Jeff Ireland: If our board was right, then we killed it

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Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland didn’t waste much time after picking Ryan Tannehill in the first round before he started crowing about the value of the pick.

Ireland said that experience was the only difference between Tannehill, Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. His bullish feelings didn’t stop in the first round, though. During an interview with the team’s website, Ireland said that he’s never been part of a draft where his team got so much value for its picks.

“If our board was right, then we killed it,” Ireland said.

Plenty of teams feel that way in the days after the draft, but it will take a while to find out if their board was actually correct. Drafts need time and perspective to be accurately evaluated and that could still wind up being a problem for Ireland.

There’s a lot of pressure on the Dolphins to start winning now and Ireland’s comments will only fuel expectations that things will be better right away. The Dolphins definitely addressed some of their biggest needs over the course of the three days. In addition to Tannehill, they got offensive help in tackle Jonathan Martin, running back Lamar Miller and tight end Michael Egnew. The defense got a pass rusher it really needs in Olivier Vernon. If all those things pan out, then Ireland will wind up looking very smart.

He just needs to survive long enough to see that happen.

65 responses to “Jeff Ireland: If our board was right, then we killed it

  1. My bet is on Ireland panning out. More of his picks will stick with the Phins than from his previous drafts.

  2. “Ireland said that experience was the only difference between Tannehill, Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III is Tannehill’s relative inexperience.”
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    I bet the Bengals’ GM in the 90s said the same thing about the difference between Donovan McNabb and Akili Smith.

    I was really glad to see Miami take him, because I was afraid Seattle might have done so at 12. Yes, he has a good arm, but that lack of experience, on a college team that finished .500 and got the “courtesy popularity invite” to a no-name Bowl, was reason enough to invite serious pause before investing so high a draft pick in him. He also had the smallest hands of any QB at the combine.

  3. The Martin and Miller picks were great picks for where they were at. Even if Tannehill isn’t the starter right away, Moore should play well enough to keep the team competitive.

  4. Best draft in a very long time for the Phins. All the hate for Ireland is getting old and just as irritating as Jim Irsay’s tweets.

  5. @themage

    I agree, and god forbid he is hurt we have a great back up in Garrard. This gives him a third year in this system (2 in college)

  6. Wow! U cld use that quote 32 timea and have the same 32 non-stories… Great work pft! May i suggest u do a story on how the sky is blue…

  7. Ireland has not looked intelligent, smart, or savvy at any point during his time in South Florida. His management style and moves make him just south of a slack jawed drooling rube… his time in South Florida is running out… he isn’t a South Floridian… never has, never will be. His time here is on borrowed time.

  8. “If our board was right, then we killed it,”…nice soundbyte, Jeff.

    But I don’t get the point…don’t teams always draft off of how they set their board?

    What was different this year?

  9. Honestly, I was watching the draft and wondering on some of the picks. I went back and looked at projections/grades, etc and was actually more encouraged by the picks. There was very good overall value.

    He got Martin in the 2nd round who had a 1st round grade. Miller had a 1st-2nd round grade but had medical issues. He got 2 WR’s in the 7th that had 4th round grades.

    Will be interesting to look back in 3 years on production of this class.

  10. Mark Sanchez only had 16 starts in college, so whats your point? Plus the Jets traded up to get him.

  11. 4th in the AFC East.

    The JETS will enjoy crushing you twice next year. Once in a packed Metlife. And once in front of 60,000 empty orange chairs.

  12. Not…Buying …it. Yea maybe you killed it, or maybe your continuing to kill our hope and dream. Oh and his name is spelled Jef Fireland, you might want to update your spell check.

  13. What’s that trophy for winning the draft?

    Oh, right, there isn’t one.

  14. Right Jeff…

    If I answered all the questions correctly on the test then I got an A!

  15. dolphinsrule65 says:May 3, 2012 11:34 AM

    Mark Sanchez only had 16 starts in college, so whats your point?
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    Are you suggesting that Mark Sanchez has set the bar for QBs selected in the top 10 these days? Because if so, Tavaris Jackson is already clearing that one.

  16. 4th in the AFC East.

    The JETS will enjoy crushing you twice next year. Once in a packed Metlife. And once in front of 60,000 empty orange chairs.
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    I am very disappointed in the dolphins offseason’s recent events, however the one thing I am pretty sure of is that we will crush the New York Jets both times as long as Sanchez/Tebow/Sparano/Rexie are at the helm! Lol!

