49ers want NFL to change box score, give Alex Smith passing record

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San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith completed 18 of 19 passes on Monday night. But the 49ers want to change the stats to 19 of 20.

Coach Jim Harbaugh confirmed today that the 49ers want the NFL to review the game and change the official box score because the 49ers contend that one play on which Smith threw the ball to Michael Crabtree behind the line of scrimmage — a play that went down in the stats as a run by Crabtree — should have been counted as a complete pass from Smith to Crabtree.

It definitely was a pass,” Harbaugh said.

Why is this such a big deal? Because if Smith gets one more completion, he’ll have the all-time record for highest completion percentage in a game in NFL history. To qualify for that record, a player has to throw at least 20 passes in a game.

The record is currently owned by former Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, who completed 24 of 26 passes (92.31 percent) in a 2009 game against the Jaguars. In second place is former Browns quarterback Vinny Testaverde, who went 21-for-23 in a 1993 game against the Rams. Third belongs to former Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson, who went 20-for-22 in a 1974 game against the Steelers.

If Harbaugh gets his wish and Smith’s stat line is changed to 19-for-20, he’ll be at 95 percent, the best completion percentage in a game in NFL history.

Unfortunately for Smith, it seems highly unlikely that his stat line will get changed: The ball clearly did not travel forward, and the official scorer got this one right. Smith had a great game, but not a record-breaking game.

111 responses to “49ers want NFL to change box score, give Alex Smith passing record

  1. LOL

    Harbaugh is becoming a real laugh a minute.

    Don’t get me wrong he’s obviously a great coach.

    As far as a rational human being goes, not so much.

    Luckily the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

    So Alex Smith will have to dink and dunk his way into the record books on another day.

  2. Oh please. Alex Smith has a complete fluke of a game, and they want him down as a record setter? How about one of the worst 1st overall picks of all time? He’s earned that one.

  3. The stat obsession in todays NFL(and sports overall) drives me nuts. Who cares about records, its all about W’s and L’s. Like Brees parading around with the touchdown record on a losing team, or Cam Newton being called a Franchise QB because of a whole lot of garbage time yards. Everytime I turn on ESPN its something like “Ryan Tannehill had a record breaking day, for most yards in the 3rd quarter on the road by a rookie QB for the dolphins, passing Dan Marino.” Ugh.

  4. As a 49ers fan I’d have to agree with kylexitron……its a pretty dumb inquiry. I mean I haven’t seen the play in question, but I mean just let it go. I think as a coach you should be talking about how Randy Moss showed some explosion, Crabtree showed he has good hands, and the defense knocked the crap out of the Cardinals O……..trying to get 1 cheap completion for Smith to get a record isn’t a good move.

  5. Oh, yes! Let’s go back and change all the things that make a team or player look better statistically because that’s what’s important in the game of football!

    Get your priorities straight, Harbaugh. Just because you think Smith did the absolute bare minimum required to qualify for this “record” does not mean he is entitled to it. Take the win and worry about next week like a good coach should.

  6. Heck….if it is legit, give it to him. Harbaugh isn’t asking to bend the rules, simply look at the tape and if the official scorer got it wrong, change it to the correct stat.

    No big deal.

  7. Harbaugh actually taking the time to fight to get a backwards pass changed to something else on Alex Smith’s behalf must be some sort of favor Alex is calling in from the pile of favors he racked up not signing with miami after Harbaugh got caught batting his eyelashes at Peyton Manning.

  8. Haha. The Niner haters are out in full force now. He had a hell of a game and you can’t harp on Harbaugh for making an attempt at something special for one of his players. All of you that are talking trash just sound silly. Alex is one of the highest rated and most winning QB’s in the league over the past couple of years. Keep hating and talking your non-sense.

  9. The only records that matter are the rings that you collect along the way and that will not be something that Alex will ever ever have unless he replaces David Carr as the Giants clip board holder

  10. i’m a lions fan so this guy is obviously not my favorite coach in the entire league even though he is a fantastic coach. but he is absolutely nuts, first i his “gobble gobble jive turkey gobble” interview and then this? like someone said above luckily being a normal human being a great coach dont have to go hand and hand.

