Officials didn’t give Lions one last possession

AP

Last night, there were a few questionable officiating decisions.  One of the strangest came at the very end of the game.

At the two-minute warning, the Saints faced second and goal from the Detroit two yard line.  Anyone who ever has tried to milk the final two minutes of a Madden game when the opponent has no time outs knows that it can be done if starting with a first down.  And that it can’t be done if starting with a second down.

But the Saints pulled it off with a second down.

On the first play (i.e., second down), Drew Brees took a knee.  On the second play — a third down — Drew Brees took another knee, with 1:20 on the clock.  On the third play, which was fourth down, Brees took another knee, and the final 38 seconds elapsed.  (The evidence has been preserved via the NFL.com play-by-play.)

It shouldn’t have happened.  The clock should have stopped with 38 seconds remaining on the change of possession.  And the Lions should have had the ball on their own four, with a first down.

The glitch never would have affected the outcome of the game, since the Lions trailed by 17 points at the time.  That said, some in the audience may have been keenly interested in whether the Lions could have cut the final margin to 10.

Or, more accurately, less than 11.

Regardless, it was a fundamental blunder committed by the officials.  The fact that the Lions didn’t contest it doesn’t make it not a mistake.  Detroit should have had the ball one last time, even if the Lions would have simply taken a knee.

93 responses to “Officials didn’t give Lions one last possession

  1. The refs were to busy congratulating themselves for not calling any penalties on the Saints…50 passes and not 1 holding call? Who do they think they are, the Packers?

  2. goblue714 don’t worry, stafford’s left knee was down before he hit the pylon on that one score. so they tried to make up for it.

  3. Wonder why the HC didn’t catch that. He should have been on the sidelines aggressively running/pointing the other way yelling first down like usual. He is worse than I thought.

  4. i didnt stay up to watch the end of the debacle. i did see the whistle on the fumble.

    well, the zebras used to penalize the lions cause they sucked.

    now, the lions play dirty and disrepectfully. and the refs arent going to cut them a bit of slack.

  5. The Saints OL were holding like crazy. The Saints were fortunate to have the officiating crew that called the fewest holding penalties in the league. I hope they will not referee the next game.

  6. The zebra blunder that did cost Detroit big was the Brees “fumble” that was whistled dead. It probably cost them 7 at a critical time in the game. When was the last time you saw a fumble that couldn’t be advanced??? In typical NFL fashion, the zebras blew it again. 7 zebras on the field, 5000 camera angles, and a camera floating around the dome and they still can’t get the calls right. Maybe the No Fun League is making the game too complicated for its own officiating crews! It’s happening again boys and girls…the officials are way too involved in the outcome of these games.

  7. The Lions still had 1 time out left when the Saints started kneeling down. If the Lions were even thinking about trying score score they would have used it after either the 2nd or 3rd down kneel to preserve some time.

  8. The Lions play dirty football all year and want to hide behind the refs?? You got your asses handed to you. Now go home and watch the rest of the playoffs.

  9. The NFL refs have reached the level of NBA refs. It’s been a sad year. I’ve watched less football this year than at any time in the last 10 years.

  10. “The Lions still had 1 time out left when the Saints started kneeling down. If the Lions were even thinking about trying score score they would have used it after either the 2nd or 3rd down kneel to preserve some time.”

    If the Lions had used that last time the Saints would have stopped taking a knee and the score would have been 52-28.

  11. This league will fall to its knees if it doesn’t get a grip on its officiating. Oddly ex-head of officiating mr. Pereira got the hell out of there as fast as he could last year. All these fines every week and making defenses a non factor is a major step in the wrong direction. I miss my hardnose football and its seems to be only a memory now!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Not a fan of either team, so I can say with no emotional involvement that this was one of the worst officiated games I’ve seen. Those refs should be shown the door. Terrible.

  13. The amazing thing is that these playoff officiating crews are among the ones who have received the highest grades for officiating during the regular season. This crew must have been the highest of the lowest. LOL

  14. The Saints, Packers, and Patriots never hold on offense. Until this year, niether did the Colts. Elite QBS do not work behind O-lines that commit penalties.

    Is any true football fan really entertained by these 500+ yard offensive displays?

