PFT’s Week 17 picks

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It’s here.  The last week of the regular season.  And I have even worse of a chance to catch Rosenthal as the Jets do of making it to the playoffs.

But I can’t give up now.  With a two-game win in Week 16, the game is down to seven games.  We disagree on four this week.  With a sweep, the 11 postseason games could get interesting.

Last week, I finished 10-6.  Rosey was a pathetic 8-8.  For the year, he’s 159-81.  I’m 152-88.

Lions at Packers

Florio’s take:  The Lions should try to beat the Packers, in order to avoid having to go back to New Orleans for the first round of the playoffs.  The Packers should try to beat the Lions, in order to force them to return to the Superdome.  Green Bay remains the better team, as long as they go with their starters.

Florio’s pick:  Packers 34, Lions 24.

Rosenthal’s take: The Packers aren’t likely to play their starters four quarters.  That doesn’t mean this will be a cakewalk for Detroit.  Ask the 2004 Bills about playing a No. 1 seed’s backups.  Or the 2010 Patriots about facing Matt Flynn.  Still, Detroit wants to avoid a trip to New Orleans.  Their defensive line will make the difference.

Rosenthal’s pick: Lions 28, Packers 27.

Titans at Texans

Florio’s take:  Technically, it’s a meaningless game for the Texans.  But with two ugly losses in a row, the AFC South champs need to build some confidence and momentum before the postseason begins.  Though Tennessee still has a shot at the postseason, they’re not ready to beat a quality-yet-flawed team on the road.

Florio’s pick:  Texans 24, Titans 16.

Rosenthal’s take: I believe Gary Kubiak when he says he’ll play this game like any other. The Texans don’t want to hit the playoffs on a three-game losing streak.  T.J. Yates needs his defense and running game to carry him.  They will on Sunday.

Rosenthal’s pick: Texans 21, Titans 17.

Colts at Jaguars

Florio’s take:  If the Colts win, they lose.  If they lose, they win.  So they’ll lose.  And win.  The question, of course, is what they’ll lose.  And what they’ll win.

Florio’s pick:  Jaguars 10, Colts 6.

Rosenthal’s take: The Colts were in this spot in 1997.  They had a random two-game winning streak in late December to put the No. 1 overall pick in jeopardy.  They lost in Minnesota in the season finale, ensuring the top pick and Peyton Manning.  Expect history to repeat.  The Colts haven’t won on the road yet and the Jaguars aren’t lucky enough to lose.

Rosenthal’s pick:  Jaguars 16, Colts 13.

Jets at Dolphins

Florio’s take:  Of all the things that must happen for the Jets to make it to the playoffs, the hardest part could be the business to which the Jets must personally tend — beating the Dolphins in Miami.  Once 0-7, the Dolphins have improved dramatically in the second half of the season.  But the Jets seem to be destined to swipe another playoff berth, which means that the Jets will have to find a way to punch their way out of a corner yet another time.

Florio’s pick:  Jets 20, Dolphins 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The Dolphins are playing well. The Jets are playing lousy, but I’m still convinced Rex Ryan’s lap band is made out of horseshoe particles. Don’t be surprised if the Jets still sneak in the playoffs.

Rosenthal’s pick: Jets 20, Dolphins 17.

Bears at Vikings

Florio’s take:  Last month, the Bears were 7-3 and poised to give the Packers a run for their money in the playoffs.  After injuries to Jay Cutler and Matt Forte, the Bears have lost five in a row.  Though the Vikings also have lost their starting tailback, they’re trying desperately to get a boost as they head into the offseason.  As long as Chris Kluwe doesn’t kick to Devin Hester, the Vikings should be able to give the Bears the boot.

Florio’s pick:  Vikings 27, Bears 20.

Rosenthal’s take: Josh McCown remains at quarterback for the Bears. Toby Gerhart and Kahil Bell will be the primary running backs. I used to think the 18-game season could work, but can you imagine two more weeks like this?

Rosenthal’s pick: Vikings 24, Bears 20.

Bills at Patriots

Florio’s take:  With a win, the Pats lock up the No. 1 seed.  With another huge passing performance, Tom Brady could leapfrog Drew Brees.  One will happen, and the other might.

