Mark Davis calls playing on dirt infield a “travesty”

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Once upon a time, dirt infields were a way of life through September (and possibly beyond) for teams like the Dolphins, Raiders, 49ers, and Chargers.  Many others that played on green cement in dual-purposes venues had to deal with the seams and irregularities of the turf toupees covering the bald spots at first base, second, third, home, and the pitcher’s mound.

Now, only one NFL team shares a stadium with a Major League Baseball team.  It’s in Oakland, where tonight the Cowboys and Raiders are playing on a gridiron that encompasses the entire A’s infield.

And owner Mark Davis has had enough.

During the broadcast of Friday night’s Cowboys-Raiders game, sideline reporter J.T. The Brick said that Davis dubbed the situation a “travesty.”

We’ve got an easy and obvious solution.  Next year, a new, billion-dollar stadium opens in Santa Clara.  The 49ers will use it only 10 times per year.  The Raiders could use it 10 times, too.

By all appearances, neither the Raiders nor the 49ers want that.  The league should nevertheless clunk their heads together and force them to do it.

And if that doesn’t work, the Raiders should be one of the teams that moves to Los Angeles.

It makes no sense to build up to three new stadiums for NFL teams in California (one for the Raiders, one for the Chargers, and one in Los Angeles), when the Raiders can share a venue in Santa Clara with the 49ers — or when the Raiders and Chargers can share a place in L.A.

As long as neither the Dodgers nor the Angels move there, too.

104 responses to “Mark Davis calls playing on dirt infield a “travesty”

  1. “It makes no sense to build up to three new stadiums for NFL teams in California ”

    It makes less sense for the Raiders to move to LA. They already tried that, remember?

  2. Santa Clara is the worst place to build. No major freeways, nothing. And it’s 2hrs SOUTH of the bay area metropolis. It will be a disaster. Raiders stay where they are. LA didnt support them then why should they be expected to now? Haven’t you read the def of insanity?

  3. I was gonna be all like “but that’s the best part of watching the Raiders play at home” but then I remembered that Mark Davis is kind of a moron. Not worth it.

  4. The Raiders had their opportunity to help split the costs on the new 49ER stadium & R.I.P. Al Davis chose not too because, he felt the Raiders deserved their own stadium.

    That ship has sailed & the 49ERS have no interest at all.

    So basically your idea sucks Florio. I personally wouldn’t want to share a sandwich with a Raider fan let alone my teams favorite stadium. I can’t even watch a
    quarter of football with those clowns & that includes half my family & friends. Screw the Raiders & their fan base when it comes to football, I can’t stand any of them.

  5. Umm no I don’t think so. The raiders and niners can’t even play a preseason game against each other let a lone share a stadium, the Raiders got them selfs in their mess so let them move back to L.A.

  6. Absolutely ridiculous, Florio. 3 teams exist in Florida. Why can’t they have 3 in California?

  7. Hey Tommy Boy feel free to take your joke of a team and leave town. The only travesty here is what your old man The crypt keeper did to the A’s Ballpark by building that eyesore know as ” Mount Davis”. Im glad ” Alice” and her lunch lady glasses felt the need to build more seats for a team no one cares about. I know the A’s dont draw super well either but al least they contend and if they had a better stadium they could retain their stars. If you took your j.v. squad to Los Angeles then maybe Oakland would pony up for a new stadium for the Oakland team that can actually win some games. Tommy Boy you better tell you Running Back not to screw up Balfour’s mound but since her will pull a hammy before he can do too much damage It should be ok.

  8. I’m not trying to trash the Raiders, but the 49ers stadium has too many seats. The Raiders still had some blackouts when they were a Super Bowl contender from 2000 to 2002. They’d probably have to cover up at least 5,000 seats even when they’re having good seasons to prevent blackouts, and 10,000+ when they’re bad. Also, they would completely eliminate any chance of getting their own venue (at least in the Bay Area) if they move in as tenants at Levi’s Stadium.

  9. No Mark, playing on a dirt field is an inconvenience. Drafting Jamarcus Russell is a travesty.

  10. Well, Mr Davis. You have billions and have great collateral in the Raiders. You’re part of a tax exempt league worth tens of billions of dollars. Go get a loan and BUILD your own DAMNED stadium. Stop screwing over the taxpayers of Alameda County. We’re still paying for your A-hole dad’s Mount Davis he put on the Oakland Coliseum. Your rivals across the bay are building their own stadium without effing over the taxpayers.

