Three former FCC Commissioners claim Redskins name is “indecent”

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The attack on the Redskins’ name continues in Washington.

According to Politico.com, three former FCC Commissioners (along with others) have sent a letter to Redskins owner Daniel Snyder explaining that a case could be made that the team’s name is indecent.

“It is impermissible under law that the FCC would condone, or that broadcasters would use, obscene pornographic language on live television,” states the letter signed in part by former FCC Chairman Reed Hunt and former Commissioners Jonathan Adelstein and Nicholas Johnson.  “This medium uses government-owned airwaves in exchange for an understanding that it will promote the public interest.  Similarly, it is inappropriate for broadcasters to use racial epithets as part of normal, everyday reporting.”

The letter never uses the term “Redskins.”

“XXXskin is the most derogatory name a Native American can be called.  It is an unequivocal racial slur,” the letter states.  “As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”

The problem with a potential indecency case is that the United States Supreme Court ruled last year that the FCC’s current rules on indecency violate due process by failing to let over-the-air broadcasters know the rules with specificity.  The FCC is still trying to determine how to proceed in the wake of that ruling.

The Redskins have shown no inclination to change the team’s name. In recent weeks, they have defended the name by pointing out that 70 high schools use the same name.  CNSMaryland.org recently did the legwork, determining that the real number is 62 — and that 28 high schools in 18 states have dropped the name over the last 25 years.

The only number that matters for the NFL is one, and the controversy regarding the team’s name likely will continue for as long as the name remains in place.

289 responses to “Three former FCC Commissioners claim Redskins name is “indecent”

  1. EVERYTHING about the Redskins is indecent! They are a HORRIBLE organization!

  2. It is neither obscene nor pornographic (I know that when I see it), but it is incredibly insensitive in this day and age. Don’t they know how much money they would rake in on new merchandising if they changed the name?

  3. Just dump the name. What are the fans going to do, stop watching football? Yeah, like someone who actually cares enough to get angry over that is going to read a book or volunteer at a homeless shelter sunday afternoon instead.

  4. The Washington Negros or how about the Washington Crackers? My point is the name is offensive and should be changed.

  5. The only thing indecent about the Redskins are their suddenly chest thumping fans coming out of the woodwork

  6. Wow … This ratchets things up a serious notch or two. Safe to say, the odds of the Redskins changing their name just shifted a bit in Vegas.

  7. “…the controversy regarding the team’s name likely will continue for as long as the name remains in place.”

    “…the paint will continue to flake for as long as no one does anything about the paint flaking.”

  8. Don’t our government officials have anything better to do with their time? And do we really need 3 of them to work on a letter that one of them surely could have completed?

  9. AGREED!! If it were the blackskins or darkskins Rev. Al & Jessie Jackson would be screaming RACISM from every rooftop. But when it comes to Native Americans, everyone ignores the Redskins, Chiefs, Braves, Indians…

    It’s WRONG!! Stop using team names that are slurs for races of people!!!

  10. Oh Please…people give it a friggin break! This politically correct punk socieity we’re becoming is getting down right sickening…

  11. The only number that matters for the NFL is one, and the controversy regarding the team’s name likely will continue for as long as the name remains in place.”

    There is no controversy, or anything about the name. Noone cares except 5 left wing dbag journalists who hump this story into the ground. this is your chance though to use your journalism to effect “change”, positive in your mind….I wonder if you even contemplate at all that once you write stories with a specific outcome in mind, and to convince people to agree with your side, you are no longer producing journalism you are producing propaganda.

  12. This is just a stupid issue…and we can only guess who the source of all the angst it.

    If the Indian/Native American community wants it gone all they have to do is speak up and say how offended they are. Call a press conference, have representatives from a host of tribes/nations…and let those of true Redskin descent tell everyone in public they want the name to go away and that would probably be the end of it pretty quick.

    But the objections doesn’t seem to be coming from any tribe, it seems to be coming from some thought police trying to dictate how people should be thinking.

    Haven’t they hunked up enough stuff in society?

  13. “XXXskin is the most derogatory name a Native American can be called. It is an unequivocal racial slur,” the letter states. “As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”

    This is 100% correct and is the reason why the name should be changed. People will post on here about how others are too sensitive and how it wouldn’t help anything to change the name. The point is that the name should be changed because it’s the simple, decent thing to do.

  14. I never knew it was offesive until I read about it in the paper. If anything I would think Indians would be protesting at the stadium everygame. As a season ticket owner I’ve never seen it. So what is the real problem hear?

    We should start a pettition to change the Giants name to the “Snitches”. The Cowboys should be the “Cowgirls” I mean where does it end?

  15. Its Redskins and if it were Blackskins or Brownskins Id say leave it too…people are too sensitive its a football team not a hate group.

  16. Please give this a break! Who cares what these guys say? Really. The name is a tribute not a slam. Do you think the Dolphins are upset? How about steel workers? Gold miners (49ers)?

  17. What kind of bullcrap is this? Lets basically threaten Synyder because we dont like the name. If they van use the force of the govt to change a name because of yhe voice of a vocal few then we all should be very scared. This literally is the PC police. We are living in a obamanation and this is just another example of it…

  18. No need to change the name, just the logo photograph. Instead of a Native American, change it to a shelled redskin peanut. Politically correct and delicious at the same time.

  19. Mike your really want this site to be liberal politics talk dont you

    All this gay stuff and redskin name is offensive and collusions cases, pro-union bs has to go man.

    We only want FOOTBALL NEWS not your left wing agenda.

    Damn this country is screwed we now have the leftist invading our sports news like have control of 99% of the media is not enough.

  20. What’s funny is how white people say that Native Americans don’t object to the name, as their rock-solid defense for keeping the “Redskin” name.

    Majority Native Americans don’t oppose the name because they know even if 100% polled against it, nothing would change anyway, and if it did, people would make them the villains and they’d get all the blame for the end of the “Redskins”.

  21. “As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”

    This hits the nail on the head. No way in heck Harlem Blackskins would be ok, why the double-standard? Skins name is derogatory in it’s meaning, proponents play it off like it isn’t but you know it is.

    Just change it to Braves or Warriors or any of another 100 strong powerful Native American inspired names, but without the racist historical connotation.

  22. If someone named them the white-skins or the black-skins, surely it’d be other races that were jealous their color wasn’t made the team mascot.

    A mascot is a symbolic figure representing pride and power and any group should be honored to be represented by an NFL team.

  23. Thank you FCC my family is half Indian and we have even offended for many years. We even boycotted American sports in our homes.

  24. Thank you FCC my family is half Indian and we have been offended for many years. We even boycotted American sports in our homes.

  25. Well as a man of Irish descent, I find Notre Dame’s “Fighting Irish” moniker to be offensive. Where is my army? Oh, I’m white. I don’t get one.

    To the person above saying “Braves” and “Chiefs” are derogatory, that is absurd. Those names are a tribute, not slurs.

  26. Im fairly certain if a team was created called the “Rednecks” which is also a racial slur it wouldnt be met with such opposition, I actually believe it would be embraced. What if they are called the redskins because of the red warpaint many eastern tribes would damn into battle? The Redskins are a storied franchise with such a rich vibrant history, all these pollitically correct mindsets are borderline absurd. Instead of opposing the name why not embrace it? Its the Washington Redskins for crying out loud! A FEARSOME NOBLE WARRIOR! I respect the redskin logo and its history personally

  27. This day and age, it’s also indecent to refer to people as midgets and giants. Hey Mike, why don’t you tell New York they need to change their name to the New York Big People.

  28. Well, I was on the fence before but now that I know the FCC hates it…I think they should keep the name.

    The FCC is the poster child for the awful nanny-state we’ve become.

  29. It may not be intended to be an ongoing derogatory comment but it is apparently felt by many to be just that. As long as there is that sentiment and the press continues to promote the change in name issue, it will continue to be a thorn in the side of the Franchise.

    My vote is change the name. What name would be another discussion.

  30. And I’ll bet anyone with Viking heritage is offended by their namesake. What about the Meat Packing Co. workforce in Wisconsin having a team named after them in the Packers. Ban ’em! Ban ’em all!

  31. There are derogatory names for EVERY race and culture. That doesn’t mean that they should be used as team names. I mean, how many people are going to be fans of the “Pittsburgh Polacks” or the “Washington Wetbacks”? Sorry, but they people saying “give it a rest” would be upset if it was THEIR culture or race that was being singled out.

  32. I am not a Redskin fan but Hail to Redskins is great. However the name has to go. It is beyond belief that anyone thinks otherwise.
    Like a lot of things it will be done but the sooner the better.

