Report: AEG’s stadium plan may be fizzling out

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It has long been believed that the NFL will return to Los Angeles only when two viable stadium projects emerge, which then can be squeezed against each other until the NFL emerges with the sweetest possible deal.

The man in charge of one of the two current stadium projects apparently isn’t willing to be squeezed.

Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that billionaire Philip Anschutz, whose company (AEG) wants to build a downtown stadium, has not revised his proposal more than three months after Commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots owner Robert Kraft explained that AEG’s intention to purchase, at a discounted rate, a minority stake in the team that moves to the stadium will not be acceptable.  That message was conveyed to Anschutz during a December meeting in Denver, when the Patriots traveled there to play the Broncos.

“It was friendly, but boiled down to the view that no NFL owner would accept the terms proposed,” a source told Cole.  “If [AEG] wanted to get that much control over an NFL franchise, their only option would be to buy a team.  If they were willing to back off the control and buy a [limited partnership] stake for a reasonable price, then a shared interest in selling suites/clubs/sponsorships could be worked out.”

The lack of progress between Anschutz and the NFL could soon derail the effort to build the stadium.  As Cole explains it, politicians in Los Angeles may soon shift their focus toward expanding the Los Angeles Convention Center.

That would leave one viable stadium project in the Los Angeles area, via Ed Roski’s shovel-ready, open-air project in the City of Industry.  In October, Roski offered to “hand over the 600 acres” to the team that moves there, with the team responsible for financing the stadium and Roski buying a share of the franchise at market value.

Still, without the AEG project to give Roski a reason to go even farther, the league’s absence from the L.A. market may continue indefinitely into the future.

63 responses to “Report: AEG’s stadium plan may be fizzling out

  1. The $ will ultimately win out and a team will be awarded that huge market. Painful to watch the business aspect of this work its way out, but I have no doubt that it will happen.

  2. Among those who live in LA, are football fans, and can afford seats at a game, how many of them would actually be willing to go to City of Industry? That place is a decrepit hell hole.

  3. I am not confident AEG could successfully run an NFL team in L.A. In fact, I am not confident any team could strive in L.A. Many are either fairweather fans or already have allegiance to the Raiders.

    But back to AEG for a moment. AEG recently opened a new concert venue in Minneapolis called The Brick. The Brick was supposed to be the best club venue for bigger bands to play in.

    Recently, they hosted Jane’s Addiction as their grand opener. It wasn’t that the band sucked. People had a bad experience both outside and inside the venue that included obstructed viewing, poor sight lines, and inadequate bathrooms – among other complaints. They were lucky Marilyn Manson wasn’t their first show – otherwise the grand opening would have been a lot worse.

    With that in mind, it made me wonder how they would be able to run an NFL team better than the likes of Dan Snyder if they can’t even successfully run a concert venue like The Brick?

  4. Handing over 600 acres is worth what, 60 mil ? Then he gets to be first in line for a forced sale of a minority interest? 60 mill is no big deal, if you HAVE to cough up for the billion to build.

    Khan or someone else would better off just going it alone. Unless the owner was strapped at which point he should just sell the team and move on anyway.

    LA is outta luck with both of these terms.

  5. Move the Jets to L.A. The Rex Ryan/Tim Tebow circus would be an instant hit and really pack the stadium with all the California pot heads.

  6. How about LA gets their sh#t together before we go dropping a team in their lap.

    Besides, we all know the team will eventually leave LA when fans lose interest after a few seasons (again).

  7. Its not realistic. LA fans have proven time and time again that they do not support NFL franchises. Why the hell would anyone build a 2 billion dollar facility only for it to be half full.

    It will end up being a huge failure. People outside of southern california dont understand the lifestyle, the options, the women, the nightlife. NFL just isnt priority #1. Ask San Diego. If you saw the women running around there you would understand.

    The women is southern cali are so hot, for example they make the women in pittsburgh for example look like dogs. Thats why the men out in Pitt go hunting, the deer are hotter than what they have to come home to.

  8. Why? It’s worked out so well in the past right? LA does not deserve a team. They had two chances and blew it.

  9. $2.15 BILLION for the Dodgers? You think Godell and Jone$ and $nyder and ‘old Krafty didn’t sit up and pay attention to THAT??

    There will be a team in LA soon. Oh yes, there will.

  10. Stay out of L.A. No one wants a team. All of us transplants like watching OUR teams. You’re not going to get anybody out here to start rooting for the Jags.

