Tannehill could give Vikings trade leverage

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After former Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill worked out in College Station on Thursday, Mike Mayock of NFL Network proclaimed that “Cleveland has to take [Tannehill] at No. 4.”  If the Browns don’t take him with the fourth pick, the Dolphins (whose offensive coordinator is former A&M coach Mike Sherman) would likely gobble Tannehill up at No. 8.

And if Tannehill somehow slips through the cracks to No. 12, the Seahawks apparently will be interested, given the presence of coach Pete Carroll, G.M. John Schneider, and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell at the Pro Day session.

With three teams possibly clamoring for Tannehill, the team that holds the third pick in the draft may finally have a trade market.  Whether it’s a flip-flop with the Browns or a five-spot discount with the Dolphins or a nine-position plummet with the Seahawks, three different teams could make a run at the clear shot at Tannehill.

At a bare minimum, the Vikings should squeeze the Browns into a one-spot swap, like the Vikings did with the Dolphins back in 2004, when Vikings G.M. Rick Spielman was coincidentally the G.M. in Miami.  Then, the Vikings could still pick tackle Matt Kalil and finagle an extra pick (maybe a third-rounder) from the Browns.

To make that happen, Spielman will have to entice his former team into making an offer to move up from No. 8.  Unless the Browns fear a jump by Miami or Seattle, the Browns will be inclined to call Minnesota’s bluff and sit tight.

The issue was explored in closer detail during Friday’s PFT Live.

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60 responses to “Tannehill could give Vikings trade leverage

  1. I can’t see the Browns being dumb enough to draft Tannehill at #4, much less trade a 3rd round pick to move up one spot to get him.

    Do not reach… think Gabbert and Ponder.

  2. The ineptitude of their front office negates whatever leverage is gained by Tannehill’s availability.

  3. Absolutely no effin’ way the Browns trade up. They only trade down. Blackmon, Claiborne or T-Rich. Make it happen Heckert.

  4. Tannehill would be an instant upgrade for the Browns, Seahawks, or Dolphins. With the rookie salary cap, it’s well worth the gamble to give up a 3rd round pick and swap firsts with the Vikings. Again, this isn’t Jamarcus Russell money anymore.

  5. Please, Mr. The Cleveland Browns, your fans beg you to call everyone’s bluff and don’t take him anywhere in the Top 10. Or at all.

  6. I know its a passing league, but I don’t think a team needs Tannehill THAT bad. I hope he proves me wrong, I didn’t see anything last year that made me think he has that “it” factor.

  7. If Tannehill goes to the Browns in the first round, even if it’s at 22, we’ll get the torches and pitchforks and run Holmgren and Heckert out of town even if we have to tear down Berea with our bare hands.

  8. if cleveland wants 2take tannehill and move up and swap with us hell we’ll take it give us both your 1’s this yr and a third or somethin and you take tannehill but listen 2me browns fans and management instead of getting another qb how about you get colt some weapons!!! tannehill will struggle because he doesn’t have playmakers on the corners besides cribbs and he’s a return man! look massiquoi little norwood and them aren’t #1 or #2’s in any system there hybrid guys there to run route and catch the ball but there not a calvin johnson or wes welker so stop looking for qb’s cleveland and go get some wide reciever to help out colt or tannehill!!

  9. The Browns clearly do not want him at #4 and certainly and will not trade up for him!?

  10. PLEASE! Miami needs to FINALLY invest in a trade up for the QB they haven’t had for 13 years. You know, invest in the most important position on the field! Why on earth would you trade up from 8 to 3 for Ryan Tannehill instead of doing what you have to do, & trade up with the Colts. Take Robert Griffin or Andrew Luck! Big surprise, Miami did not move up to 2. Well, it’s time to move up to 1 and get a ******* Quarterback already!!

  11. The Seahawks just signed Matt Flynn. You really think they’d draft a QB in the 1st round after that? No way the browns or anyone else trade with the Vikings for the 3 pick to get him either. You’re reaching MDS, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  12. remember when all the draftniks were talking about Clausen going in the first round? and McCoy possibly going in the first round and definitely not later than early second round?

