NFL needs to protect the Saints “snitch”

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When conducting investigations regarding possible internal wrongdoing, it’s critical that the employer insist on complete honesty from any employees who are questioned.  Absent zero tolerance for lying, it will be much harder to get to the truth.

It’s even more important that those who complain about wrongdoing or cooperate with an investigation be protected from any type of backlash.  As a result, employees need to know that any form or shape or manner of retaliation will result in termination.

The NFL has yet to convey publicly the sense of outrage that should arise from the outright lying in which, based on Peter King’s article in the new Sports Illustrated, Saints coach Sean Payton, former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, and Saints assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt engaged when the NFL first investigated the bounty system in 2010.  The NFL needs to ensure, both publicly and privately, that the person(s) who did the right thing in 2011 and allowed the league to dust off a cold case should face no repercussions.

This includes insisting that the person’s name at all times will remain private.  Given that former Saints safety Darren Sharper, who claims he knows the name of the “snitch” and who believes the “snitch” had a “vendetta” against the team, it’s likely that Sharper has privately shared the name with someone who may then privately share the name, and so on until someone anonymously shares it with a member of the media.

As a result, the media should refrain from reporting or repeating the name.  If the name gets out, the person who did the right thing will be rewarded with threats, insults, and perhaps worse.

The NFL encourages fans to be zealous.  As a result, some fans are too zealous.  Just as Patriots fans wanted to downplay Spygate and/or challenge those who refused to do so, Saints fans have become frustrated by the layer of tarnish that has been applied to their lone Lombardi Trophy.  All it takes is one nutcase to take that frustration to a new level, and then the NFL can forget about anyone ever cooperating with any future investigations regarding instances of possible rules violations.

Think back to the 2005 playoffs.  Steelers at Colts.  Referee Pete Morelli concludes via replay review that Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu failed to make an interception.  And someone showed their disagreement with the call by throwing a brick through Morelli’s window.

Even though the Steelers won the game.

If the league hasn’t already impressed upon the persons involved with this specific investigation that retaliation cannot occur, the league needs to do so.  But it already may be too late.  More than a few members of the media hope to “out” the “snitch,” and eventually someone will blab.

The NFL should be as concerned about that happening as the NFL is concerned about the brazen, blatant use of a bounty system by the Saints.

I also addressed this issue on Tuesday’s PFT Live.  I can’t recall whether I said anything different than what I typed above.  Let’s watch it together and compare notes.  You go first.

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80 responses to “NFL needs to protect the Saints “snitch”

  1. This has blown up in the eyes of the NFL and the league office will hide more and more as it keeps growing. This goes totally against God-del and his office and where he wants the direction of NFL to become. This for the fan is going to be an interesting outcome.

  2. Being extremely respected Drew Brees ought to come out and say he is the snitch.

  3. Agreed…The NFL should treat the whistleblower like a reporter treats a source. Especially in this case. This whole bounty system is just vile and despicable, and the person who exposed it should be thanked, not threatened.

    What he did is good for the League, and good for the players. After all, it’s their health and well-being that were being threatened by these bounties. He’s not a snitch. He’s a whistleblower who did the right thing.

  4. I cannot get over how smart Sharper is, he first says nothing happened and now he knows the name of the snitch, but how can there be a snitch when he has already said that none of this is true, so if nothing happened the snitch had nothing to snitch about.

  5. Someone needs to send the “leak” a copy of
    Carmelo Anthony’s “Stop Snitchin” video.

    That type of celebrity “involvement” has really helped the community and police relations here in Baltimore. 😉

  6. Maybe referee Pete Morelli had the brick thrown through his window because he missed all those Saints dirty hits in the 2009 NFC Championship game. After Payton, Loomis and Williams are suspended from the NFL, Goodell should go ahead and kick Morelli out too.

  7. But I want to know who it was! Seems to me that it’s more likely to be a coach or a Saints employee than a player.

  8. For me, the important factor is the motivation behind the “cooperation”. If this person provided info because he saw something he genuinely believed was wrong and wanted to stop it, I can understand it more. If he had a vendetta and wanted some “get back”, then I won’t feel bad when his name is released.