  33. 1) Ranting about “gubment” officials on here is very entertaining because it’s so ignorant. Signing on to a letter doesn’t mean 3 commissioners worked on it. Smart young people draft those letters, old entitled people put their names (and apparently gravitas) to it.

    2) Whether or not the term “Redskins” is a slur, offensive or indecent is a settled issue. It is all of those, according to every social measure and standard we have in the US.

    3) The healthiest debate to have is what the process should be to change the name. Even the almighty NFL has a weakness when it comes to labor laws. Starting there and following up with this FCC approach (put the pressure on the NFL’s broadcasting partners) would eventually work.

  34. Apparently the only solution for Florio would be for the Redskins to change their team name to the Utopians and then replace all the players with openly gay players that love to gossip about one another. That way there is something to fill the “story” void left behind by these two events happening.

  35. Sorry……I just don’t think that the “Washington Native Americans” sounds good!

  36. Don’t ever change the name. The name is unique in that it is one of the few names with a lot of meaning. It reminds us of where we have been and where we are going as Americans. If a large coalition of Native American groups emerge that tries to force a name change based on the grounds of racism I will support them. However, I will not support whiny PC politicians who are using this issue to grandstand. When Natives are passionate about forcing a name change, I will support them as I think they’ve earned that right, but not a moment before.

    If you want to change the name so badly do it the right way and build a coalition for change organically. Don’t use governmental powers to force the change. It is not such an egregious name that the government needs to be steeled to action. Let people force the Skins to change it. If the support is there it will happen.

    I might be on the wrong side of history on this as the name is rooted in hate and bigotry, no doubt, but now it is a sign of respect and reverence. Let natives force the change if they want it. The FCC is the last governmental body I want to see forcing change as they need a major structural and policy overhaul themselves.

  37. Is it really a good defense to point to children and say “If they can do it why can’t we”?

    You know what else teenagers think is a good idea? Justin Bieber and Kesha.

    Find a better defense.

  38. They have used the redskin name since 1932 but now in 2013 it has become offensive? It makes no sense to me.

    No team would choose a mascot name that they didn’t hold in high regard and respect. Get over it and move on to more pressing things like if a player was asked “if he likes girls”.

    Give me a frickin’ break. What is happening to America anyway.

  39. The Chiefs, Braves, etc are great names. They are powerful, strong, positive names. No one but the wacky fringe has a problem with those.

    I hate the PC, race-baiting stuff that goes on but this is apples and oranges….this is straight-up racist. We’ve been desensitized to true racism by these race-baiting crooks out there.

  40. How about eliminating the whole system of racism/white supremacy completely? This way we won’t have to deal with its weeds when we kill the roots!

  41. “It was first used by Native Americans during the 1800s as a way of distinguishing themselves from the ever-growing white population”

  42. People seem to be missing the point…it has nothing to do with honoring Native Americans or even using them as the subject of the team name. The problem is with the word “Redskins.” It is derogatory. The examples people are giving (e.g., “Fighting Irish,” “49ers,” etc.) are fine because they are referring to a group WITHOUT being derogatory. Being Irish, there is a certain slur that is used to refer to people of Irish descent that I would not feel comfortable using in a team name like Notre Dame…please recognize the difference between referring to a group in general, and referring to a group using derogatory and offensive language. There is a REAL difference here and it is wrong. I am a huge football fan and this goes beyond “storied franchises” and touches on common human decency.

  43. The problem lies with the fact that the Washington Redskins brand is the fifth most profitable team IN THE WORLD.

    It is a long and regressive process to re-brand your investment when it is as popular as it is.

  44. Give me a freaking break… The FCC that OKs everything on Jerry Springer and all the garbage on TV…. you must be freaking kidding…. tell them to watch Equestrian jumping or something, and understand football is one of the most excepting and multi-cultural binding activities in the World…

  45. I like how an earlier post stated that the word Chief and Indian are racial slurs. Huh? We should just call them the Washington Filibusters then.

  46. george washington was a slave owner, when you people start throwing your one dollar bills in the trash than the REDSKINS will change there name

  47. “XXXskin is the most derogatory name a Native American can be called. It is an unequivocal racial slur,” the letter states. “As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”
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    Hypocrites. They refused to use the term “Redskins” because they view it as racist. Then, to prove their point, they compare it to other terms they view as racist but have no problem whatsoever listing them.

  48. Well change redskins name as soon as the Yankees, savage firearms, and all of the usa armed forces product named after American Indians. This is nothing more then politicians wanting to make their name known.

  49. Let me get this straight…

    – The economy is in the dumper
    – We’re about to go to war with North Korea
    – The Eurozone is trashed

    And, these three gentlemen have time to focus on this point?

    Really?

  50. Most derogatory? I can think of worse for Native Americans…

    If Washington has to change there name, so do the Cowboys, Raiders, Buccaneers and Vikings…. Not all white people are plunderers or pillagers.

    And lately, not all are Patriots either.

  51. “Relocate” them to some godforsaken lifeless uninhabited patch of land in the badlands of South Dakota. For as long as the grass shall grow, and as long as the rivers shall flow.

  52. Thumbs up if you only read this article to see what logicalvoicesays’ comment would be…

  53. The Redskins have been around since the 30’s. They’ve been around so long that the name has no meaning and applies just the franchise itself.

    In fact, it does the best service you can do with a “derogatory” word: strip it of it’s original meaning and redefine it. If I say use the phrase Redskin, you’re going to assume I’m talking about a NFL football player, and not an American Indian.

  54. Change the name already-just think of the remaining fans will have to buy up new “stuff” with the new name and logo. All the upset fans will eventually return if the team is winning and it all can spun into a PR win.

  55. For those hoping the franchise will be going anywhere, your gonna be waiting(hating) a long time!! We have lost for long time and now when looks as though we may be winning for long time, people coming from everywhere to attack!! SMH!! People!! Hail.. Just Hail!!

  56. A sports team that benefits from the use of public funds and the use of public airways shouldn’t have a name that offends anyone, especially a name based on race, and even more so a race that this country all but practically exterminated.

    The capitol of the US having a team called the “Redskins” is akin to Berlin having a soccer team called the “Holocaust”. It needs to be changed.

    This shouldn’t even be a debate.

  57. @kingmj4891 couldn’t have said it better. Lets talk football!
    @jam3sxc you are full of it!! If you have boycotted American sports why are you on this site?

  58. ok look, the washington redskins name has been around since the 1930’s. before that they were the braves. they were named to HONOR native americans, to glorify their warrior spirit, the whole northern VA area was covered with natives as well so its only fitting to keep the name intact. not to mention the first washington redskins coach was a native american guy and they actually gave the team the name “redskins” in his honor. if it wasnt offensive back then, then it shouldnt be offensive now. when have you ever heard anyone use the word “redskin” to out down a native american? i understand that in a very specific time frame, in a very specific region they used the word as a racial term and would scalp the natives, i understand the racist and homicidal history between the whiteys and natives but all that has nothing to do with a FOOTBALL team. if you went from reservation to reservation, state to state and did a poll i garuntee you that an overwhelming majority wouldnt just be OK with the name but HONORED and even though theyd never been to DC they are fans of the team. so lets stop, as a liberal white yuppy media, making this an issue, as if we are standing up for those who dont have a voice? are you dealing with some rich white guilt issues? keep it real, the name redskins is not the equivalent to “blackskins” or “yellowskins”. there are a few small groups who actually are offended, sorry bout that but this is 2013, grow some balls and deal with it, the name, the colors, the emblem arent going anywhere.

  59. Shut up guilty liberals.

    The word Oklahoma in Choctaw literally means “the land of the red man”.

  60. As a Native American, the team name doesn’t offend me. But referencing Redskin potatoes in my presence, on the other hand, chaps my ass.

    I get so mad my face turns red!

  61. Funny thing about political correctness. Maybe it’s just me but when I’m on the fence about an issue and the government or any other group tries to shove their opinion down my throat I have a tendancy to take the opposite position.

  62. they should instead change their team logo to a potato and call themselves the washington redskins.

    redskin potato.

    change an image of an indian harvesting the land and say they are celebrating our nation’s history of argiculture. it would be cool if the indian in the picture was smoking a cigarette and giving you the finger, too.

  63. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when you really need them. If the team name in any way, shape, or form “offended” African Americans you can bet your bottem dollar they would be there screaming to the heavens for a name change. But since a large portion of their fan base in Wash DC / PG County is black and not bothered by. These hippocrits wont touch it.