  13. Seahawks may take him at 12 spot, but not trade up to get him. In fact, not sure they pick him there.

  14. Considering that the consensus on Tannehill is that he isn’t NFL-ready and is too unproven, I don’t see any team giving up the king ransom’s worth of picks it would take to move up to the #3 spot. Even at #4, Tannehill would be a big risk for the Browns, who have a ton of other holes that the pick might be better used in filling. The same is true of the ‘Phins, who did the whole “we’re not going to panic in our search for a QB” bit with Flynn in FA. As for the ‘Hawks, who did sign Flynn, the wiser move might be to wait and see how he works out before taking such a gamble on Tannehill. My gut feeling is that Richardson makes a more logical pick for the Browns, allowing Miami to sit at #8 and draft him there and that Miami’s plan would be, should someone take him before then, simply turn to the best OL or pass rusher still on the board.

  15. There’s no freakin’ way the Seahawks are trading up from 12 to draft Tannehill , they already have Flynn . They may well take another QB in the later rounds , but not at 12 .

    John Clayton did an interview on the local ESPN radio station the other day and said not to read anything into them being at his pro day . If he slips out of the first round , maybe . The guy is definitely not first round talent anyway ..

  16. Miami needs to move up to grab blackmon or grab floyd, or another decent reciever, or grab a rt in the first rd….don’t be dumb and trade up for tannehill, grab weeden in rd 2 , best possible move……or trade to the late 20’s for an additional 3rd …..grab him late first, and have an rt or wr in the second than u got 3 3rd rd. Picks

  17. Would love for the Vikings to swap picks with the Browns. Unless the Seahawks really love him, doubt they will trade down. So its just gonna depend on how much the Dolphins want to do something imo, maybe after losing out on some free agents they will want to make a splash.

  18. not a browns fan but hope they would be smart enough not to waste all the picks they have to build their team with on a chance this guy might turn out to be good. the smart money says you build up your team and if mcoy can’t do the job then you hope you get a shot at a sure thing like barkley next year. who knows maybe mcoy will turn out not to be so bad if they get some players around him instead of him running for his life on every play.

  19. If the Vikes can capitalize on this, kudos to them. I cannot believe that teams would be clamoring to trade up for Tannehill- seems like a panic move, akin to the Vike’s drafting on Ponder last year, or the Denver trade-up to get Tebow.

  20. “PLEASE! Miami needs to FINALLY invest in a trade up for the QB they haven’t had for 13 years.”
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    They had Tannehill last year when his name was Chad Henne.

  21. If I were the Vikes, I’d sit right where I am at #3 and take Mo Claiborne. Ten years ago I would have said a franchise LT is more valuable than a shutdown Cb. I’m not so sure about that anymore. Keep in mind the Vikes play in the Same division as Megatron,Matt Stafford, Aaron Rogers and Craig Jennings. Claiborne is going to limit the damage an opponents #1 Wr. will be able to do. In this era of the passing game, that’s critical.

    If you want to know how good Mo Claiborne is,look no farther than last years BCS title game. Nick Saban went after heisman finalist Tyran Mathieu aka the Honey Badger in coverage. He wanted no part of Mo. Claiborne. Imho,he’s the next Derrel Revis .

  22. hopefully the Browns are throwing a smokescreen so the dolphins jump on him in the first round so we don’t have any competition for Weeden in the third round

  23. Its amuses me reading all u ignorant fans talk about how theirs NOWAY they trade up band draft him. Do you know these GM’s personally? Are you the person calling the shots on draft day? I assume not. These team put a lot of time and effort looking at these players to find out if they fit their programs and if they are their franchise QB. If the Browns really want him and fill like another team will trade up to get him then they WILL trade up, and if the Seahawks or Dolphins really want him and think the Browns will take him at 4 then they will give up a kings ransom to get him! That is the way the NFL works. If u think a guy is your franchise QB u do what u need to do to get him. The Vikings did it with Ponder, the Jaguars did it with Gabbert, the Jets did it with Sanchez, the Redskins just did it with what were assuming is RG3, and teams have been doing it for years. You want someone u go get him nomatter what anyone else thinks bc he’s your guy!!!

  24. Hey hikohadon, “They had Tannehill last year when his name was Chad Henne.”

    You just made my point! Time to finally get a QB. And his name is not Tannehill! Do what good franchises do, trade up to get the highest rated Quarterbacks! Or should we wait another 13 years?
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. You’ve got to have a Q’B blah, blah, blah. What does Alex Smith, Joe Flaco and T.J. Yates have in common?