Florio’s pick:  Patriots 35, Bills 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The way to beat New England:  Hit Tom Brady, keeping Brady guessing by changing up your looks, and play great man-to-man coverage against the Patriots receivers.  The Bills secondary can handle the last part of the equation, but Buffalo’s pass rush is non-existent.

Rosenthal’s pick: Patriots 37, Bills 21.

Panthers at Saints

Florio’s take:  The Saints plan to go “full steam ahead,” and they’ll need every ounce of it to beat the up-and-coming Panthers.  Though it’ll take an epic upset by the Rams over the 49ers to help the Saints improve their playoff positioning, this one is as much about ensuring that Drew Brees will fend off Tom Brady for the all-time single-season passing yardage record.

Florio’s pick:  Saints 42, Panthers 31.

Rosenthal’s take: I first picked the Panthers in this game based on the logic that Sean Payton will pull his starters once he sees the 49ers take a big lead in St. Louis.  And then I remembered the Saints could score 30 in the first half.

Rosenthal’s pick: Saints 40, Panthers 38.

Redskins at Eagles

Florio’s take:  With four straight wins to finish the 2011 season, the Eagles will give themselves a significant boost heading into 2012.  Though neither team technically has anything to play for, the Eagles know the value of creating some doubt as to whether the best team will actually win the Super Bowl; there’s a chance that the best team as of right now won’t be in the playoff field at all.

Florio’s pick:  Eagles 34, Redskins 20.

Rosenthal’s take: The Eagles have saved some jobs with their effort the last three weeks. One more win, and they will finish in second place in the division because of a tiebreaker advantage over Dallas and New York. So that’s pretty exciting. The Redskins have clinched double digit losses for a third straight year.

Rosenthal’s pick: Eagles 26, Redskins 16.

49ers at Rams

Florio’s take:  If this were John Harbaugh’s team, we’d be worried about the Ravens playing down to the Rams’ level.  Then again, the Ravens rolled the Rams in St. Louis earlier this year.  With the No. 2 seed hanging in the balance, the Niners will, too.

Florio’s pick:  49ers 27, Rams 7.

Rosenthal’s take: The Rams aren’t competitive in a league where almost everyone is competitive. Only four of their losses were by less than a 12-point margin. Five losses were by more than 20 points. It’s almost impossible to survive a season like that when it comes in a coach’s third year.

Rosenthal’s pick: 49ers 24, Rams 3.

Seahawks at Cardinals

Florio’s take:  Before Week One, anyone would have assumed that a Week 17 battle between a pair of 7-8 NFC West teams would have involved a home playoff game for the winner.  But with the 49ers at 12-3, it’s one of Sunday’s few meaningless games, except as it relates to draft order.  With Kevin Kolb out, John Skelton has only one more chance to show what he can do.  Until Kolb gets injured again in 2012.

Florio’s pick:  Cardinals 23, Seahawks 20.

Rosenthal’s take: Both the Cardinals and Seahawks have reasons for optimism heading into 2011 after second-half runs that fell short of the playoffs.  Seattle’s success has a better foundation and is based less on lucky finishes.  The Seahawks defense is the best unit in this game.

Rosenthal’s pick: Seahawks 24, Cardinals 17.

Buccaneers at Falcons

Florio’s take:  The Buccaneers have played the Falcons tough in recent years.  But the Bucs currently are in a full-blown free-fall.  Even as they play for their coach’s job, the Bucs are struggling to simply remain competitive.  And if/when the Lions lose to the Packers, the Falcons will have an opportunity to avoid having to go back to New Orleans for the wild-card round.

Florio’s pick:  Falcons 35, Buccaneers 21.

Rosenthal’s take: If the Lions win in Green Bay early, the Falcons will be stuck in the No. 6 seed. That means Chris Redman could make an appearance in this game. And Chris Redman can throw on this Bucs defense.

Rosenthal’s pick: Falcons 30, Buccaneers 21.

Ravens at Bengals

Florio’s take:  The Bengals haven’t been able to take down the big boys in the AFC North.  But they lost by only seven points at Baltimore, and Sunday’s game has high stakes for both teams.  Still, since it’s essentially a playoff game for the Bengals and given that the Bengals are 0-2 in playoff games under Marvin Lewis, the Ravens’ desire to secure the bye and a home game likely will prevail.

