49ers dealing with another Chris Culliver headache

AP

Chris Culliver, the 49ers cornerback who became a distraction in the days before the Super Bowl when he said he wouldn’t want a gay teammate, is in hot water again.

The 49ers released a statement saying Culliver “is being handled internally” after questions were raised about his Instagram account, which he used to publicly post a text message conversation in which women are referred to as “bitch” and “hoes.”

After the pre-Super Bowl incident, the 49ers said they would put Culliver through sensitivity training. Last month, Culliver met with an organization that works with gay young people.

But Culliver obviously hasn’t learned to watch what he says. Culliver is surely not the only NFL player who has used the words “bitch” and “hoes,” just as he’s surely not the only NFL player who wouldn’t want a gay teammate. But he was dumb enough to make his feelings about a gay teammate public, and now he was dumb enough to make his text messages using offensive language public. Apparently that sensitivity training didn’t work.

82 responses to “49ers dealing with another Chris Culliver headache

  1. From my experience, players using those words on Twitter is not that unusual of an occurrence… I guess if you’ve already got the spotlight on you for prior political incorrectness, tweeting that kind of thing carries more PR risk.

  2. I hate the PC world we live in these days. Freedom of speech…as long as it doesn’t offend.

    I don’t agree with his beliefs but he’s most certainly allowed to speak his mind. In return, his employer is allowed to fine, suspend o fire him for his public comments/actions.

  3. The guy is an idiot, but thats okay – plenty of people are.

    This retrospective thought police state is inane and ineffective – education is the only answer not censorship.

  4. The addition of Nnamdi should inspire guys like Culliver to keep his nose clean.

  5. If another person life style is offensive to another some can’t change because it is politically correct. I won’t trust anyone that changes at the whim of public opinion.

  6. What a dumb ass but that said bitches and hoes, are you kidding me? It’s on tv, the radio, the internet. Apparently people have know idea how their children are talking these days. Maybe we should bring back spanking, ha?

  7. The whole point of Freedom of Speech is that no police can arrest and charge you for hateful/stupid/discriminatory speech; not that those of us who are not police can’t condemn you. If you want to be a jerk in public you will not be arrested. You will have a lot of people who think that you are a jerk and will act accordingly. And, they will speak out. How does this make us a police state?
    Right wing idiots confuse righteous indignation and compulsion. I am sure that when this guy signed his contract, it included a prohibition against bringing this kind of unwanted attention to the organization. After all, no one would care if he wasn’t a pro football player.

  8. People will think what they think and although they can change their opinions they don’t have to. While what he said was stupid and insensitive, it is his right to at least think it. However he needs to learn to engage his brain before speaking or tweeting and he needs to realize that he is a public figure who will be criticized for what he says or tweets.

  9. There is such a things as a “Code of Conduct” and organizations need to spell out in their guidelines and contracts that behavior reflecting poorly on the organization won’t be tolerated and will be grounds for dismissal. In the meantime, they have made an effort to assist this young man but unfortunately you can’t fix stupid, so they should cut their losses as they cut him. Clearly he doesn’t get it, has been given a great opportunity but is just not of the character level represent the 9ers or the NFL.
    There are many young men in the draft, free agency who are dying for the opportunity to wear the uniform and will conduct themselves appropriately. These guys are role models for our youth and part of their job is to be ethically and morally above reproach.

  10. Players can’t “be themselves” because, like it or not, they are role models. They’re role models for kids that aspire to get onto the big stage, roll in the big money and get the fame that being seen and looked at by thousands of people. They are on a big stage, a stage that was there when they took the jobs and as audience members with kids we hold them to a little higher standards.

    Charles Barclay can try to deny all he wants that he is a roll model but he played in a crowded gym where the bar was set a little higher in terms of behavior and speech; that was part of the deal. If these guys don’t want us looking at them they can seek employment elsewhere but in the meantime reasonable behavior is expected. It was there when they got here.

  11. I’m all for freedom of speech, but some of these ‘celebrities’, really need to have to score more than a 15 on the Wonderlic to post anything…Yeah, I said Wonderlic.

  12. He was dumb enough to believe he could voice his opinion and speak his mind when it is not politically correct.

    These kids are athletes not politicians!

    Tactless yes…..Headache no!

    I would not consider it a headache just a kid being naive enough to believe that he lived in a country he could speak his mind without being eviscerated by the media.

  13. Jed will most likely demand he be cut loose. Jed is way too community minded and worldly to have this delusional young man reppin the San Francisco 49ers.