  15. cballlv11, You said what I was thinking. I really could not care who won, as they are all in the other bracket from my team, but there were some very glaring errors.

    1) The fumble whistled dead.
    2) Brees pushing the ball forward, then pulling it back…that was not a first down (only if he were pushed back would it have been one, or if it had broken the plane for a TD).
    3) There seemed to be some questionable spots, a few in a row.
    4) This was too close to overturn, but I also thought that Stafford’s knee was down before the hitting the pylon…if only by a fraction of an inch.
    5) Some clearly missed holding calls.
    6) And to top it off, the end of the game, they botched the time?? Just wow.

    You can expect refs to make some mistakes, as they are human, but I have to say, I think they made way too many yesterday. Again, I had no horse in that race, so thankfully, I don’t have to care as a fan of one of those teams, but as a general fan of football, it has to be troubling.

  16. PFT needs to do a story about how the clock didn’t stop when the Lions went out of bounds on their last TD drive. It wouldn’t have changed the outcome, but isn’t the clock suppose to stop in the 4th quarter when you go out of bounds???

    Am I missing something?

  17. Official are two busy looking to flag guys for hitting quarterbacks and receivers to notice little details like the game clock.

  18. There you go, blame it on the refs. The Lions had no business in the playoffs anyway. First playoff game in 16 years – HA.

  19. The Lions give up 626 yards & 45 points to the Saints after giving up over 600 yards & 45 points a week ago to the Pack but yet somehow ….. rule changes, bad refs & Goodall are to blame for the losses …..

    Lion Fans …… The problem is your team isn’t quite ready for primetime ……. Quit cry’in the blues …… No one’s listening …….

  20. first playoff game in TWELVE years.

    they lost to the skins 27-13 after the 1999 season.

  21. The Zebra-es have a job to do they follow order we all could see the saints holding lineman trying to run to the play can’t move lock down how can a person run out of a vice.

  22. the ref blew the whistle because he thought it was an incomplete pass, because the whistle was blown the saints didn’t try to recover the fumble or chase the lion who recovered it, it is a big assumption the lions would have ran it back for a td without the whistle

  23. Look, there were quite a few calls that were anywhere from questionable to awful. All went for the Saints. Even the 15 yarder in the endzone for hands to the face was ridiculous.

    That being said, officials or not, the Lions did not play well enough to win. If you want to compete at this level, you’ve got to realize that you’ve gotta be better than the Saints AND a few blown calls. It’s funny how in this league once you play well enough to overcome bad calls you tend to see less of them.

    Basically, worry about yourself and getting better, then the refs, wins, and glory will follow.

  24. It would not have mattered in this game but goes to show more and more the officials of the NFL in fams minds have gone backwards. The fumble whistle could have cost one team the game. Some of the calls made in one game and nort others cost teams games. This rule on unprotected players is going to cost teams games. I know player safety, that IS the CATCH all, that God-del and his henchman fall back on. College football is more like football than the NFL.

  25. The Lions fans need to join the Whiners Club set up by the Falcon fans. You have met the criteria of being BEAT TWICE by the SAINTS, …. and continue to whine about the Refs and lament woulda, coulda, shoulda.

    Seems to me I didn’t see and Holding calls on the Lions O Line. The Refs must have held both teams to the same standard, maybe. Guess I missed the announcement of the Detriot linemen in the Pro Bowl …. since THEY don’t hold.

    As far as the whistle blowing on the fumble, …. yea, I heard it too. Guess the Saints players heard it as well. Wonder why they didn’t pursue the ball? BUT, …. if you want your points and 38 seconds on the clock, fine!

    Final Score, Saints 52- 35. Feel better?!
    Lion Fan …. act like you have been to the Playoffs before and acknowlege a Loss. The Saints did in their beatdown by the Seahawks last year.

  26. Not a Lions fan, but it is pretty clear they got jobbed in a pretty close game for three and a half quarters.

    The lack of a single holding penalty for a team that ran almost 70 plays is pretty incredible (especially when the Lions were getting the Saints to third down pretty often). One or two in the second half could have dramatically changed the game.