    Do the right thing Snyder

  64. @tampajoey2 says: Apr 5, 2013 4:15 PM

    Fine… change their name to Lazy Drunken Native Americans.
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    I’m sick to my stomach that I’m on your side regarding this one issue. More importantly I’m sad for my country that people like you can vote. It makes me wonder sometimes about democracy; thank God the founders realized this and didn’t create a nation governed solely by democracy and instead created a complex system that checks the power of the people – people like you are dangerous with power and don’t deserve it. Some of us actually base our decisions and logic and reason and not outdated stereotypes and hate.

  65. FCC…now there is a prime candidate for an agency that needs to be contracted due to lack of $$. What is the purpose of this agency? To fine stations when players blurt out profanities during games? Dumb. Let’s join the 21st century with the rest of the world and open up TV and radio to whatever goes. Put the responsibility where it belongs on parents to police their kids.

    You’re welcome fellow Americans. I just saved us billions.

  66. Like it or not, the Redskins will eventually change their names. Especially if the FCC blocks from airing any games.

  67. You are going to quote obscene pornographic language and talk about a team name that is indecent. All while writing about gay players too. What insulting term is used towards gay men? Packers. Are you going to ask them to change their name too? And before you say it’s apples and oranges because of origin, the name Redskins has nothing to do with race. The term originated because native Americans would paint themselves in red paint. The red paint was a sign of strength and courage, hence why is was used for a football team. The British wore red coats, native Americans wore red paint. Do you consider red coat a derogatory name too? In my 38 years, the only time I have ever heard, said, read the term Redskins was when talking about the Washington Redskins.

  68. Anyone that doesn’t think there is anything wrong with the name “redskin” , has some major, major issues. to think the NFL would allow this is beyond insensitive, it is unnecessarily and blatantly disrespectful and wrong. No Excuses, just plain wrong

  69. I have nothing against Native Americans (and I doubt anyone does really) And I am not really sure how to word this and may come off sounding odd… But if the NFL Washington Redskins drop the “Redskins” name, Indian’s will soon never ever be talked about or mentioned again in a positive manner. Tonto and Washington kept them relevant. The Original Lone Ranger is gone, as soon as the Non-Indian self righteous wackos who think they know what’s best for everyone gets rid of this name, we will no longer have any positive icons representative of the Native American People. Unless you like Casinos… And I doubt Johnny Depp does them any good.

  70. I think both sides may have some valid concerns. On one side you have of group of people who feel they are being racially insulted. As someone who is white living in Canada, I can’t say I know how that feels. I know what it feels like to be offended though, its not a great feeling. On the other side you have fans of the team/owners of the team who likely don’t intend to offend anyone with the name but would also feel a bit hurt if the name changed. Spending hard earned money on merchandise already bought and memories of cheering for a certain name isn’t all the easy to remove for fans. I’m not sure what the term “Redskin” means to be honest, nor am I sure what the right thing to do here is, but I do feel there is two sides to the story here and hope it ends well for everyone.

  71. @paulitik74 says: Apr 5, 2013 4:27 PM

    A sports team that benefits from the use of public funds and the use of public airways shouldn’t have a name that offends anyone, especially a name based on race, and even more so a race that this country all but practically exterminated.

    The capitol of the US having a team called the “Redskins” is akin to Berlin having a soccer team called the “Holocaust”. It needs to be changed.

    This shouldn’t even be a debate.
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    It’s a great point and I battled with this issue myself and still do. However, the name reminds us of what was done and how things have changed. The cliche team names are useless, but this name serves a purpose. You see the responses of these meat-heads? This debate, and the articles related to it, may be the only way they learn about the natives. If that’s the case then the name is well worth it, even if they are only capable of dismissing legitimate concern as ‘liberal whining’. For such “independent thinkers” they all certainly seem to have the same comments.

  72. How about just get rid of the Redskins all together?

  73. I just witnessed the Univ. of ND go through this same battle, losing the Fighting Sioux nickname. Nothing degrading, in fact it promotes attention to the heritage of a lost culture.

    Despite winning numerous NCAA hockey championships and a multitude of success in other sports, unfortunately a lot of it comes down to money. I guess paying homage to the people and giving Native Americans 100% tuitions to UND wasn’t enough.

    This is just the beginning of the end of the ‘Redskins’.

  74. If a name change is going to happen (and I personally believe that it is only a matter of when), I suppose the direction that meets halfway between the fans and the butthurt ballyhooers is to change it to the name of a particular mid-atlantic indian tribe.

    After all, no one seems to be too bothered by the Florida State Seminoles, or Illinois Fighting Illini, or Chicago Blackhawks.

    Washington Algonquians? Virginia Monacans? Its better than a generic name like
    Warriors or something like that.

    Washington Witch Doctors would be awesome, but chiropractors would claim it is insensitive to them.

  75. I know the name will always be the “Washington Redskins” I also believe that Snyder will do something for the Native Americans to get over this and understand using the name is not to offend anyone and I think all will work itself out and all will be just great.

  76. For those commenting that people are too sensitive, perhaps you’d feel differently if you were the one who was attacked by the term “Redskin” Just because you’re not offended by it, doesn’t mean it isn’t offensive, and doesn’t mean that others arent.

    Some people seem to think that racism is gone in this country. I used to be one of them, until my eyes were opened by a number of friends of mine who turned out to be racists. I was shocked. They seemed like the nicest people.

    Racism is still very prevalent, it’s just that its no longer seen as socially acceptable so it has gone underground.

    I think the Redskins should get together with the Native American tribes and find a compromise name that honors them as warriors with dignity. Perhaps the tribes could even take part in the festivities on game day – which would create a great atmosphere and great new traditions.

    Oh, and Dan Synder could sell new merchandise which would make him more $$$.

    Perhaps he could even use that $$$ to fix the turf

  77. Easy they just need to change it something that the city can identify with. Lying Lazy cheating congressman! They could have a great fight song to replace HTTR with something like FAIL to the Lying Lazy Cheating Congressman!

  78. The interesting thing about this debate is that there is never (or possibly rarely) a Native American group behind it. I would say that the majority of Native Americans’ don’t care about the name, it is the name of a football team, that is it, nothing more, nothing less, If Native Americans’ are not offended by the name, why should anybody else be?

  79. For people arguing that the name shouldn’t be changed because it is a legacy name from the 30s when the team moved to DC from Boston, you might want to know that the ownership of the Redskins were notoriously racist all the way through the 60s. The team was one of the last professional sports franchises to allow African American players.

    The history of this team is littered with hatred and bigotry. Sorry, it needs to change and changing the name is literally the least they can do.

  80. Snyder thought a picture of him with scribbled horns and a mustache (aka the Devil) was anti-semitic, but he doesn’t see why anyone should be offended by the name “Redskins”?

    LOL, Snyder is trash – but I already knew that.

  81. Two things I find very interesting is every article I read that states how offensive the name is uses it 10+ times in the article. I think these writers owe Native Americans an apology for themselves slurring Native Americans. If it is offensive, stop using it.

    Secondly, three former FCC Chairmen said that it is not permissible under law. Weren’t they in charge of the FCC during this time? Do we need to ask them why they allowed the law to be broken? I think that all three of them must have been derelict in their duties then. Because this name has been used for NFL broadcasts, news, local and national sports broadcasts for decades.

    Personally, the name does not bother me and I am not sure about how bad it is. I just find it interesting that the journalists that are trying to make a point that it is bad, are using it themselves. Guess they live by the do as I say not as I do mentality.

  82. Nothing but political crap. Making the case that the Redskins name is pornographic or obscene is completely and utterly absurd on two levels. First, no common sense person believes that is actually true (even if some small group is actually offended, that doesn’t make it “obscene.”). Secondly, even if we accept that name is an obscenity, that does not mean the FCC has any authority to get them to change the name. There are obscenities on broadcast TV all the time. Something being an obscenity (which as I said is ridiculous n this case) does not make it pornographic. The FCC allows plenty of offensive and explicit terms on TV (just watch any cop show). Getting judges to agree that “Redskins” is worse than those would be a tough sell. This is more about PFT’s obsession with this non-issue.

  83. What’s really indecent is when a commentator informs me that “Redskins squeeze out Browns”. Now that’s just sick…

  84. there are high schools in our state on Indian reservations who use mascot names like that for their schools…… and they say nothing??????????

  85. I think Washington Foreskins is appropriate, accurate and provides a nod to their history as the ‘skins.

  86. It’s a slur same as if there was an NFL team called The Blackskins. Bottom line it is the 21st century and the name is unacceptable.

  87. As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here

    Which is why Mike Wise is an idiot who has completely missed the point.

    At no point in history, even prior to the civil rights movement, has a sports team been given a name that is a pejorative.

    The simple fact that it was so widely used as a team name suggests that this wasn’t one weirdo who thought, “I know I’ll use an ethnic slur for a team name. Something that connotes weakness”.