  26. Holmgren will screw up whatever scenario the Browns decide to go with. Worst front office hire since Vinny Cerrato with the skins. Look at it this way Browns fans, you have a shot at Barkley next year and Holmgren and that sorry staff will be out of Cleveland before he gets there.

  27. Ponder is not a reach yea he was pick kinda high but he can become a good QB gabbert was defineitly a reach especially how he performed last year as for tannehill being a #4 pick is definitly a reach but who knows what the browns GM thinking come draft day

  28. I have a feeling people are going to be storming the gates of Berea no matter who the Browns select in the first round. With Tom Heckert in charge, we could be looking at Melvin Ingram #4 or acquiring Philly’s 6th round picks for the next ten years for our first 1st rounder.

    Leave it to the “offensive gurus” there to sign off on taking defensive players with both first rounders! And thus 13.8 ppg will remain status quo and they will have to peel Colt off the turf with a putty knife.

  29. A couple of months ago no one would have suggested that Tannehill would go in the first round. A month ago no one would have suggested that he would go in the top ten. A couple of weeks from now we’ll be reading how the Colts are trying to decide between Luck, RG3, and Tannehill. This makes the addle-minded who camp outside for a week to see the hot new movie look level-headed by comparison.

  30. It will be a huge mistake if the Vikings trade the #3 pick to anyone but the Browns at #4. I’m not saying Matt Kalil is a surefire pro bowler, but the offensive line is absolutely atrocious and there aren’t any free agents that look more promising in that LT spot. Claibourne is a sexy pick and the secondary is another desperate need for this team, but you’ve got to shore up that O Line if you want to turn this team around next season and let Ponder develop. If they trade down to the Dolphins or the Seahawks (which both seem improbable if not impossible situations) pick, It will be a disaster, but that would certainly be in keeping with most of the Vikes draft picks over the last five years. Here’s hoping they do the sensible thing and stick with Kalil at #3.

  31. jamesnieman says: Apr 1, 2012 3:06 PM

    “Its amuses me reading all u ignorant fans talk about how theirs NOWAY they trade up band draft him. Do you know these GM’s personally? Are you the person calling the shots on draft day? I assume not. These team put a lot of time and effort looking at these players to find out if they fit their programs and if they are their franchise QB. If the Browns really want him and fill like another team will trade up to get him then they WILL trade up, and if the Seahawks or Dolphins really want him and think the Browns will take him at 4 then they will give up a kings ransom to get him! That is the way the NFL works. If u think a guy is your franchise QB u do what u need to do to get him. The Vikings did it with Ponder, the Jaguars did it with Gabbert, the Jets did it with Sanchez, the Redskins just did it with what were assuming is RG3, and teams have been doing it for years. You want someone u go get him nomatter what anyone else thinks bc he’s your guy!!!”

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    I don’t think the Vikings traded up to get Ponder; I believe he was taken at 12, their original pick. The Jags only gave a second round pick to move up seven spots to number ten with the Redskins to get Gabbert. They jets also didn’t give up a future 1st round pick to get Sanchez; they fleeced the Brown and their former coach at the time, Eric Mangini. They gave up their original pick, somewhere in the teens, their second, and unimportant players from Mangini’s regime to move up to six I believe it was to draft Sanchez. It was a reach but they didn’t over pay in draft compensation to get him. None of these examples were giving up the farm.

  32. If past drafts set a precedent, the going rate for even the Browns to move up from the 4th pick to the third pick would be a second round pick. The Browns wanted Kellen Winslow Jr with their seventh pick in the draft, the year he was becoming a pro; the Bengals had the 6th pick in that draft and were supposedly interested in taking him. They got the Browns to give them their second round pick just to move up to that spot and that spot is less valuable than the third pick in the draft.

  33. Getting Kalil to keep Ponder from getting killed next year is way more important than any 2nd or 3rd round draft pick. The Vikings better not get too cute and miss their chance to get this guy.

  34. As a fan of a division rival I hope they keep trotting out McCoy instead of drafting Tannehill. In the film I’ve seen he looks promising.

    If you think Richardson is the draft answer for the Browns look at Peterson with the Vikings last year. He was great but they were still awful. If your team does not have strong play from the QB position you have little hope.

