everyone who is whining about him is fans of a rival or a crappy team. Enjoy mediocrity, suckers!

  38. Forget for a moment what the specific rule is.

    The NFL changes rules all the time. No player has the right to keep playing by the rules he learned by. Face masking used to be legal (in fact it was Night Train Lane’s favorite tackling technique) before the League outlawed it. The wedge, clotheslining – you can name lots of other techniques – were once legal, but now are outlawed.

    No player is allowed to keep playing by old rules just because they were the way he learned to play and he wants to.

  39. Why is it, when I see a picture of this guy, I immediately think of Barry Bonds?
    Hmmm….. HGH?? Naahhhhhh.

    He did take almost 1.5 steps and then led with his helmet, to the helmet of McCoy. This guy needs to play the hand that’s been dealt to him, and retire!

  40. Dick Butkus. Jack Hamm. Ronnie Lott. Jack Youngblood. Merlin Olson.

    Every single one of these players that you numbskulls keep bringing up would have crumpled like a ragdoll if they were hit by someone like James Harrison.

    The game today is.not.COMPARABLE.

    Todays players are infinitely stronger, infinitely faster, train year round, and have access to the best coaches and supplements in the world.

    How DUMB do football fans have to be to not get this?

    Sorry grandpa, your days of the NFL are over. Sad but true. Not sorry to see them go if it means players retiring with better overall health.

    I for one refuse to believe that because you make millions of dollars, it negates the right for players to complain or err on the side of safety. It doesn’t negate their rights as citizens or human beings, just because they make three times what any of you will make in your entire lives.

    Harrison is a tool. A great football player, but a tool.

  41. Man I love old school players. Screw Daisy Goodell. Harrison should’ve clocked McCoy properly. Of course, that would only help the Browns.

  42. I’m so glad I wasted my precious time left on this planet reading comments from those who clearly have not played one down of organized football in their lives.

  43. Ugh, Frank Nunley, Harrison restructured his contract so that they could re-sign Polamalu. Nice try thou…

    I swear about 5% of posters on this site have any idea what they are talking about.

  44. All of the exaggerated jokes about taking out knees etc is a testament to his clean play. Because if he took out knees etc then u can consider him a dirty player.

  45. I’ve never rooted for a player to be injured, until Harrison. I sincerely hope an opposing team goes after his knees in a hi-lo. If you are playing to deliberately injure someone, you have no place in football. His refusal to change his game at all shows he has no regard for the health of others. He needs to be out. period. And no cornernum23 , not all of us would drop to our knees before Harrsion. We aren’t all snivelling little wimps.

  46. Good job, Jimmy. Keep saying you won’t change and watch these suspensions get longer and longer. Or maybe some team with nothing to play for takes a number of shots at your knees. Either way karma does come full circle.

  47. Somebody who is so dumb to not be able to target the player’s numbers instead of his helmet should be given a nice plasma screen and be told that is as close as he will ever be allowed to an NFL game.

    The NFL should let him know right now that his next suspension will be for eight games and the one after that will be for one calendar year.

  48. If you can’t accept the fact that you can/will be hit then play soccer. The hit was clean although the effect on McCoy was very bad, there’s nothing he can do to change it while going through the motion in full speed.

    If this was the last play of the AFC Championship game on the goal line, is Harrison supposed to let him get the throw off/walk in the endzone?

    If this was Ware/Allen/Peppers/your teams defensive star, you’re telling me you wouldn’t defend him in that scenario?

    Get a clue.

  49. People saying that the rules are ruining football. In boxing you cant punch a guy in the nuts, that doesn’t ruin boxing. In football you can’t put the top of your helmet into a guy’s face mask! I know James Harrison makes it look like rocket science but it’s actually a pretty simple concept!

  50. James doesn’t need to change the way he plays to accommodate a commissioner who’s trying a appease Congress and couldn’t care less about the rules of the game … or a bunch of neanderthal jackasses posting racist rants on a blogsite. The way he plays earned him Defensive Player of the Year honors in 2008. And no one has rewritten the rulebook since then. Roger Goodell is the one acting without integrity in this situation. And the guys making the racist comments about the former DPOY being too stupid to play his position are the ones missing a few too many brain chips. James is doing just fine.

  51. I am just wondering who will be designing the dresses for the players to wear – this is FOOTBALL – go look at some old highlights – Ronnie Lott – Jack Tatum – there is a great one of Wilbur Marshall knocking out Joe Ferguson – no flag – no penalty – no suspension – ten times worse than Harrison’s hit. I hate what GOD-L has done to football!!!!!