  11. If they care that much they should have called 1 more pass play late in the game. Cardinals had no chance by then anyways

  12. What you’ve got here is a coach who’s not totally committed to winning. A one-game stat like that? Pathetic.

  13. Smith would have the record if Harbaugh would have declined the pass interference call on the first pass of the game. The ball was already complete for the first down, and the Niners took the penalty to give themselves an extra few inches. (or maybe I misinterpret the rules)

  14. The league should counter with “We will give him the extra completion as long as we can change the boxscore from the NFC Championship game to reflect the Niners were 0-13 on 3rd downs”

  15. Most coaches don’t like distractions. I simply cannot imagine Lombardi, Walsh, Noll, Shula or Belichick spending time on things like this. They all had a singular focus: Winning. That other stuff was — and is — for egomaniacs.

  16. Closer to a lateral, as Roethlisberger can attest to.
    Shut up Harbaugh; you and your brother are just like the Ryans. Big bags of wind. Win a couple of Super bowls, before continually running your mouths

  17. @Bluefan204

    “How about one of the worst 1st overall picks of all time”

    Are you high?

    Since Harbaugh took over and including playoffs…34TDs, 10INTs, 20 Wins and 6 Losses. Dude…at least make sense.

  18. Of course he had a great completion percentage. He’s not allowed to throw the ball unless the receiver is wide, screaming open.

  19. Order in the football world is kept in tact if Kurt Warner retains a QB record over Alex Smith… This only happened because his coach doesn’t want him throwing more than 20 yards.

  20. @gooch80

    Singletary didn’t build ANYTHING. Scot McGloughan was a good GM before Baalke, but Sing did nothing but get in the way. The only things I would credit him with is coaching Willis early on and getting Vernon Davis to finally “get it”.

    Aldon Smith. Navorro Bowman. Carlos Rogers. Chris Culliver. Ray McDonald. Terrell Brown. Dante Whitner. NONE of those guys were starters or real contributors when Sing was the coach.

  21. I guess your gonna have to go look at every game ever played and change the stats around to make people happy, what a joke, what ever happened to just playing football because you love to play, what a bunch of overpaid babies!

  22. @str8up12

    QB Rating of 102.1, 4th highest in the NFL. I think peeps need to start updating their “Alex Smith is a bust” information. They are CLEARLY not paying attention.

    He averaged over 12 yards PER ATTEMPT in that game. Yes, there was alot of YAC, but do you think no other QBs get YAC yards from their QBs? SMH.

    Bottom line, NOBODY has done what Alex did last night regardless of the length of pass. NOBODY. EVER.

  23. @oaktownraider

    I’m a huge Niner fan but I ain’t saying he’s “elite”. I’m just saying he’s not the bust people make him out to be. Peeps have an issue giving credit where it’s due. The guy has a QB rating over 100 and a QB rating over 95 since Harbaugh took over.

  24. mezter says:
    Oct 30, 2012 6:16 PM
    “Haha. The Niner haters are out in full force now. All of you that are talking trash just sound silly. Alex is one of the highest rated and most winning QB’s in the league over the past couple of years.”
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    I think you mean year and a half… before his defense became top 5 and before he became a tolerable dink and dunk game manager who didn’t melt down from week to week.

    Dude took 5 years to reach the level of Sanchez’s 1st two seasons….

  25. marvin49 says:
    Oct 30, 2012 6:44 PM
    @str8up12

    “QB Rating of 102.1, 4th highest in the NFL. I think peeps need to start updating their “Alex Smith is a bust” information. They are CLEARLY not paying attention.”
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    nah, they’ve paid attention…. they’ve been paying attention since before the 49ers became relevant again…. we all remember who alex smith is, unlike the fairweather 49er fans who like to pretend they weren’t begging Singletary to put David Carr in the game.

  26. This is one of the main problems with Harbaugh. Obviously a very good coach and have to be impressed with what he has done in SF. But he clearly continues to get distracted by issues that really don’t matter. Who cares if Smith gets this meaningless record. Why are you wasting time on it? Just like he wastes time worrying about what other coaches say, with every single call during a game. It just seems he can lose focus. And maybe that isnt that big of a deal, but i think when a coach has that problem, it rubs off on the players – he gets bogged down in this trivial matters, and his players will tend to do the same.