    The inadvertent whistle was obviously a huge blown call, and likely cost the Lions 7 points, which would have made the game 21-7 and likely would have prevented the Saints taking the lead on the first possession of the second half.

    Finally, the Drew Brees reach and retraction of the football on 4th down at the Saints own 39 could have been the call that changed the game. Not sure the Saints would otherwise have been short, BUT it should have been a lot closer. And, if it had been, the Lions would have gotten the ball down by three on the Saints 39. Instead Lions got the ball back down 10.

    Therefore, while the Saints played great and have a great chance at the Super Bowl, I don’t think it is crazy (as many people seem to) that the Lions could have pulled the upset last night on an even playing field.

  27. Even with the refs taking tds from the saints and giving phantom tds to stafford. phantom fumbles the saints still murderized ’em.I would say I’m sorry, but , for now I’ll say go home and watch the rest of the playoffs from home. Dont worry the fortwhiners are the next victims

  28. “Officials didn’t give Lions one last possession”

    Lions had a time out left and didn’t call it.

    They knew the game was over.

    Why expose players to unnecessary injury? To entertain gamblers?

    If you bet against the spread in this game you are a fool and an idiot!

  29. I find it truely amazing that all these saints fans act like they have been on top of the NFL for decades. Your brains must be water logged still from the floods. Saints are a great team yes. Officials absolutely are horrible and Lions have some more pieces to put in place. With that said all you fools that want to run your mouth about a childish coach or dirty players, you just keep showing that you have never played the game and have no clue about the emotions and Passion involved in the game of football…

  30. Why is it that every Lions loss is the worst officiated game the Lions fans have ever seen?

    For 2 weeks in a row they get torched for 45 and 600 yards and they whine about the refs. Face it, there defense just isn’t that good when they have to play between the whistles and not after the whiste.

  31. As a lifelong Lions fan, I have had my ups and downs, I have herd the back talk, the ridicule, and I always defend my team, players, and city, like any true fan. I try to stay away from the “bandwagon” fans, and of course the idiots that dont know anything about the game. Lowlife, pathetic losers like the idiot “adirtyplayernamedsue”. I laugh at this childs poor attempt to show his way below average IQ. Most importantly I stay away from the ref talk, but this time I just cant. Does anyone besides me notice that after halftime, in big games, and not just Lions games, the refs start to get way to involved in the outcome of these games? Yes I agree, the clock blunder wouldnt of changed the outcome of the game, but the blatent missed calls, no calls, and phantom calls all second half, did change the outcome of the game. I know they want to make the game interesting for T.V., but controling the outcome of a game so blatently is sick. Everyone is talking about cetrtain things, but no one has mentioned that TD catch for the Saints, not 5ft from the ref, that was clearly not a catch. The ref was more worried about calling a foul on the Det defender, for putting his hand on the recievers helmet (not facemask). Luckly, the replay showed that the ref is a complete idiot.

  32. The lions aren’t the only NFL team that plays dirty; they all do. The lions just haven’t learned how to get away with it.

  33. I had a question on the QB sneak by Brees on 4th down in the first half. He jumped over the line pushing the ball beyond the 1st down line but then he fell back and rolled back and then was touched. How was this not different from a WR catching a ball beyond the 1st down line and running backwards? Brees was treated as breaking the plain but this was not on the goal line? Did anyone else notice this?

  34. As an official, they have a duty to “get it right”, just like every one of you guys have a duty, at your job, to “get it right”. Dont give me this BS that it wouldn’t have changed anything. The problem the NFL has that EVERY one of their officials are confused about the IGNORANT and constant RULE CHANGES! How in the H3LL can you have every official interpreting the rules differently and calling games differently?

    Point in case … You have a sack fumble, picked up by the defense, who has a CLEAR lane to the endzone and they blow the whistle. The week prior, TERRIBLE officating causes the Lions to use ALL of their challenges on HORRIBLE calls that LOOKED like fumbles, Pack scoops it up … NO WHISTLE …. The game has become TOO fast for the Senior Citizens in zeebra costumes … Its funny how NCAA has everything figured out and the NFL cant figure a DAMN thing out …

    Goodell for the NFL is like Betman for the NHL .. Both are MORONS!