  52. Harrison hitting a runniing QB in the act of passing legal. Harrison lowering and leading with his head (A.K.A. Spearing) while making contact with an opponent illegal. In game personal foul call … required; post game fine and suspension … warranted by Harrison’s repeat offender status and bizarely defiantly attitude.

  53. Stupid is defined by someone doing the same thing again and again while expecting a different result – Albert Einstein.

  54. Not using profanity… and not saying anything wrong… why do all my posts get removed.

    Goodell must have a veto button to this website….

    Gnata on Ben…
    Browns diving at Bens legs…
    Lewis on Ward…

    All plays are reviewed.. if the NFL lost these tapes I can resend them to be viewed for a first time.

  55. The fact that he was fined for the first time this year in week 14 should tell you that he already has changed his style of play from last year. I think he’s kind of messing with the media at this point.

  56. Was the hit illegal by the current rules? Absolutley. The problem is that there is NO Uniformity with the calls. If that was ray ray he likely wouldn’t have been flagged let alone fined or suspended. If I were Harrison I’d start aiming low. Wipe out some knees, maybe dislocate a hip of an opposing WR. Roger would be happy then. Right?

  57. Mr. Harrison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  58. “It’s clear as day on the replay: Harrison intentionally aimed his helmet at a specific spot. He lined himself up for the tackle, then maneuvered his head into position for a head-leading hit into McCoy’s face.”

    The only thing that’s clear is that you’re watching a replay at about 1/10th its original speed and you’re making assumptions about a player’s intent based on what a guy does in less than a half a second in real time. That is just stupid.

  59. ravenator says:

    “Mr. Harrison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.”

    What was the most insanely idiotic thing you’ve ever heard? Let me guess, Suggs admitting that he and his teammates take out bounties on offensive players?

  60. whodeydaytonchapter says:

    good. more suspensions to come.
    ————————————————

    You really think Goodell is targeting the Steelers and that he can’t turn around tomorrow and find a Bengal to take aim at? You are a fool. That man has NO allegiances to anyone but himself. He cares about nothing but his own PR. He sure as heck doesn’t care about the game. If it’s in his interest to screw with one of your players, he’ll do it. And you won’t be so happy then. God knows you Bengals don’t have that much talent to spare.

  61. So if Harrison won’t change, and he continuously breaks the rules, isn’t the NFL admitting that they don’t care about the safety of players, and that its all about the money they get from fining Harrison when they pay no notice to his admittance to intentionally breaking the rules? If I say, I’m gonna hit thus guy in the head with this golf club, and a policeman heard me say it, wouldn’t he stop me from doing it by taking me out of the situation, instead of letting me bash away, and then handing me a ticket? Kick him out of the NFL if he says he’s going to continually break the rules and put people at risk.

    Hey, I am the always against the owners, and their greed. I am extremely biased towards the players on almost every issue, as I think in simple terms they are largely being pimped…that said, I would respect the NFL if they just told Harrison he can’t come back until he agrees to play by the rules, and if he does it again, its permanent.

  62. james i agree with you,keep playing the way you are suppose to play football.you don’t become a police officer to carry around a bb gun..football is a tough sport,people will get knocked out…next time the Qb will get his a– down…if you don’t want to get hit just slide..

  63. It’s sad to think about- if he played 2o maybe even 10 years ago he’d be considered a great that was feared by QBs. Now he’s being chewed out by fair weather haters on PFT. I mean Ronnie Lott has to be A) laughing at the league currently or B) just totally disgusted on how things are at this point. Dude cut a finger off to keep playing while Cutler sits in the NFC championship game on a sprain.

  64. What a goon; Just imagine if he broke his neck and McCoy’s parents had to wheel around a paralyzed son for the rest of their lives.

  65. Mr. Harrison…. the fact you wear black and gold, fans will hate. Let them hate, thats what playing for the best franchise in sports will bring… hatred. If you played for the Browns, Cardinals, Bengals, Ravens, etc… your hits would go un-noticed. Why? Simply because those teams cannot get it done as the Steelers have 6 times. The game was designed for punishment, keep bringing that punishment to those that cannot handle it. These pansies in the comment threads just hate you due to your jersey color and symbol. Make no mistake about it… they wish you played on their team. Smash more heads Harrison, its why I pay the big bucks to Direct TV. Before you click the thumbs down button, check your man hood… goodell has all you fooled into his mixed bag of bull****.