  27. The reason you guys think Alex Smith sucks is because he doesn’t put up stats. The only way some people are going to start realizing he has improved is if he breaks some records. Apparently Winning 20 out of the lat 26 games isn’t grabbing your attention. If he keeps playing like this he is going to game game manage the 49ers to a Lombardi Trophy. For everyone saying Harbaugh should just focus on “next weeks game” the 49ers are on a bye…

  28. Alex Smith is not a good QB. Who cares if he has a record that doesn’t mean anything. In the most important game he has ever played the nfc championship game last year he completed one pass to a WR.

  29. I’m really sick of mister poopy pants harbaugh whining after every game and during the games on the sideline – you must have been a spoiled little brat when you were a kid. WAH WAH WAH WAH – get over yourself already !!!!!

  30. bluefan204 says:
    Oct 30, 2012 6:09 PM
    Oh please. Alex Smith has a complete fluke of a game, and they want him down as a record setter? How about one of the worst 1st overall picks of all time? He’s earned that one.
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    That’s just being hateful. How about Jamarcus Russel or Tim Couch or David Carr to name a few.

    Assuming you are a stupid Giants fan. How about Tucker Frederickson? You probably won’t know who this is but if you were a *real* Gints fan you would. Now that is a bust!

  31. I thought Alex Smith didn’t worry about stats? I thought all he worried about was the Win and Loss column? Guess not.

  32. @marvin49

    “Aldon Smith. Navorro Bowman. Carlos Rogers. Chris Culliver. Ray McDonald. Terrell Brown. Dante Whitner. NONE of those guys were starters or real contributors when Sing was the coach.”

    Aldon, Rogers, Culliver, and Whitner weren’t even on the team when Mike was the coach. Kind of hard for him to work with guys were still in college or playing on other teams.

    Brown and McDonald were stuck behind better players at the time.

  33. key words: the ball went backward, meaning a lateral. Just pay attention to the next game stupid.

  34. As a niner fan, this doesn’t bother me either way. Smith is an average quarterback, definately not the worst 1st round pick like some idiots say. Apparantly they forget the likes of Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, ect…Ask yourself this, if it was your team, your quarterback, wouldn’t you want your coach to have this for your quarterback? The guy had a greatgame. Who cares if the coach asks them to take a second look?

  35. @afon17 so they picked up moss and Manningham and drafted AJ… Lets talk about last year a little more and pretend last night didn’t happen. One pass to a WR is fine when your TE gets 112 yards and 2 TD. Hats off to the Giants they got it done and we didn’t. Alex executed the game plan perfectly but the Giants nabbed two Special team turn overs….Simple. The most important game you have ever played was in Madden 12.

  36. I’m a huge 49er fan but a rule is a rule. Alex Smith threw the ball for almost 240 yards in the game but about 120 of that was YAC.

  37. This is disappointing. Justin Smith was JUST getting interviewed after the Thursday night game against Seattle and said something like “49ers don’t worry about stats. That’s loser ball.” (This is what many of you are referencing). I was so proud to hear him say this because it’s TRUE! All these stupid stats and records are completely out of hand. And now Harbaugh is “challenging” a play that was CLEARLY A LATERAL!!

    With that said, why must we be on such a roller coaster with Smith? Are there better QB’s that I would rather have? YES! Are there worse QB’s? YES!! Is Colin Kaepernick better than Alex Smith right now? NO!! The bottom line is that Alex had a nice game last night. But in watching it again, were any of those 19 throws really all that impressive? Nope. They were all safe. Which is fine! That’s the game we play. Also, Alex took 4 sacks lasta night that could have been incompletions. I guess it’s better than throwing a pick and it keeps the clock moving.

    With all THAT said, who decided you need 20 passes to set this record? I get why you don’t want some WR to own the record going 1 for 1 on some trick play, but 19 passes seems like it would be plenty. Either way, Warner deserves this record because I’m sure his 24-26 was far more impressive than Smith’s 18-19 that was made a lot more impressive by YAC.