  35. I hate it when refs make bad calls. Without the early whistle, the Lions score a touchdown. But, the early whistle was BEFORE the Lions recovered the ball. So the refs made another mistake by giving the ball to the Lions. Isn’t the play is dead when the whistle blows? As for the bad spot on 3rd down, if Detriot would have thrown the red flag NO is punting instead of scoring on that drive. That mistake is on the Lions.

  36. I could be wrong but I thought I saw a couple of times when a player went out of bounds and the clock kept running.

    One was when Kevin Jones was run out of bounds and the clock kept running and I think the next play was a score. Am I crazy?

  37. Saints have multiple pro bowl linemen, so they get away with holding all day. If the Lions had an elite pass rusher, they may have gotten a call. Holding or not, that was a poor display of tackling by the Lions.

  38. Once again showing that numerous players and coaches being paid millions of dollars to be a “professional” don’t even know the rules of the game.

    Shame on the entire Lions coaching staff and all the players. Not one of them knows the rules well enough to notice a basic mistake from the refs like that.

    Also showing once again how horribly incompetent the NFL refs are. If I did my job as “well” as the refs did last night, I would not be employed.

    Must be nice to be paid like this and not even have to know all the rules under which your job depends on knowing.

  39. As a NFL fan in general I hope this gets sorted out. The Refs have to call honest fair games.

    When I was a kid NBA was huge now nobody I know watches anymore. What happened? Exactly whats happening here in the NFL.

    That being said the Lions defense looked weak and we probably would have lost anyway. Good luck Saints the rest of the way and we will see you guys next year.

  40. THE OFFICIALS HAVE SPOKEN they choose the saints and packers nfc championship game as if we didnt already know why bother playn the games just have the four best i.e. favorite teams have one “game” playoff then the s.b. its a joke what these “officials” get away with cause its detroit nobody cares right but if it was the steelers or the pats or the packers or the saints everybody would be up in arms so why not just have pit,la,gb,ne in a one game playoff and be done what a joke its all turning into the arena league or college all where bowl bids are givin not earned

  41. The refs blew calls. That is a fact. Has nothing to do with Lion fans being sore losers or not. The refs blew several calls, that is a fact. Had they not blown them would the Lions have won? Who knows. But we do know that the refs blew several calls and the Lions lost. I sure would have like to have seen what would have happened had they not blown those calls.

    Forget about what team you’re a fan of for a few moments and look at this as a FOOTBALL fan. How many times this year and last have you heard of or seen the refs blown calls that were detrimental to the Lions? WAY more than any other team! It’s not the Lion fans that bring this to your attention now is it? No, it’s the media. Why is that? Are they all closet Lion fans? No, they bring it to your attention because it happens and they can see that something is wrong here. Collinsworth was even calling the refs out on this last night during the broadcast! Some of these ref blunders have been outrageous. Would the Lions have won the SB with better reffing? I doubt it, but who the heck knows. It would be nice to have seen them get at least a fair shot at competing for that title!

    I am happy that the rest of the football world has had a chance to see and debate this issue that the Lions have been facing for years. With the Lions now being one of the top teams in the league they will be getting more and more prime time exposure. Maybe that will help limit the blown calls.

  42. Booo boooo booo who. This is the first time in NFL playoff history that any team has scored 5 straight second half touchdowns in NFL history. Ok so, you are saying that the Lions would have won the game??? The curse still lives and you know who is laughing.

  43. @boothlustig says:
    Jan 8, 2012 11:20 AM
    “I had a question on the QB sneak by Brees on 4th down in the first half. He jumped over the line pushing the ball beyond the 1st down line but then he fell back and rolled back and then was touched.”

    This was a typical forward progress call, He was touched by several Lions as he jumped forward. And like a receiver was drove back by the pile. I think this call is a given.

  44. The officials cost the Lions 7 points by blowing the fumble recovery dead before the Lions player could run it back for a TD. Disgraceful. They should be fired because it was obvious, it was a huge difference maker, and it was a play off game. That TD would have changed the entire balance of the game. The Lions got totally screwed on that.