    YouTube highlights of Tannehill:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x1D-w9zG1M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  35. theduuuuuuuuuude says:
    Apr 1, 2012 4:48 PM
    It will be a huge mistake if the Vikings trade the #3 pick to anyone but the Browns at #4. I’m not saying Matt Kalil is a surefire pro bowler, but the offensive line is absolutely atrocious and there aren’t any free agents that look more promising in that LT spot. Claibourne is a sexy pick and the secondary is another desperate need for this team, but you’ve got to shore up that O Line if you want to turn this team around next season and let Ponder develop. If they trade down to the Dolphins or the Seahawks (which both seem improbable if not impossible situations) pick, It will be a disaster, but that would certainly be in keeping with most of the Vikes draft picks over the last five years. Here’s hoping they do the sensible thing and stick with Kalil at #3.

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    Honestly, I don’t think the Vikes can go wrong either way. The Colts and Skins are taking a far bigger risk Imho. You just don’t know how a Qb is going to work out.

    The reason I said I would go with Claiborne was I believe a Shutdown corner is harder to find than a great LT. It was also due to the Wr’s and Qb’s who play in the same division. Historically speaking,you try to build a team to win the division and let the chips fall once the playoffs roll around. The goal for the Vikes right now should be to beat the Lions and Packers. Both of those teams have pro bowl Qb’s and Wr’s. If you don’t have that shutdown corner,your chances of beating them consistently fall drastically.

    The Saints won a Sb,with a 4th round pick starting at LT in Jermon Bushrod. In fact,the rest of the line were late rounders as well

    LG Carl Nicks- 5th round’

    Center- Jonathan Goodwin. – FA, originally a 5th round pick of the Jets.

    RG- Jhari Evans- 4th Round

    Rt- John Stinchcomb- 2nd round,his replacement is Zach Strief who was a 7th rounder.

    My point is good o-linemen can be found later in the draft just like Rb’s. if you want that shutdown corner,be prepared to spend a top 5-10 pick getting him. They are very very rare birds and Claiborne is one.

  36. Applecool: my point was if a organization thinks a QB is their franchise QB u get him no matter what like jets and Redskins did when trading up and like the VIKINGS did when selecting Ponder while everyone else was screaming REACH

  37. Don’t think it will happen but in my opinion best case for the Vikings would be to trade back with the Dolphins. ( they get their much needed QB) Vikings pick R. Reiff who in my opinion is going to be a probowl LT and picking up something like a 2nd and 3rd this yr or 3rd this yr and 1st next yr. Maybe even more if Browns, Dolphins, and Seahawks get into a bidding war. Getting extra 2nd round picks this yr will be huge for anyteam with he talent in this yrs draft

  38. It doesn’t matter what we fans think of Tannehill.

    However of the Browns want Tannehill, it would be stupid of them to not trade with the Vikings to make sure they get him. For those of you who right now are crossing your arms in disdain as you read that, think Fantasy Football. How many times have you passed on the player you really wanted because “it’s too early”, only to have a rival “reach” for said player who lights you up all season long?

    That’s why you go get the guys you want, and smile smugly as you’re whipping the tar out of all the nimrods who squealed “REACH!” when got him.

  39. If they didnt trade up for rg3,neither will trade up for a qb who wont take a snap this year.

  40. I hope miami trades up to get blackmon. We need a big wr since we got rid of Bmarsh. Allot of people seem to forget that right now and there are two big wr’s going in the top 10. Then typical ireland can get his qb in the 2nd (osweiler). Win-win. Of course I’d like Tannehill… but… not ireland

  41. phinfan says:
    Apr 1, 2012 9:08 PM
    I hope miami trades up to get blackmon. We need a big wr since we got rid of Bmarsh. Allot of people seem to forget that right now and there are two big wr’s going in the top 10. Then typical ireland can get his qb in the 2nd (osweiler). Win-win. Of course I’d like Tannehill… but… not ireland

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    It doesn’t matter if you have a stud Wr. if you don’t have someone throwing him the ball. Think Moss in Oakland and Steve Smith in Carolina prior to Newton.

    If the Dolphins want Tannehill,just sit tight and he’s likely there when you guys select at #8

    I’m not saying I’d draft exactly like this,but I see it falling this way

    Indy- Andrew Luck
    Wash- RG3
    Minny- Matt Kalill
    Cleveland- Justin Blackmon
    Tampa- Mo. Claiborne
    Stl- Michael Floyd- probably too early,but the 2nd best after Blackmon.
    Jacks- Reily Reif- Like the above poster says,don’t be shocked if he turns out just as good as Kalill

    Dolphins- Tannehill.