    Even if he wanted to address something he thought was wrong, did he confront Gregg Williams or those participating to voice his discontent when it was happening? If he did, and it didn’t stop, did he report it to someone higher up? If not, and if this was just a revengeful act from a disgruntled former employee/player, then I have no sympathy.

    People with integrity stand up for what’s right all the time…not just when it’s convenient.

  9. If the Patriots were the only team filming play calling, how come coordinators still cover their mouths when calling in plays today?

    The truth that Goodell would prefer fans to overlook is that signal stealing is as common in football as it is in baseball, and that the NFL allows team to film play calling from the stands even today, and that it is as prevalent now as when George Halas and Lamar Hunt were doing it.

    It was the perception, not the reality, that Goodell was worried about.

  10. It’s probably some disgruntled ex-Saint bitter that they got cut or didn’t get a new deal. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out they put money into the pot or got paid out at some point, but now that they aren’t happy they’re willing to spill the beans on their former teammates and coaches.

  11. I agree there should be some form of punishment for lying but the fact still remains that this issue is widespread throughout the league. I am quite sure there is evidence that implicates other teams as well. Defensive players look out! Once this is put to bed you will be replacing helmets and pads with flags.

  12. Prediction: Saints opponents won’t need a bounty to unleash some punishment next year. payback will be a bitch!

  13. Whatever was the informants motivation, he probably saved someones career from intentionally be ended. The same player may blow out his knee next season, or be lit up by a LB and break his neck, but it wont be because a team charted him to be carted off by additional monetary motivation.

  14. @oncall0599

    Your reasoning is highly flawed. If we applied it something that was actually important, say a doctor working on top secret, highly destructive weapon for fascist Germany who “snitched” to the Americans, would your reasoning still apply? Would it matter exactly why he snitched? I would think not.

    Your reasoning assumes that we all regard the whistleblower as a person of integrity, when in reality we don’t know and really don’t need to. That person is deserving of protection simply for the act of “snitching”.

    What happened with the Saints really isn’t that important in the scheme of life nor the course of human history, but because of the enormity of the game and zealous nature of some fans, that person deserves protection regardless of their reason for “snitching”. Whether or not that person is a person of integrity is a different question.

  15. i want to preface this by saying that i am a diehard vikings fan:

    how is anyone surprised by this and why is this somehow now becoming a big deal? just having watched the games and reading this rag everyday for the last (who knows) years i can say without a doubt that the saints defense was trying to hurt people. comments made by saints players in the past have also always alluded to the fact that it was something they were encouraged to participate in, if not compensated for. why now are we all supposed to stand around and act shocked or now start talking about how the trophy is tarnished? its garbage and i don’t want to hear anything about it. there is no way anyone can tell me the league was not the slightest bit aware of this and needed a ‘snitch’ to come forward. but now they are gonna suddenly drop the hammer or something?
    im over it, vikes lost. football is violent, some people will do anything to win and sometimes the league chooses to turn their head the other way. you can’t call a penalty on every play right?

  16. Investigate moralli’s bank account in the days prior & after the nfccg. Also checks to see if any of the refs made bets in Vegas.

  17. Like the man at the top said, snitches get stitches. We know it wasn’t Hargrove. He’s been to jail and he knows better. I bet it’s Bobby McCray. He’s been out of work and probably said too much when asked about questionable hits.

  18. also, darren sharper already was my least favorite player in nfl history but he managed to notch himself another rung today.

  19. Sharper leaks that name, he might as well kiss any last chance of making the HOF goodbye.

  20. They should be a man and come forward, ain’t nobody gonna hurt ya! Scared ass pansie to not put their name out there. It needs to come out sooner or later.

  21. The Snitch is just doing it to HARM the team! Why else would they do it now? They are doing it because they had a personal issue with the Saints..

  22. I hear the sewers are backing up in MN from the hundreds of thousands of Depends being flushed by all the bed wetting vikequeef cry babies?

  23. j0esixpack says:
    Mar 6, 2012 8:29 PM
    If the Patriots were the only team filming play calling, how come coordinators still cover their mouths when calling in plays today?