  45. I want to echo the comment from

    noeffinway says: Jan 8, 2012 11:38 AM

    Refs blew a number of calls… all seemingly to favor the Ain’ts…

    but did they change the final outcome… we will never know.

  46. steelerhypocrite says:Jan 8, 2012 9:22 AM

    The refs were to busy congratulating themselves for not calling any penalties on the Saints…50 passes and not 1 holding call? Who do they think they are, the Packers?

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    Do you post this same crap on every Saints related post? Three Saints stories and here you are with the same exact comment on all three. I guess it saves time to copy and paste, rather than have three original thoughts

  47. The refs did a horrible job in this game. And they were clearly on the saints side. Im not a lions fan either making excuses. There was a horrible spot as well in favor of the saints.

  48. I agree that many of the calls were BS and I think that the officials let bias play a part in their decision making…..not “bias” in the sense that they like one team more than the other; rather, they don’t expect to see holding from the Saints line, so they aren’t looking for it. It’s a problem.

    Anyone who thinks that the officials blew the game for Detroit obviously doesn’t realize how destructive Staffords interceptions were.

  49. Schwartz called a timeout prior to the 2 minute warning as well and then when it looked like the Saints were going to score another TD, he seemingly backed off…. and so Peyton decided to take a knee. It was almost a gentlemen’s agreement there at the end. As an unbiased fan, the referees were clearly behind the Saints. Not every call went the Saints way, but I’d say 90% to make it look “credible”… We’ll see how many calls go the Saints way in San Fran.. that’ll be interesting.

  50. The only saints player within 10 yards of that fumble DID go for it and failed!! TD detroit and up 21-7!! And then the ref in the endzone so worried about the “poor defense-less receiver” that he failed to watch him drop the f-ing pass two feet in front of him!! WOW!! FIRED!!

  51. I just wanted to emphasize one comment up above (tommytd, take a bow): “Maybe the No Fun League is making the game too complicated for its own officiating crews! ”

    That is, to me, the biggest problem the NFL has.

    The rulebook has grown so complex, and so confused, that no referee can possibly keep track of all the subtleties.

    The NFL Competition Committee ought to be looking at streamlining the rulebook. Eliminate redundancies, contradictions, and rules that can only be enforced with frame-by-frame analysis of multiple replays. Put the game back in the players’ hands.

    While they’re at it, they can rework the rules to ensure that there won’t be a blocking-in-the-back penalty on every kick return and offenses won’t have the ability to throw a long ball knowing they’ll either get a completion or a pass interference penalty (the guaranteed long-gainer is a driver of the insane offensive numbers we’ve been seeing in recent years).

    Oh, and consider making the refs full-time NFL employees with proper in-season evaluation and off-season workout/training routines. It’s still sad to see bank vice-presidents and college professors moonlighting part time to officiate the most popular sport in America. Cut Goodell’s salary a little and use the money to show the officials some respect.

  52. I can’t imagine that anyone is truly as dumb as these referee teams seem to be. The ones that call the playoffs and Super Bowl are supposed to be the cream of the officiating crop, aren’t they? Aren’t we as fans and the teams that succeed through the season to win the right to get to the top supposed to be assured that we’re all getting the BEST that the league has to offer?

    You’re all going to call me a foil hat-wearing noob, but we’re foolish if we don’t think the refs see and understand the point spreads issued by the Las Vegas experts. I assume that there are rules against the refs betting or profiting from outcomes of the games, but millions change hands every week on these games, more on the bigger ones. Refs, like corporations, are people, too.

  53. It really doesn’t matter about the officiating calls. The simple fact is that the Lions couldn’t stop the Saints from scoring every time they had the ball. The only way the Saints were stopped was when they stopped themselves, with fumbles.

  54. I had the line teased to Lions +17.5, so I was just thrilled that Payton and Schwartz had some agreement for the Saints not to run it up by scoring there. 😉

  55. briank1ne says: Jan 8, 2012 12:00 PM

    The refs did a horrible job in this game. And they were clearly on the saints side. Im not a lions fan either making excuses. There was a horrible spot as well in favor of the saints.