Florio’s pick:  Ravens 17, Bengals 16.

Rosenthal’s take: The Ravens can’t beat mediocre competition on the road (San Diego, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Seattle.) The Bengals can’t seem to beat playoff teams. (They’re 0-5 against teams already in the playoffs.) Something has to give here. It’s more likely to include the team with the rookie quarterback.

Rosenthal’s pick: Ravens 21, Bengals 17.

Steelers at Browns

Florio’s take:  With or without Ben Roethlisberger, the Steelers are the better team.  And with the Ravens-Bengals game possibly going down to the wire, any scoreboard-watching by the Steelers will point to maintaining the pedal to the proverbial metal.

Florio’s pick:  Steelers 20, Browns 10.

Rosenthal’s take: The combined record of the three teams that beat Pittsburgh this year: 33-12. The combined record of the Cleveland Browns: 4-11. The Steelers won’t need a lot from Ben Roethlisberger.

Rosenthal’s pick: Steelers 23, Browns 10.

Chiefs at Broncos

Florio’s take:  The Prodigal Son returns to Denver, with Kyle Orton looking to punish the Broncos for their good deed of giving him his freedom.  And if the Chiefs can topple the Broncos and knock them out of the playoffs, it’ll be a long offseason for anyone and everyone who was involved in the decision to let Orton walk away.  If Tim Tebow can save the front office from that fate, maybe he will end up with the starting job, for life.

Florio’s pick:  Broncos 14, Chiefs 13.

Rosenthal’s take: The Chiefs have the personnel to play man coverage on the outside and load up the box to stop Denver’s run game. They also have a quarterback competent enough to score on a suddenly vulnerable secondary. Tebow struggled last week, but it was also alarming to see the Bills offense score on four straight drives of at least 55 yards.

Rosenthal’s pick:  Chiefs 17, Broncos 14.

Chargers at Raiders

Florio’s take:  The Raiders have a shot at their first winning season since 2002, and with a little help a playoff berth.  The Chargers have no shot at saving the skin of Norv Turner.  Reeling after last weekend’s blowout in Detroit, the Chargers could be in for a similar fate in Oakland.

Florio’s pick:  Raiders 27, Chargers 10.

Rosenthal’s take:  San Diego’s no-show last week was the worst game by a team fighting for a playoff spot since . . . San Diego’s no-show in Cincinnati of Week 16 last season. The Raiders finally have their receivers healthy. Deion Sanders would call this a “U-Haul” game for San Diego.  They are ready to go.

Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 33, Chargers 30.

Cowboys at Giants

Florio’s take:  The 256th game of the 2011 regular season also will be the first game of the 2011 postseason.  Since I picked the Cowboys to win the division way back in September, I can’t abandon them now.  Even if logic and common sense points to the Giants finishing their unlikely late-season climb to the postseason.

Florio’s pick:  Cowboys 27, Giants 23.

Rosenthal’s take: They Giants are as dangerous as their pass rush allows. It was great last week, with Justin Tuck finally looking healthy. Osi Umenyiora returns this week. There is no figuring out this Giants team, but I took them to win the NFC East before the year and can’t give up now.

Rosenthal’s pick: Giants 24, Cowboys 21.

61 responses to “PFT’s Week 17 picks

  1. Did you seriously just say the Eagles might be the best team?? Are you kidding they win a few games and they are the “dream team” again. I got a good laugh out of that.

  2. “there’s a chance that the best team as of right now won’t be in the playoff field at all”.

    This has to be a typo. The Eagles are better than the Packers, Saints, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, 49ers, and Lions as of “right now”?

  3. The scenario for the Chiefs/Broncos game is eerily similar to 2009. The Chiefs’ season was already over, and the Broncos desperately needed a win to get into the playoffs. Two Derrick Johnson pick-6’s and 259 rushing yards from Jamaal Charles later, the Mile High crowd was silenced.

    Sadly, someone else has to get those rushing yards this time.