  11. Something from Florio that didn’t sound like a subpoena or a scotus decision is a nice blast to the past for a change of pace from the dept. of redundancy dept.

  12. No one has the ideal answer. Meaning the one that most can agree on. It will take logic. Economically viable option #1.

  13. Oregon Raiders
    They will still have a west coast presence
    Oregon and Oakland is similar in spelling
    They will have their own state and their own stadium.
    Northern Cali Raider fans can travel there.

  14. c’mon florio…what do u mean it makes no sense to build in makes no sense to build in L.A. without a team even playing there

  15. It’s been like this since there has been a team known as the Raiders. The only travesty here Mark is your haircut.

  16. It was bad enough that the Niners essentially moved to San Jose (I know a lot of money in Silicon Valley, but still).

    But having the Raiders play anywhere else other than Oakland is a true slap in the face to those crazy *** fans who show up week in and week out, same for the A’s fans.

    I know there’s a plan in the works for a new stadium complex at Jack London Square for both teams, but then again you have Mayor Jean Quan. A lady with an intellect that makes Sarah Palin look like Marie Curie.

  17. Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum is an absolute abomination. A proud and storied franchise such as the Raiders deserve to play in a first-class facility. As a Niners fan though, I’m not sure I want to share a stadium with anyone. Levi’s Stadium is the home of the 49ers. Oakland will be losing the Warriors soon (to SF) and possibly the A’s to San Jose. I know times are tough but the City of Oakland, Alameda County and the Raiders need to figure out a way to build the Raiders a new facility. In Oakland. Where they belong.

  18. Raiders will not share a venue with the 49ers or Chargers. This all points to the Raiders and Rams moving back to Los Angeles. The NFL wants an NFC and AFC team in L.A. The Chargers stay in San Diego and will find a way to build a stadium there either in Mission Valley or Downtown and become a Super Bowl city again.

  19. xxakshunxx says: Aug 9, 2013 11:25 PM

    Move the A’s to San Jose and that would help

    Unless the Raiders somehow pay off the SF Giants and their BS territorial rights, it’s never happening.

  20. Hey how about this for a solution –

    Let billionaire trust fund baby Mark Davis pay for his own stadium if he wants one that badly.

  21. There will never be a team in L.A. for the foreseeable future, the owners need to keep it open as a ‘threat’ to hold over the heads of other cities to get new stadiums and other concessions. “Hey if you don’t give us what we want, we might move to L.A. ….”. Blackmailers.

  22. natelan69 says:

    The Raiders offense was the biggest travesty on that field.

    – – – – – – – – – –

    What offense?

  23. The field is a disgrace but sharing a stadium with either the 49ers or, LOL, the Chargers would be awful.

  24. The Raiders came to Oakland, the A’s opened their doors to them, and the the Raiders defaced the A’s stadium with ‘Mount Davis’ high rise upper decks destroying the open air baseball feel, and now the Raiders call the A’s field a travesty? You don’t come into someone elses house as a guest and then criticize it.

  25. A travesty would be the raiders and chargers sharing a stadium in Los Angeles… i know ofr a fact the spanos family would never do that ,plus they are both in the afc!!! i still think it ends up being the raiders and rams both playing in LA at some point together in the next 3-4 years ….

  26. Their contract is up after this season. And being 70 million under the cap, playing in L.A., that will attract some nice free agents I would say.

  27. @Chicago Raider fan

    1) Santa Clara is not 2hours away from Oak or SJ or SF

    2) Santa Clara has the 101, 680, & 880 running right through it. All 3 are major freeways in the Bay Area. As well as BART(Bay Area Rapid Transit) in the surrounding areas

    3) How would you know anything about logistics in the Bay Area when you claim to be/live in Chicago??

  28. Chicago fan-

    There are no freeways in Santa Clara? 2 hours south of the bay area “metropolis”? Do you have a map?

  29. We dont want their kind in Santa Clara, we already have all the San Jose Gangbanger Raider fans here, we dont need the more violent Oakland breed too.

  30. Forget Los Angeles, Mark!

    You have a 65,000 seat stadium in San Antonio that’s sitting virtually empty right now, it’s 27 years newer than the Coliseum, has no baseball teams playing there, and you’d STILL be able to retain your teams latino fanbase!

    Not to mention the money that you’d keep in your pockets from not having to pay California’s taxes!

