NFL monitoring Greg Hardy case


With a judge finding Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy guilty on Tuesday of assault on a female and communicating threats, Hardy would seem to be in line for punishment from the NFL under the personal-conduct policy.  That may not be the case.

Hardy’s situation is complicated by the two-step process in North Carolina that allowed him to stand trial before a judge and then, if convicted, before a jury.  As a result, the case has not been resolved yet.

That’s an important factor under the policy, because a first-time offender ordinarily doesn’t face action “until there has been a disposition of the proceeding.”  While that may or may not delay discipline until a player convicted at a jury trial has exhausted all appeals, it would seem to prevent the league from taking action against Hardy in the wake of Tuesday’s outcome.

Then again, the league can do whatever it wants.  For now, the NFL is monitoring the situation.  If the NFL determines based on, for example, a review of Tuesday’s transcript that the case presents “egregious circumstances, significant bodily harm or risk to third parties,” a suspension can be imposed for a first offense.

Also, keep in mind that the Panthers separately could take action against Hardy, suspending him up to four weeks for conduct detrimental to the team and saving more than $770,000 per week under his $13.1 million franchise tender for 2014.

29 responses to “NFL monitoring Greg Hardy case

  1. It sounds like the woman has plenty of issues. If Hardy wins the apeal to go to a jury trial I would say that it is highly unlikely he would be convicted.

    None the less, the league office has shown that they don’t need convictions to hold players accountable. It’s interesting that in the NFL can you be considered guilty even when courts find you innocent.

  2. Aldon Smith gets sentenced next week. Let’s see what happens there, then we can extrapolate.

  3. If he was suspected of taking a toke he would be banned for a year. Beat a woman? he gets a medal.

  4. MONITOR (verb): to pretend their isn’t a problem and do nothing as the problem grows

  5. Without any proven receivers, with Cam coming off ankle surgery, with Jordan Gross retired, and with the division looking to be the strongest it’s been across the board in several years, I don’t see the Panthers voluntarily suspending Hardy for four games for PR reasons. I suspect they’ll let him play, citing the usual “We have to let the legal system take its course.”

  6. The Panthers are monitoring the case too. If 290lb Greg Hardy “beating the living daylights” out of a 110lb girl only leads to a broken toenail how can they exist him to rush the passer against a 320lb tackle?

  7. Oh Nelly,
    Yeah, it’s the league vs. players…
    We got Adam Sandler playing QB, Mike Vick, as back up. Ray Rice as RB, Nelly as change of pace Back….. Keep hardy away from Nelly, we don’t want a fight to ensue!!
    It could make things uncomfy for Titus young, and Josh Gordon……. And wouldn’t want to uspet Coach Burt Reynolds!
    Warden Goodell is trying to break their spirits , suppose he floods the practice field with water?

  8. I am NOT rooting one way or the other on the Hardy thing — but will add that Roethlisberger was suspended for 6 games (six!) for nothing more than allegations from a drunk chick with a very conspicuous pin on her with the initials DTF.

    That’s all it took to get Ben on the hook for six games. It later got reduced to four, but there was not only no conviction — he was never even charged.

    Think about that for a second. Imagine if any of us could lose 37.5% of our annual salary — based on nothing more than the word of a drunk skank with an agenda.

  9. None the less, the league office has shown that they don’t need convictions to hold players accountable. It’s interesting that in the NFL can you be considered guilty even when courts find you innocent.


    Not really – I say it’s kind of like the difference between criminal and civil cases. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt vs Preponderance of Evidence

  10. The Kony Ealy pick is looking smarter all the time. Somebody in the Panthers’ front office knew something like this was gonna go down with Hardy sooner than later.

  11. If a judge, who has full knowledge and appreciation of the criminal reasonable doubt standard, still finds the guy guilty, he’d be nuts to put his future in the hands of a jury. May as well try reach a plea deal and do the pre-trial diversion program and get the slap on the wrist that Ray Rice negotiated. Apparently beating the hell out of women is no longer an offense worthy of incarceration in the US.

  12. @banker:

    The “DTF” pin worn by the woman in the Roethlisberger debacle had nothing to do with anything, so drop it.

    You want to really explain why Ben wasn’t charged? Look no further than her videotaped interview w police. She was asked twice if Ben used a condom and both times said “No.”

    Then the results of the rape kit came back and proved that there was no male DNA present or evidence of sexual contact.

    The obvious question is “How in the heck do you rape a woman w/out a condom and NOT leave ANY DNA?” (Including dead skin cells and/or hairs)

    The obvious answer is “We CANNOT charge him. We would be mauled in a court of law and completely humiliated if we did.”

  13. Check out the picture. To the left of Hardy you can clearly see three words engraved on the wall of the building in the background:

    “Grant us wisdom.”

    Ironic, no?

  14. Can someone please provide one shred of real evidence that Hardy is guilty? All we have so far is accusations from a known gold-digging drug abuser. There has been no mention of photographic evidence, bodily harm evidence, or any other physical indicators. In fact, the most indicative piece of the story is the 911 call made by Hardy himself stating that he was being assaulted by her, didnt want to get in trouble, and begging law enforcement to stop her.

    Those playing the chivalry card, we know you wouldnt hit a women, we get it… but that doesnt make him guilty. And this conviction in the court of public opinion is a slap to those involved and to real victims of domestic violence who get lumped in with this accuser. Now, if the investigation and trial proves he did it, by all means roast him. Then the Panthers can cut him, they need the cap room anyway.

  15. Here’s the bottom line: Greg Hardy is a convict. He’s been found guilty of violence against a woman–assault no less. Sure he can appeal, but he’s still a coward and a convict. Do the Panthers line this guy up to play football? I’d say no.

  16. People fail to see this not just an arrest where the player is awaiting arraignment and trial…in which the NFL lets the legal system take its course. No. Hardy has been convicted. He is a c-o-n-v-i-c-t. If if he appeals, he’s a convict. The NFL’s punishment will most surely be suspension, and I would bet it’s for the period of probation if not for good. And who thinks Hardy will go 18 months without getting in trouble again. Meanwhile, it’s not for the NFL to say, well, given the circumstances, she’s not credible and didn’t leave a lot of marks…doesn’t matter. He was convicted of assault. The case is closed…actually closed. Appeals do not open cases…they review them.

  17. How does a person of Hardy’s size and strength “Beat the living daylights” out of a woman and only break a toenail and how does he choke her and tell her he is going to kill her without leaving a mark on her neck? And why did he not have any scratches or other defensive marks from her resisting or fighting back? Conviction? Sounds like a little revenge from the “Good Old Girls Network”. Either that or the judge decided to try to teach Hardy a lesson, knowing the case will be overturned in a jury trial.

    As for the weapons, I know around 50 people in my community alone that have more weapons (legally) than Hardy. That’s part of the reason crime is lower in NC than most states. Criminals are less likely to victimize someone when they don’t know what the victim is carrying.

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