  66. The problem isn’t merely James Harrison. The problem is the evolution of man. Men are so much bigger, faster and stronger than what they were 30 years ago and will be even more so another 30 years down the road. … Dick Butkus and Jack Lambert wouldn’t be big enough or fast enough to make it as a linebacker in the NFL today – and 30 years from now even James Harrison wouldn’t be big enough and fast enough to play in the NFL of 2041. … At some point in the distant future, the game of football will undergo some drastic changes. If the earth is here 200 years from now, don’t expect the NFL to be anything remotely like it is today. The players are not gonna be able to sustain the hits from a mediocre linebacker who will weigh 350 lbs and run a 4.3 forty. … Do you remember when the Fridge weighed just 300 lbs and Ditka benched him for being too fat? Well the reality is the Fridge would be one of the smallest defensive lineman in the game today – probably easily the smallest on the Chicago team of today. … What I’m saying is the game is gonna slowly disappear and its not gonna be the fault of individual players it will be the fault of the evolution of man.

  67. I hope the arbitrator asks him point blank if this is how he feels, and when he says yes adds a couple more games to his suspension.

  68. stairwayto7 says: Dec 13, 2011 5:07 PM

    Nata breaks Ben’s nose and nothing happens. Harrison hits a RUNNING QB and gets suspended? Keep playing that way and K.O. Rodgers in the Super Bowl!

    ——————————————————
    Why do Steelers fans always bring up the Ravens when they have nothing to do with the subject matter?

    And by the way it’s Ngata.

  69. I think the NFL is going a little crazy. Let these guys play ball the way the games ment to be played.. i mean im 19 years old and played football all through high school and the game is played so fast and off your reactions that when you hit a guy your gust trying to make a play.. as a person who played i think these rules are crazy.. i mean as a football player you know what your signing up for, I think if you asked most players they would disagree with these rules. I feel like most the guys makeing these rules have not stepped on a field.. maybe they should have some kind of player vote to see what their point of view on this is. Not some guys sitting in a office.

  70. And a lot of haters can’t and won’t change the fact that they have no lives. Instead they’ll insult an NFL player but would never say it to his face.

    So many cowards in this world, and unfortunately, most post on this site.

  71. I hope I get the opportunity someday, with about 4 beers in me, to get within earshot of Goodell, he will hear it from me. The things I will say will go something like this.

    FU Goodell, you ruined OUR game, pussified our sport. You do not care about consistency or how your referees are calling stupid ass “touch” penalties every week.
    I hope your ginger ass gets hit by a bus in Pittsburgh with a big pic of James on it.

    To all you pusses talking smack on James, you are stupid, never played football, and probably root for the Pats. Rodney Harrison would be fined heavily if he still played today.

  72. I pretty much agree with ya tluke25. Aside from being physically bigger, today’s football player is in so much better physical condition. The players of years ago pretty much did nothing after their 12 – 14 game season was over. Today, the season ends and it’s to the training rooms for working out til the next season starts.
    I do think Dick Butkus could play in today’s football. He was 6′ 3, about 250lbs and was really gifted. Same with Jim Brown.

  73. Over the past few days, a number of people have commented on how things are changing, and Harrison, et.al are getting the short end of it. I’m old enough to remember seeing Y.A. Tittle kneeling after a game, his bald head bleeding. Those were the days. I suggest that defensive players revert back to the headgear of the good old days (Bronco Nagurski, or even Big Daddy Lipscomb) and let them spear away at the offensive position players with today’s headgear. Let ‘er rip!

  74. Do you know how many players from the ’70’s and ’80’s would be fined and suspended by todays NFL rules and disciplinary system? You wouldn’t be able to field much of a defense and the biggest names from the past certainly wouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame today.
    Men used to be men playing a mans game. Now that game and how it is played is being dictated by college boys in suits who either never were men or forgot what being a man is.
    I have no respect for the suits in the NFL offices.

  75. Some history review here. The rule is to protect the quarterback and “defenseless receivers” not running backs or linebackers or linemen. Just the one behind the center with the dress on. So this is selective safety.

    Is there any history of someone becoming paralyzed from a concussion? Players have been paralyzed before but those are usually hits to the back of the neck. Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach both had several concussions yet they still look pretty healthy to me.

    If you want to see real head shots then watch Superbowl 10 between the Steelers and the Cowboys. The shots delivered by the Cowboys defensive linemen to Terry Bradshaw are what would be defined as intentional. Of course, most of you were an itch in your dad’s pants back then. Which also means you never saw a physical football game in your life.