  11. Where are the viking haters? Shouldnt they be screaming something about how la should just build it and they dont deserve a team. Just move the stadium deal to mn. We will take it.

  12. Angelinos aren’t really that pressed for an NFL team, especially downtown which would’ve been a nightmare. I think it’s funny that the NFL is trying to play hardball like they have any leverage while the other party is just like “ehhh… pass.”

  13. Didn’t they have a team in LA on at least two occasions? They screwed that up so what make this time any different?
    Besides the divisions are perfect just the way they are so we don’t need an expansion team in LA. Maybe an existing team would work, Like Jacksonville but not to add another new team and have 33 teams in the league, because that would be stupid.

  14. The Chargers would seem to be the most likely candidate, particularly with their annual window to opt out of their stadium deal. For the NFL, having Los Angeles in play provides leverage for teams in other markets looking for new stadiums.

  15. If I’m not mistaken didn’t the NFL originally give LA the franchise that eventually became the Houston Texans?From what I remember they have delayed making an announcement specifically so that LA could get their stuff together to get both an ownership group together as well as a stadium plan.Things still haven’t changed in LA they still aren’t together and the NFL in LA is no closer now than it was then.

  16. The reason why the NFL in LA failed twice is due to stadium issues and not being able to get one built. The Niners have been at it more than a decade. You try building something in this state with incredible budget crisis.

    If LA cant get it done, San Diego and Oakland sure the hell can’t.

    Damn shame too.

    Since Al is dead, is he gonna give that 10 million back to the city of Irwindale?

  17. New Rules for building a Los Angeles Stadium!!!

    1. Build a stadium when you have a team or two!!!! How the hell can you have a stadium when no team has arrived yet????? Is there no common sense???

    2. Don’t try to stake ownership in any team!!!! The team that you do not have ownership in might think that you are trying to play favorites!!!! Yes, the New York Jets played in Giants Stadium at the Meadowlands; but the Giants made that stadium. AEG is an outer, private stadium entity that was meant to host a team or two rather than have a greater tie to one team!!!!

    3. Have fewer seats because capacity crowds are filling stadiums less and less yearly!!!! Have the capacity be 65,000, but an internal expansion capacity of 80,000!!!!

  18. I hope Ed Roski is embraced by NFL teams, but of all cities available he picked Industry, CA!!!!

    Ugh!!!!

    If he can find a better city than Industry or Industry shows itself as a football landmark, at least one NFL team should go there!!!!!!!!!

    It’s better than St. Louis or Jacksonville (however, I do not think that the Jaguars will move) and teams such as the Raiders and Chargers should consider it as well!!!!

    Those two Californian teams have no money or deal for a stadium!!!!!

  19. benh999 says:
    Mar 29, 2012 11:09 PM
    Among those who live in LA, are football fans, and can afford seats at a game, how many of them would actually be willing to go to City of Industry? That place is a decrepit hell hole

    ==============================

    As a SoCal football fan that can afford seats to a game…….I’d go to Industry 1000 times to 1 over a trip to downtown L.A……

    Secondly, for those that say LA didn’t support 2 teams in the past…….would you support Al Davis and/or Georgia Frontierre? They both took the cash from other cities and ran. And quite frankly, LA was better off without them. As the people of Oakland and St. Louis can attest.

  20. LA “lost” their teams 18 years ago (Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere, enough said) and yet the NFL is as popular as ever. LA has other legendary franchises (Lakers, Dodgers) and many other entrenched teams (including USC and UCLA football) so it’s actually not a slam dunk that an NFL franchise would succeed.
    Is the City of Industry better than nothing? Angelenos drive enough, will they be willing to risk gridlock to go support the LA “Express”? I’m not so sure.
    LA will always be there as a threat for other teams to move. Chargers actually make the most sense if they don’t get their SD stadium deal that they want.

  21. Why does everyone want to assume Jacksonville/ LA ? Please give me a good reason compared to some of the other cities. And the last that I recall the Jaguars have a lease that’s in place until 2029. Unlike Minnesota and San Diego that’s going year to year. But let me guess & like everyone else y’all assume it’s because we’re the Jaguars and we have tarps which means we have no fans so were perfect candidates to move to Los Angeles …. Not taking in consideration we are playing in a stadium that’s far too big the for market size but That’s to much for simple minded individuals to comprehend.

  22. As a rams fan in st.louis,I sympathize with those in LA,because I lost my team(cardinals)to phoenix my seinor year in high school.So,I guess,this is “good”news,from my point of view,but bad from a LA NFL fans perspective.The chargers do however,look like the team that would be the best fit,due to their year to year lease in SD.

