Sapp, Porter pile on Ireland

Reuters

As the Dolphins continue to try and fail to attract players to South Florida, more and more attention is being placed on G.M. Jeff Ireland as the reason for the current state of the roster.

On Monday, NFL Network’s Warren Sapp and guest analyst Joey Porter threw some more jet fuel onto the fire on the TV operation owned by the Dolphins and the 31 other NFL teams.

“Jeff Ireland has a big part to do with it,” Porter said.  “I don’t think when you come in and you’re being recruited by him you really believe the things that are coming out of his mouth.  He’s just a guy that is not trustworthy.  He really doesn’t hold up to what a G.M. is supposed to be.  You think that he has the right tools to lead that franchise in the right direction but obviously nobody is buying into it.”

“Ever since he made that comment to Dez Bryant about his mother,” Sapp said, “we’ve always questioned [Ireland]; like, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me?’ [Asking that question] doesn’t happen in football environments.”

“When you look at a guy that hasn’t even been a G.M. for a long time and here he is asking this type of question to [Dez Bryant] who is looking to be a top-five, top-ten pick, and this is the question you are going to ask me about my mom in front of everybody?” Porter said.  “Who wants to go up there and play for a guy that thinks like that?”

While lingering disdain for Ireland based on a pre-draft interview with Dez Bryant from two years ago may be a factor, the problems in Miami originate a level higher in the organization.  Owner Stephen Ross, in an effort to legitimize his ownership, continues to create a sense of desperation when pursuing coaches like Jim Harbaugh and Jeff Fisher, and quarterbacks like Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn.  Going 0-4 creates the perception, right or wrong, that anyone with options won’t opt to join the team.

As to the most recent swing-and-a-miss, the Dolphins reportedly decided to aggressively pursue Flynn after Peyton passed.  And yet they made Flynn a low-ball offer.

If a team is going to let it be known that it wants a given player, the team needs to then do anything in its power to get the player.  And if the Dolphins knew that the Seahawks were offering more for Flynn, the Dolphins shouldn’t have brought him to town unless they were prepared to match or beat it.

And if they didn’t know what the Seahawks were offering Flynn, they should have found out.

Under Ross, the Dolphins seem like a team with no overriding plan.  No strategy for managing fan expectations via well-timed media leaks.  And zero self-awareness.

There’s a strong P.R. component to everything an NFL team does.  Ross seems to still have no appreciation for or understanding of that basic reality.

Now, as the brand plunges to perhaps an all-time low, Ross will be even more desperate to make a big splash, whether by acquiring Tim Tebow or reaching for Ryan Tannehill with the No. 8 pick in the draft.

Ross needs to play it cool for a change, and quit trying so hard to cure the franchise’s problems in one fell swoop.  With every unsuccessful attempt to do so, the team keeps sinking even deeper.

80 responses to “Sapp, Porter pile on Ireland

  1. sapp and porter have the 2 most irrelevant rings ever,

    sapps SB win was with Jon Gruden coaching his former team/system in a SB, it was all Gruden,

    porters win was a ref driven pitt win over sleepy seattle indoors, and the steelers SB win 2 years later vs Arizona – way better ring.

  2. Not to pile on such a once proud franchise and always proud fan base, from the outside looking in it’s just impossible not to laugh at this. I mean, regardless of who slapped who, Ireland trades the best offensive player in Marshall for two lousy #3’s while attempting to recruit a new QB?

    Ya can’t fix stupid!

    I would have to guess that Ross will be forced to sell in the next several years. What a joke.

  3. don’t worry Miami, the number one pick in next year’s draft can’t choose to go somewhere else.

  4. Had they been in the Mario Williams chase, im sure they’d have made a competitive offer. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 years @ $7m/yr.

  5. No doubt we need a good jerry jones story about how much a ego moron he is. romo is perfect for him.

  6. Could start with a GM who knows what he is doing. Dolphins seem to have plunged quickly into former Lions territory, with a Millen-Ford team at the helm. Interestingly, Ireland is from the Parcells tree. Guess his coaching tree is healthier than his front office tree. Parcells was a great coach, but a mediocre FO executive and strategist.

  7. For those wondering who the next Matt Millen was going to be, I think we have our answer.

    Granny Ross & Ireland have Joe Robbie spinning in his grave.

  8. Q: FEEB

    A: The word that best describes Steven Ross.

    ————–

    Q: LOSER

    A: The word that best describes Jeff Ireland.

    ————–

    And EVERYONE knows this. Baltimoe Orioles all over again.