  4. The last line I saw on the Ravens/Bengals game was Ravens favored by 1.5 points. It’ll definitely be a tight game given how well Cinci matches up against us, but given they’re not a bottom-feeder team, that can only bode well for us (which still blows my mind). I’m very cautiously optimistic about the game, so I’m calling a 20-17 win on Sunday, the AFC North title, and a bye in the playoffs.

  5. This whole notion that the only way Detroit will win is if the Pack sit their #1’s is a bit ridiculous…

    Lions are one of the hotter teams in the league right now, the Pack already have some key injuries on the O-Line and with Jennings out.

    I think both teams come out trying to win this week but honestly think Detroit has a better shot against the Pack’s #1’s then most are leading on

    Should be a good one…and for all the “detroit won’t know what to do outside of their comfy dome” folks…

    Detroit is 4-1 outdoors this year, 6-4 in domes

    GO LIONS!!! GO STAFFORD!!!

    hope Staff can show why they got it wrong on the Pro-Bowl this year…not just with Manning but with picking Newton ahead of him as 1st alternate.

  6. @ southpaw2k

    It’s funny you say that you say your cautiously optimistic about the game because I am very optimistic about the game. Bengals have nothing but young talented players that want to make it to the playoffs and they have something to prove to everyone and thenselves this Sunday. I’m expecting a blowout. 34-13. Then again, we wouldn’t be fans if we didn’t think our team wasn’t gonna win…

  7. @suhnami – I’m a Packer fan and I 100% agree. The Lions were very much in the game on Thanksgiving until the wheels came off, and I assume they wouldn’t implode like that again (although in the playoffs that could change – hard to predict how a team will react in the tournament for the first time). The Lions have personnel on D to give the Pack fits: pressure with 4 and play coverage.

  8. cincyhokie says:
    Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM
    “there’s a chance that the best team as of right now won’t be in the playoff field at all”.

    This has to be a typo. The Eagles are better than the Packers, Saints, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, 49ers, and Lions as of “right now”?

    Hey cincyhokie!! You forgot to include the JETS!!!

  9. If the Eagles were the “best team”, they’d be in the playoffs. Hell, if they were even a good team they’d be in. The NFC East wasn’t particularly great this year and they still tanked. Eagles were lousy and don’t deserve to be anywhere near the playoffs.

  10. I don’t think my team is gonna even come close w the Giants this week. Our secondary is terrible, Oline stinks, bad play calling and no running game. Did I mention that we can’t get to Manning? I hope this reverse psychology works.

  11. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says:
    Dec 29, 2011 1:54 PM
    ottograham says: Dec 29, 2011 1:22 PM

    Lets get it Pittsburgh
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    It’s “Let’s”, Son.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Commas go inside of quotation marks, bro.

  12. suhnami says:
    Dec 29, 2011 1:46 PM

    I think both teams come out trying to win this week but honestly think Detroit has a better shot against the Pack’s #1′s then most are leading on

    Sure showed that on Thanksgiving, didn`t they?

    Detroit is 4-1 outdoors this year, 6-4 in domes

    Green Bay is 11-1 outdoors this year , 3-0 in domes.

    If Green Bay rests their starters, mainly Rodgers, Lions can win. Otherwise not, unless of course some cheap shots take out Rodgers.

  13. You won’t see a Ravens fan even near this site come sunday night. Bungles will beat them. They will throw the ball all over that bad secondary of the Ravens. I’m expecting a monster game out of AJ Green. Around 140 yds receiving. They can’t stop him. AFC North champion STEELERS baby…I love the sound of it! Chokemore Ravens. Watch it unfold!

  14. LOL! That helmet looks like it’s too big for Eli’s head.

    EVERY helmet is too big for Sheli’s baby head… even those small Riddell’s you can get for your kids are tooooo big for “deer in the headlights” Manning.

    WE know which brother got the bigger head genes!! BIG BROTHER, BIG HEAD BROTHER!!!

  15. The Raiders choke in big games. It wouldn’t surprise me if they implode due to penalties and SD puts a beat-down on them like they did the Ravens.

  16. Thanks for the letting me know that when the ‘Boys lose they will fall to third in the division when the beagles win – easier schedule and higher draft pick for next year – oh wait – jj does the picking and coaching and ….. nevermind.