    Showed potential in rookie year and had flashes of brilliance but no amount of talent can overcome repetitive foot-in-mouth ignorance. Bye bye Cully.

    You’d fit in perfectly in Seattle

  14. Right or wrong, an athlete’s personal actions and viewpoints are perceived as being representative of their entire organizatin of their fanbase. I think of fans that say “we” when speaking about their favorite team.

    In similar fashion, politicians who say things like “legitimate rape” or send dirty text messages wind up out of a job, regardless of how well they represented their district in DC.

    In a different world where public scrutiny of off field activities doesn’t happen, Michael Vick would still be the
    quarterback of the Falcons.

  15. Let him live his life. It’s called freedom of expression. He’ll learn for himself there are costs that go along with that freedom.

  16. @jjb0811 says: Apr 19, 2013 7:00 AM

    I hate the PC world we live in these days. Freedom of speech…as long as it doesn’t offend.

    I don’t agree with his beliefs but he’s most certainly allowed to speak his mind. In return, his employer is allowed to fine, suspend o fire him for his public comments/actions.
    ____________________________________

    He absolutely has freedom of speech, and will not be put in jail for his idiotic actions. The NFL and the 49ers, as his employers, also have the freedom to take him to task for his idiotic behavior, as he is a representative of their organization. See how that works? He is free, from government persecution, to say what he wants, but he is not free from either public scrutiny, nor any and all repercussions by his employer, who make money from their brand (which he represents). Now, let’s not have anybody ever evoke the Bill of Rights, ever again, when someone pops off with something stupid to say.

  17. While I believe that he should be smart enough to refrain from using such language in certain domains (i.e. Social Media) let me just say that I find the idea of sensitivity training more offensive than what Culliver said. We have become too PC. It has to stop. Matters such as these do need to be handled by the team however as his actions shine negatively on the franchise. Matter of fact….what was his Wonderlic score? :-p lol

  18. Cully needs to shut up but aside from getting inside his own head after his comments before the SB thus having a terrible game…… He balled out and was one of the top guys in the league for how little he gave up. There are much worse things he could be doing off the field than saying something that offends delicate people. That said with this draft depth and even the slightest possibility of a Nnamdi resurrection its not the best time to make waves

  19. I despise “sensitivity training”. What’s missing nowadays is manners, not sensitivity. I am against censorship by the government, the problem is parents a/k/a “no home training”.

    It’s too bad that politicians who are interested in all this “sensitivity” baloney won’t denounce the big music stars who got to be big by demeaning people with epithets in their music, thereby making it look cool for young people to emulate it. But don’t want to alienate voters now do we?

  20. Who cares! Quit being so sensitive people. He can call me a bitch or a hoe. I’m not going to cry to mommy. I’d probably laugh because of the source and go on with my day. I would believe most women reading would hopefully do the same thing. Anyone who would read and be offended needs something to do.

  21. It’s sad that he is so ignorant and uses social media to let us all know. He is a good DB, but he has been quite the distraction.

  22. if Chris Culliver really wanted to express these words in some form…he should have done it the old fashion way…

    He should have released a RAP album

  23. Why is he an idiot? In some American cultures that is normal talk. Some females even use the same language. Little Wayne gets guest spots on ESPN. I never understood why those adjectives are so terrible. Some people fit the description.

  24. Didn’t take many classes regarding diversity during his ” student-athlete ” days at South Carolina, did he.

  25. This guy sucks at football anyways. And nice try at a percy Harvin joke guy. Typical Niner troll. The only headache Harvin will be giving soon is against your declining defense in week 2. I’m excited to see Boldin get dominated at the LOS by Browner! Oh and of course Kaeperpickles throw a pick or two to a real corner like Richard Sherman

  26. In text & dialogue people are way TOO sensitive. You hear these words on TV or in music & nobody gives a crap. Yet if someone in the public eye says or texts the same words, they get vilified. Either be PC across the board or get over it. I get so sick of hearing people whine on here or on the radio when player does something exactly like this, yet those same whiners go home, pop isome music that speaks duragoatory, or turn on shows like family guy & laugh. Hypocritical country we live in

  27. Culliver has plenty of faults on the field. One of them is recognizing his responsibilities according to Whitner. Is there a connection? Ya think?