  76. Its ironic that most people believe its an “either/or” argument. The NFL Players can and do play hard nose football. Some, not all defenders, feel the need to do a “put out” shot on players. They are not attempting to tackle but to deliver that ” ESPN Moment” to gain a higher notoriety. What these morons don’t seem to get is that you can LEGALLY tackle and deliver a blow LEGALLY. I played on several levels of football, but not Pro. I delivered many legal blows from my DE position, and took a few myself. I stopped playing due to concussions… 9 in total!!! I don’t currently have any symptons or concussion syndrome and I’m thankful for that. But you don’t know how many every current NFL player has had and there needs to be a line you don’t cross as a PROFESSIONAL… its a higher standard being a Pro at something… not just simply the ability to play.
    Harrison has great ability but lacks Professional standards. Playing within the rules isn’t as hard as he makes it out to be. He just wants to hurt people regardless of the rules. He needs to be taken care of by his opponents, not the league office. THEN and only then, will he finally understand why the rules were put in place.

  77. Next time make the suspension worth it, hit him harder make sure there is no doubt about your intentions, football is a rough game and if they can’t take it give it up

  78. I’d rather watch the team I love go 0-16 before I watch them become a flagfootball team. He wont change because football is a physical sport. And the hit he did on Colt was a football play not a dirty 1. I’d rather watch them lose playing real football than win playing like these teams 5 wide out every play, cant touch the qb or penalty.. And a defense that avoid contact. That is not football, it is a circus where the defense plays the clown. Passing freely accross the middle without consequence.. pass interference when you go for the ball etc.

  79. rskills,, i did see the video you embedded here. You guys must be crazy if you think that was spearing. Look how Harrison’s arms are positioned. THe intent is to do a form tackle on that hit of Fitzpatrick. His helmet is above his shoulders and unless he does a precision tackle, half the time, your helmet is going to be in that position on such a tackle. As far as the one on Brees, I have seen the likes of Tebow, Vick and Ben get similar hits without a flag. I actually agree there should be a flag on that Brees one, but is it something that should lead to a suspension in the future? I dont think so. Except for the Browns hits and the takedown of Vince Young, I just see a guy who needs some finetuning.

    Does Harrison need an attitude adjustment. Sure. But the league is not helping any by being extra strict on him and letting others go.

  80. sundaysundaysunday says:

    Why do Steelers fans always bring up the Ravens when they have nothing to do with the subject matter?

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    Gee, I don’t know. Why do Ravens fans always bring up baseless rape accusations when they have nothing to do with the subject matter? 🙄

    As for the Ngata hit, we’d like to know why ref Terry McAulay purposely ignored a deliberate head shot to a QB that broke his nose–a shot that was in no way part of a legitimate attempt to bring down a QB. But our linebacker has just been suspended for making a legal tackle on a runner.

    Oh wait … I already know the answer. It’s because the uproar about why the Browns sent McCoy back into that game without appropriate medical attention to a possible concussion might have attracted further scrutiny from Congress. Goodell needed something to take the heat off the League. James was the perfect scapegoat. That’s why.

    But somehow exploring doesn’t seem as interesting to some writers as whining about how the Steelers being close-mouthed when keeping their possibly concussed players off the field.

  81. Maybe some Steelers fan can bring up video of Hines getting hit in the NE last year and compare that to the Ryan Clark hit on theRavensa guy that got flagged and fined. The league claimed Hines was no defenseless despite him having less time and space to catch the ball compared to the ryan clark incident. Yeah, right.

  82. Steeler fans, you should be careful what you wish for, cause a dirty shot on Ben could wake you up to why rules for player saftey are at the heart of this issue!

  83. Keep up the great work James…These idiots on these kind of posts dont and never will understand football…Steeler nation is strong and we support the heck out of you!!!

  84. His suspension without pay just cost him over $200,000.

    Here’s a little perspective. Harrison, you just lost a house.

    A house your Mom could have been quite comfortable in. A house you could have gotten many years of good rental income from after you retire. A friggin’ HOUSE!

  85. “Keep up the great work James…These idiots on these kind of posts dont and never will understand football…Steeler nation is strong and we support the heck out of you!!!”

    * * * * * * *

    Yinzer, get a clue. Stop idolizing a rapist. Stop encouraging headhunting. That’s not being tough its cowardice. Tackle with your shoulder, not the crown of your helmet.

    I think I just got a grade 1 sprain typing this out.

  86. Yes, most Pittsburgh players would hgave been suspended due to steriod use.

    We already know that.

    Stay on topic.

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    jmat40 says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:48 PM
    Do you know how many players from the ’70′s and ’80′s would be fined and suspended by todays NFL rules and disciplinary system?

