Mayock breaks down draft’s top two QBs

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 21, 2012, 5:59 PM EST

NFL Network and NBC’s Mike Mayock appeared on PFT Live Tuesday to talk about the draft.

In the clip below, he breaks down the difference between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III.  Luck may be the “safe” pick, but there isn’t a lot separating these two.

This is one of those videos that doesn’t really need any more introduction. If you don’t like Mayock’s draft analysis, I don’t have any bloody use for you.

For Mayock’s entire interview, go to the show’s homepage or you can download the show on iTunes.

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23 responses to “Mayock breaks down draft’s top two QBs”

  2. Does anyone really believe timmie t is the answer in denver ? Cam newton had a great year in 2011 how will he do in 2012 ? I would not put my money on the play offs , ever !

  4. Luck has bigger size and is likely to be more durable. RG III is a better athlete, but will have an increased injury risk over Luck. Alas, the safer pick.

  5. Considering Mayock was extremely high on Jimmy Clausen and Blaine Gabbert, Cam Newton would be a colossal bust, and Andy Dalton was a huge reach anywhere ahead of the 3rd-4th rd……. I think I will ignore what he has to say about the QB position. I would take Luck in a heartbeat, and RG3 wouldn’t be far behind. Tannehill however will be a complete joke and Mayock is just as high on him as he was on Gabbert and Clausen. A .500 QB with a 60% completion rate that drops 8-10% on AVG in the NFL is supposed to be a future all-pro QB? no thanks

  7. RG3 might just be drafted ahead of Luck if Luck shows up at the combine looking like a deranged Amish farmer.

    Maybe Gillette can sponsor him.

  8. These two came into college in the same class with Blaine Gabbert and Terrelle Pryor. Gabbert was the best pro style QB, Pryor the best dual threat. All four are about the same age, give or take a few months. Nothing has changed. Four years later, Gabbert is still the best pro style QB of the four, and Pryor is still the best dual threat QB of the four. Mayock just swings with the breeze, he has no deep faith in his own intuitions.

  9. Nick Foles is going to be the “Andy Dalton” of the 2012 NFL Draft. Nearly a 70% completion rate on a mediocre team, nearly 8 yards per attempt, 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio, behind a weak OL that allowed 23 sacks. That’s the kind of guy that will thrive with a team that takes him in draft and gives him the time to develop like Aaron Rodgers was allowed to behind an established starter.

  10. In the right situation, Kellen Moore’s 2 inches won’t matter. He could be the Tom Bradyesque sleeper in this draft.

  12. slobberknockered says:
    Feb 21, 2012 6:50 PM
    Hmmmm, I wonder what makes Andrew Luck “more safe” vs. Robert Griffin III? Hmmmmm, I wonder?
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    As a guy who has been a fan of RG3 since he signed with Baylor (of whom I am a fan … what can I say, I am Baptist, though Baylor is a tad liberal for my tastes but it’s them or nobody!) and one who resents the racial code word stuff that keeps getting thrown his way, allow me to say that Luck’s spending 4 years in a pro-style offense, 3 of whom under a head coach who took the 49ers to the AFC title game, and the 4th with a head coach that spent 8 years as an NFL assistant coach, and winning 31 games as a starter on a team that lacked elite (or in some cases even adequate) WRs is what makes him a safer prospect. And not merely safer than RG3, but safer than Sam Bradford. Safer than Matt Stafford. Safer than Carson Palmer. Safer than Eli Manning. Safer than any QB that has been drafted since Peyton Manning. And were his arm a bit stronger and had he played against better defenses, safer than any QB that has been drafted since Troy Aikman.

    Again, it would be difficult to find a bigger RG3 fan than me. But I would also take Luck over RG3.

  13. bozosforall:

    You Nick Foles fans are hilarious. A talented Arizona team went 8-5, 7-6 and 4-8 with him at QB. Foles put up good numbers, but only because of that spread offense that Arizona ran, especially the air raid version that they went to in his last 2 seasons. The guy doesn’t make key plays in games to change momentum (unless you count turnovers that start rallies for the other team), doesn’t deliver at the end of games, is immobile, and struggles to throw NFL routes accurately (read the scouting reports from the Senior Bowl).

    lostok:

    Will you Boise fans quit comparing Kellen Clemens to Tom Brady? First off, Brady is 6’5″. If Moore actually reaches 6 feet I will be very shocked. Second, Brady’s arm is considered weak only when he is compared to guys with cannons like Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning and Matt Stafford. Brady (and Brees) have MUCH STRONGER ARMS than Clemens. There is NO NFL OFFENSE for a guy who can’t throw the ball 40 yards in the air. There is NO NFL OFFENSE for a guy who can’t throw a tight quick spiral into coverage on intermediate routes.

    Clemens will probably go the same route of Major Applewhite of Texas and Brian Johnson of Utah (both of whom had stronger arms by the way): coaching. Johnson is offensive coordinator at Utah, Applewhite is co-offensive coordinator at Texas. Clemens will be a grad assistant at Boise in a few months, and more power to him.