  9. This regime has really made it hard on us as a fanbase. As a Phins fan, I actually feel sorry for Joe Philbin.

  10. mjbulls45 says:Mar 20, 2012 9:02 AM

    sapp and porter have the 2 most irrelevant rings ever,

    sapps SB win was with Jon Gruden coaching his former team/system in a SB, it was all Gruden,

    porters win was a ref driven pitt win over sleepy seattle indoors, and the steelers SB win 2 years later vs Arizona – way better ring.

    ——————————————————
    I don’t give a damn about Sapp or Porter but a Superbowl ring is not irrelevant.

    If you disagree with what they are saying point out the flaws in what they said.

    But lets say their Superbowl wins didn’t mean anything (which they do), does that mean only someone with important Superbowl wins can have valid points? If it does why should anything you say be relevant, unless you’ve won a “relevant” superbowl that we don’t know about.

  11. If Ross truely wants to build the Dolphins into a winner he needs to fire Ireland and hire somebody like Bill Polian and his son and let them alone to rebuild this once proud organization.

  12. “[Asking that question] doesn’t happen in football environments.”
    ______________________

    But it happens in other environments? Pretty sure that question stops the conversation wherever you try it.

  13. Ross always made me roll my eyes but the topper for me was what he did to Tony Sparano. Not that he wanted to make a change from Sparano, which is his right, but how he handled it with the whole Harbaugh fiasco. What a nightmare of a boss.

  14. Smart move porter. I’m sure GM’s all over the league are calling your agent wanting to sign you after hearing what you said about another GM.

  15. Obviously, the Dolphins owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and/or doesn’t trust the people he’s hired.

    From the moment Ireland’s question to Dez became public, he should’ve done the gracious thing and resigned. That question shouldn’t have happened at all, Warren.

    Not sure who’s the idiot driving the bus in Miami, but it seems they don’t know either.

  16. With $3.5 million in net worth, he’s the league’s second wealthiest owner yet gives low-ball offers to everyone that shows up at their door.

    He’s the Eugene Krabs of football.

  17. mjbulls45 says: Mar 20, 2012 9:02 AM

    sapp and porter have the 2 most irrelevant rings ever,

    sapps SB win was with Jon Gruden coaching his former team/system in a SB, it was all Gruden,

    porters win was a ref driven pitt win over sleepy seattle indoors, and the steelers SB win 2 years later vs Arizona – way better ring.
    —————————————–

    Woah, woah, woah, woah. So now it was all Gruden? I thought everyone said Gruden rode in on Dungy’s coat-tails and simply let Dungy’s team win HIM the ring… so which is it?

  18. Who would have thought that that the NYC real estate market didn’t prepare you to be a NFL owner? After all, all Ross did in NY was buy, I mean, give campaign contributions, to corrupt, I mean, motivated politicians and got laws re-written in his favor. In the NFL you actually have to abide and work within the existing rules. No one to bribe, I mean, support. Actually, I feel bad for Ross. Going from a corrupt plutocracy to a meritocracy must be unnerving for the guy. Fish out of water.

  19. I saw the NFL Channel interview and they were right on. In fact, they didn’t mention the way Ireland treated Andy Dalton last year. Ireland allowed Brian Dabol to act like Brandon Marshall in a roll play scenario! It reminds me of a scene from Animal House!

    There is no hope for the Dolphins.

  20. Ireland could be Bill Parcells’ biggest mistake in all of his years of coaching and management. I’ll give the Tuna a pass on this one.

  21. Whaddya mean “no overriding plan?” Have you already forgotten about Gator Day?

  22. im a die hard fins fan and im just about sick to my stomach with Ireland, but not for nothing the world needs to get over the Dez thing. If your dad is a pimp and your mom worked for your dad then she is indeed a prostitute. but ireland does need to go

  23. I actually found porter to be really funny. He cracked me up when he compared Tebow to Justin beiber.

  24. shawn16: that is one of the best replies i have seen on this site. Too many people denounce others’ opinions because of some made up qualifiers.
    “sapp and porter won superbowls that were easy games for their team” so therefore anything they say is meaningless?

    if thats the case, lets disregard troy aikmen, jimmy johnson, steve young, et al, because they didnt really have much competition in their superbowls.

    oh, and rich eisen, james brown, chris berman, tom jackson you all shouldnt even speak since you’ve never won a superbowl

  25. Owner and GM need to try and fade into the background and allow their new Coach to create an image for that team.

    —————-

    Kind of hard to do that when loud mouthed idiots like Clark and Porter talk about you for no reason or when the media makes you the favorite for every FA (even if it isn’t true) and then calls you a failure when they don’t sign (even if you weren’t that interested).