    Even the Washington Generals, a team which is solely there to embarrased, was spared a pejorative name.

    Team names are chosen to connote positive characteristics, the Redskins name was chosen in the same vein.

  88. I think that the organization isn’t intending to be racist with the name. I think that most teams that choose native american mascots are trying to pay tribute to the proud warrior classes that existed as a part of their cultures far back in the history of this land. Native american warriors were badasses. So were vikings and so are lions and tigers. That is why they pick them. 100 years from now there will be zero teams picking “uppity progressive caucasian that speaks up for minorities on trivial mascot issues” as their mascot, and for good reason.

    For that reason I don’t see this stuff quite as “racist” as nutty progressive folk. I also see about 100 short, chubby, intellectual caucasian females complain about native americal mascots for every one native american. Seriously why is it that well-to-do white liberals are obsessed with “racism”.

    If not for high school history classes and team mascots 95% of our society wouldn’t even be aware of native americans. They’ve been ground practically out of existence. Really a team mascot that celebrates their history, even if it is in a cartoonish or irrelevant way or mildly racist way, is better than simply nothing at all.

  89. God, I will never forget the Stanford football games that my dad took me to. I had Stanford Indian stuff all over my room, they always had the best teams in college football. Then the liberals attacked, changed the name to the Cardinals. The program fell apart for years after that. I never went to a Cardinal game.

    By the way, I am part American Indian. You can call me Redskin, Indian, Native American….. Who cares, I take no offense when a team is named this way.

    Just give me my damn land back, and pay damages for the hundred of thousands of Native Americans that were killed since the Mayflower landed, and the battle of wounded knee.

    Ok, I know indians will never get their land back, we know this. But stop pretending that you are protecting Native Americans by forcing a football team to change it’s name.

    Actually, I hate the Redskins, the football team, but the name is a sense of pride to me.

    Leave it alone.

    Go Custer.

  90. Does the pandering EVER stop? This is America. There are many rights one has by being here, but an inherint ‘right’ to never being “offended” is NOT one of them. Get over it already!

  91. The University of North Dakota used to be called the Fighting Sioux. Not anymore. It was voted in 2012 to not use that name anymore. Now they have no mascot at all until they’re allowed to chose a new one in 2015. No point really, just thought it was sort of interesting that they aren’t allowed to choose another name for 3yrs.

  92. Actually, in the connotation it’s being used in, it means fierce warriors. Fight us at your peril. If they have a problem with that, whatever, get over it.

    But, the way they’ve played maybe Squaws fits better?

  93. Those using the “we wouldn’t stand for Blackskins” argument, wouldn’t the network called Black Entertainment Television be equally offensive?

  94. This liberal/commie push is endless.

    Real Info:

    Marriage = Man and Woman, anything else is made up. Sorry but true.

    Redskins = Been around here for what 60 years or more? Everyone still okay? Check. Plenty of American Indians love it? Check. Liberals with nothing to do? Check.

    Send liberals to other parts of the world that need their help. (Course, they will send em back if they don’t kill em first).

  95. These three stooges have no idea what they are talking about and should mind there own business. Who really cares what they have to say. It’s time to get rid of “Political Correctness” and get back to life the way it was 30 or more years ago.

  96. It’s really a shame, we don’t have teams such as the Albuquerque Wetbacks, Birmingham Bluegums, SoCal Gooks, or even the Huntington Crackers.

    Those who say people aren’t offended by redskins are clueless. You can down vote all you want, but the amount of ignorance in these comments is laughable.

  97. The Redskins team and its name stays!!!!!! It is a great franchise with a long winning traditiion. For those of YOU that don’t like it stick some Preparation H where it will help you the most. Yes!!!!

  98. Seems that most of the whiners are white. Native Americans don’t mind the name. Is it a white guilt issue?

  99. I still don’t understand it. I live near a casino and have come to know more than a few “Native Americans” and although its a very small sample size, all of them laugh at this subject. They think its dumb that anyone would be offended, least of all themselves.

    Leave to a government official to weigh in on a subject that poses no real problem, nobody asked for their opinion and try to make a big deal out of it. Must be Democrats if they think anyone cares about what they think.

  100. If indians don’t like it, they shouldn’t have gotten owed by blankets.

  101. Bunch of whining little babies people are. I’m a white skin. And if they named a football team after that I think I would be proud and would probably root for them.

  102. I just have one question: does the name Washington Redskins cause you to think of Native Americans in a negative light? If your answer is no, then we don’t have a problem. If your answer is yes, then the problem probably lies with you, not with the name.

  103. where is the native american out cry on this issue? all iv heard from is white guys…..or how about thousands of native american protesters outside the stadium to show people their offended, they have had decades to tackle this issue and even though im only 26, the only place hear this from is non native americans

  104. soon we are going to start having to refer to them as the washington “R” words

  105. Who cares what they are called. They have been non factors in football for 20+ years now. They get into the playoffs because of one guy and now that ahole coach ruined him. That organization is a joke. It all starts t the top

  106. The “deal with it” and “it’s no big deal” responses are a bit shocking. The name is offensive and should have been changed long ago. It’s annoying that it’s even a subject of debate; it’s common sense.

  107. @nineroutsider says: Apr 5, 2013 4:32 PM

    @tampajoey2 says: Apr 5, 2013 4:15 PM

    Fine… change their name to Lazy Drunken Native Americans.
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    I’m sick to my stomach that I’m on your side regarding this one issue. More importantly I’m sad for my country that people like you can vote. It makes me wonder sometimes about democracy; thank God the founders realized this and didn’t create a nation governed solely by democracy and instead created a complex system that checks the power of the people – people like you are dangerous with power and don’t deserve it. Some of us actually base our decisions and logic and reason and not outdated stereotypes and hate.

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    Hey genius (nineroutsider) I was being sarcastic and facetious but I suppose that was lost in your simple mind.

  108. I’ll bet that these former FCC commissioners rooted like mad for the Redskins while they were in that job. But NOW the term is offensive. Right.

  109. Ironic isn’t it that they named the team in honor of their coach. Lone Star Dietz was a Native American and he was okay with it.

  110. U guys are a bunch of cry babies, now we r worried about offending the last 5 native americans on earth? Who cares its always a bunch of SOFT white mike wise liberals that protest on behalf of every other race or lifestyle they dont know anything about. Protest warrant less wire taps and drone killing or something more important libs.

  111. The Redskins logo is the most distinguished visual representation of a Native American in American sport. Compare it with Chief Wahoo… or the Braves’ tomohawk chop. The team was the Boston Braves, then changed to Redskins upon relocation to distinguish from the many other ‘Braves’ teams in other sports.

    Placed in context of so many schools having to surrender their Indian names/ iconography, it begins to look like we just want to pretend the native culture in America never existed.

    The FCC and Dirty Goodell may force the team to change, but as a poster above noted, fans will always call the team the Redskins. All this does is harden opposition.

    Personally, I like the Washington Georges. A president but loved by all Americans, who made his name crossing the Potomac. Just swap out the Redskins profile for the one on the nickel.

    HAIL

  112. Am I the only one who is about to give up on the NFL?

    – Awful rule changes

    – Trying to get women referees on the field

    – Treating breast cancer victims like war heroes. (Why don’t the players wear camouflage for a month instead of pink shoes?)

    – Media masters waiting with baited breath for gay players to “come out”

    It seems the league doesn’t exist to play football any longer. It exists to further the political agenda of media Hebrews.

    Search YouTube for ‘NFL Bounty’ and watch the video from the early 90’s with Buddy Ryan, Jimmy Johnson, and Mike Ditka. Compare the attitude then to the attitude now.

    The NFL is a joke.

  113. If they change the name, will the Redskins…um I mean Native Americans give back the casinos?

    With ALL the problems this country is facing this is a total waste of time.

  114. People not of Native American heritage should not defend the use of the term ‘Redskins.’ Would blacks prefer the use ‘N****rs?’ Or whites prefer the use ‘H****ys?’

    There was a forum on this, where the majority of Native American leaders denounced the use of the term slandering their people. They have been under extreme oppression and cultural/ethnic genocide since the white man came to their country. Their lands were stolen, people killed, languages erased, culture decimated. And yet we continue to use a term that makes them feel less human, because, well we can. What we need to do is the right thing, and change the name. The easiest way to do this is for the FCC to prohibit any television of Redskins games, past and present. The loss of money will drive Snyder to do something.

  115. I like the Washington Potatoes.

    That way they are clearly named after Little Danny Snyder, who is just as buff as a spud.