  17. bengals3285 says:
    Dec 29, 2011 1:55 PM
    @ southpaw2k

    It’s funny you say that you say your cautiously optimistic about the game because I am very optimistic about the game. Bengals have nothing but young talented players that want to make it to the playoffs and they have something to prove to everyone and thenselves this Sunday. I’m expecting a blowout. 34-13. Then again, we wouldn’t be fans if we didn’t think our team wasn’t gonna win…

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    Hahaha – you’re right, we wouldn’t be fans if we thought our teams would lose! But I don’t think I’ve ever picked the Ravens to break out the whooping stick on an opponent, so when they occasionally do (e.g. Week 1 vs Pitt or Week 14 vs Indy) I call it an extra bonus. So while I’m prepared for another close call, I hope you’re not offended when I say I won’t feel bad if we win 30-9. 😉

  18. xxwhodatxx says:
    Dec 29, 2011 1:26 PM
    Did you seriously just say the Eagles might be the best team?? Are you kidding they win a few games and they are the “dream team” again. I got a good laugh out of that.

    I hear ya…someone has really been hitting the eggnog and Petron LOL I mean come on this team is one Vick hit from being obscure again…they stand a better chance of not having Vick for more than 8 games then winning a Superbowl…I’m willing to bet that Detroit will win a Superbowl before Philly will…

  19. Or the 2010 Patriots about facing Matt Flynn.
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    You could also ask the Lions about playing Matt Flynn to. Just saying.

  20. I think the Lions win over Green Bay on Sunday, but I think that’s primarily because the game means more to us than it does to Green Bay.

    The Lions haven’t won at Lambeau since 1991, and this particular Lions team has been very motivated to end those kinds of ongoing ugly statistics.

    Having said that, I think both teams will also be eyeing this game very carefully. There’s a decent chance they could both be playing each other again at Lambeau in two weeks, in the playoffs.

    And the Saints are winning the Super Bowl.

  21. Note to all Pittsburgh fans:

    Ravens swept your beloved Steelers. End of story. Have fun cheering against a team that quite frankly, the Steelers could not handle. They’ll be lucky to even get a third crack at the Ravens.

  22. hold on a sec MF, just hold on. you pick the jets and say that they’re destined to get into the payoffs…..

    THEN you pick the broncos and the raiders…..which would make it IMPOSSIBLE for the jets to get in. what gives dude???

    the jets need to win their game, a cincy loss, a tenn loss, AND EITHER an oak loss or a den loss to make the playoffs.

  23. The Jests need so much help that it is more likely that a whale will grow wings than everything falling into place for them to get it.

    I hope that Sean Payton’s insistence that the Saints go “all in” doesn’t backfire. I can see Brees getting injured while Payton is trying to statpad Brees above Brady.

  24. Agreed…no one will stop the Saints. New Orleans is about to get its second championship in 3 years. At home, on the road…this team is the real deal! Remember, they have the best road record of any team in the NFL over the past 3 seasons…18-6…look it up! They’re about to shatter the greatest show on turf both in points scored and yardage…Brees just did what no one else could in 27 years…take it to the bank. These dudes are rolling straight to the trophy!

  25. RAVENATOR…You just make sure you’re back on pft sunday after Ravens get handled. Don’t you go hiding like the rest of you Ravens fans do when you lose! I’ll be here to be all over you baltimorons! 2 reasons why you will lose..1. Your bad secondary will get picked apart AJ Green…..2. Joe Flacco..he’s terrible…Steelers are your AFC North champs! AGAIN!

  26. “Eagles know the value of creating some doubt as to whether the best team will actually win the Super Bowl.”

    Seriously ?!? I guess the pundits can never admit their pre-season annointings are ever wrong.

    Hey, maybe you can get Morgan Freeman to narrate “Missing Rings: The 2011 Philadelphia Eagles”.

  27. That’s good jimbo. You just named 2 of 6 total road losses in 3 years! Let’s throw in Seattle for round numbers. Now we’ve named half their road losses out of a total of 24! Now here’s your assignment. Name me their 18 road victories, I can… But I’m the teacher here. Tell me little Jimmy, I’m waiting.