  38. gooch80 says: Oct 30, 2012 6:10 PM

    Alex Smith is garbage. Tell Harbaugh to shut his mouth and continue to ride on the coattails of what Singletary built.
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    LOL you do know that only 2 of “Singletary’s guys” are even still on the team right? Singletary built NOTHING. All of these players were brought either with Nolan, or Baalke against Singletary’s wishes or with Harbaugh. Patrick Willis was nothing special according to Samurai Mike…

  39. @bhop49 HAHA as a 49er fan I love to chant “We Want Car” when I’m at the game and Smith gets a TD. I was so freaking mad when our stupid fans started doing that. It’s great to throw it back in un-loyal fans faces. It made being at the Saints game that much more special. I have never once booed the 49ers and I never will.

  40. If it isn’t a pitch or a handoff and Smith actually threw the ball it should be a pass regardless of being behind the line of scrimmage. With that said Harbs should just let it go

  41. ther3alslimshady says:

    “And I want the amount of money in my bank account to be changed…”

    Not a problem at all. I accept cash, check, and credit card.

  42. Regarding all the expert QB raters, may I remind you that the Steelers cut Johnny Unitas. Further, Terry Bradshaw was terrible for his first three or four years. Then, but you know the rest of the story. I doubt any teams would want to take a chance on A. Smith now, but the most obnoxious coach in the NFL has done a superb job of maxing his talents. And, that same coach may be the most obnoxious of all time. Don’t worry, he will prove me right in time.

  43. Alex Smith’s stat line is the most deceptive line I’ve seen in history. 90% of his throws were under 10 yards. Great, he can throw a five yard out; give the guy a cigar.

    I’m just glad he managed to finally become an average QB before his 50th birthday. A lot of QBs who are no longer in the league wish their teams had as much patience with them as the 49ers had with Smith.

  44. Better give it too him or Harbaugh’s face will screw up so tight they’ll need the Jaws Of Life to unwind him…or is that unwhine him.

  45. Oh yeah because Alex Smith deserves the record over Kurt Warner because he made a ton of dump passes in row… yeah right. Captain Checkdown, the ultimate game manager/system QB over one of the greatest of all time. Whatever.

  46. Alex Smith’s stat line is the most deceptive line I’ve seen in history. 90% of his throws were under 10 yards. Great, he can throw a five yard out; give the guy a cigar.

    I’m just glad he managed to finally become an average QB before his 50th birthday. A lot of QBs who are no longer in the league wish their teams had as much patience with them as the 49ers had with Smith.

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    I’m not sure how familiar you are with football, but 10-11 defensive players are lined up within 10 yards of the LOS too. If short passes are no big deal, then Joe Montana’s career was as much of a fluke as Smith’s game last night.

    The Niners haven’t dumped Smith because they haven’t had a better option. GM Trent Baalke was planning to move on without him but Harbaugh wanted Smith to be his QB.

    P.S. A lot of QBs are no longer in the league because they didn’t have it in them to stick through the tough times like Smith did.

  47. lionsdraftguy says: Oct 30, 2012 8:19 PM

    No ones like the 49ers, what an embarrassment to the NFL.
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    Says a Lions fan.. LOL Joke is on you son

  48. Harbaugh is showing the whole world his total lack of class. His team gets a dominant win over a division opponent and solidifies its first place standing and he still finds something to whine about. How many coaches would like to have the NFL review the games and change officials calls to determine the outcomes? I bet Mike McCarthy would.

  49. Alex Smith was hysterical in his post game interviews. He went on and on as if this was some magical performance. Get serious, the guy dinked and dunked a bunch of 5 yard throws to wide open receivers. This was a testament to a dominant performance by the 49ers over a weak division rival whose defensive game plan was to stop the run and prevent the big play. The credit goes to the 49ers as a team, and it is well deserved. Alex Smith on the other hand may not like the expression, but he remains the quintessential game manager.

  50. @johngaltwho

    Alex said he had no idea what his stat line was. It was the announcers selling the moment. But haters gonna hate. I just think its hilarious all this hate for Smith and Harbaugh.