  17. Yea and last year the Eagles assembled the Dream Team and won the superbowl before the season started.

    Thats why they play the games boys. Only time will tell if any of these draft picks will pan out.

  18. Im sure your “BOARD” was as MESSED UP AS YOUR FRONT OFFICE!!!! So very sad to see this once proud franchise reduced to taking a second round kid in Tannehill because of constant IDIOTIC choices!!! Sad thing is if this kid pops Mr. Ireland wont be there to see it!!!! Mr. Ross needs to clean house and maybe just maybe the people will come back..

  19. If your board had that slap Tanehill in 1st round then good luck to ya. He will get Big Sherm fired again

  20. I like miller, vernon, martin, egnew good value as for tannehill hell no! I think lamar miller will be a good 3 down back wanted my niners to get him personally so he can learn behind frank gore.

  21. You have to give it to Ireland
    He drafted the replacement for Matt Moore
    who is in his last year of his contract

    He drafted a potential replacement for
    Jake Long who is in his last year of his contract
    with Jonathan Martin

    He drafted a potential replacement for
    Cameron Wake who is in his last year of
    his contact with Oliver Vernon

    He drafted the potential replacement for
    Anthony Fasano who is in his last year
    of his contract with Michael Egnew

    He drafted the potential replacement for
    Reggie Bush who is in the last year of his contract
    with Lamar Miller

    Savings could be significant
    Fasano’s cap hit is $4.5 million
    Long’s cap hit is $11.2 million
    Bush’s cap hit is $6 million
    Wake’s cap hit is $800k

    New contracts for the above could cost
    $30 million or more per year

    Amazing coincidence that Irelands first 5 picks
    play the same positions of 5 players who are in their
    last year of contracts???

    negotiating ploy or replacements??
    It should be interesting seeing how things play out

  22. Personnel evaluation is not Jeff Ireland’s problem. He is widely regarded as one of the best talent evaluators in the NFL. He drafted a-lot of talent while in Dallas and has had two solid drafts in Miami. The knock on Ireland is that he is arrogant and tends to talk down to players during the negotiation process. I think that he is trying to work on this(hopefully).

  23. While I’m a diehard Dolphin fan I have been very critical of Ireland. That said, I was ecstatic about this draft. Lamar Miller and Jonathan Martin were both projected to go in the 1st round. Miller and Daniel Thomas will make for a nice combo when Reggie Bush gets hurt this season. I watched some Egnew videos on youtube and dude is a def upgrade over fasano. I’m not sold on Vernon yet because I watched him play a lot for the Canes but who knows. The Canes have been terrible at getting the best out of their talent over the years. Maybe Vernon will follow the same path as guys like Jimmy Graham and Calias Campbell and be a star in the NFL.

  24. Pay attention, folks, because Jeff Ireland may be turning the corner now that he’s running the show. Time will tell…

  25. Ireland needs to learn to just shut up and do his job.

    Does he not realize the expectations he has put on himself by making comments like these? The whole franchise QB debacle in the offseason, etc. It’s OK to talk to the media and give insight, but you need to temper your feelings a little bit.

    Ireland has set himself up BIG TIME at this point. If this draft class does not produce by end of this season, by all intent and purposes he has just said he deserves to be fired.

    Shut up dude!

  26. Actually, he did kill it.

    He drafted a Franchise quarterback, a 1sr rnd talented tackle in the 2nd, a pass rushing specialist in the third and a athletic play-making TE, a 1st/2nd round RB in the 4th, the fastest in the draft who has the size to be an every-down back, a versatile DE/LB in the 5th who is athletic, non stop motor who is good in pass coverage, a Z receiver with great size and hands in the 6th, and 7th rounds, and an athletic NT from Texas who had a 4th round grade. Plus passing on Flynn, Cutting the aging Bell, and moving J Wilson to his natural position to replace him(7th rnd pick) resigned Solia and a much cheaper price, adding Garrard who is 2 years removed from pro-bowl play as a veteran presence on the cheap, picked up M Moore for peanuts the year prior who finished 12th in overall QB ratings, signed Bush who all laughed at , then proceeded to rush for a 1000 yards, picked up Cameron Wake, one of the premier pass rushers in the league for nothing…I could go on, but ya Id say he killed it. All you calling for his head are clueless. Go play the franchise mode on Madden, that makes more since to you then the real deal.