  28. here’s a chance that the best team as of right now won’t be in the playoff field at all

    here late, think of it as pile-on tackle

  29. steelersownyou says:
    Dec 29, 2011 2:18 PM
    You won’t see a Ravens fan even near this site come sunday night. Bungles will beat them. They will throw the ball all over that bad secondary of the Ravens. I’m expecting a monster game out of AJ Green. Around 140 yds receiving. They can’t stop him. AFC North champion STEELERS baby…I love the sound of it! Chokemore Ravens. Watch it unfold!
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    How funny it is that the only straw you have left to grasp is another city’s team beating the ravens because your own team couldn’t seal the deal. You talked about the steelers blowing out the steelers in Pittsburg and then hid for weeks after they swept your team. Coward. Terrible Ravens secondary? They Seemed to do just fine against mike Wallace and Co this year. In fact I seem to remember a certain rookie WR blowing past your secondary to catch the game winning TD. Have fun on the road next weekend.

  30. If there is a football god, both fat slob Ryans will drowning their sorrows in gallons of ice cream on Monday.

  31. “One more win, and they will finish in second place in the division because of a tiebreaker advantage over Dallas and New York. So that’s pretty exciting.”

    Let me pile on one too. It’s actually more absurd the second time I read it.

  32. @rexryanseacrest….funny how that same straw I hang onto is the same straw you hung onto a few monday nights ago when we played the 49ers. Oh I know, act like you werent up all night worried sick..oh wait that’s right ravens fans didn’t care. Flacco didnt watch, you didnt watch… bs..youre just another dumb ravens fan throwing out accusations when you do exactly the same thing! Hypocrite. You just make sure youre back here sunday night after bungles manhandle you! Oh this is gonna be sooooo sweet!

  33. steelersownyou says:
    Dec 19, 2011 6:02 AM
    Get ready 49er fans..we gettin ready to invade candkestick tonight baby. Here comes the steelers fans! Let’s get this party started…#1 seed here we come! Thanks choke sooo hard university!
    ____________________
    Recognize that? That was you before your team choked in San Fran. The San Fran fans challenged you to eat your words but you were nowhere to be found. I actually thought the Steelers would win that night because the Steelers are a good team. I would be stupid to think otherwise.

    Look, even if the Ravens win the Super Bowl this year, you’ll still be on here talking about how the Ravens have 2 trophies and you (as if you’re on the team) have 6 …yap yap yap. So I don’t even know why i waste my time with you. Respect the best rivalry in sports or just go away.

  34. @littleboisestwhodat

    What does the last three years have to do with THIS year? I make a valid point about the Saints losing to Tampa and St louis on the road and you bring up the past three years. And if you want to bring up the past, hows the Saints do in the playoffs against the 7-9 Seahawks last year? Exactly. You wanna call me “little” when Im bringing up FACTS and youre bringing up biased statements. Saints at home are a scary team, no denying that. On the road is another story. So enjoy the no. 3 seed

  35. The Ravens can’t beat mediocre competition on the road (San Diego, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Seattle.) The Bengals can’t seem to beat playoff teams. (They’re 0-5 against teams already in the playoffs.) Something has to give here. It’s more likely to include the team with the rookie quarterback.

    ===================================

    you mean…pro-bowl quarterback

  36. – Cincy only lost by 7 in Baltimore, and that was without their best players on both sides of the ball (AJ Green and Carlos Dunlap), Dalton throwing 3 INT’s, and the “Calvin Johnson” rule wiping a TD off the board.

    – Historically, the Bengals have owned the Ravens in Paul Brown Stadium. 5-1 in last 6 at home against Baltimore

    – Baltimore has been bad on the road this year with losses to Tennessee, Jacksonville, Seattle, and a blowout loss to San Diego.

    – This will be the first actual home field advantage for the Bengals all season.

  37. The Cowboys will lose again. Tony Romo’s throwing hand isn’t fully healed, but it wouldn’t have mattered, anyway!

  38. @rexryanseacrest ….ravens will never get to a super bowl as long as the steelers have big ben & ravens have fluke-o….we are superior & you are the red headed stepchild. In order to respect an opponent, they must win in playoff game. Ravens havent done that. Nor will they ever!

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