  116. Never have I seen so many comments in one place from a bunch of people “really not getting it”.

    whaa whaaa I’m 19 years old and don’t think it’s offensive so it’s not! derp herp.

  117. People are idiots!!! I’m a full blooded Indian and I have never thought that being called a redskin was in any way, shape, or for racist! I’m proud to know my skin is red and not some other color!

  118. @kenstabler you are wrong about Stanford. First of all, they didn’t change the name to ‘the cardinals’ they changed the name to “THE Cardinal” – you must not have been a very big fan to not even know the correct name.

    Secondly, the university allowed the student body to vote for a new name, and the students picked ‘The Stanford Robber Barons’ in honor of their name sake (you do realize Stanford was named after a person, and a real SOB at that, don’t you?). The rich old men on the Board of Trustees overrode the democratic selection and picked ‘The Cardinal’.

  119. Blame it on the Italians. When Columbus landed in the Bahamas he thought he was further north, in the D.C area. So he named the local inhabitants XXX Redskins. He grew up with soccer and wasn’t a big American football fan at the time.

  120. The team was founded in Boston and were named after the original Tea Partiers.

    I would guess they called themselves Redskins to mock the British, and maybe to paint them as being ignorant of local issues( ie. tribe names and zero chance of real indian raid).

    The team was not worried about using the name in the 1930’s since American history was still being taught, not the PC guilt trip called education we see today.

  121. This will cure it all. No team names.

    It is just Washington, New York (both the green jersey and the blue, oh well), Green Bay, Oakland, Seattle and so on.

    No more mascots or team names for any team ever. That will fix all and no one will ever be offended ever again. It is only fair. lol

  122. This is stupid. Politcal corectness taken to the absurd. 1st who really cares? I don’t see Indians, excuse me Native Americans, lining up to protest. Most of the noise is coming from white males who have nothing better to do with their time. Get a job!
    Why, all of a sudden, does a team name become an insult. When the Redskins, excuse me Native Americans, won at Little Big Horn, no one was insulted when we referred to the victors as savages, heathens and devils. Get real. Find something worthwhile to get worked up over. Child Porn! Welfare Fraud! Political corruption! The name of a football team, give me a break.

  123. I wonder how many soccer teams on the Indian reservations are named pale face or Custer. Zero.

    By the way Mcpickle, why would you name it The Cardinal (singular) when you have over 7o players?

    Just a thought you liberal idiot.

  124. They sent sent over letter? Thats like the ugly chick in traffic. The only way she can get you to notice her is by almost hitting your car.

  125. So why didn’t they champion this cause when they were “in power.” Easy to jump on the PC bandwagon after the fact. Typical of political creatures…

  126. call me what you will but this whole thing with the redskins and native Americans is more about getting in the press for the American Indians then it is about changing the team’s name because there is nobody out there including American Indians that believe the redskins mean 1 ounce of disrespect with that team name in fact so many players have wore that uniform with pride and the feeling of representing what a real warrior is that it would be disrespectful to that group of people to have it took away from them. racism will never die as long as we allow some stupid word to offend us.to me it is more about HOW something is said more than the chosen words that are used to SAY IT. btw I am not a wash. fan

  127. Liberals are even invading the NFL, to bad, Dan Snyder will never change the name, he was a fan before he was an owner

  128. So “Redskins” is racist but “Redman” tobacco is fine ?

    And how a leprechaun for Notre Dame isn’t racist against Irish people ?

    I bet if where called them the “Washington Rednecks” all the hicks from miles away would go watch them with pride.

    They been called the Redskins for 100 years but now its racist some people have to much time on their hands.

  129. These former FCC Commissioners all need to take a flying leap, and take their PC garbage to hell with them.

  130. The name is racist that’s not even an argument it’s a fact. The question at hand is whether or not people care enough to do something.

  131. I think the name is thoroughly offensive. I’m part Cherokee and part Blackfoot. I watched westerns growing up and I know very well that “redskin” is a slur and so does everyone else.

    There’s just not enough of us to raise Cain as there are gays and blacks, so it goes on.

  132. The bullets changed their name to the freaking Wizards and now everyone hates it and wants to change it back.

    The same crap would happen here. The people that bring this up, and Mike freaking Wise, are complete and total idiots. Oh yeah the same Mike Wise that attributed false lying quotes to that fat radio guy Rush Limbaugh in order to say hes a racist. Yeah let’s all listen to Mike Wise’s opinion when he is willing to use lies to advance his opinions. You would think a journalist would at least check his facts before he aired them, but no. F Mike Wise.

    Mike Wise and Flurio also both voted for Obama twice, which means any opinion they have on politics or current events is about as relevant as the last 20 retards that think George Bush was a great President. If you voted for Obama twice shoot yourself please.

  133. The guy who talks about “media Hebrews” running the NFL gets his comment posted and reasonable comments about the issue get deleted.

    You guys had the right idea suggesting the comments section should be abandoned if this is the kind of nonsense we can continue to expect.

  134. I hate the name too, but the FCC — which has allowed wholesale mergers that have truly threatened the role of the press — should find better windmills to charge on this one.

  135. Mike, Keep it up, and you will lose your readers. There are so many other sights on the web to handle all the offended people in the US. We dont need the Wussification of America hitting sports to. What ever haapened to sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. The one true derogatory term used in the US that should be banned is ” OFFENDED”

  136. theclaim says:
    Apr 5, 2013 5:30 PM
    This debate is RIDICULOUS. Redskins is not derogatory or offensive in any way. I have native American blood and EMBRACED the Skins logo as a symbol of pride. An oppressed people that knowingly fought an un winnable battle. If the team in question was the New York Ni&&ers? I would understand. The Sacramento Sp&cs? The Detroit Da&os, The Seattle Sl&nts. If people want to address offensive team names on the PC basis, the Giants and Titans need to be renamed. Gigantism is a very real disease that effects people on a daily basis. Is this not offensive? The Raiders and Buccaneers and Vikings ALL NEED to change their names as these groups were all associated with murder rape and pillaging as a guideline. I’m pretty sure Cowboys aren’t very well thought of on reservations around the US! Hey how about we REMOVE all reservations? Isn’t THAT INHERENTLY RACIST? Again, I am NOT racist but I am tired of Americans tiptoeing around issues claiming they are too offensive for the masses. Focus on something TANGIBLE like the despairity between the upper and lower classes in the US or the fact that the powers that be manipulate our laws to allow the wealthy to move industry offshore to avoid taxes the REST of us pay? Tired of the WEAK argument against this team name and the rhetoric/propaganda that surrounds it. Ask yourself an honest question, have you EVER in your life heard someone use the term Redskin in. Derogatory manner OTHER than to talk trash about a football team? I’ll be courteous and answer for you. NO you haven’t! It hasn’t been a slur in the US lexicon for WELL over a century. Racism is alive and well. Focus on eliminating that as opposed to a football teams name.

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  137. “suddenly chest thumping fans”? where has this bag been? We’ve been to 5 SB in my life time. This is a proud franchise. Know your history before saying something dumb as usual. Skins have been cheering championship teams, dummy.

  138. I guess politically correct liberals are not done destroying the country. Yet another issue where a minuscule amount of people are making all of the noise. The name is not changing, get over it .

  139. It’s legitimately racist by every definition of the word. Perhaps most surprising is the nation’s capitol, a the city’s named after the father of our country George Washington, went and gave the football team a Native American name? Was that in a treaty somewhere??? Washington Generals has a nice ring to it…

  140. The Navajo reservation has a reservation in NE Arizona, and their high school’s nickname is Redskins. If it’s good for the Navajo, it’s good for me. And what good is all this screaming? For what? You have the Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks, and on and on. If using a nickname that can be applied to a specific minority, then (stupidly), you’d have to get rid of Vikings, 49ers, Raiders, Buccaneers, Fighting Irish, Packers (don’t even go there), Giants, etc.

    See how stupid this gets? Where and how does it end?

  141. Is this the SAME FCC that let Clear Channel buy up all the major stations in this country and ruin radio by eliminating competition and costing hundreds or thousands of radio industry workers their jobs?
    Yea.
    They have cred. Just take a moment and think about a time long ago, when men were naming their sports teams. Do you really think they would have named a team out of disrespect?
    REALLY?
    Redskin is not a basic Indian term. It was saved for the bravest and most honored warriors who went into battle on the front lines.
    They were the most respected and feared of all.
    This is like the 4% of Americans who are atheists driving the Ten Commandments off of the court house walls.
    The FCC commenting on this is a horrible joke after what they have done.
    It would be on the scale of having Ford, Chrysler, Toyota combine into 1 car company today and firing millions.
    I don’t have an agenda.
    I just don’t drink the Kool Aid that we are asked to drink.
    Past FCC dolts are not fit to comment.
    They just do this to keep relevant even though the mess they created with Clear Channel can NEVER be cleaned up.
    They have more blood on their hands then Dan Snyder EVER will.