  23. USC is L.A.’s football team, but if they are going to put an NFL team in L.A., there is no better place than a renovated Coliseum. It’s right near (but not in downtown), tons of freeway access, and they could just leave up the peristyle and put a modern stadium right inside of it like they did with Soldier Field. It would be awesome.

    Sadly, SC doesn’t want to be restricted to a 70k capacity stadium like the ones they seem to build for NFL teams when they can put 90K+ in there for big games.

    If they put the stadium in City of Industry, or Carson, or Downey, or any of 10 different crappy, industrial places outside of L.A., that place is going to be empty as soon as they have consecutive bad seasons, without a doubt. Watch what happens to the Lakers at Staples once Kobe is done… crickets.

    Also… is Kraft the commissioner-in-waiting, or what? I’m sure his name in this article fuels the fire of all you Pats haters out there. He’s everywhere!

  24. We all know, that the Jaguars will not move to Los Angeles.
    The Raiders, Chargers and Rams are the three top right now with Vikings still a possibility and the Raiders, may just take a home in the new 49ers stadium.

    LA wants football but, they will not bow down to anyone and AEG has the management team to handle owning an NFL team as they own more then enough teams including the Galaxy of MLS.

  25. just move to Mexico city n call it La los hombres they gotta great stadium all ready built plus the fans from LA could travel easy since they go there every week anyways

  26. All of you L.A. haters are probably frustrated hicks living in some small town. While it’s 75 here your freezing your ass off. Anyway, AEG’s Farmers Field (stupid name) has been flawed from the beginning. They want to build it where the older part of the L.A. Convention Center sits now. The site is too small for a retractable roof, so they want to use something called a deployable roof. Ridiculous! There would be no area to tailgate, traffic and parking would be a nightmare. The reason the fans didn’t support the Rams and Raiders was because they were terrible and Georgia Frontiere & Al Davis were terrible owners. We have NEVER had a modern stadium in L.A. If an owner is committed to winning and we get a state of the art stadium the fans will fill it up. The Roski site is not in Downtown, but it’s 600 acres which would make it the biggest in the NFL and it’s in the center of LA,Orange,Riverside and San Bernardino counties with 18 million people. The problem is the NFL thinks rich people and corporate/Hollywood executives who live on the Westside won’t drive to the City of Industry. So we’re left with Chavez Ravine and Dodger Stadium with 250 acres in Downtown Los Angeles. This is the site the NFL has always wanted to come back to L.A. New Dodgers owners have explored the idea. This is where it should happen. Get informed and don’t be ignorant. L.A. fans have waited for 17 years and that’s fine as long as we know tomorrow it’s going to be 75 again.

  27. Ah yes, Look at the mindless sheep above with the proverbial Jags to LA rhetoric. Not the Chargers, not the Bucs, not the Raiders, not the Vikings, not the Bengals, not the Rams, not the Bills, but the Jaguars who avg attendance is 62k per game. All of these above teams have had numerous blackouts in the past two years. Bucs have been blacked out every single game except one the past two year. The Bengals were making a playoff push and made it and still getting blacked out, but you know what team has had ZERO blackouts in those two years—— wait, wait, wait……….the Jaguars.

  28. With a new stadium in downtown LA – they will support a team no Q. And hey – on a Sunday – what’s the big traffic worry? Sure – people will have to learn how to deal with the congestion – but it will get figured out.

  29. Hello!, the NFL does NOT want a team in LA. Too many owners enjoy being able to use the threat of moving there to extort their current cities for one thing. There are a lot of other reasons but for the most part the NFL wants teams to stay put. LA can’t support teams other than the TV revenue and the NFL already cashes in on that stream big time. If there is going to be any pro sports franchise in the future in LA it will have to be a Futbol team.

  30. Listen morons, LA didn’t LOSE a team(s). G. Frontierre was a St Louis native and had ZERO intentions of keeping the Rams there after her husband died. Al; Davis used the city of LA for branding only. For all you ‘haters’ and ignorant clowns who think that LA can’t/won’t support a team have no clue as to what the h*ll you’re talking about.