  51. People sure love to dink alex smith. You do know that he CAN play football…He didnt win the Heisman because of his good looks. He has gone through so many changes offensively as well as pressured to be the saving grace for a team that needed to be rebuilt from the ground up. He has played through horrible coaches and injuries to get where hes at, he has some stability and can now finally grow like he was supposed to 6 years ago.

  52. @johngaltwho he is still better than you. the only record you hold is Madden. Alex may not be the “best” by your standards but my standard is winning. Alex is not interchangeable and he is a major reason we are winning. There is more than one way to skin a cat. 20-6 is Alex record under Jim. It’s working in SF and I wouldn’t change Alex for anyone.

  53. I hate to interrupt this CF with some factual data but after reviewing the play in question , I believe the ball was passed forward.

  54. lionsdraftguy says: Oct 30, 2012 8:19 PM

    No ones like the 49ers, what an embarrassment to the NFL.

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    Oh man, this is the funniest thing I have read on the boards in a long time.

    Just don’t stomp on my arm while I’m here on the ground laughing.

  55. Not really important, but I’d like to remind folks that the greatest completion % in history was Tom Brady’s 26-28 (92.5%) against the Jags in a 2008 Playoff game.

    Cheers, BostonTim

  56. No mention of Brady’s 26 of 28 against the Jaguars in the playoffs in2008. 92.9%. The best ever including playoffs. Just sayin.

  57. I still don’t get all the Alex Smith haters. As a 9ers fan I was never wowed by his abilities, but he is smart and appears to be a good guy. I can understand not thinking he’s great or not caring, but I just am confused by all the hate.

  58. And as an aside, I love the hypocracy in the comments. He’s not a good QB b/c he throws to open receivers but when Cutler, Romo, etc. throw 5 ints trying to force the football they are terrible too.
    Checking down to open WRs is what a lot of Great QBs have done: Brady, Montana, Young, etc all threw short routes to open the deep ones.
    As for what Harbaugh is doing, A. who cares, did anyone know that Warner had the record? B. how is this a bad thing, Smith doesn’t care (or says he doesn’t care) about stats, but if the coach thinks that the NFL mistakenly labeled a forward pass as a lateral, and the difference is an all time record, why not ask for a review? If it was a lateral, no harm no foul but if it is, then Smith can add that to an already bizarre and unique career.

    PS. I realize some commentors are normal, but the majority only spew hate, and to hate a guy who is smart, gracious and not: an abuser, rapist, cheater (on wife or the game) or a dog killer, seems a bit odd. Save the hate for guys who are bad off the field rather than above average on it and great off it.

  59. Alex Smith’s stat line is the most deceptive line I’ve seen in history. 90% of his throws were under 10 yards. Great, he can throw a five yard out; give the guy a cigar.

    I’m just glad he managed to finally become an average QB before his 50th birthday. A lot of QBs who are no longer in the league wish their teams had as much patience with them as the 49ers had with Smith.

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    If it was as easy at throwing 5-10 yard passes, why is that out of the 10,000’s of games that have been played it hasn’t already been done 10 fold.

    Sure was deceptive in the 24-3 beating.

  60. Man, Jim Harbaugh must be really jealous of Rex Ryan status as most hated coach in the league, because he’s been trying very hard to change that.

  61. @vikingsrdue

    Great line about Brees “parading around”. How fitting seeing what city he represents. Pink leotards, baton and an occupy mask…I got a laugh. But I do hope they rebound, fun team to watch and he is a class act.

  62. If Harbaugh wanted Alex Smith to have 20 pass attempts, he should have called one extra pass play.

  63. I’m not sure Alex Smith made even one semi-difficult throw in this game. If anything, he must have broken the record for most 3 yard passes in a single game.

  64. Everybody thought Rex Ryan was the next great thing once too. Then he started playing the schedule of a team that made the playoffs instead of last place schedule and drafting his own players. Look at him now. The jury is out on JH however he does seem to bitch and moan a lot during the game just like his brother.

    As far as Alex Smith goes, give the kid a break, he deserves one, if it was a forward pass, count it.

  65. Worth repeating for all the bitter loser Niner-haters who wish they were rooting for a team as good as the 49ers:

    “Since Harbaugh took over and including playoffs…34TDs, 10INTs, 20 Wins and 6 Losses. Dude…at least make sense.”