  142. The FCC is indecent. They are a goon squad of politicians with an agenda and they focus on that one person or group. How in any way shape of form the name REDSKIN indecent? Most words that are indecent are acronyms from hundreds of years ago. For instance Stack High In Transit (SH!T) is what that was meant for. When you were moving poo in ships back in the day you would stck it high simply because of the gas coming off the poop would cause fires, so they stacked it high so the methane couldn’t linger. Fornicating Under Consent of the King, better known as FYOUCK.
    To call the name Redskin indecent is just an exercise in futility. Can’t these jokers in Washington who make a ton of money find something better to do with their time than to be concerned with the name of an NFL franchise? It is truly pathetic. F-the FCC. Completely worthless organization. If you don’t want your children to find out about that name or the derogatory history then don’t teach them. Allow them to live in the dark. But for those of us who know how to move on through life can figure out a way to put a positive spin on the name and move on. The Redskin’s organization consulted tribal leaders before choosing the name and it was approved by the leaders of those tribes. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE ALREADY!!!

    HTTR!!!!

  143. The FCC is indecent. I don’t like pencil necks in suits telling this country what they can and can’t listen to or watch…much less what a team should be named.

    Redskins it is. Redskins it should remain. And for those who are truly threatened or offended by it…grow a set.

  144. Let’s clear some things up.
    1) It is not as simple as just changing the name to the Warriors or something. They want ALL references to Native Americans removed.
    2) The “what if” arguments using names like crackers, darkskins, etc., is lame. Those are intended to be slurs. Redskins is not.
    3) So, taking a word that might have been a slur and making it respectful is wrong?
    4) GPM may have been a racist, but he wasn’t a moron. He would not name the team a racial slur. Really? “My plan is to insult indians by naming my team after them.” Only an idiot would believe he would do that.
    5) I am a season ticket holder. If they change the name I will not buy new gear. I will ALWAYS wear my REDSKIN gear with pride.
    6) Fighting Irish. The “fighting” part comes from their prowess on the battlefield, right?

  145. So the Redskins name is indecent, but it’s ok for our kids to learn about the perils of 4 hour erections during commercial breaks.

    We live is some crazy times.

  146. Huge skins fans and I can honestly say that I don’t like the name and I didn’t like my high school being the “Indians” both offensive terms to the native peoples of the country we now call America

  147. Three former FCC commissioners? Three, really? That’s all you have? Do you know how many former FCC commissioners there are, and only three signed on. I’m not impressed.

  148. Lots of good complaining about liberals and PC and all sorts of other trigger words.

    What the hell is so scary about NOT doing things that offend people?

    Why is it so crucial to have the freedom to be a jerk?

    The fear driving this and all sorts of other themes on PFT is fascinating.

  149. Just change the logo to a Redskin Potato. Then what? The Danny gets the last laugh. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS

  150. I have an opinion, but I’m the 202nd comment, so does anybody really care what I think?

  151. I love this site, check it daily.

    But whenever gay rights or Redskins name comes up, it’s a depressing read.

    Football is HUGE in America. Like it or not it transcends the field.

    Like it or not, a gay player coming out is meaningful to that person, and millions of Americans. How many of us would like to spend our careers hiding a significant part of our lives? As if it were something shameful??

    On the Redskins, it is offensive to modern sensibilities. No expansion team would even float such a name for a millisecond. The only reason it hasn’t changed yet is stubbornness and kowtowing to tradition.

    Bottom line on both issues it seems about 70% of the posters are on the wrong side of history.

  152. so i hate the word ginger and what it implies to red heads but im not makin a stink about it. No that says Redskins is using it in a deragitory way, but if you want to go that route then away with the braves, the chiefs the seminoles the indians because god knows indians come from india way to have a native american as your mascot.
    Oh and just change the name to start a new merchasing, F all you that said that, i am not rebuying all my fan gear bc its a new name, they change the packers to cheese heads you ok with that? cowboy to cowgurls, no your not. Stop making comments about a team you have no interest in. you people probably then would want redskin potatoes changed.

  153. So 200 years later the government actually cares about the Indians? If the Indians don’t mind, what’s the problem? These losers need to do some real work – give me a break!

  154. The redkins football team was founded in 1932 and derived from the Boston Braves.

    According to wiki, Some accounts state that the name “Redskins” was chosen to honor the team’s coach, William “Lone Star” Dietz, who began coaching in 1933, and whose mother was allegedly Sioux.

  155. whatnojets says:
    Apr 5, 2013 3:57 PM

    “Geronimo, Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse should mind their own business!!”

    they all were minding their business until we rolled around and succeeded in genocide.

    I’m an adult and I’m not stupid enough to give words the kind of power that they can offend me. But, it’s not up to me.

    the fact of the matter is, a racial slur is a racial slur. Either we acknowledge that and stop using them or we go in the other direction and use all of them. You can’t pick and choose what’s offensive and what isn’t. Everyone feels differently.

    anti semitic and anti black remarks are understood as being horrible in this country. Great. Why are anti native american remarks not respected in the same regard? Native Americans are all but extinct, maybe we should honor them with a little bit of respect too.

  156. CNN can literally shown dead bodies on the ground to include children. your telling me broadcasters can’t say Redskins on the airwaves ?

    I say it again, I’ve been a Redskin fan for 37 years and if they change the name like the Bullets did …. I’m OUT !!

  157. Just change the name to ROSACIA and the Logo To a white person with red bloches on his face………………….. Seriously, it’s the way it is, here in N. Minnesota, high schools and collages are gradualy changeing native american nicknames to more PC ones. Might as well get used to it. If SOME native people say it offends them, it’s got to go.

  158. It’s proven in history that the term “redskin” was used by natives. They called themselves “redskins” and called the white man “white skins”. The name is an
    homage to the native spirit. It’s basically saying “We’re down with Native Americans.” And it’s also been proven that some of these “tribal leaders” that have testified against the name weren’t tribal leaders at all and didn’t know the history of the name. In Arizona, when the Cardinals were in the NFC East, I’d go to the games and the Pima Indians would be repping the Redskins hard. I’m talking big flags of the Redskins logo on a pole and swinging it around.

  159. Lemmie check.

    Nope… still don’t care.

    Seriously. Build a bridge and get over it. Until Snyder is gone the name won’t change… and the likelyhood that a new owner will submit to the will of a butt-hurt minority is pretty low.

    I’m not even a Skins fan. I don’t wanna see the name change.

  160. Personally I think they should change it to the whiteskins. I for one would feel honored if they did so. You know, being white and all myself. Now everyone call me racist or something and then listen to yourself. Are we able to now see how ridiculous this is all becoming?

  161. paulitik74 says
    Your mean kind of like how the red skins were/are the first team to have a black qb. Super Bowl at that.

  162. How about the Washington Casino Owner-Americans? Couple of possible mottos: “Custer Had it Coming” or “Taking Back America-One Nickel at a Time”. Sorry, with everything else going on in this world, we’re getting our undies in a bunch over this? What’s next? The Dallas Blazing Saddles? The Oakland Polite Intruders? The Minnesota Guys with the Helmets with the Horns? Don’t know why these guys want to mess up things in the NFL. Thought that was Goodell’s job.

  163. theclaim says:
    Apr 5, 2013 5:48 PM
    theclaim says:
    Apr 5, 2013 5:30 PM
    This debate is RIDICULOUS. Redskins is not derogatory or offensive in any way. I have native American blood and EMBRACED the Skins logo as a symbol of pride. An oppressed people that knowingly fought an un winnable battle. If the team in question was the New York Ni&&ers? I would understand. The Sacramento Sp&cs? The Detroit Da&os, The Seattle Sl&nts. If people want to address offensive team names on the PC basis, the Giants and Titans need to be renamed. Gigantism is a very real disease that effects people on a daily basis. Is this not offensive? The Raiders and Buccaneers and Vikings ALL NEED to change their names as these groups were all associated with murder rape and pillaging as a guideline. I’m pretty sure Cowboys aren’t very well thought of on reservations around the US! Hey how about we REMOVE all reservations? Isn’t THAT INHERENTLY RACIST? Again, I am NOT racist but I am tired of Americans tiptoeing around issues claiming they are too offensive for the masses. Focus on something TANGIBLE like the despairity between the upper and lower classes in the US or the fact that the powers that be manipulate our laws to allow the wealthy to move industry offshore to avoid taxes the REST of us pay? Tired of the WEAK argument against this team name and the rhetoric/propaganda that surrounds it. Ask yourself an honest question, have you EVER in your life heard someone use the term Redskin in. Derogatory manner OTHER than to talk trash about a football team? I’ll be courteous and answer for you. NO you haven’t! It hasn’t been a slur in the US lexicon for WELL over a century. Racism is alive and well. Focus on eliminating that as opposed to a football teams name.