  27. Florioooo, Im pleased as punch u are out there to re-speak for the GMs across the NFL telling us what they really mean, and what theyre really saying, and what the GMs need to do in order to win,,,, gee with out you we fans would be nothing more then sheep wandering the NFL waste land.
    Why havent you given Ross ure appy for the GM job.

  28. “He drafted a Franchise quarterback, a 1sr rnd talented tackle in the 2nd, a pass rushing specialist in the third and a athletic play-making TE, a 1st/2nd round RB ”
    ==================================

    I wish fans would stop parroting Mel Kiper’s MOCK drafts in their assessments of a team’s draft. Saying a player was a “value” pick or an “over-reach” is absurd because teams are doing the picking, not Kiper, Mayock, PFT, or McShay. Fans are blasting or heaping praise on GMs based solely on mock drafts decided on by analysts/bloggers.

  29. cavemanna says:
    May 3, 2012 1:12 PM
    Actually, he did kill it.

    He drafted a Franchise quarterback

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    On what alien world is Tannehill a Franchise QB?

  30. wow cavemanna…… u must of stayed out in that miami sun so long u BAKED WHATEVER BRAIN U MIGHT HAVE HAD!!! I realize it must totally suck to have to deal with your complete disaster of a front office but to make the comments like those just truly show your lack of knowledge of the game.. quit being a homer so bad that ur claiming Garrard is going to be anything but an old waste of a paycheck!!! Ireland is slowly BUT SURELY destroying this once proud franchise!!

  31. Lamar Miller reminds me of a young Ladanian Tomlinson with more speed.

    Jonathan Martin is Jake Long painted black.

    Michael Egnew is a another Jimmy Moore.

    Olivier Vernon is a young Michael Strahan.

  32. 2012 Drafted teammates:

    RG3: 5 (including top 20 receiver)

    Luck: 3 (within the first two rounds, including 1st TE selected, round 2)

    Tannehill: 3 (PK – round 4, RB – round 6, CB round 7)

  33. This franchise has been screwed by a short list of publicly anointed “saviors”, in Jimmy Johnson, N. Satan, and Parcells, and then Spielman (not that he was a savior).

    You guys are so quick to jump on Ireland, but honestly… how long has he actually had the reigns? Isn’t this his 2nd year without the tuna pushing the buttons?

    Look, the best move this team made since getting rid of Shula (not that that was a good move), was signing Philbin, who was involved with that (idiot owner aside)? I was disapointed that they didn’t sign Flynn, but top to bottom I like the way the draft looks. Give it a chance and remember, were still better than the Jet’s, so let it play out!

  34. You are really going to quote RGIII’s completion percentage??? He played in a spread offense that threw mostly screen passes and deep balls off of fake screen passes, go back and check Pat White’s college completion percentage. Tannehill throws a very accurate ball but had no receivers to help him out. He probably has a stronger arm then Luck. And he ran a pro style offense in college. So he only had 19 college starts, thats more then Sanchez and more then Cam Newton. Joe Flacco played division 2 because he couldn’t become a starter at Pitt. Also anybody that thinks he would have been there in the second round, your crazy. Seattle would have taken him and possbly the Eagles and the Browns definitely at 22.

  35. “He drafted a Franchise quarterback, a 1sr rnd talented tackle in the 2nd, a pass rushing specialist in the third and a athletic play-making TE, a 1st/2nd round RB ”
    ==================================

    I wish fans would stop parroting Mel Kiper’s MOCK drafts in their assessments of a team’s draft. Saying a player was a “value” pick or an “over-reach” is absurd because teams are doing the picking, not Kiper, Mayock, PFT, or McShay. Fans are blasting or heaping praise on GMs based solely on mock drafts decided on by analysts/bloggers.
    ?????????????
    Thats my assessment, not Kiper’s. Kiper gave them a “C” Egnew is an athletic TE, J Martin was a 1st rnd pick in almost every book, and Lamar Miller had a 1/2 round grade on him. Kiper you say? Sounds like Kiper, is all you know to assume thats where I got my opinion, because thats where you heard yours.