  15. Mayock nails it! My god, it’s absurd how people have labeled this poor kid as a once in a lifetime player. It’s a lot of pressure, plus don’t forget the luck comes from an offensive line in which many of the linemen are going to be drafted in the first round! How effective would Andrew Luck been behind just an average college offensive line, that’s what I would want to know. One thing is for sure, there are no sure things when it comes to professional sports.

  16. wickerphil says:
    Feb 21, 2012 8:27 PM
    bozosforall:

    You Nick Foles fans are hilarious. A talented Arizona team went 8-5, 7-6 and 4-8 with him at QB. Foles put up good numbers, but only because of that spread offense that Arizona ran, especially the air raid version that they went to in his last 2 seasons. The guy doesn’t make key plays in games to change momentum (unless you count turnovers that start rallies for the other team), doesn’t deliver at the end of games, is immobile, and struggles to throw NFL routes accurately (read the scouting reports from the Senior Bowl).

    lostok:

    Will you Boise fans quit comparing Kellen Clemens to Tom Brady? First off, Brady is 6’5″. If Moore actually reaches 6 feet I will be very shocked. Second, Brady’s arm is considered weak only when he is compared to guys with cannons like Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning and Matt Stafford. Brady (and Brees) have MUCH STRONGER ARMS than Clemens. There is NO NFL OFFENSE for a guy who can’t throw the ball 40 yards in the air. There is NO NFL OFFENSE for a guy who can’t throw a tight quick spiral into coverage on intermediate routes.

    Clemens will probably go the same route of Major Applewhite of Texas and Brian Johnson of Utah (both of whom had stronger arms by the way): coaching. Johnson is offensive coordinator at Utah, Applewhite is co-offensive coordinator at Texas. Clemens will be a grad assistant at Boise in a few months, and more power to him.
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    The guy’s name is Kellen MOORE!

    Hard to sound as intelligent as you think you might if you can’t get a mans name right.

    So how much of Kellen MOORE’s career have you watched? He is very smart, accurate and a winner and in the right situation might carve out a nice 10 year career as a backup (see Detmer, Ty) on his way to being a coach and there’s nothing wrong with that! any of us would give anything for that lot in life.

  17. Exactly, nflovercollegefb!

    It’s Kellen Moore! Shoot, I was reading Phil’s comment and thinking the whole time…Kellen Clemens? What the….?

    Did anyone think Greg Brady was going to end up being as good as he is, being a sixth round pick, having barely played at Michigan? No.

    The only thing you’ll regret is if you have a #1 or #2 pick and pass on either guy and they end up being Pro Bowlers.

  18. Foles is the kind of guy that reminds me of big Ben Roth. He is kind of a tank and with the right team may prove to be a NFL guy. Not a fan here, but have watched him play and he is the kind of guy that sneaks out of the 4th or 5th round and fools everyone.
    As far a K Moore,well you never know what can happen… The speed at the next level exposes many skill players and for most, they never know if they have it till they get there. Playing where he did he couldn’t expect to get respect because of the level of competition. Like it or not that is why the SEC gets the attention they do, because of TEAM speed. And that makes them the best training ground. So for him (or anyone else) won’t know till training camp. He may fool everyone and have a faster mind than we know. Brees sure did.

  19. Forgot to add…You talk about how Luck looks? have you looked very close at the $#it locks on that big head of Griffin? maybe when he get’s some money he can have his mouth and teeth fixed so he doesn’t eat corn off the cobb without any hands.

  20. Those who say Robert Griffin is more of a risk are a joke. Mobile QBs like him usually are considered to be a risk becuase of their “intellligence” and in inaccuracy. But Griffin is as accurate as any college QB in the last 10 yrs and he is extremely competent human being. This isn’t Matt Jones or Reggie McNeal we’re talking about. This is the Heisman winning, talent oozing, Baylor balling Robert Griffin III. This guy as Aaron Rodgers written all over him. Accurate, mobile, strong arm, intelligent, and hard working typically are the tools you need to be a success. Any coach who messes up this talent should never show his face in a football related scene ever again.

  21. Trust me ladies and germs, as a former college QB and lifelong football junkie, Luck is the better pick. Now, most White people will say Luck is a better pic and most Black people will say RGIII is a better pic, but as history has shown us, running QB’s like Mike (who let da dowgs out) Vick and those type QB’s don’t last and get hurt more often than not. In today’s football world, teams need a pure pocket passer, RGIII is not. You also will see a decline in Cam Newtons stats this year. Again, trust me on this and you can take it to the bank.

  22. Trust me?

    I don’t trust anyone evaluating college QB’s…not even myself!

    Mayock is the best draft guru out there, but history has proven that you don’t know exactly what you are gonna get when drafting a QB. We are all guessing (how many had Cam as a 1st yr sensation?)

    I’ve been wrong as much as I’ve been right, but Luck and RGIII both look like rookie starters.

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