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  164. Seriously, why do Redskins fans care what the team name is? Countless fans of the team have said that they’re ‘done’ if they change their name…

    Huh? Does it change the product on the field or the location of the team? It’s a terrible name- period. Take away the offensive aspect of this for a minute- if the team were an expansion franchise, would ANY of you Washington fans pick the name ‘REDSKINS’ going forward? Would it even be allowed as an option? Is there any chance that even if it was the popular choice amongst fans that the NFL would approve such a name? No, No and NO. They’re grandfathered in and have enough meathead fans that despite the obvious will NEVER admit that the name is ridiculous in any and every way you look at it.

  165. nineroutsider says: Apr 5, 2013 4:12 PM

    If a large coalition of Native American groups emerge that tries to force a name change based on the grounds of racism I will support them.

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    Many large groups of Native Americans have come out against the name starting with the National Congress of American Indians led by Suzan Shown Harjo. During the 92 Super Bowl between the Redskins and the Bills over 2000 Chippewa, Sioux, Winnebago, and Choctaw, and other Native Americans protested. Some of the signs they carried read “We are not Mascots”, “Promote Sports not Racism” and “Repeal Redskin Racism”.

    In the 90s their old owner tried to build a new stadium in DC and Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Cheyenne) introduced legislation that would have required their owner at the time Jack Kent Cooke to change the name of the Redskins before a stadium deal could be approved. Rather than do so, Cooke moved the team to their current location in Maryland.

    Many Native Americans find it to be extremely racist and have tried for years without any result to have the name changed.

  166. How about the Washington Snyders?
    ReRuns?
    Daniels?
    Deadlocks?
    RGIIIs?
    TeaBags?
    Dorks?
    Racists?

  167. Something can be offensive without offending you personally. If you feel irritated or resentful of groups asserting their concerns into the public conversation then you are going to be angry for the rest of your life.

  168. I guess there never will be a awakening among the fans about the Washington D.C. NFL franchise and its name.

    Because many don’t live near Native Americans they can get away with thinking ‘tradition’ somehow justifies calling another American a racial slur, even when it’s done with a football.

    The U.S. government tacitly sanctioned slavery. It was the law. It was ‘tradition’.

    Sorry you can’t see the obvious. Many do. Apparently not some.

  169. Redskin potato salid is really good…in fact I have some in the fridge right now!

    I guess walmart should chamge the name though…

    As long as independent ticket sellers are called “scalpers” the name should stay…and I’m not a Redskins fan.

    But to be honest…I’ve been calling them the Redskirts for years….

  170. People, People…there is Compromise to be found here. Gather round and let Chief HumblePieChart show you the way.

    Simply change the name to the Washington Rednecks. It still implies red”skins” and it’s a racial slur everyone (media, movies, music, news, etc) doesn’t seem to mind throwing around.

  171. Call them the Washington Crackers… This Honkie will laugh like heck, it’s the brothers on the team that will feel funny!

  172. Ok, the letter doesn’t use Redskins, it uses XXXskins in a way overhanded way to try and get their point across.

    But then, in that same letter, they use Blackskins, Mandingo, and Yellowskins…

    Hypocrisy much? Oh wait, you’re the FCC (or ex-FCC) so you are above your own rules.

  173. This just in:
    Aircraft Manufactuers are complaining that the New York X-X-X-S
    XXXS XXXS XXXS name is offensive and its making their product look bad. They should change the name immediately!

  174. somewhere in this great land as we speak some entrepreneur is thinking of making t-shirts that say “blackshirts” or “mandingoes” or whatever.

    Sales will go through the roof.

    Get over it.

  175. These people have become very bias, what about the poor Dolphin and Buffalo, what about the poor Bucaneer. Come on people , caring only for the poor Redskin.

  176. After YEARS of being the Redskins-suddenly its wrong because of young twerps running around with smart phones trying to create news?

  177. It’s funny other races are saying this, but the people who are so called “offended” aren’t. I’m sure as Dan the Man was reading this ridiculous letter, he just laughed and said ” yeah my billion dollar organization is staying what it is.” Seriously its been 81 years of the Washington Redskins, if you think it will change now your mistaken. We are the Washington Redskins and we are damn proud of it, and if they try to change the name, there will be an even bigger crowd to stop that then there will be to change it. And the NFL would be stupid to get involved in this, considering we are one of the most profitable franchises in the NFL. And if that many people were upset, then why did the Redskins have the highest rated games in primetime last season? Yeah, sure seems like a lot of people care huh?

  178. North Korea, Iran, illegal aliens, mass shootings, unemployment, hsg market, and we’re more concerned over the word ” Redskins” please give me a break.

  179. rtant2013 says:
    wrong the Native Indians are very upset read for yourself and before you post do the research this has been an on going fight for over a decade, these people have been fighting this team.

    “It’s just like a drive-by shooting,” Harjo said, “They’re trying to make money, and not caring who is injured in the process — or if anyone is injured in the process. I don’t think they wake up or go to sleep dreaming of ways to hurt Native people. I think they wake up and go to sleep thinking of ways to make money — off hurting Native people.”

  180. “As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”

    Oh, I get it…It has to be a minority term in order to be considered racist.

    NOTE: Not commenting on either side of the debate. Just pointing out the stupidity of that comment.

  181. This ridicolous campaign reminds me what happened with the Washington Bullets, now Wizards. They erase the name Bullets but they continue to sell rifle, guns and bullets, now they want to erase the Redskins name but they’ll do nothing to change the conditions that make racism so weel-adjusted in the USA society

  182. The logo is indecent? When it’s in long enough and hard enough then it’s in decent.

  183. I think the Patriots logo is politically incorrect. It portrays white male of the 1700’s as aggressive and hot tempered. I think it should be changed to the Politically Active and show a mild mannered man in civilian dress.

  184. Political BS. I am white and grew up on a reservation, some of my best friends are Indians and most of them I’d say are proud of the name being used. How far do people want to take it? What about the UND Fighting Sioux? More BS. Could go on and on. Fighting Irish of ND. If I’m not mistaken the Florida Seminoles have a white guy dressed up as an Indian riding a horse and throwing a spear in the ground before the game?? Really tired of the political BS this country has become wrapped around.

  185. Wow,,,,,how in the world did everyone get so sensitive. Redskins, redskins, redskins.
    I would laugh at Washington’s Crackers, cause I am a “cracker” and I own it. You folks did provide me with hrs of laughable reading. Some of you need to get a life and should NOT, under any circumstances, be allowed to possess firearms of any sort. 🙂

  186. The crucial determinant is the meaning behind a word. The term ”Redskin” seems racist on its face. However, almost none of the common, millions of uses of this term are intended as more than a reference to the team and its logo of a Native American head.

    I would like to see how Native American leaders, or polling of that group, respond to this view of the issue, and allow their eventual decision to be the judge.

  187. WASHINGTON REDSKINS NAME CHANGE

    NFL UPDATE:
    The American Indian Counsel has requested that the NFL disassociate itself with Indian Names.
    The Washington Redskins will therefore change their name to the Washington Foreskins in honor of all the pricks in Washington DC, effective immediately.

  188. Check the history of the name ‘redskins’, and you’ll see that it wasn’t at all meant as a racial attack in the slightest. It’s our closed-minded, tunnel vision society that turned it into what it is today.

    Google is your friend. I sincerely dare each and every one of you to research it for yourselves.

  189. everyfootballfan says:
    Apr 6, 2013 9:22 AM
    rtant2013 says:
    wrong the Native Indians are very upset read for yourself and before you post do the research this has been an on going fight for over a decade, these people have been fighting this team.

    “It’s just like a drive-by shooting,” Harjo said, “They’re trying to make money, and not caring who is injured in the process — or if anyone is injured in the process. I don’t think they wake up or go to sleep dreaming of ways to hurt Native people. I think they wake up and go to sleep thinking of ways to make money — off hurting Native people.”