  26. Since no one ever tells the whole Dez Bryant story, allow me:
    Ireland: What does your father do?
    Dez: Pimp.
    Ireland: And what does your mother do?
    Dez: Works for my dad.
    Ireland: ….so, is your mother a prostitute?

    Perspective, people.

  27. It’s funny how everyone thinks they are a owner or gm. Ireland has brought in some great talent throughout his time in Miami which is the one thing he is good at. Yeah he made some mistakes, you live and learn then move forward. Trading BM, yeah dumbass move for now. Everyone will praise him if he brings in a Blackmon, Floyd, or Jeffries in the draft and he excels like Julio jones. As far a Flynn, would want to pay someone $21 million for 2 starts? Heck no so I don’t blame Ireland. As for Ross, he is doing what he suppose to do, supply the money. The team is predicated on the gm and head coach. Ireland brings in talent and Philbin wins. When this happens we will see how many pseudo Phins fans jump back on the bandwagon

    Go Phins

  28. Everyone who paid attention that season knows the real SB in the SB XL year was not the so called “ref driven” SB win by the Steelers over Seattle. The real SB was won when Steelers beat Indy despite the refs jobbing them on two calls, the second one reversing Troy’s INT of PEyton being worse than anything Seattle had to suffer in the SB. Yet, Steelers still won that game on the road against the best regular season home team of that season. And Joey Porter was one of the key players in shutting down Peyton.

  29. Dolphin fans have organized a protest for today at 1pm in Davie @ the dolphins facility. The amount of fans that will assemble will probably be paltry. Most of the fans have given up… the real protest will be on display when we don’t show up to any games. Our season tickets are at an all-time low… and the walk up single game fans will not be going. Go HEAT, GO MARLINS, GO PANTHERS! Never thought I would see the day that the Dolphins would be 4th fiddle. Fire Ireland… and they will come!

  30. Weirdly true story: I recently sat in the same actual booth that Joey Porter was shot in.

  31. Piling on is a good description for most of the commentary on the Dolphins, both with disgruntled players, and biased media.

    It’s true Ross desperately wants to bring the Dolphins back to their once lofty status; however, to condemn him for that is absurd. Granted, it has been a rather clumsy effort, but better that than no effort at all (not going to name owners, but you know them).

    Ireland is portrayed as abrasive, untrustworthy, and incompetent. I consider him competent as an evaluator of talent. As for the other, sometimes it’s part of the business (A.J. Smith). For example, not overspending for players, old or new, is how you properly manage a team.

    As for the Dez deal… when a prospective high profile draft pick ($$$) says that his father was a pimp and his mother worked for him. Perhaps, he should have asked, “was she his accountant, lawyer, or did she have another role with the business”? Since the direct assumption anyone would infer is “insensitive”.

    Joe Philbin has already begun to change the culture and perception of the team as he instills his well thought out philosophies. One example being the interaction with the media in Miami. Another being that of building through the draft (see Packers and their lack of free agent involvement).

    Never the less, at present, the Dolphins are seemingly everyone’s favorite target for ridicule. IMO, now is the best time to do it, as they may very well get things turned around. At least if, determination and effort has anything to do with it.

  32. >He’s the Eugene Krabs of football<

    LMAO! That makes Ireland either Patrick (brain wise) or Squidward (personality wise)

  33. One week into free agency and everyone north of Fort Lauderdale knows exactly what is wrong with the Dolphins. Warren “dont dare talk to me I’m too important” and joey “I Should be a coach and a gm because i have discovered the meaning of life”Porter give their invaluable opinions.
    Meanwhile the Broncos have mortgaged the farm AND the donkeys on a trifecta. Seattle have a quarterback with two full games, a guy whom his former coach did not feel was worth the overspend. Buffalo are already selling Superbowl tickets because their horoscope said if you spend enough on one player you will become the most glamorous city in the state.
    As for Miami….. you hate us for LeBron and the sunshine. That’s ok. We manage just fine without your approval.

  34. canehouse says:Mar 20, 2012 10:32 AM

    Dolphin fans have organized a protest for today at 1pm in Davie @ the dolphins facility. The amount of fans that will assemble will probably be paltry. Most of the fans have given up… the real protest will be on display when we don’t show up to any games. Our season tickets are at an all-time low… and the walk up single game fans will not be going. Go HEAT, GO MARLINS, GO PANTHERS! Never thought I would see the day that the Dolphins would be 4th fiddle. Fire Ireland… and they will come!

    SUNSET stadium will sell out though..Instead of having 70% opposing team fans, it’ll now be 98%..Dolphins last 25 years, have battled Tampa & Jacksonville as NFL’s worst…noone goes…and there is nothing, NOTHING worse than a stadium filled w/jet fans…Takes weeks for stench to go away.