  31. lafan101 says: Mar 30, 2012 4:53 AM

    All of you L.A. haters are probably frustrated hicks living in some small town. While it’s 75 here your freezing your ass off. Anyway, AEG’s Farmers Field (stupid name) has been flawed from the beginning. They want to build it where the older part of the L.A. Convention Center sits now. The site is too small for a retractable roof, so they want to use something called a deployable roof. Ridiculous! There would be no area to tailgate, traffic and parking would be a nightmare. The reason the fans didn’t support the Rams and Raiders was because they were terrible and Georgia Frontiere & Al Davis were terrible owners. We have NEVER had a modern stadium in L.A. If an owner is committed to winning and we get a state of the art stadium the fans will fill it up. The Roski site is not in Downtown, but it’s 600 acres which would make it the biggest in the NFL and it’s in the center of LA,Orange,Riverside and San Bernardino counties with 18 million people. The problem is the NFL thinks rich people and corporate/Hollywood executives who live on the Westside won’t drive to the City of Industry. So we’re left with Chavez Ravine and Dodger Stadium with 250 acres in Downtown Los Angeles. This is the site the NFL has always wanted to come back to L.A. New Dodgers owners have explored the idea. This is where it should happen. Get informed and don’t be ignorant. L.A. fans have waited for 17 years and that’s fine as long as we know tomorrow it’s going to be 75 again.
    ———————————————————

    Thank you, haters are gonna hate and well, most couldn’t afford to live here anyway b/c they are such underachievers.

  32. “rajbais says:
    Mar 30, 2012 12:31 AM

    3. Have fewer seats because capacity crowds are filling stadiums less and less yearly!!!! Have the capacity be 65,000, but an internal expansion capacity of 80,000!!!!”

    Just like the Arizona Cardinals do. They lower the capacity by 10k for home games as opposed to Fiesta Bowls.

    But god forbid do not put a tarp over seats though because that is a sign you don’t have local support. But if you have seats on rollers you can hide, you have local support.

  33. skolvikesskol says:
    Mar 29, 2012 11:41 PM
    Where are the viking haters? Shouldnt they be screaming something about how la should just build it and they dont deserve a team. Just move the stadium deal to mn. We will take it.

    ———————————————

    OK then, MN doesn’t deserve a team. The biggest portion of the vikes popularity is due to them playing in the same division as the 13 time Champion Packers and the 9 time Champion Bears.

    MN home games, other than when the Pack plays in MN, are listed as sell-outs because local corporations that run advertising during vikequeer games step up and pay the 30 cents on the dollars ticket price by 3:00 PM on Thursdays so their ads won’t be blacked out locally. If you’re vike ticket scalper you’re a broke a$$ bum.

    In comparison to most of the teams in the league, your team is like an enormous, steaming, stinking turd in the middle of the 13th green at Augusta National to use an appropriately timed analogy.

    Skolvikefailureskol!

  34. Cleveland wasn’t out after two strikes. They lost the Rams and the Browns and then got another franchise.

    Minnesota had three failed NFL franchises and still somehow got the vikings.

    Southern California is not going to let the NFL rip off the their taxpayers as they did in Cincinnati or as the vikings owners are attempting to in Minneapolis.

    NFL games are still broadcast in Los Angeles so they aren’t without football.

    A team with financial trouble like the vikings who can’t sell 50,000 season tickets will be moving to Mexico City or Guadalajara.

    There will be an international team ripping off foreigners before there is one ripping off Los Angeles.

  35. Lafan101, what are you, like thirteen? AL Davis was a terrible owner? Please go study some NFL history. And while you are at it please name one of today’s top teams that has never had terrible years in the past. You can’t! You absolutely make the point about the fan base in LA only supporting a team when they are winning. The NFL just does not work that way. At some point every team will get old, have too much money tied up in players that are long gone, had a few years of bad draft picks, whatever. The need to rebuild WILL at some point be there and you have to support your team through some bad years. It is inevitable, it will happen but if the fans will only support a team during the winning years and turn their back on them during the tough times why would any team want to stay there? Take your 75 degrees and stick it where the sun don’t shine, we “hicks” will sit back and enjoy our NFL teams.

  36. Fans who think LA can’t sell out stadiums don’t know what they’re talking about. Back in the 90’s, the Coliseum seated 103,000 fans. No city would sell out 103,00o tickets when 40,000 of those seats sucked. The Raiders routinely sold 65,000 seats every Sunday. So did the Rams until they moved to Anaheim. Anaheim is NOT Los Angeles.

    The Rose Bowl seats 93,000 fans and 30,000 of those seats suck.

    The Coliseum and Rose Bowl are college stadiums where game day has less to do with the game on the field. They aren’t NFL stadiums and that’s why the franchises couldn’t make a profit.

    But trying to explain this to dense NFL fans in the flyover states is like trying to teach a dog to play the piano.