  42. cont. Reif is also a good example of why good tackles can be found later. Kalill is a stud,but Reif isn’t chopped liver and is a viable trade down possibility.

    My gut feeling just says the team that passes on Claiborne is going to regret it later. I’m not a LSU fan and say this without any bias.

  43. note to self. make sure you’re completely awake after your nap before posting lol.

    Although not a huge need in Stl. it’s going to be hard to pass on Trent Richardson. Steven Jackson isn’t a spring chick anymore and the injury bug has been plaguing him recently. In either case, I stand by my original point and say Tannehill will be available at 8 when the Phins pick.

  44. “Hey hikohadon, “They had Tannehill last year when his name was Chad Henne.”

    You just made my point! Time to finally get a QB. And his name is not Tannehill! Do what good franchises do, trade up to get the highest rated Quarterbacks! Or should we wait another 13 years?
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
    __________________

    Speaking of points, I’m pretty sure you missed mine. Yes, both Miami and Cleveland need to FINALLY get THE QB. But just because Tannehill is the highest rated QB left on the board does not make him THE QB. In Miami or Cleveland, Tannehill will have a lot of pressure to play right away on bad teams with limited weapons.

    I don’t feel that will be a good situation for a developmental guy like Tannehill, and if you’re taking him that high in the 1st round, if he doesn’t work out (which I think is more than likely with those 2 teams), then he sets that team back another 3-4 years.

    Both fanbases are desperate to have their QB problems solved, but you only have to look back to last year’s draft to see that reaching for a QB isn’t necessarily a solution.

  45. “If you think Richardson is the draft answer for the Browns look at Peterson with the Vikings last year. He was great but they were still awful. If your team does not have strong play from the QB position you have little hope.”
    ________________

    True. But what use is picking a QB if that QB doesn’t solve your problems? You gonna take Kirk Cousins at #10 overall just b/c he’s a QB?

    And ask yourself this: If your team was sitting at #4 and both Adrian Peterson and Christian Ponder were available, which one would you take?

  46. Vikings fan here and I think getting that extra pick [third rounder] would be awesome but Ponder still needs to show something so the vikings are bluffing

  47. Anyone taking Tannehill in this draft is wasting a pick. He will never play in this league.

  48. jamesnieman says: Apr 1, 2012 6:11 PM

    Applecool: my point was if a organization thinks a QB is their franchise QB u get him no matter what like jets and Redskins did when trading up and like the VIKINGS did when selecting Ponder while everyone else was screaming REACH

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    Gotcha. That is true; if you’re probably not going to be able to select that player with your next pick and can’t get a good trade deal to make it worth trading down and selecting him, then yes, you have to do it. I’m not saying that Tim Tebow is a good or will ever be a good QB but teams were expecting him to go in the second round and a team traded up into the 1st, just a few picks after they selected a play and grabbed him; if he’s the guy that you believe in and there’s no value for any other player that you could select, then what choice do you have but to do it.

  49. Not to worry, Vikings Nation, I have no doubt that Mr. Speilman will screw this draft all the way up…Skol!

  50. Hey hikohadon, “Speaking of points, I’m pretty sure you missed mine.”

    Again, you are talking about Tannehill! Who gives a rats ass about Tannehill. The point I will continue to make is the completely inept organization that is the Dolphins! THEY NEED A QB!!!! NOT TANNEHILL!!! NOT THE 3rd RATED QB, who was a 2nd rounder until recently!!! God knows the Dolphins have gone through enough of them!!!Trade up to the top of the draft & get one after all these years, or we will still be talking about this in another 13 years!!! YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT!!!!!!!!

  51. khmer379: “Ponder is not a reach yea he was pick kinda high”

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    That would be the definition of a “reach”

  52. Np player is really a reach until he has played in the nfl for a least 4 years. Yes we can sit here and speculate on players who the so called experts call reaches and steals, but if Ponder ends up being the next Payton Manning is he still a reach? In my opinion the answer is NO he would have been a steal and a player like N. Fairly who everyone was calling a steal for the lions ends up being a bust then he would be a reach and not a steal

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