  35. Miami is not a good sports town. The people there want glamour and flash in their sports teams, and even then they don’t show up o time for games.

    The Heat made a big splash a few years ago with the big 3. Then came the Marlins and their free spending ways a few months ago. Which leaves up with the Dolphins, who apparently are expected to match the efforts of the other 2 teams…

  36. The only hope for the Dolphins is someone buying this team from that idiot Ross. Anyone with a brain can realize Ireland is a joke!

  37. “Ever since he made that comment to Dez Bryant about his mother,” Sapp said

    And ever since Sapp made those comments about Russ Hochstein, I knew he was what I thought he was.

    Won’t watch a show with this jerk on it……..

  38. OCCUPY THE DOLPHINS
    Today. 1pm at Davie Complex
    Let’s get rid of these clowns!!!!

  39. I disagree. I think the problem starts and ends with Ross. Harbaugh and Fisher didn’t want to go there. Would they have given the Dolphins more of a chance if Ireland didn’t have a presence there?

    Saying Ross has swung and missed on a lot of big names is not accurate enough. They lost out on those coaches because of Ireland and they are likely losing out on players because of this guy as well.

  40. May I suggest that you quit reporting on anything that Warren Sapp, Charles Barkley, Chris Carter or Merill Hoge says? They are all complete knuckleheads and I feel way stupider after reading their opinions.

  41. I happened to see this yesterday, and they definitely were piling on pretty hard. They basically said no player wants to go there because of Ireland. They brought up the Dez thing, and they questioned Ireland’s experience.

    They both came off as idiots, though, IMO, especially Porter, who hasn’t learned the rules of what you say on TV and what you don’t, evidently.

  42. I am starting to feel sorry for Jeff Ireland. Imagine if you were not doing well in your job and you found out that random people on the street were telling your boss that you were doing terrible at your job. Now that would really suck.

  43. sapp and porter have the 2 most irrelevant rings ever,

    sapps SB win was with Jon Gruden coaching his former team/system in a SB, it was all Gruden,

    if what you speak is truth, then trent dilfer is a far superior qb than dan marino… Ask Dan Marino, or Jim Kelly if they would mind an “irrelevant” Super Bowl ring……
    As far as Sapp goes, isnt he considered among the greatest D tackles ever…? Great players dont win irrelevant super bowls, but great players often dont win super bowls..
    It would be better if you just dont post on here again…

  44. Reading all the Ireland hate… it makes me wonder how much of the Dolphins woes are due to the GM & how much of it is due to the owners.

    There’s been talk that the Jake Long over Matt Ryan choice was mainly an economic one. Supposedly the Fins didn’t want to pay 1st round QB money for Ryan. If true, that was not a GM decision. That’s a decision made by the owners. And that’s bad news, because you can’t fire an owner. Just ask Oakland.

    (Not that Jake Long is a bad player, of course. He’s an amazing player. But he can’t win games for you the way that a QB like Matt Ryan has in Atlanta.)

  45. HOLY COW. so they whiff on fischer because he cant have full control! Better to not have a career 500 something winning percentage guy thats has never drafted a pee wee team(watch him fail in St Louis) He kept bradford instead of RGIII? Mistake #1. And anyone ever think the Flynn visit was courtesy thing because Philbin liked him but never really wanted him as a QB? Lets face it if they wanted him they could have had him by matching Seattles offer. Like the Lions got Mitchell, the Cardinals got Kolb and the Chiefs got Cassell worked out well for them didn’t it. And they whiffed on Peyton along with 10 other teams BIG DEAL. As for the Marshal trade rumor has it he was a locker room problem and can’t stay out of trouble. led the league in drops too!! Draft Ryan Tannehill with the No. 8 pick in the draft, Pick the SC WR in RD2 get tebow for a 4th to be a H-Back and we will see you in the Playoffs next year. Ireland is doing a fine job and they are not trying to fix this thing in one swoop(Fischer not getting full control) Its ashame all you lemmings just follow the headlines on here and just pile on with no clue!

  46. Good write up on the state of misery we are all experiencing here in sunny SoFla.

    This so-called GM Ireland is completely unaware of what is going on. Self awareness? No Clue what that is.

    One question for these dim wits;

    DO YOU HAVE A STINKING PLAN, or are we just throwing shat at the board hoping something sticks?

    Thank God for the MIAMI HEAT!!!!!!

    Oh yea, can Pat Riley run two franchises?
    Jus saying…

  47. tformation says:
    Mar 20, 2012 12:02 PM
    Reading all the Ireland hate… it makes me wonder how much of the Dolphins woes are due to the GM & how much of it is due to the owners.