  31. “Santa Clara is the worst place to build. No major freeways, nothing”

    What an idiot.
    237 and 101 right next to the new stadium, and an Amtrak train station less than 50 yards away already.

    The weather is 15° better.
    Google, Yahoo, IBM, and tons of other Silicon Valley money a stones throw away.

    Most of the fan base is from Santa Clara county.

    Do your research before running your mouth. It’s perfect.

  32. Baltimore is as roughly as close to Washington DC driving as Oakland is to Santa Clara. Next time a stadium issue comes up the Redskins or Ravens the NFL should force them into the same stadium right? Or for any teams ~40 miles apart right (and because its so great to make a stadium extra generic so two teams can share it).

    Or the NFL should stay the hell out of individual team operations, and owners should shut the hell up when in situations of their own families making.

  33. Go build your own stadium. That way it can be like a model home, and you can customize it with Raider Tarps.

    – Niner fans

  34. “And if that doesn’t work, the Raiders should be one of the teams that moves to Los Angeles.”


    Seriously. Why do you hate L.A. fans, Mike?
    What did we ever do to you that you would wish the Raiduhs back on us?

  35. oor Mark Davis. You inherited a joke. No city in the NFL wants your Raiders. Not even Oakland where you can’t even sell season tickets to “Raider Nation” at $26 per game (Lowest in the NFL, lower than bankrupt Detroit). Your games are blacked out. Not even Los Angeles wants you back (Rams / Jaguars /Chargers all the talk in L.A ). Your Raiders are not even the most popular team in Oakland or the Bay area (Niners).Worst free agent signings ever (Larry Brown, Desmond Howard, Kerry Collins, Randy Moss, Richard Seymor, Warren Sapp, Javon Walker, Matt Leinart, soon to be Matt Flynn? Maybe Neil O’Donnell or Ryan Leaf are the answer). Biggest 1st round draft busts (Todd Marinovich, Jamarcus Russell, Darren McFadden). Your team can’t compete in the current NFL where they have averaged 4.9 wins per season since 2002. No U.S city will build your Raiders a football only stadium.

    Commitment to Excellence? “Just Win Baby?”

    Maybe your team should be absolved and join the Arena Football League?

    Playing on dirt infield a “travesty?” Maybe find a local high school stadium to host your home games….

  36. Taking 3 knee downs in a pre-season game is a travesty.
    Seriously you have a rookie QB trying to make the team and you practice knee downs … lol.

  37. Football is a man’s game and needs dirt. Mudbowls don’t exist anymore and that makes me sad.

  38. A business worth hundreds of millions can & should buy land and construct it’s own stadium….not complain about where they’re ” Forced to play”….

  39. Hey LA doesn’t deserve another franchise. It’s already had 2 and it didn’t work. All you pushing for an LA team are a bunch of morons. Ok say LA gets a team by 2020. By 2030 it will have moved again. Waste of time. Those 10 years could of gone to another city.

  40. I got news for these main stream media people, Mark Davis COULD move this team out of CA all together. Now there is New England Patriots but there are big time people in Connecticut and believe it or not those people have talked to Mark Davis. Connecticut wanted to build Patriots a stadium before Gilette and they are very much still in the hunt.. Can you imaging the Connecticut Raiders…
    Remember at one time it was Houston oilers than it became Tennesee Oilers

  41. What? The raiders want to play at the new 49ers stadium in Santa Clara. That’s like inviting Charles Manson and Kim Jong-il to my son 7th birthday party.

  42. Think for once Mark. Your the only team left with this home field advantage (it gets in every teams head who has to prepare for it), and you’re whining about it?

  43. No Mark, playing on a dirt field is an inconvenience. Drafting Jamarcus Russell is a travesty.


    @dezmick – If there was a way to nominate best comments of all time, you would have my vote with this one!

  44. If Modell “Me” not the idiot owner who couldnt carry a Rooney Jockey Strap was Govern of Cali i would make all 3 share a stadium extend the season a week to give the schedule balance and work it out. this would be priceless knowing how warm and fuzzy Raider,9’er & Charger fans get along. it would be like the Clowns, Purple pigeons & My Stinkies sharing the Mustard bowl or The Purple pigeon nest where if the stadium is in your city you have to allow the visiting have half of everything Tickets,Seats,parking. obviously they would have to build police stations in these stadiums but it would spruce up the league. wonderful idea i know i know.