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    ok giving stafford a td when his knee is clearly on the turf, disallowing colstons 1st half td. the refs were clearly on the saints side….your honolulu blue slip is showing

  56. While I would agree that the officiating this year has been a complete joke and that there were a couple questionable calls in this game, the key words in the above article are “The glitch never would have affected the outcome of the game, since the Lions trailed by 17 points at the time.”

    Sorry, Lions fans, but I don’t feel bad. I always rooted for the Lions as underdogs, but when I saw how obnoxious and chest-beating their fanbase became over one good year, I couldn’t wait for them to be exposed.

  57. backindasaddle says: Jan 8, 2012 11:54 AM

    The officials cost the Lions 7 points by blowing the fumble recovery dead before the Lions player could run it back for a TD. Disgraceful. They should be fired because it was obvious, it was a huge difference maker, and it was a play off game. That TD would have changed the entire balance of the game. The Lions got totally screwed on that.
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    Ummm ya think had the whistle not blown the ENTIRE Saints offense would have stopped and simply allowed him to run uncontested to the end zone??? Hell, U think there would not have been an attempt by the Saints to even RECOVER the ball??? But keep blaming the refs if it makes you feel better. Wasn’t Detroit one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, yet NO holding calls were called against them as well??? Go back and cry in the car…

  58. scomibord says: Jan 8, 2012 11:13 AM

    Even with the refs taking tds from the saints and giving phantom tds to stafford. phantom fumbles the saints still murderized ‘em.I would say I’m sorry, but , for now I’ll say go home and watch the rest of the playoffs from home. Dont worry the fortwhiners are the next victims What ever you say i hope you still have your pre Drew Brees brown bag like you saw every other saints fan wearing before 2006 i am looking forward to the saints trying to run up the score away from their crap dome against a real defense. i have lost all respect for malcolm in the middle (sean peyton) and his juicy fruit chewin run up the score when they are already winnin (falcon game) ass

  59. To defend the bad officiating by saying it doesn’t matter because the Lions couldn’t stop the Saints anyway, is idiotic! That makes absolutely no sense at all! With that logic I guess the refs should determine the better team early in the game so that they can just swallow their whistles for the rest of the game?

  60. Argue all you want. The fact remains that the Lions have been the victim of bad officiating the entire season and then some. Why is it always the Lions games that get the attention of the media when it comes to bad calls? That’s easy – because the Lions are always getting hosed by the bad calls! You can argue all you want but facts are facts! The refs blow more calls that are detrimental to the Lions than any other team in the league. Would the Lions have won this game without the officiating debacle? Would they have beat the pack last week without the officiating debacle? Well, unfortunately we will never know now will we? Why is that? Because the refs took that opportunity away!

  61. The Brees fumble was a problem a few years ago where the refs were quick with the whistle and blew a call. Then they went to letting the play go and holding off blowing a whistle. Now they are back to the quick whistle again. I agree it changed the game because they Lions would have been up 21-7 and it changes how you call the game. There were also bad non-holding calls and bad spotting of the football. The commentators even commented how the score was dictating how the defenses were calling plays. This was a bad job by the refs, but the way the Lions were tackling and being run on, I think they still would have lost the game!

  62. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 8, 2012 11:31 AM

    Once again showing that numerous players and coaches being paid millions of dollars to be a “professional” don’t even know the rules of the game.

    Shame on the entire Lions coaching staff and all the players. Not one of them knows the rules well enough to notice a basic mistake from the refs like that.

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    How is it Schwartz’s fault? You can lay a lot at his feet but I don’t think that’s one of them. Especially after the way he got jobbed on both his challenges last week at Green Bay, the dude learned that you save the challenges for when you absolutely need them, like on TDs. Otherwise you run the risk of stopping a 4th down conversion but having to let a bad TD stand later in the game, or a turnover not get reviewed.

    The guy acknowledged after the game last night that it was awful. I just don’t know what you expect him to do about it in that situation except deal with it and try to coach around it.

  63. You mental midgets that say that schwartz should have complained about the refs letting the clock run at the end of the game instead of giving the Lions one more possession are the same idiots that would be calling schwartz a whinner had he complained. smh

  64. ACTUALLY the lions were called for a holding penalty!! they called a piss poor ticky tack on cherilous when we completed a pass to burhleson, it was an aweful call. nowhere near the hold that was put on cory williams when sproles had that 20yd td run.