  37. look jaguars fans…
    you cannot even begin to talk about other teams and their attendance, not the vikes, not the bills, not the bengals, not the chargers, not the raiders, not the bucs, and not the rams until you take those friggin tarps off your seating.

    Those tarps only hide your shame. No other team in the NFL has to cover up thousands of seats to get games on TV and proclaim “WE SOLD OUT!”. not one. until you can name one other team that hides their shame as the jags do, just go back to watching college football and count the remaining days your team has left.

    good day.

  38. AEG led the project to build the Sprint Center in Kansas City promising a NHL or NBA team.

    Never happened. We just became a decoy for other cities to build new stadiums.

    Don’t trust AEG.

  39. I hope Goodell and his cronies don’t get seduced by the $500 million or maybe even $1 billion expansion fee they could collect from a new LA team. Going to 33 or 34 teams is a terrible idea but in the modern NFL money really does rule the day.

  40. Interesting how a large state with huge entertainment, tourism, and agriculture industries can be in so much debt. Keep up the good work, Cally.

    Shovel ready; where have I heard that before?

  41. @dspyank2k11

    And who might you be a fan of?

    Obviously, you have been watching too much ESPN. No other teams have tarps because they built small stadiums to avoid the problem. Take into account that we have averaged about 65k during years where we haven’t even sniffed the playoffs, and I think we’re doing pretty good here.

  42. At least “Flyover States” don’t have budget issues
    and we all for the most part (this means you Minnesota) have nice modern stadiums.

    You coastal elites are the ignorant hicks, try getting off your self built pedestals and look at the real world around you.

    The fact that the NFL is the biggest sports league in America by far, with out a team in L.A. means that you folks in la-la land have a highly over inflated opinion of yourselves.

  43. gb4mn0 says:Mar 30, 2012 8:17 AM
    OK then, MN doesn’t deserve a team. The biggest portion of the vikes popularity is due to them playing in the same division as the 13 time Champion Packers and the 9 time Champion Bears.
    ———-
    Wrong. If they were in the AFC North I would be cheering for them too.

    Your act is done man. Even Packer fans are bashing you on the latest Packer thread. They’ve disowned you, we wont take you, so you bring the Bears into the mix. They wont have you either. Just pack up and go cheer for the Bengals or Raiders.

  44. well if the dodgers just sold for 2 billion, how much is the LA market worth. I am sure the raiders are just waiting to see who they sue.

    Yes all the know it all, yadda yadda yadda…time will tell all.

  45. sj39, what are you like 10? Yes Al Davis was a horrible owner during his 13 years in Los Angeles and the fans still packed the L.A. Coliseum. He benched Marcus Allen! Georgia was even worse with the Rams in Anaheim. The fans in L.A. understand that they’ll be down years, but are not going to put up with a perennial loser. That’s fine you enjoy your losing NFL team while living in Sticksville and I’ll watch in HD in the comfort of my living room overlooking the beach and hot women. Sorry hick.

  46. The LA Haters need to do a lot more research.

    The big issue has always been that the citizens of LA and OC are not going to foot the bill for a stadium. In the past, whever the NFL has come to town to pitch moving back here the offers have always been something to the effect of “give us a new stadium for free and we’ll let you buy tickets to watch a team.”

    Umm no. Guess again. When the NFL offers us a team, we don’t drop our pants and say OK. We say “pay for your own stadium, and build it in a way that reduces the environmental impact.”

    This isn’t some hick town that needs the NFL to draw people into the city — this is LA. It’s not a fly-over city, it’s a fly-to city.

    AEG agreed to pay for their own stadium and agreed to make it the most environmentally friendly stadium in the NFL. Whether or not they can get a team is their problem, not ours.

    And don’t forget that Al Davis took $10M from the City of Irwindale to move the Raiders out of downtown (into Irwindale) … except he pocketed the cash and moved the team back to Oakland!

    We know better than to trust the NFL!

  47. dspyank2k11
    sj39
    Ignorance is bliss. The answer to you question is 11k seats are covered. The stadium with tarps is 67K on par with every other market without tarps 78K and can be expanded to 81k. These are facts don’t let them cloud your judgement to make a point. There is no shame as you say. The stadium was built too big for the market. If you have any other question about my team I’ll be more than happy answer them for you. Oh and you say enjoy this team while we have them. We will enjoy them for many many years to come as to they aren’t going anywhere. But you wouldn’t know that b/c you listen to ESPN and read this site for your sports propaganda. Simple minds, gotta love them. See you around sirs.

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