  87. Wow – so Bathroom Ben and Harrison aren’t the only Pittsburgh tough guys.

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    bensteeler29 says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:33 PM
    I hope I get the opportunity someday, with about 4 beers in me, to get within earshot of Goodell, he will hear it from me. The things I will say will go something like this.

    FU Goodell, you ruined OUR game, pussified our sport. You do not care about consistency or how your referees are calling stupid ass “touch” penalties every week.
    I hope your ginger ass gets hit by a bus in Pittsburgh with a big pic of James on it.

    To all you pusses talking smack on James, you are stupid, never played football, and probably root for the Pats. Rodney Harrison would be fined heavily if he still played today

  88. this guy is a tool. Try and lead with you shoulder and move your head out of the way. It takes a real tough guy to mow throw out cheap shots to a guy half his size. My brother in law is a steelers fan and he even agrees this guys too much.

  89. steeltownpride says: Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM

    Lawrence Taylor , Mean Joe , Ronnie Lott , Dick Butkus , Dexter Manly etc would all be suspended in todays NFL . Hall of famers made famous by killing QB’s and todays players dont do half the stuff the former players do today . Its a shame . Advocate helmet to helmet with ALL PLAYERS but the QB . Either make all helmet to helmet hits illegal . Or make them all legal . Hate double standard rules .
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    He’s more like George Atkinson and Jack Tatum than the players you named. Punks that were out to maim people.

    Helmet to helmet hits are already illegal on all players.

  90. I love our boy Silverback … just love that guy, but jeez man — you aren’t doing yourself, or your team, any favors by playing the openly defiant card.

    All it does is make the microscope even more focused on you, and the unchecked hammer of Goodell heavier. Much heavier.

    Even if you don’t change your game, better to say nothing at all and keep moving than to give a big eff yoo to the Commish. And even better than that would be to serve up some lip-service.

    The next *perceived* infraction will now likely be in the 2-4 game suspension zone — not cool.

  91. steeltownpride says:
    Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM
    Lawrence Taylor , Mean Joe , Ronnie Lott , Dick Butkus , Dexter Manly etc would all be suspended in todays NFL . Hall of famers made famous by killing QB’s and todays players dont do half the stuff the former players do today . Its a shame . Advocate helmet to helmet with ALL PLAYERS but the QB . Either make all helmet to helmet hits illegal . Or make them all legal . Hate double standard rules .

    ==================================

    Hear this a lot on this site. This point assumes that if those players were playing today that they, just like Harrison, would not and “could not” (if that’s actually true) change the way they play and still be good. Does anyone know that’s true?

  92. @stevenfbrackett …

    James’s hit didn’t warrant a suspension, not according to the rulebook. Goodell is abusing his power. It’s what he does best. I’m in favor of protecting players–even from themselves. And I’ve called out James for bad hits. I’ve even called for him to be suspended when it was deserved. This time it wasn’t. That house you’re raving about is being denied a player by an official abusing his power and the player’s rights. Upbraiding the player for it just adds insult to injury … but ignorance abounds on this blog.

  93. goldsteel says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:53 PM
    Some history review here. The rule is to protect
    Is there any history of someone becoming paralyzed from a concussion? Players have been paralyzed before but those are usually hits to the back of the neck. Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach both had several concussions yet they still look pretty healthy to me.

    __________________________
    Aikman has issues, he just refuses to talk about them.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/10/sports/on-pro-football-still-acting-as-a-leader-aikman-departs-on-top.html?scp=2%26sq=troy%2Baikman%2Bconcussion%26st=nyt

    Whether or not concussions pose a problem is a medical issue the League has to figure out, Whether the rule is right or wrong is another question the League has to address as it gather evidence. But Harrison is saying he doesn’t care what the rules are.

  94. Deb,

    It was not a legal hit. It was a deliberate attempt to injure by a repeat offender against a defenseless QB.

    Disappointed, I always thought you were a voice of reason among the blind majority of Steeler trolls.

  95. I hope the Steelers fans telling Harrison not to change feel the same way when, given his attitude and the fact that he keeps making comments attracting both the ire and attention of Roger Goodell, he ends up getting suspended during a playoff push or during the post-season.

    Here’s hoping Frank Gore and the 49ers run roughshod over the Steelers, right over whatever scrub is replacing Harrison and that Pittsburgh ends up losing the game and the division to Baltimore. Maybe Harrison and Steelers fans will care slightly more about not deliberately trying to hit other players in the head if Harrison’s actions end up costing them a first-round bye or a home game.