  65. I noticed that! With blowing the whistle on the Brees fumble and not giving them a last possession, Vegas has got to be up in arms.

  66. Once again, the Lions had opportunities taken away by poor officiating, but they missed plenty of opportunities on their own. Aaron Berry dropped two interceptions in the red zone and Eric Wright dropped a pick six early in the second half. Jim Schwartz dropped the ball by not challenging the ball spot when the officials gift wrapped a first down for the Saints. The Lions consistently put the Saints into obvious passing downs in the second half, only to let Pierre Thomas cut 2nd and 12s into 3rd and 2s over and over again with poor tackling. Mix in a couple blown coverages and you have yourself a 45-28 loss to the Saints.

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    That’s the assessment of the “Definitive Lions Blog” regarding yesterday’s game.

    Were calls missed? Mos’ def. But bad zebra-play did not make the Lions D-backs drop picks or render the entire Lions D incapable of tackling. Every team faces bad calls. Face it, Lions homers. The game is played between the lines. If your teams plays well enough, it doesn’t matter what the zebra do. The Lions had a great season. Stafford is a really good young QB. Megatron is a total beast who is almost unstoppable. Their defensive front four are truly a force to be reckoned with. With a few more pieces, they will give the Packers (media-anointed Demi-Gods of the NFL) a run for their money for many years to come in the NFC North. Those props are from a life-long Saints fan. But seriously, Lions fans, stop whining about the officiating and accept the fact that at least yesterday your team was outplayed.

    Oh, and to the rest of you miscellaneous Saints haters out there, F all of you. I can’t even tell from most of your lame handles who your team is. Probably drafting early in April.

    We’re back.

    Signed,
    WHO DAT NATION

  67. Scientific fact: If you makes excuses based on officiating, whether you are right or wrong, you will come across as a crybaby 100% of the time.

  68. Are the Lions fans who are writing about the outcome of the game they lost to The Saints the same bunch of clowns who complained about the Vikings losing two years ago?

    I thought so……..

  69. Quit your crying Lions fans. The officiating last night was nothing compared to what you see every week in Raider games.

  70. I thought the whole idea with instant replay is that it let the officials err on the side of caution. Let the plays happen and THEN review them. That’s why I didn’t mind that stupidly obvious non-TD by the Saints at the end of the first half. It probably wasn’t a TD but since all plays are reviewed, why not call it and get the RIGHT call? That’s the whole idea.

  71. The problem with this article is the comparison of a game of Madden with an actual pro football game. In the real world after a running play, such as taking a knee, the game clock runs but the play clock doesn’t start until the ball is spotted. There is usually a few second lag as compared to say a video game, which spots the ball the instant the player is tackled, so the game and play clocks sync up perfectly.

  72. This was so tilted in NO favor, brought Tim Donaghy to mind–even if the refs weren’t on the take, they should all be fired. NO probably still would have won, but it would have been closer and who knows…

  73. The glaring mistake I noticed was the hands to the face by Spivey. They show the replay from both angles. I dont argue the call but the who called it. The ref who made the call could not see the hand of Spivey from his angle on the play. But the ball on the ground directly in front of his nose went missed. He was looking and even as the ball was on the ground he raised his hands for a TD.

    Now I dont want to tread to deep here. Goodell may even find ways to fine fans for critisizing his arbiter staff of wayword officials. But the trend against the Lions is certainley not just a Lions thing. There are certainly many teams who could complain about the same treatment. But stealing 3 games last year from the Lions. Chi, Chi, NYJ. And the last two this year being the worst officiated games I have seen in a while. I do begin to see that big market and small market teams are going to have a major separation in Playoff and SuperBowl achievments. Controlled by the only people who can control it. The refs.