  28. When you make millions of dollars and play in a highly visible sport for a very visible team, you are a role model. It doesn’t matter if you want to be or don’t want to be, you are. It doesn’t matter if you’re young or old, stupid or smart, you’re a role model. It’s not fair that an idiot can affect how tens of thousands of young people choose to think of women, but he gets to. And when you’re a role model, yes certain responsibilities go along with that. If he doesn’t like that, no problem–he just needs to give the money back and drop pout of the public eye.

  29. ronp407 says: Apr 19, 2013 6:49 AM

    Can someone tell me why athletes can’t just be themselves? I don’t get it.
    __________
    Chuck was a wise man “[Players are not] role models”. More importantly, when a player does something obnoxious, why do we need to blow it up into a big deal; so that everyone knows who the player is and what he did? If “unacceptable behavior” occurs, it should be confined to its immediate area, not repeated and propogated through the national media.

  30. Leave the dude alone. He doesn’t like gays and women who treat themselves like female dogs. Not saying he’s right, but I’m sure being in SF and the NFL high profile attention to attracting women, he sees much more than you can ever realize.

  31. I’d be more angry about him getting burnt by Jacoby Jones than by his poor choice of words.

  32. There are so many tests for players… can’t one of them be an integrity or maturity test?

  33. ronp407 says: Apr 19, 2013 6:49 AM

    Can someone tell me why athletes can’t just be themselves? I don’t get it.

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    Athletes CAN be themselves. So can the people who spend money supporting professional sports teams. We have freedom of speech in this country, and it applies to everyone. People upset with Chris Culliver have a right to express themselves. No one is impeding his right to free speech, rather they are exercising their own right to call him a jerk. That’s how America works.

  34. Very few people would have even heard about this without the media drawing attention to it.

    It makes me wonder if we really dislike the behavior or revel in it because it drives web traffic and allows people a platform to take a moral high ground.

    This isn’t Watergate…the public doesn’t need to know everything a quasi-public figure does/says/thinks.

  35. I can’t believe I just read a few posters have no problem with this. And this is exactly why society is what it is today, but people are too ignorant to see it. Guessing they are probably the same parents that let their kids run them and not vice versa. Athletes are told from day one, one of their duties is to be a ROLE MODEL. It’s not a secret. As a D1 player we had specific class just for that. This in one helluva example to kids. PATHETIC

  36. ronp407 says: Apr 19, 2013 6:49 AM

    Can someone tell me why athletes can’t just be themselves? I don’t get it.
    ————————————————————— Three words for the learning impaired. Code of Conduct. The NFL is a brand. This brand offers riches not available to the average Joe. In return, you agree to act and behave in a matter becoming of the brand. Posting ghetto slang tweets and instagrams doesn’t fit the bill. If you can’t at least ACT like a gentleman for the 4-15 years of your NFL career then use your “degree” to sell insurance. Like it or not you are considered a type of role model for youths in exchange for a very nice level of living. Too hard to understand?

  37. I don’t care for his terminology but sensitivity training is a ridiculous CYA measure for employers to prove they don’t condone certain things. It has nothing to do with “fixing” behavior. I’d say there are millions of idiots in this country that could use a few hours of “de-sensitivity” training… Bring your own tissues

  38. And all you fools parroting “freedom of speech” need to realize that freedom of speech has responsibilities and limitations. It is not absolute. If you work at Lawrence Livermore Sandia you are not free to tweet nuclear secrets. You are under oath and contract. You are not allowed to tweet calls of violence or you will be responsible for that violence. We really need to fix our school system if we want to remain at the top. Too many fools don’t understand “freedom” or “responsibility”. I’m just glad I don’t have daughters in a society that finds it normal to refer to them as bitches and hoes. Talk about lowest common denominator mentality. (wiki the term fools)

  39. I dont understand why people need to be PC on “Social Media” seems to me that if he would say it amongst his frients at a party, then he should be able to say what he wants on HIS social media outlet. I agree this world is way to PC these days. We are going to be a numb society because eventually we will not be able to feel anything like happiness, fear, hatred etc. because it might offend someone else.

  40. I really get a kick out of the incredible ignorance from a bunch of dudes that make statements like, “the PC world we live in sucks!” Why can’t someone just say what they want? Maybe you should ask your mother, I didn’t say wife or girlfriend, because clearly, no woman would have you, if she wants to be referred to as a “bitch” or “ho”… It’s demeaning and disrespectful and only serves to show your personal stupidity! Don’t confuse freedom of speech with complete disregard for understanding differences. I would surmise those making those comments about freedom of speech have never read the constitution or bill of rights.

  41. So I guess you give up you 1st amendment rights when you enter the NFL? In this country you have the right to say whatever you want regardless of how stupid or insensitive it is.