  96. guess who said the following:

    “Yeah, I heard from the league and like I said they fined me whatever they was going to fine me,” “The thing is you definitely respect them trying to protect player safety. At the same time, it won’t change not one way I play this week no matter what the fine is. You can’t stop playing defense the way defense has always been created to play. When the receiver has the ball, your job is to disengage him from the ball. You never want to hurt nobody. I’ve been in this business too long. I just think once you start getting into these fines I don’t know how they come up with the numbers most of the time.”

    James Harrison?

    WRONG

    RAY LEWIS said it after he hit Hines Ward Helmet to helmet. And just about every other player who was fined has said the same thing, or something very similar. They wont change their style of play. They arent saying they are trying to hurt people but what they are saying is, “The minute you try to change how you play is when you get hurt yourself”

    So why is everyone jumping on what James said? Where was the outrage when Ray Lewis said he will not change his style of play?

    My question is this: Would you rather have someone lie and tell you what you want to hear? You know give the heartfelt “Oh I’m so so sorry, I feel awful about the play” Or be honest and say “Look its football, I’m not trying to hit anyone in the helmet, and i havent had a penalty al year, and have done my best to not hit anyone, but its football, and sometimes helmets hit, so ive got to just keep playing my game, and hopefully it doesnt happen again, but if it does, oh well”

  97. the hit on McCoy was McCoys fault next time the guy nees to be more decisive as to whether or not he wants to run or not, also dont forget that just before impact McCoy tried to duck his head which of course according to the idiots on Park Ave had nothing to do with Harrison smashing his helmet into McCoys facemask. anyone who says the Commish doesnt have it in for the Steelers has his head in his ass. inspite of the ignorance of Goodell they will in all probability make a deep run in the playoffs and ,maybe a rematch with the Packers.

  98. thechosenone6 says:Dec 13, 2011 6:00 PM

    If you can’t accept the fact that you can/will be hit then play soccer. The hit was clean although the effect on McCoy was very bad, there’s nothing he can do to change it while going through the motion in full speed.

    If this was the last play of the AFC Championship game on the goal line, is Harrison supposed to let him get the throw off/walk in the endzone?

    If this was Ware/Allen/Peppers/your teams defensive star, you’re telling me you wouldn’t defend him in that scenario?

    Get a clue.

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    If Harrison does this on the “last” play of the AFC Championship game at the goal line, then it gets flagged, the offence gets another chance, (assuming they didn’t score in the first place), moves closer to the goal line and Harrison gets suspended for the Superbowl, assuming the Steelers hold on to win.

    The hit is not clean; it is clearly against the rules. McCoy was standing up straight and Harrison had a line to him unblocked. Harrison had the option of lowering his shoulder and hitting McCoy hard in the chest, which would have been perfectly legal. Instead, the video shows Harrison lining up his helmet so he can smack McCoy right in the facemask. Penalty, suspension.

    Urlacher, Lewis, Matthews, Mario Williams, Willis can all hit hard and do so without deliberately targeting opponents heads or trying to injure them. As a result, they don’t needlessly extend opponents’ drives, pay hundreds of thousands in cumulative fines or get suspended during playoff pushes at the end of the year.

  99. God, this is such a neanderthal argument. If you like seeing other human beings getting irreparably harmed go watch MMA. The rest of us are sick of seeing the Tyler Palko’s and Curtis Painter’s in prime time.

  100. @nekelund …

    You don’t watch much football, do you? It’s unlikely we’re going to get a first-round bye or home-field advantage even if we win out. And I’m not sure I want a bye. We seem to play better without the time off. We were the first NFL team to win a Super Bowl as the sixth seed.

    And James was out for weeks with a broken eye socket. We did fine. His replacement isn’t a scrub. Whatever happens Sunday night. It won’t be because we lost James. And if it were, Steelers fans wouldn’t blame James because we understand that he was hitting a runner by the book. He can’t be held responsible for Goodell’s showboating. I’ve called out Harrison before when he was in the wrong. This time he’s not.

  101. @buffalodiehard …

    If you guys don’t like the rules, change the rules. The rules say that when the QB takes off running when the freakin’ ball, he’s a runner–even if he tosses it away just before he gets clobbered. The rules don’t bother you clowns when it’s our QB getting slammed in the face and having his nose broken. Noooooo. Then it’s fine and dandy no matter how illegal that hit was.

    Hypocrites.

  102. ekelund says: Dec 13, 2011 10:44 PM

    Urlacher, Lewis, Matthews, Mario Williams, Willis can all hit hard and do so without deliberately targeting opponents heads or trying to injure them. As a result, they don’t needlessly extend opponents’ drives, pay hundreds of thousands in cumulative fines or get suspended during playoff pushes at the end of the year.