  45. let the san jose 49ers have the south bay. City of Oakland /Alameda County should try to keep A’s, Warriors, and Raiders by building a state of the art Sports complex city, with retail, entertainment, and hotels. With the new train/tram that is about to be completed from the Oakland Airport to the Bart station at the current site, all the more reason.

    If not they should really build in Dublin, where it would be less than a mile walk from the Pleasanton Bart Station to new venue at Camp Parks.

  46. Mark “Bowlmullet” Davis is clearly a man who knows a travesty when he sees one.

  47. Mark Davis is just an extension of his cheap-ass Daddy…why would you piggy-back off of the success of another team? That stadium was not built with any intentions of the Raiders “sharing” as their home field. GO BUILD YOUR OWN STADIUM! Figures he’d use the “dirt” as an excuse, though. SMH…maybe the CFL will have you so can BUILD something cheap up there.

  48. I, for one, would welcome Mark selling his interest in the team. I love Al and his memory dearly and I think heirs flushing the spoils of the last generation’s hard work down the toilet is a familiar story I’d like not to see happen with our team.

  49. Well, he could put in field turf. It wouldn’t be that expensive and would be a good temporary solution.

  50. The fallout for the last decade of Al Davis isn’t going to go away over night. Unless you are a face painter who wears costumes to sporting events, you get what I’m saying.

  51. the new stadium in Santa Clara is 46 miles from San Francisco, thats further than Baltimore to DC. Based on this logic maybe the raiders should relocate to sacramento, and still be called the oakland raiders

  52. Man, there sure are a lot of Raider haters out there…it’s amazing how one story can bring out so many dbags ragging on the Raiders and how bad they are…but yet don’t mention their own team allegiance.

    I’m guessing all you losers are rooting for pathetic teams…otherwise you wouldn’t be so pitiful.

  53. I don’t live in the Bay Area, but attend 2-3 games a year travelling from the East Coast. The passion and loyalty from the locaks us tremendous. But Oakland has many more infrasture issues to consider a new stadium. The Raiders brand is their selling point ( just witness the passion from the haters.). Therefore a complete break from the West Coast is needed. The fatest growing economy is in the lone star state. San Antonio or Austin should strongly be considered for a relocation by Davis. Particular Austin, who’s growth is among the highest in the US and it is the largest US city without a pro sport team…the Raiders can play at the longhirn stadium until their home us built…Austin Raiders.

  54. To Mr. Davis’ valid point, the field did suck.

    So during the preseason, why don’t the Raiders play a couple home games at a local location like a college stadium? It would give fans in the area more of a chance to see the Raiders and provide a better field too.

  55. Mark Davis is just making up reasons for the team’s eventual escape to Los Angeles. The problem with going to LA is the people willing to build a stadium also want to be the team owner. Not sure if Mark Davis is willing to sell.
    The stadium plan for Oakland is a joke. It would be the smallest stadium in the NFL. Right now, Oakland can’t afford to pay its police and teachers; it certainly can’t afford to pitch in $300 million for a new stadium.
    And it’s a bit amusing for people to say the Raiders should pay for their own stadium. The NFL wouldn’t allow it, even if the Raiders could. A team … besides the New York area teams … building their own stadium would prevent the Jacksonvilles and St. Louises from blackmailing their cities with threats of relocation if they could just do it themselves.

  56. If the NFL wasn’t going to let the state of Texas have two teams in the same conference, there’s no way two teams from the same conference and division will share the same stadium and same city. Especially when it’s Los Angeles.

    It will be interesting to see which AFC team eventually goes to L.A. Both the Chargers and the Raiders can leave after this season, so they might be competing for the same town. If they both apply for relocation at the same time, the league might have to choose one of the other.

    The Raiders make more sense for L.A. than the Chargers do because:

    -The Raiders already have a fan base in L.A. where the Chargers don’t

    – The Chargers are making money in San Diego where the Raiders are a financial mess

    -There’s no way the Raiders will ever get a stadium built in Oakland where there is still a chance for the Chargers in San Diego

    -The Raiders don’t want to play in Santa Clara and they won’t sign an extension in Oakland unless a new stadium gets built

    -Moving the Chargers eliminates a San Diego as a Super Bowl host city

    -The Chargers and L.A. don’t seem to be as interested in each other as L.A and the Raiders are

    The only way I could see the Chargers being chosen over the Raiders for L.A. is if the league gets overly concerned about past image problems the Raiders had during their last stint there. The league has to put the right team in L.A. for it to work and the best option is the Raiders.

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