  74. DJ E.F. Cuttin says:

    backindasaddle says: Jan 8, 2012 11:54 AM

    The officials cost the Lions 7 points by blowing the fumble recovery dead before the Lions player could run it back for a TD. Disgraceful. They should be fired because it was obvious, it was a huge difference maker, and it was a play off game. That TD would have changed the entire balance of the game. The Lions got totally screwed on that.
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    Ummm ya think had the whistle not blown the ENTIRE Saints offense would have stopped and simply allowed him to run uncontested to the end zone??? Hell, U think there would not have been an attempt by the Saints to even RECOVER the ball??? But keep blaming the refs if it makes you feel better. Wasn’t Detroit one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, yet NO holding calls were called against them as well??? Go back and cry in the car…

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    The Lion linebacker that recovered the ball had a clear and open path to the end zone. He would have score easily. Their were no Saints in the vicinity when he recovered it and there were no Saints in a position to catch him. He was already on his way and it was obvious that he would have been able to run it back for a TD. Furthermore, I’m not a fan of Detroit and have no axe to grind. I’m just an unbiased football fan who watched the game and saw a blatant mistake by the officials that clearly cost the Lions a TD. I did not say that the Lions would have won because of it…. but it would have changed the balance and dynamics of the game at that point. I still think the Saints outplayed them for the balance of the game and deserved to win anyway. But THAT call was a disgrace and it DID cost the Lions a TD.

  75. woodyg says:
    Jan 8, 2012 10:36 AM
    The Lions give up 626 yards & 45 points to the Saints after giving up over 600 yards & 45 points a week ago to the Pack but yet somehow ….. rule changes, bad refs & Goodall are to blame for the losses …..

    Lion Fans …… The problem is your team isn’t quite ready for primetime ……. Quit cry’in the blues …… No one’s listening …….
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    1st off WoodyG is the biggest lions hater on PFT.
    He/she predicted 4-10, then 6-10, then 8-8 for the Lions season this year! So, for one he/she is lame.

    2nd, I am proud of my Lions, they made more progress. Since going 2-14 in 2009, they have added 4 wins each year of the past 2 seasons going from 6-10 to 10-6. They also came through and clinched their own playoff birth.

    3rd, as we have nothing to feel bad about, I am not whinning! Things happen to the Lions that are Not in their control, but that’s life in the NFL.

    4th, people like Woodyg may not want to except this, but the Lions are building a Franchise to contend with/be the best in the league. They will be around for some time to come and that scares them.

    That’s my 4 downs, but I will end with this:
    Congrats to the Saints and their fans. One classy thing overlooked is the fact that the Saints organization reserved an empty seat in the press box for longtime Lions writer Tom Kowalski. May he rest in peace. He would have loved to have been there seeing the Lions take a big step forward by going toe to toe (at least for 3 qtrs) with one of the best teams to ever play the game!

    Go Lions, and fans hang your heads high, People hate us because we are finally good.

  76. 2) Brees pushing the ball forward, then pulling it back…that was not a first down (only if he were pushed back would it have been one, or if it had broken the plane for a TD)…..

    ….The officials cost the Lions 7 points by blowing the fumble recovery dead before the Lions player could run it back for a TD.
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    Learn the rules people. The fourth down reach by Brees is a little something we call “forward progress.” And the “inadvertent whistle”by the ref could (and probably should) actually have returned the ball to the Saints and NOT resulted in the Lions recovery at all, because the whistle blew the play dead BEFORE the recovery.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-wild-card-saturday-referee-review-houston-texans-cincinnati-bengals-new-orleans-saints-detroit-lions-010712

  77. musicman495 says: Jan 9, 2012 5:17 AM

    2) Brees pushing the ball forward, then pulling it back…that was not a first down (only if he were pushed back would it have been one, or if it had broken the plane for a TD)…..

    ….The officials cost the Lions 7 points by blowing the fumble recovery dead before the Lions player could run it back for a TD.
    —————————–
    Learn the rules people. The fourth down reach by Brees is a little something we call “forward progress.” And the “inadvertent whistle”by the ref could (and probably should) actually have returned the ball to the Saints and NOT resulted in the Lions recovery at all, because the whistle blew the play dead BEFORE the recovery.

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    How about you learn the rules. Forward progress doesn’t count if the player, under their own accord, move the ball backwards before the whistle, which Brees did. He was untouched by the Lions, then pulled the ball back to keep from fumbling, then the whistle blew. Had he been hit as he reached the ball out then yes, you give forward progress. Idiots.

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