    The truth that Goodell would prefer fans to overlook is that signal stealing is as common in football as it is in baseball, and that the NFL allows team to film play calling from the stands even today, and that it is as prevalent now as when George Halas and Lamar Hunt were doing it.

    It was the perception, not the reality, that Goodell was worried about.
    __
    Still crying and whining about your team getting caught cheating, joebeergut?

  24. Joepatriothomer,

    Goodell destroyed years of videotaping and cheating by the patriots, there was a reason he did so, that’s the reality not the fantasy land you poor patsie fans reside in. As Josh McDaniels said himself, CHEATING WAS COACHED AND PRACTICED IN NEW ENGLAND. BOOM!!!

  25. I am really tired of these NE fans who keep saying that their team only filmed from the wrong location. That is BS. They filmed closed walk throughs of the opposing team. And they were told to stop by the NFL and did not. Billicheck claimed that he did not interpret the rules correctly, this after the rules where restated to him by the NFL. Now it is true that NE did in fact film from the wrong location but that was just a very small part of their cheating.

  26. I swear this country is screwed up.People are more
    concerned about a snitch rather than the safety of the players.Fans are such two faced idiots.Personally I think the NFL is more interested in the gamblin aspect than they are the safety issues but they can’t just come out and say that can they?

  27. I just watched Peter King being interviewed on PTI (ESPN show). Based on that interview, my bet is the snitch is a former assistant coach. It’s just a feeling based on what he said after mentioning it possibly being a former assistant coach.

  28. Is this the real world or just play time. Either put up or shut up. This isn’t a fisrt degree murder trial, guess what – life goes on. The NFL will be there tomorrow if there is a bounty system or not.

  29. “ken0west says:
    Mar 6, 2012 7:58 PM
    snitches get stitches.”

    @ken0west:

    I bet your neighborhood is a garden spot. Anyone who believes that “snitches get stitches” b.s. deserves to live in a run-down, gang infested, craphole. I grew up in the hood. Now I live in a nice, safe neighborhood where we will testify against your criminal butts. I prefer my new neighborhood.

  30. @ nineroutsider

    Comparing football (a game) to something that would be considered a matter of global security is flawed – and why would a “doctor” be working on a top secret, highly destructive weapon for fascist Germany?

    What kind of doctor is working on that project?

    As for the snitch, if we’re talking about a person who said nothing while it was happening (maybe even participating in it), and only said something when he was no longer benefitting (being paid) by the team, then I don’t respect him. If he chose to keep quiet while he was benefitting, then it was cowardly to grow some morals when his ride was over.

  31. sharper did not say that NOTHING happened. people need to know what they are saying before trash talking. oh wait! nobody knows any facts! nobody has seen the report!!

  32. Given Roger Goodell’s overwhelming concern over player safety in relation to helmet-to-helmet hits and bounties, I’m sure that after he announces the Bountygate punishment, he’ll announce that he’s also giving up his push to risk players to further injury in two more regular season games.

  33. saint4life says:
    Mar 6, 2012 9:30 PM
    “They should be a man and come forward, ain’t nobody gonna hurt ya! Scared ass pansie to not put their name out there. It needs to come out sooner or later.”

    See aint no one gonna get hurt here –

    u can trust saint4life –

    after all he has both saint and life in his name – probably a calm, devout man who drives a small 4cyl car and gardens for fun

  34. Christ Almighty, this guy is not a “whistleblower”. Whistleblowers are people who inform on powerful entities for the common good of the populace. An example would be an employee for tobacco companies who informs the public that their employers pack their products with lethal and addictive chemicals. They do this in the interest of, you know, preventing people from dying in great numbers a slow and horrible death.

    Pro football is entertainment, nothing more. It is not important or vital to anything. It’s the WWE on steroids. I realize the NFL would have you believe the league is some sort of global entity of philanthropy and vital to the good and well being of America. It’s not. It’s entertainment. It exists for the sole purpose of selling 3 things: merchandise, advertising, and tickets. Everything else is window dressing.

    As you can see. Comparing the snitch to an actual whistleblower is night and day, apples and oranges. At best.