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    Ray Lewis was fined in 2009 for an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit on Chad Ochocinco, in 2010 for an illegal helmet-to-helmet his on Austin Collie, and in 2011 for an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit on Hines Ward.

    Because the anti-Steeler media doesn’t point out such things is the reason you are blissfully unaware.

  103. For christ sake, just be quiet til the appeal is over. Harrison is costing us a 1st round bye. The Ravens are going to lose a game but looks like so are the Steelers(49ers). I doubt Ben, Pouncey, Harrison, or Woodley will be playing and Polamalu is questionable also.

    #5 seed here we come

  104. ekelund says: Dec 13, 2011 10:44 PM

    Urlacher, Lewis, Matthews, Mario Williams, Willis can all hit hard and do so without deliberately targeting opponents heads or trying to injure them. As a result, they don’t needlessly extend opponents’ drives, pay hundreds of thousands in cumulative fines or get suspended during playoff pushes at the end of the year.

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    Hmmm… let’s see… also, quick research shows that Urlacher was fined twice in 2010 – $10K for an illegal hit on Visanthe Shiancoe and $5K for an unnecessary roughness/late hit on Stephen Peterman.

  105. @habsman …

    If I thought for a minute James was trying to injure Colt, I’d say so. Did you really get that from the film? He didn’t launch or anything. At most, he dipped his head about an inch. I can see that getting flagged. In this environment, I can even see that getting fined. But a suspension? Colt was running with the ball and dumped it just before the collision. Even he hasn’t said anything about it being a dirty hit. I called out James for the hit on Massaquoi last season–which a lot of people said was legal, but it seemed like too much to me. This one seemed pretty standard. Colt’s a small guy. I don’t think a bigger QB would have been knocked senseless like that.

    James has really good technique. He takes a lot of crap for contact that’s no different than anyone else’s. Some of that’s because of his own BIG mouth. But I can think of many other players–including Steelers–who play a lot closer to the edge than he does.

  106. Good James, dont change the way you play, just keep knocking those chumps out!! Steeler Nation !!!

  107. Thank You James Harrison !!! Thank you for standing up to this B.S… pretty soon the league is going to be suspending players in the near future for any kind of helmet to helmet hits…Harrison I am sure could havee knocked McCoy out cold if he wanted to and was trying to as many people think.. As a Steelers fan… I want you to play as you do and if that means hard on every play as you do and always giving 11o percent, I dont fault you for a hit such as the one you gave to McCoy. A defensless receiver I do agree with coming over the middle of the field or in the air ect… But hit on McCoy is absurd for suspension. As a fan I will take and accept that… but when someone else( Ray Lewis) hit someone the same way ( as he did with Hines and kept him out the whole game and no flag) … I expecct the same then. Will see how fans of other teams then feel when any type of helmet to helmet hit happens. Harrison hasnt had a play of that this year… I dont think anyone can say he does this on every play, nor does any player. I just hope the same outrage will occur and PFT will be sure to cover it with as much class and be in the middle of it when it does.

  108. Let me tell you what this is all about. Money. Period. The NFL knows that no matter how badly they damage the integrity of the game, the hard-core football fans will always watch. These viewers are locked in. The key to bringing in more eyeballs, and thus more money, is to get more casual fans to watch.

    Casual fans do not care about, or appreciate, defense. The casual fan wants to see a 45-44 final score with footballs filling the sky like fireworks on the 4th of July.

    Goodell trumpeting player safety is hogwash. What he really means is offensive skill position player safety. Why is it illegal for a defensive player to lead with the helmet ( and I’m not saying it should be legal, by the way) but it’s perfectly legal for a running back in the open field to lower his head and strike the defensive player with the crown of his helmet? Oh yeah, it’s because it’s the defensive player being speared in this instance and we don’t really care about them.

    As covered many times on this site, chop -blocks are perfectly legal as long as the two offensive blockers involved are next to each other on the offensive line. For example, the center and either guard are allowed to chop-block to their heart’s content. On what planet it is safe for a defensive lineman to be engaged with an offensive lineman and have another offensive lineman dive at his knees? Once again, the league does not care because it’s a defensive player’s health at risk here. Defensive players are an impediment to higher TV ratings and bigger television contracts.

    A defensive player can’t hit a quarterback high. They can’t hit a quarterback low. They can’t land on the quarteback after tackling him. How are you supposed to tackle the quarterback legally while running at full speed without incurring some sort of penalty?

    I don’t have a problem if the NFL wants to promote player safety, what I have a problem with is the fact that they’re only concerned with the safety of players on one side of the ball.