  36. wow cavemanna…… u must of stayed out in that miami sun so long u BAKED WHATEVER BRAIN U MIGHT HAVE HAD!!! I realize it must totally suck to have to deal with your complete disaster of a front office but to make the comments like those just truly show your lack of knowledge of the game.. quit being a homer so bad that ur claiming Garrard is going to be anything but an old waste of a paycheck!!! Ireland is slowly BUT SURELY destroying this once proud franchise!!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I can tell by your response the amount of intelligence you have. My post wasnt comments by the way. They were facts. Everyone of them
    Your the homer the doesnt have a clue and you heard it the grapevine that Ireland sucks so you jumped on the vine without giving it any thought.
    Chances are thats the pattern of your life. Kick rocks kid, you bother me.

  37. Picks are bad, only if you draft them too high. All picks are a gamble. If you draft high and the pick works out people don’t care where they were drafted.

  38. draftking says:
    May 3, 2012 7:19 PM
    2011 completion percentages

    RG3: 72.4%
    Luck: 71.3%
    Tannehill: 61.6%

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    I have read that Texas A&M had more drops than any other college team last year, so Tannehill’s lower completion percentage is deceiving.

  39. >>>Mark Sanchez only had 16 starts in college, so whats your point? Plus the Jets traded up to get him.<<<

    I think that IS the point…..Sanchez is a mediocre QB at best..FAR from "elite" and in NO WAY should the Jets have moved up to get him in the draft where they did. I wouldn't want Sanchez as my QB either.

    Tannehill played 1.5 seasons at QB in college. Finished 6-6 last season in his only full season as a starter. His coach was fired. He has the smallest hands of any QB at the combine. This is NOT a recipe for success.

    Jeff Ireland is an idiot.

  40. his hands would be an issue if he fumbled the ball alot. But he didnt so, non issue.

    Texas A&M finished 6-6, not Ryan Tannehill. If all they needed to win or lose was for Tannehill to play by himself, then I’d say he went 6-6. The coach that was fired, won three staight division titles, so he’s no slouch either

  41. Ryan Tannehill was a Great pick for all you Dolphin Fans and you will find out soon because he will be the STARTER. Stop listening to Kiper Please. People keep saying Matt Moore or David Gerrard..Lol….C’mon, are your expectations that low. Tony Sporano is no longer there with his anemic/lame Offense. They will be running the Read Option West Coast Offense. Which means they are all equal now and starting at the same point. The only thing is theat Ryan Tannehill and his College Coach are the only 2 people who know the system very well. So, why would you try and teach this new system to 2 bums who clearly can’t run this type of Offense when you have a guy you picked #8 overall who knows it and can execute it very well. Can Matt Moore or David Gerrard do this? http://youtu.be/6AfAUxWP2VU

    If you didn’t see Ryan Tannehill on Gruden’s QB Camp, Check it out and ask yourself who would you rather have to run the Read Option West Coast Offense. http://youtu.be/YO6UgIg1AU4

  42. jc327 says:
    May 3, 2012 1:03 PM
    Pay attention, folks, because Jeff Ireland may be turning the corner now that he’s running the show. Time will tell…

    Great comment! With the firing of coach Sparano, we have finally washed the fish (TUNA) smell out of our team! Let’s see how Mr. Ireland’s picks pan out this year. If we can go 10-6, I’ll consider the year a huge success! Phins Fan for LIFE!

  43. Allen,

    You still need good backups. They must know the system. Strange things can happen in Pro Sports.

  44. Tannehill wasn’t taken #8 Overall to be a backup. Matt Moore and David Gerrard are Backups. Ask David Gerrard what happens to the Starter when your team drafts a QB with a top 10 pick. Tannehill will be the STARTER in Week 1 because it just makes sense. http://goo.gl/bMHxr

  45. Allen,

    He will start when Philbin says he is ready to start. If he does start week one, I hope that he beats out Moore and Garrard. I wouldn’t like to see him start ONLY because Matt and David couldn’t do the job.

  46. He’s ready more than Moore n Gerrard who btw dont know the new offense. Tannehill does, so he will be schooling them how its done. Philbin is no fool, Tannehill gives them the best chance. Why is Moore or Gerrard even being talked about?

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