    Also very interesting that Patriots fans of all people would champion the snitch, while they castigated Matt Walsh for being a “disgruntled employee with an axe to grind”.

    And you’ll notice that the NFL Shop is still selling the dvd to that Saints-Vikes game……much like they celebrate the nastiest hitters of yesteryear both in dvd sales and on their own network. If you look up the word “hypocrisy” in the dictionary you’ll find a picture of the NFL shield.

  35. Sharpers mouth has a tendancy to get out of control.
    ————————————————
    Has?

    Sharper in the hall – surely you must be joking.

  36. “Alright, I’ll KILL a snitch! I’m not saying I have, I’m not saying I haven’t. you know what I mean.”

    Peyton Manning
    Saturday Night Live
    Season 32: Episode 16

  37. @bozosforall

    Let the record show that bozosforall has no answer to the question of why all coordinators continue to cover their mouths when calling in plays

    Here’s some more advice bozo – whatever you do don’t Google “George Halas and Lamar Hunt and spying”

    You won’t like what you find. It will burst that little bubble you live in.

  38. One possibility for the “informer” is any player or coach who was on the Saints at that time who now plays for the Buccaneers, Falcons, or Panthers.

  39. bigbadal21 says: I am really tired of these NE fans who keep saying that their team only filmed from the wrong location. That is BS. They filmed closed walk throughs of the opposing team.

    C’mon man

    You’re either feigning ignorance or are just plain ignorant.

    Tomase personally retracted the story, explaining how he made an assumption that had absolutely no basis in fact and the Herald retracted the story and issued a front page apology.

    Talk smack if you’d like but at least make an attempt to have your facts right.

  40. bigbadal21 says: Mar 6, 2012 9:52 PM

    I am really tired of these NE fans who keep saying that their team only filmed from the wrong location. That is BS. They filmed closed walk throughs of the opposing team. And they were told to stop by the NFL and did not. Billicheck claimed that he did not interpret the rules correctly, this after the rules where restated to him by the NFL. Now it is true that NE did in fact film from the wrong location but that was just a very small part of their cheating.

    ————————–

    you are 100% wrong and should probably check your facts before saying something so foolish. you may remember ESPN’s failed attempt at humiliating the Patriots with the walkthough special? Well, if you recall, as im sure they do… there were NO WALK THROUGH TAPES. they, as well as the Boston newspaper that lied about it both issued apologies. In ESPN’s eyes though, mission accomplished.

  41. gb4mn0 says:Mar 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    I hear the sewers are backing up in MN from the hundreds of thousands of Depends being flushed by all the bed wetting vikequeef cry babies?
    ————————————–
    Was that a question or comment? I can always tell when you’re off your meds because you show up all over this site spewing your nonsensical tirades against the “vikequeefs”, most times completely off topic, no matter what the topic is. Obviously you suffer from OCD. Get help.

  42. the only way for that to work would be for all of his team mates to tweet I am the snitch and stick to it

  43. We already know who the snitch is, it’s Reggie Bush. It’s totally consistent with his personality. After all, do not forget, he was annoyed about being traded to Miami and he tried to convince the press that Sean Payton encouraged his players to fake an injury to stop the clock.

    Doesn’t anyone remember that from last season? I sure do.

  44. Think back to the 2005 playoffs. Steelers at Colts. Referee Pete Morelli concludes via replay review that Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu failed to make an interception.

    And someone showed their disagreement with the call by throwing a brick through Morelli’s window.

    Even though the Steelers won the game.

    ———————————————————-

    Typical Steeler fan… still throws a brick through the ref’s window even though his team won the game.

    Funny how other fans who’s teams lost (Oakland 1972, Houston 1979, Colts 1995, Seattle 2006, etc.) because of bad calls that helped the Steelers win big games didn’t do similar things.