  42. There’s a difference between “saying whatever you want” and “free from repercussions for saying whatever you want.” Of course he has the freedom to make horribly sexist comments in the public sphere. And the 49ers are free to watch out for their own reputation and call him on it. Free speech and consequence-free speech are very different things when employers are concerned.

  43. dieselguy19 says: Apr 19, 2013 11:19 AM

    I can’t believe I just read a few posters have no problem with this. And this is exactly why society is what it is today, but people are too ignorant to see it. Guessing they are probably the same parents that let their kids run them and not vice versa. Athletes are told from day one, one of their duties is to be a ROLE MODEL. It’s not a secret. As a D1 player we had specific class just for that. This in one helluva example to kids. PATHETIC

    ———————————————————-

    Diesel. Let me explain the problem. Everyone is willing to get up in arms about the kid dropping the word “bitch” on his social media account, but then these same people bend over backwards defending athletes who engage in criminal activity. Either we have ZERO tolerance to this stuff or just stop pretending we actually care.

  44. These kind of people just take longer to grow up cuz their so spoiled and pampered, it takes a few extra years, if at all. They have to be, they can’t spell, write, or put together a comprehensive sentence. Yea college

  45. colonelfluffington says: Apr 19, 2013 1:00 PM
    Free speech and consequence-free speech are very different things when employers are concerned.
    __________
    Absolutely the best comment made on this story so far. Obviously Culliver has the right to say whatever he wants, but in turn that means the pubic has the right to respond however they want to his remarks. That’s the central problem in understanding freedom of speech, employer discrimination, and other civil liberty issues: political/legal consequences are not, and should not be, the same as social consequences.

  46. But all he’s doing is using the language of the rap community. Jay Z sings songs riddled with those same word (and worse) and he gets honored at the White House as a great American citizen. Yet when Culliver repeats those same words he’s villified.

    Why not call out the social icons who create the despotic culture that so many impressionable young people take their cues from.

    The world would be a lot better place for gays and women if the media had the courage to hold clowns like Jay Z accountable.

    Typical liberal hypocrisy

  47. People just need to stop being so sensitive. Its not like the words Bitch and Hoe were just conjured up. They’ve been around for years and years.

  48. He better not get a DUI or a Domestic disturbance or any equally poor judgement arrest, if he does, he’s cut!

  49. Geez, the world is going downhill fast. You can’t even count on misogynists to spell their slurs correctly. Note to Mr. Culliver: “hoes” refers to a garden tool. Were you complaining that women spend too much time outside growing food?

  50. You guys need to stop comparing Kanye and Culliver.

    Culliver is employee #53 for 49ers LLC.
    He has to adhere to rules that the 49ers LLC/NFL Corp. deem as relevant.

    Kanye is a media personality. He has artistic license that his media overlords allow him (to an extent).

    It is what it is. Now get back to work.

  51. itsfootballbaby says: Apr 19, 2013 12:35 PM

    So I guess you give up you 1st amendment rights when you enter the NFL? In this country you have the right to say whatever you want regardless of how stupid or insensitive it is.

    ————————————

    In this country corporations have the right to tell you to go seek employment elsewhere if you say things that tarnish their image. You’re still free voice your opinion but you’ll be doing it at the EDD office.

    Stupid of this young man to do this especially right before the draft.

  52. cheapseater says:
    Apr 19, 2013 7:14 AM
    Seahawks dealing with another Percy Harvin headache.

    ^^^^^What does this have to do with anything about this subject, i dont get people at all!

  53. I don’t agree with a thing this idiot says but I cant for the life of me figure out why its considered ok for the team to reprimand him.

    If he came out in favor of gay marriage and the owner of the 49ers suspended him or forced him to go to anti gay training because he himself was a bigot would everybody say its ok or his right as his employer?

  54. I thought Crabtree proved last year that woman like that exist!! Who cares what he writes or what he says… Freedom Of Speech?? I mean really All players have used that language!! We should be fining all the social media sites for giving people an outlet to speak their mind unedited.. Sounds stupid right.. Regardless GO NINERS

  55. Classy, real classy. You never hope someone gets hurt…but Karma can be a real Bitch. And why would you call that woman a garden tool?

  56. What an idiot. Keep ur thoughts and comments to yourself. Or only tell friends/family. Don’t post them on social media u tool!

  57. Referring to women this way is pretty pathetic, yes. Sadly this is what our kids are way too exposed to these days. It’s called immaturity.

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