    And, live with that, you bitter losers.

    Unless the quarterback you root for has more than 20 wins in the last season and a half, you all need to shut your gobs. The Niners are 6-2. Haters: does your team have a record that good? If not, shut your gobs. The only fans who have a right to slam the Niners are fans of the Vikings and Giants. The rest of you need to check yourselves.

  66. @afon17 yes Alex got 2TD and did not turn the ball over and that’s all he had to do for our team to get to the SB. Why is that so hard for you to understand? If you think not turning the ball is over is easy check out Vick. When Alex is smart and efficient we win. If its not there on third down throw it away. The giants did a great job getting 2 special team turn overs that led to 10 points. We have a winning formula its working and it is because of Alex. McMahon with the 85 Bares stats sucked. He only had 2392 yards 15TD 11Int. It’s a team game not Fantasy Football.

  67. Yes let’s all remember that Mike Single-cell was “not impressed with Willis” and had he been in charge of the draft that season, the best LB in the league would be playing somewhere else. Singletary was an awful head coach. Get that fact straight. The only thing he built was an idiotic hill at the training facility that was removed along with the stench of his crappy coaching.

  68. There it is……the moment we all realize that this team will not truly contend for the Superbowl. 2 months early notice

  69. Excuse me if I’m wrong buh every QB under Jim has great stats because he’s a QB specialist. And Singletary built that defense with the exception of a few players. Jim is a good coach just gets more credit than he should.

  70. Coach Harbaugh is obviously trying to put all the attention on himself because he doesn’t want the team distracted by all nonsense the media creates.

  71. vikingsrdue says: Oct 30, 2012 6:11 PM

    The stat obsession in todays NFL(and sports overall) drives me nuts. Who cares about records, its all about W’s and L’s. Like Brees parading around with the touchdown record on a losing team, or Cam Newton being called a Franchise QB because of a whole lot of garbage time yards.
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    During the years Brees has been busy setting the touchdown record, the Saints have been the winningest franchise in the NFL, genius.

    And speaking of “obsession,” when do you and other Viking fans plan to get off your therapist’s couch and accept the fact that you lost the NFC Championship game in 2009?

  72. I actually went back and watched the game. The play in question was definitely a forward pass the ball traveled a full yard forward so this should be changed and Smith should have the record. They did it for Berger in a game where no records were set, for no apparent reason other than he had no TD passes in the game. Whoever wrote the article should have looked at the play before they wrote that the score keeper got it right.

  73. billb49 says:
    Oct 30, 2012 11:06 PM
    Worth repeating for all the bitter loser Niner-haters who wish they were rooting for a team as good as the 49ers:

    “Since Harbaugh took over and including playoffs…34TDs, 10INTs, 20 Wins and 6 Losses. Dude…at least make sense.”

    And, live with that, you bitter losers.

    Unless the quarterback you root for has more than 20 wins in the last season and a half, you all need to shut your gobs. The Niners are 6-2. Haters: does your team have a record that good? If not, shut your gobs. The only fans who have a right to slam the Niners are fans of the Vikings and Giants. The rest of you need to check yourselves.

    You do realize that living in a city or following a team that happens to have a winning records does absolutely nothing to make you better than anyone else, right? Never understood this “we” mentality when it comes to sports. When I see you running around the field actually doing something then you can talk. Till then shut YOUR gob and worry about yourself.

  74. Bottom line is that Smith is doing a fantastic job. His stats show it, and the team’s record shows it. I just love the Smith bashers who are obviously not very educated. So if winning a super bowl is the only qualification for being a great QB, I guess we can throw a lot of HOF’ers out the window, right? Marino? Obvious loser since he has no rings, right?… You guys crack me up. Smith is doing a great job and continues to grow now that he finally has some stability and a great coach behind him. I really hope they win the super bowl to shut you guys up 😛

  75. Harbaugh is just trying to show his QB some support. I don’t see what the big deal is. It is what a good coach does.
    And, i’m no 49er fan.
    Looked like a lateral to me, but then what do i know, the music city miracle looked like a forward pass.

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