    Like I said, typical Steeler fan…

  45. Saints fan here. Yep. The super bowl window has probably slammed shut on my team on account of this, and I never cared for Williams. But here’s a thought: what if Williams was actually the snitch? Maybe he knows at the end of last season that they’re not gonna renew his contract and he’s PO’d. If he runs a bounty program, he can’t be the most morally upstanding guy anyway, right? Maybe he would cut off his nose to spite his face. He’s the first coach/manager type to come out and apologize. And the language in that apology does not sound like anything he’d say. Maybe it’s a bit of revenge going out the door. Really, who wouldn’t want to be DC of a team that’s scoring 40 points a game? He got his cake gig taken away, so now he’s gonna get some “get back,” as someone put it.

  46. It was probably Bobby McCray. His contract wasn’t renewed and he had just gotten married when he was canned. He was bitter about it and that was right around the time they said that someone came forward. They should hit hard on every play. I only see this as an IRS issue. They owe taxes. The Saints got fewer flags for unsportsmanlike conduct then most teams. In fact, I don’t think they were particularly aggressive compared to the Steelers, Lions, Niners and Ravens.

  47. @oncall0599:
    “Comparing football (a game) to something that would be considered a matter of global security is flawed – and why would a “doctor” be working on a top secret, highly destructive weapon for fascist Germany?

    What kind of doctor is working on that project?”

    Ever hear of a PhD in Physics? Or mathematics? Or Nuclear Science? These folks are all properly referred to as “doctor”, and yes there are TONS of ‘doctors’ who work on top secret projects.

    Back to the story at hand though, we know the one person it WASN’T was Ray Lewis. He still refuses to snitch on his homies from the fatal stabbing he was involved in.

  48. whoever the scumbag POS snitch is needs to be taken care of old school mob style…bottom line end of story

  49. Now when a player gets cut, the first thing he’s going to do is talk about how his former team has or had bounties. This is all about a disgruntled player that wanted a little payback. Bountygate coming to a team near you!!!

  50. @ NUMBERONEBOZOonPFT:
    says: Mar 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    j0esixpack says:
    Mar 6, 2012 8:29 PM
    If the Patriots were the only team filming play calling, how come coordinators still cover their mouths when calling in plays today?

    The truth that Goodell would prefer fans to overlook is that signal stealing is as common in football as it is in baseball, and that the NFL allows team to film play calling from the stands even today, and that it is as prevalent now as when George Halas and Lamar Hunt were doing it.

    It was the perception, not the reality, that Goodell was worried about.
    __
    Still crying and whining about your team getting caught cheating, joebeergut?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Like a fly to sh**, the most miserable troll on pft arrives to a Pats post right on cue to call NE fans names.
    Dude, are you in 4th grade still? EVERY post is name-calling like an elementary school aged dweeb in a schoolyard. Insecure much?

    Look folks! He’s even got a NEW identity here on PFT to spread his hatred:

    Exhibit 1A:

    “mattwalshvideo” says: Mar 6, 2012 9:52 PM

    Joepatriothomer,

    Goodell destroyed years of videotaping and cheating by the patriots, there was a reason he did so, that’s the reality not the fantasy land you poor patsie fans reside in. As Josh McDaniels said himself, CHEATING WAS COACHED AND PRACTICED IN NEW ENGLAND. BOOM!!!

    W E A K!

    BOZO: GET A LIFE

  51. “ken0west says:
    Mar 6, 2012 7:58 PM
    snitches get stitches.”

    @ken0west:

    What if someone raped your mother or sister?
    Do you still want criminal protected?

  52. What member of the media would sit on that kind of scoop? There’s no way that once the media find out who the snitch was, it will be reported.

  53. “Snitches get stitches”…Damn, lots and lots of broke, ghetto Saints fans in here who pretend to live as hard as the rappers they love (who are mostly pretending themselves).

    Stop trying to reason with stupidity. All they look forward to the 1st of the month and pretending to be hardcore kings of their hoods, wannabe ballers…”get up, get up it’s the first of the month!”

    See I can throw around rap lyrics too and do it better as they have more relevance to your life.

    All of the “snitches get stitches” guys wouldn’t be able to inflect one once of pain on the person(s) who snitched…that’s the best part. Those who acted the hardest are usually the weakest. There a difference between demanding respect and commanding it.

  54. This is not the streets or prison; People still don’t get it that evil flourishes when good men stand by and do nothing.

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