    There’s been talk that the Jake Long over Matt Ryan choice was mainly an economic one. Supposedly the Fins didn’t want to pay 1st round QB money for Ryan. If true, that was not a GM decision. That’s a decision made by the owners. And that’s bad news, because you can’t fire an owner. Just ask Oakland.

    (Not that Jake Long is a bad player, of course. He’s an amazing player. But he can’t win games for you the way that a QB like Matt Ryan has in Atlanta.)

    *** this was a Parcells (FAT TUNA) decision, not owner related. The fat Turd you see on TV, yeah him.

  48. OK, what we have here is a target rich environment of simpletons. Sapp and Porter. Really?! And just because you don’t understand the moves management makes doesn’t mean they are wrong and you are right. “Wisdom is justified by her children” as the saying goes. Let next season play out before you judge.

  49. hahah what a coincidence that both channing crowder and joey porter were cut by ireland, and now they dont exactly love him.

  50. Everyone of you that think Ireland should be fired show your ignorance to the situation. If Dez’s daddy is a pimp and his momma works for his daddy? what do you think that sounds like? Fact is most of you that dont like Ireland is because he is white and he made a comment regarding a black man. Its ridiculous. As far as for Porter and Sapp. Now there is two decent human beings full of love for men of all races. lol. Both loud mouth jokes who somehow think people really care what they say.

  51. When Dez said that his mom works for his dad, Ireland should have said “Doing what?” Not ask if she was a prostitute. He should know better, he should know that in today’s overblown media coverage, that statement would be taken out of context and he would be blasted on every media outlet out there. His image is more damaging than his actual personality or demeanor. Perception is reality, and his perception is not that good right now.

  52. The only thing that was worth reading in this article were the insights of Joey Porter. Everything else is just speculation and generalized banter from outsiders looking in.

  53. Today, after reading this article, is the 1st time I’ve ever understood anything Warren Sapp has ever said, and only because it’s in print. Sapp stinks as a commentator, he’s loud, he interrupts everyone and he can’t speak the English language. If you don’t believe, just AXE him.

  54. kungfubillysims says:Mar 20, 2012 11:22 AM

    May I suggest that you quit reporting on anything that Warren Sapp, Charles Barkley, Chris Carter or Merill Hoge says? They are all complete knuckleheads and I feel way stupider after reading their opinions.
    ——————-

    If your grammar is a starting point, stating that you” feel way stupider” doesn’t exactly give you a ringing endorsement about your credibility.

    I’m not feeling more stupid after reading this comment — nor should anyone else.

    And to consider Hoge or Carter a “knucklehead”, both of those guys have forgotten more about football and overcoming challenges in life than you’ll ever experience.

  55. Unfortunately Porter has a history of speaking out against anyone or any team that has cut him in the past.

    Nice of the folks on this site to leave that convenient piece of information out.

  56. mrcogburn says: Mar 20, 2012 12:33 PM

    OK, what we have here is a target rich environment of simpletons. Sapp and Porter. Really?! And just because you don’t understand the moves management makes doesn’t mean they are wrong and you are right. “Wisdom is justified by her children” as the saying goes. Let next season play out before you judge.
    ———————–

    You are quoting the bible (Luke 7:35), the exact quote is:

    For John the Baptist didn’t spend his time eating bread or drinking wine, and you say, ‘He’s possessed by a demon.’ The Son of Man, on the other hand, feasts and drinks, and you say, ‘He’s a glutton and a drunkard, and a friend of tax collectors and other sinners!’ But wisdom is shown to be right by the lives of those who follow it.

    The fact that the dolphins have been the bottom of the barrel during Ireland’s watch, shows as much wisdom as a man quoting the bible before instructing people to judge.

  57. mustafa67 says: Mar 20, 2012 1:31 PM

    When Dez said that his mom works for his dad, Ireland should have said “Doing what?” Not ask if she was a prostitute. He should know better, he should know that in today’s overblown media coverage, that statement would be taken out of context and he would be blasted on every media outlet out there. His image is more damaging than his actual personality or demeanor. Perception is reality, and his perception is not that good right now.

    ——————-

    No, Ireland should have not asked anything and focused on what Dez Bryant would be payed to do… Play football! There is no reason to ask what his mother or father does, they are not the ones who will be playing for him. Instead, he should have asked how Dez planned to use his finances, as that seems to be an issue that can impact his ability to play football… as in serving time for not paying his bills…

  58. Is this the same idiot Porter who got the boot from Miami? Why does the NFL network let Porter a disgruntled ex-phin comment on the air. Sapp is about as sharp as a bag of we mice.

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