  109. ProFootballTalkSucks says: Dec 13, 2011 6:28 PM

    The only thing that’s clear is that you’re watching a replay at about 1/10th its original speed and you’re making assumptions about a player’s intent based on what a guy does in less than a half a second in real time. That is just stupid.

    Actually, no. I’ve watched it slow and at regular speed. He was sizing up the specific hit the whole way, had him calmly targeted well before the hit. It’s not about “intent”, it’s about watching his physical actions. What’s stupid is to think that such things can’t happen in a split second.

  110. All these guys are all supposed to be supreme athletes. In less than three seconds, a great quarterback can throw on the run to a target moving at sub 4.5 40 time and hit that target in the hands while be chased by 300 pound linemen…This is about control of your body…Harrison is either a very poor athlete or he has a very poor mind. In either case, he really doesn’t belong in the NFL until he learns how to develop both.

  111. caseyanthonymunoz says:
    Dec 13, 2011 4:58 PM
    This is almost as dumb as Rex Ryan guaranteeing a Super Bowl every year.
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    Although not quite as dumb as just another Bungles fan guaranteeing and then celebrating yet one more sub-.500 season. Nice choke last Sunday during Marvin’s “Biggest Game” against a rookie QB (seriously, Yates???), but we all know you got alot more of that left in you.

  112. franknunley57 says:
    Dec 13, 2011 5:26 PM
    Did you know Harrison has restructured his game checks within his contract so as to not lose as much money for being suspended from games. What does that tell you? He knows it’s inevitable. The man is a headhunter out to paralyze someone…or worse. Some team is going to hi/lo this guy.
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    Absolutely right, he really is a headhunter.

    Always leading with his head and putting everything he has into it, the guy is actually trying to injure other players.

    How some people can’t see this, I have no idea.

  113. It’s amazing to me that there are still fans out there (Steelers or otherwise) who still don’t get it. From the peewee leagues to the pros, defensive players are taught to keep their eyes up and see what they hit. There are two reasons for this. First, your more likely to make good contact when you can see your target, and you’re more likely to hit properly rather than drive face first into someone’s head.

    Rather than using proper technique, Harrison puts his eyes down and leads with the top of his head. This improper technique is called spearing, and it has been illegal for years. If Harrison doesn’t think he can change, send him back to his highschool coach for a couple weeks of remedial training.

  114. If he really said this, ban him from the league permanently. Today.

    Why do they keep coddling him? In any other job, what would happen if the CEO of your company said “this is the way we’re doing things” and you told him to kiss your ass? Harrison doesn’t get to decide what the rules are. He gets to decide if he wants to follow them or find another job.

  115. Harrison is a guy with a criminal element. He can keep playing this way, but don’t whine when you get docked paychecks and Sheriff Goodell sends you off to the NFL pokie.

  116. @Deb

    She said it:
    If you guys don’t like the rules, change the rules. The rules say that when the QB takes off running when the freakin’ ball, he’s a runner–even if he tosses it away just before he gets clobbered. The rules don’t bother you clowns when it’s our QB getting slammed in the face and having his nose broken. Noooooo. Then it’s fine and dandy no matter how illegal that hit was.
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    I love you Deb!

    Ben has taken so many hits that would draw a flag on any other QB.
    Heck, Pretty Boy can draw a flag by throwing up both arms and looking at the ref!

  117. Suspend players for throwing punches. Suspend them for spitting at each other. Suspend them for taking performance enhancing drugs.

    Suspending a player for a football play is ridiculous. We have ways to deal with that. They’re called penalties. Ten years from now what are they going to be doing, suspending 2 quarters for facemasks?

  118. I have not read all the comments however, I find Harrison’s remarks to be very immature. He plays for a team and there are league and team rules that he continues to ignore. He is not bigger than the game or the team. What he is doing is putting himself above the team each time he decides to not change his style of play. By receiving another suspension, the team he plays for is suffering without him being there…or are they?

  119. I love how some of the comments make it sound like Harrison is some kind of misunderstood folk hero just trying to make his way through the world. Still others try to paint him as the NFL’s main target for punishment. Well he’s not the only one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Cecil

    And by the way, notice how things ended up for him and you will have some idea why the NFL wants to end helmet to helmet hits. When you look at the NHL and think about the wasted career of Sidney Crosby, sports leagues had better wise up to the fact that athletes are bigger and stronger than ever and they are going to end up footing the bill for some catastrophic lingering injuries if they don’t watch out. Harrison doesn’t care now, but later whe his own brain doesn’t work right, Goodell won’t seem like the bad guy any more.

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