     Everyfootballfan…. Let me give you a moment to pull your foot out of your mouth. FIRST who are the Native Americans upset or better yet HURT by this? The case was filed by 5. Yes 5, 18-24 yr olds. NO this isn’t an ongoing battle of over a decade. Susan Harjo LOST her case after a 17 year battle the Supreme Court decided NOT to intervene, citing Harjo failed to make the case that Redskins is a racial slur, epithet.Also citing had it been so offensive to her/plaintiff that the case would have been filed sooner. The NEW case was filed by 5 young men 18-24. The battle isn’t to force a name change either.. It is over Trademark rights to the name Redskins. Dan owns the rights to this name, IF(and I say this with a wry smile)they (the 5)prove their case and actually win a verdict(they won’t) it doesn’t FORCE Snyder to change anything. It just removes the trademark protection he has over the naming rights. Now tell us again to “Do the research before we post”. You FEEL dumb? You also posted that Dan said, “We are the Redskins and damn proud of it”!, That was said by Bruce Allen GM. It was Jack Kent Cooke who said” I admire The Redskins name! I think it stands for bravery, courage and a stalwart spirit”. WOW! Those are some HATEFUL, disparaging words. The team name. Team was purchased by George Preston Marshall The Newark Tornadoes were moved to Boston in 1932 and began as The Boston Braves. In 1935 Preston Marshall had the name changed to The Redskins to align with the more popular team in town the Boston Red Sox while maintaining the Native American theme/image he so respected(Marshall WAS a racist so to me this speaks volumes) The name change failed to draw larger crowds to the games as Marshall had hoped so at the end of the 35 season he moved the team to Washington. They won their first world Championship in 1937 with rookie QB/CB/Punter Sammy Baugh. NOW, What did you say about do research before you post? Some of us don’t need to research it. WE KNOW IT! Susan Harjo lost her case in Supreme court,precedent has been set. This WILL have bearing on the outcome of this and any future litigation in this matter. The Claim

  190. “It is impermissible under law that the FCC would condone, or that broadcasters would use, obscene pornographic language on live television,” states the letter signed in part by former FCC Chairman Reed Hunt and former Commissioners Jonathan Adelstein and Nicholas Johnson.  “This medium uses government-owned airwaves in exchange for an understanding that it will promote the public interest.  Similarly, it is inappropriate for broadcasters to use racial epithets as part of normal, everyday reporting.”
    FIRST, Government OWNED airwaves? LMAO the FCC is a regulatory commission to OVERSEE the Public Airwaves. They don’t OWN sh!t. Second the FCC lost all credibility when Michael Powell(Colin’s boy) was Chairman. He destroyed any virtue the commission had prior to his arrival. Want to know why your News isn’t News anymore? See FCC chairman Michael Powell. No wonder people are all over the place on this debate. You have to know all the facts surrounding this issue before you can come to a thoughtful reasonable conclusion. Read, then rant

  191. theclaim says: Apr 6, 2013 2:27 PM

    The case was filed by 5. Yes 5, 18-24 yr olds.

    ———————————————————

    Funny how someone who is asking for people to do research failed to mention the thousands of Native Americans who protested the name during the ’92 Super Bowl including people from the Chippewa, Sioux, Winnebago, and Choctaw tribes as well as others.

    If thousands of people find something offensive it is offensive. Sadly because they are such a tiny minority they can be exploited and profited on by the likes of George Preston Marshall (the man so racist he was forced to integrate in the 60s) and his successors Cooke and Synder.

  192. andylucksneck says:
    Apr 6, 2013 9:43 AM
    @theclaim
    Very well put.
    I applaud your entry.
    THANK YOU!

     Thank you! Love the name!

  193. I nearly commented on your Cut and Paste from Wikipedia…… WIKIPEDIA. If this is your source of facts I feel sorry for you. You understand that anyone can put anything up on Wiki right? Not the best source for FACTS. Yes I was around to cherish that SB win and yes there were protestors. They LOST their case. Again you people and your rhetoric, Marshall wasn’t FORCED to integrate. He WAS racist he WAS the last owner TO integrate. He went AFTER Bobby Mitchell and got him! BTW Mitchell holds the reigning title of longest tenured Redskin. He Is STILL part of the organization. You contradict your own point. MARSHALL was racist and STILL chose to move forward with change adding an African American to the team. Bobby Mitchell is quoted as saying” I have heard he(Marshall) was a racist. In all my time and interactions with.the man he NEVER showed it. He treated me with the utmost respect and kept me on as Management after my playing days had concluded. I have been a Redskin 40+ years and I’ll be a Redskin til I die” Good Day! HTTR

  194. nineroutsider says:
    Apr 5, 2013 4:12 PM
    Don’t ever change the name. The name is unique in that it is one of the few names with a lot of meaning. It reminds us of where we have been and where we are going as Americans. If a large coalition of Native American groups emerge that tries to force a name change based on the grounds of racism I will support them. However, I will not support whiny PC politicians who are using this issue to grandstand. When Natives are passionate about forcing a name change, I will support them as I think they’ve earned that right, but not a moment before.

    If you want to change the name so badly do it the right way and build a coalition for change organically. Don’t use governmental powers to force the change. It is not such an egregious name that the government needs to be steeled to action. Let people force the Skins to change it. If the support is there it will happen.

    I might be on the wrong side of history on this as the name is rooted in hate and bigotry, no doubt, but now it is a sign of respect and reverence. Let natives force the change if they want it. The FCC is the last governmental body I want to see forcing change as they need a major structural and policy overhaul themselves.

     Props nineroutsider, I knew after debating the cap issue with you I liked you.

  195. I have a suggestion. How about changing the name to Washington Warriors? You wouldn`t need to change the logo (unless people think THAT is offensive) or colours or anything else.

  196. Astounding that so many people are down-voting suggestions to change the name. I mean, every slur for any other ethnic group I can think of and I can’t imagine clearheaded, decent people being okay with using them over and over as a team name.

    I’ve just taken to calling them “Red Team”. No confusion and I find something simple and classic about it.

  197. Give anyone enough time, they will find a way to be offended by every name in the NFL. Start with Cleveland, what is a Brown any way. Sounds mildly offensive to me. And I had a cousin killed by a bear, he was mauled and eaten. I’m offended by the Chicago Bears. Another cousin was struck and killed by lighting. I’m looking at you Chargers. My wife lost her teacup poodle when an eagle swooped in and carried it off for dinner. Thank for stressing out my wife Philly. And yeah, I’m super cereal .

  198. I’m more disturbed by the racial slur Vikings, why are you picking on my forefathers who may or may not have raped and pillaged! Maybe you could change the name to the Minnesota Casino Owner’s! Or something like that.

  199. theclaim says: Apr 6, 2013 3:22 PM

    Yes I was around to cherish that SB win and yes there were protestors.

    ——————————————————–

    So you are aware then that there are many people who find the name offensive enough to protest and you just don’t care. Got it.

    Most people of character try not to offend others for no good reason, it is simple courtesy. The name is offensive, it would be easy to make a change and avoid offending people. The only argument for keeping the name is that the group that is offended is too small and politically inconsequential to matter, hardly high moral ground to stand on.

  200. As a proud american whose lineage comes primarily from Norway, I call tell you that using a Viking mascot offends me as well. Objectifying my heritage with primarily stereotypical, and cartoonish characteristics has upset me a great deal over the years.

    We need to stop using human mascots (ie: Mountaineer, Buccaneer, Raider) and begin using animal mascots exclusively- like Louisville who uses a Cardinal… that has teeth.

    Just kidding, that’d be ridiculous. I identify with my heritage about as much as these money seeking Indians, and the media members using this story as a vessel for popularity.

  201. Nobody thinks the Notre Dame name is insensitive or their stereotypical logo and mascot. Sorry, I shouldn’t say nobody. There’s always one pr**k. But there’s no media outcry. That’s right. Because it’s making light of white people. I got it. Maybe we can do away with all Indian references in all sports and forget about them completely unless you go to a casino in Connecticut. [That was sarcasm for the pr**k.]

    Maybe these shortsighted individuals should read up on why teams picked these names. Example, the Cleveland Indians are called the Indians in homage to the first American Indian to play baseball who happened to play for that franchise. Doesn’t seem so derogatory, does it? That being said, I don’t know why the Redskins picked that name way back when, but it’d be a shame to change it in the name of political correctness. Maybe the real American Indians can root for the Cowboys. How ironic would THAT be?

  202. The Vikings should change their names to the Minnesota Party Boaters so as to not offend our Nordic friends.

    We’ll have to change the Raiders and Buccaneers to because it wouldn’t be right to promote the behavior of long ago pirates or even the Somalian pirates.

    Some people are anti-union. Steelers. Gone.

    And the Jets offend everyone. Gone.

    See how ridiculous this can get?

  203. Are these the same FCC Commissioners that think nothing of graphic, bloody acts of violence on T.V. night after but shrieked in horror at the sight of Janet Jackson’s nipple?

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